 That is alreay done and building
 or do you mean pick up in another way?
 e.g. force a cache refresh still?
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 oh great, that was what I was looking for, thanks!
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 building for bionic and backports
 will copy the backports one to the landing repo
[00:06] <valorie> weeeeeee
 s/repo/ppa
 fantastic
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 launchpad publisher seems to have left the building, so will have to copy that over in the morning. sigh
 heyo folks
 so I got another suggestion that not sure if task or bug you decide … Why is System Settings not in alphabetical order? I understand the categories need to be set for importants but the items in each category not being alphabetical is very annoying (once I noticed that, no idea how I never noticed that before)
[02:35] <valorie> @MichaelTun -- please talk to the Plasma devels about that and see what they think
[02:35] <valorie> we really don't want to patch Plasma for stuff like this
 understandable will do
[02:39] <valorie> thanks!
 the only way we could make it alphabetical is if we also removed all the categories (otherwise each individual section would be alphabetical, which would be just weird)
 I think the better path forward here is colsolidating everything in System Settings so that you don't have to wade through so much stuff in the first place
 and in fact, that's on the docket for Plasma 5.13
[02:40] <valorie> it's already better than it used to be
[02:40] <valorie> simpler
[02:40] <valorie> that said, I usually just ask krunner for what I want
 @nggraham, each section being alphabetical would be good . . . the current way is "good luck finding anything". I have used Plasma for years and sometimes I still forget where things are. Making it even slightly easier would be a good thing
[02:41] <valorie> or what someone in #kubuntu wants
 I use krunner too but I use System Settings to explain to people where things are because people ask me to
 again, the win here is simplifying it, which we're doing
[02:42] <valorie> yeah
 @nggraham, simplify is great yes but resorting it would be a good stopgap until that happens
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[09:32] <sheytan> Hi! How do i login into wayland session in 17.10?
[09:33] <sheytan> there's no option to change this at login screen
[09:36] <acheronuk> sheytan: install package plasma-workspace-wayland
[09:36] <acheronuk> should then see a wayland session in sddm
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[11:48] <mparillo> Is kio-gdrive packaged for BB? Or is it user error on my part? sudo apt update && sudo apt install -y kio-gdrive gives me an E: Unable to locate package kio-gdrive.
[11:50] <acheronuk> mparillo: it just needs the packaging reviewed, then MOTUd
[11:56] <mparillo> And Simon is a MoTU, but can he play both roles, or is there some kind of segregation of duties? In the meantime I suppose I will find a different way to upload screenshots from my work VM to the Beta1 Wiki Page.
[12:01] <acheronuk> not really. I'll review and give to him, but he can do his own check if he feel that is needed
[12:01] <acheronuk> mparillo: building now in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc
[12:04] <mparillo> Wow, thank you. The Ubuntu wiki does much better with Google Chrome, which I would prefer not to install in that VM, because I wanted to have my VM looking very clean for the screenshots (similarly, I would not want to have a dropbox icon in the tray).
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[12:32] <blaze> acheronuk: please look https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391002
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[12:34] <acheronuk> blaze: and? context?
[12:34] <acheronuk> e.g. what is that breaking and where?
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[12:41] <blaze> acheronuk: I just hope that bionic will get the fix in time, not through backports
[12:50] <acheronuk> blaze: what does it break?
[12:54] <blaze> Qt API :)
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[13:24] <Riddell> valorie: icons in discover are created by appstream and downloaded as part of the apt repo (they also look crap in neon dev editions where we don't do appstream), I think it's up to launchpad to do that in ubuntu
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[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:42] <acheronuk> mparillo: can you please comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1751459
[13:43] <acheronuk> mparillo: since you have been actively testing
[13:49] <acheronuk> valorie: same if you can? ^^
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[13:57] <mparillo> Thanks acheronuk. I commented immediately, will try to test a bit this weekend. Note that for me at least on another distro, the .png previews for gdrive do not work
[13:57] <mparillo> In the meantime, I simply used the web ui to upload new images.
[13:57] <mparillo> Now in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/Beta1/Kubuntu
[13:59] <acheronuk> 'the dark side' lol
[14:02] <mparillo> I am sure somebody will change it, but I could not resist.
[14:10]  * acheronuk waves to DarinMiller 
 @nggraham what release can you test this on? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/solid/commit/?h=kubuntu_bionic_archive&id=fffa069faba04909075c371a15e019143ea6e463
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 I was never able to reproduce the problem with my own setup, actually. I just landed the patch on behalf of others (who could reproduce it)
 okaay
 do we really need to add that now then I wonder?
 It'll be fixed in 5.44, so as long as we ship with that, I think we're good
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 It looks sane enough. Lets go with it in bionic, but look out for bug reports in case of unintended consequenses.
 roger that
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 I'll not give that to backports until it has had some time with no issues
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 anyone on 18.04 want to try the latest version of MenuLibre? They claim to have added Plasma support but seems only available in Bionic
 https://bluesabre.org/2018/02/06/menulibre-2-1-5-released/
 I just want to know if it works and does it allow to edit jumplists while in Plasma
[19:38] <valorie> will do, acheronuk
[19:38]  * acheronuk reads back as he forgot what he asked!
[19:38] <acheronuk> ah. kio-gdrive. ace!
[19:38] <acheronuk> valorie: ty :)
[19:51] <valorie> working well for me
[19:54] <acheronuk> :) anyone using, please comment on the bug
 :D
[20:53] <mparillo> acheronuk: valorie and Lazy B...can you put Dolphin in preview mode, and look to see .png previews in your real folders? Then look at .pngs in you GDrive?
[20:57] <valorie> I can open them in gwenview but there are no previews in gdrive
[21:03] <mparillo> So same for you. I bet that means it is an upstream problem, but I could not find anything on BKO.
[21:04] <valorie> not sure it's a bug -- perhaps it is something Google doesn't allow in their API?
[21:06] <valorie> because once I open taht same folder on the web, the 'previews' are huge
[21:06] <valorie> almost 2"x2"
[21:18] <blaze> yeah, I fear that the only way to generate preview is to download the image into /tmp and then render preview from there
[21:24] <valorie> I sort of doubt that is worth the cycles, but I guess if people want it, it *could* be done
[21:25] <valorie> would be slow and energy consuming though
 @Andredelsa can we enlist your talent for 18.04?