[00:53] <www2> hi Hi I wand to know that ubuntu 18.04 get an newer version of mono?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> www2: Currently -> Package mono-complete >> bionic (cli-mono): complete Mono runtime, development tools and all libraries [universe]  >> 4.6.2.7+dfsg-1ubuntu1: amd64 arm64 armhf i386 ppc64el s390x .
[01:10] <www2> Thx @Bashing-om but i need Mono 4.8 or later du to TLS 1.2 suport
[01:13] <Bashing-om> www2: Not much else I am able to say at this point .
[01:14] <www2> no problem any way to contact the team?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> !alis | www2 
[01:22] <www2> @Bashing-om i mean the ubuntu team ;)
[01:24] <Bashing-om> www2: Not having done so, I can not advise . Alis may be your best bet to see what is on irc .
[03:09] <daddy0_> how to change the colors of login/lock screen?
[04:02] <libben> anyone good with kvm/networking/iproute?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> hey Major_Wedgie 
[05:23] <Major_Wedgie> Welcome back to my screen
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> Major_Wedgie: you want to help test 18.04 server or production?
[05:23] <Major_Wedgie> I'm no server admin
[05:23] <Major_Wedgie> Just mucking around at home
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Major_Wedgie: we reccomend installing a daily from topic to hep test
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> help
[05:24] <Major_Wedgie> Was trying things out using 18.04 with 16.04 documentation and banging head against wall
[05:24] <Major_Wedgie> I have install the latest daily
[05:24] <Major_Wedgie> ran into issues
[05:25] <Major_Wedgie> It didn't recognise RAID array
[05:26] <Major_Wedgie> but I'm trying to configure network interfaces and the instructions for 16.04 are too out of date
[05:27] <Major_Wedgie> thanks
[11:55] <tewn> how far along is ubuntu+1 ?
[11:56] <tewn> 18.04 LTS rather
[11:56] <ikonia> what do you mean how far long ?
[11:57] <tewn> got it.  thanks.  visited the schedule
[16:14] <FurretUber> Hi, what makes the system refuses to use the Intel graphics OpenGL capabilities and keep using llvmpipe (as by glxinfo)?
[16:30] <FurretUber> Installing oibaf ppa and adding the file xorg.conf at /etc/X11 with the following:
[16:30] <FurretUber>  Section "Device"
[16:30] <FurretUber>    Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
[16:30] <FurretUber>    Driver      "intel"
[16:30] <FurretUber>    Option      "DRI"    "3"
[16:30] <FurretUber> EndSection
[16:30] <FurretUber> works
[16:32] <FurretUber> Why is the system using llvmpipe by default?
[16:36] <tomreyn> !paste | FurretUber
[16:38] <FurretUber> Ok. If I don't create the file xorg.conf at /etc/X11 with the following content: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MMcTq6XDQB/ the system uses the CPU instead of GPU for rendering
[16:38] <FurretUber> I don't know why it is using CPU rendering as default
[16:39] <acheronuk> FurretUber: what DE?
[16:39] <FurretUber> Xfce4
[16:39] <acheronuk> you have libegl1 installed?
[16:40] <FurretUber> Yes
[16:41] <acheronuk> had a similar issue in Kubuntu, due to stuff building against new libglvnd and mesa in proposed, giving a dep on libegl1 that didn't work well with -release
[16:41] <acheronuk> can you uninstall that lib?
[16:42] <FurretUber> It tried to remove more than 300 packages
[16:43] <alkisg> Also try rebooting without xorg.conf, and check if dri3 is mentioneed in the output of xdpyinfo
[16:43] <acheronuk> ouch. do you have -proposed enabled?
[16:43] <FurretUber> I don't have proposed
[16:44] <FurretUber> I will reboot the system without xorg.conf
[16:50] <FurretUber> By xdpyinfo, there is only DRI2
[16:50] <FurretUber> And on glxinfo it says device: llvmpipe
[16:52] <alkisg> pastebin your xorg.log
[16:52] <FurretUber> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MMcTq6XDQB/
[16:52] <FurretUber> Sorry
[16:54] <FurretUber> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jj2tcHKsQQ/
[16:55] <alkisg> Ah, it's because it's using the modesetting driver instead of the intel driver
[16:55] <alkisg> Just driver intel should be enough, the dri 3 line in xorg.conf isn't really needed, right?
[16:56] <FurretUber> There is one program that only has widescreen resolution options if I have the DRI 3 enabled, so I would still need that option
[16:57] <FurretUber> What should I do to enable the CPU rendering by default (I mean without the need to add the xorg.conf file)?
[16:57] <FurretUber> GPU*
[16:58] <alkisg> I mean, dri 3 is by default enabled for the intel driver anyway
[16:58] <alkisg> So if you don't specify it, you should still have dri 3
[17:00] <tomreyn> FurretUber: "glxinfo -B" with both configurations should tell
[17:00] <alkisg> I think the reasoning for defaulting to modesetting rather than the intel driver, is that it's more stable; there should be a blueprint for this in launchpad somewhere...
[17:01] <tomreyn> there's also this "alpha" intel kernel parameter which might achieve the same without the need for xorg.conf
[17:03] <alkisg> Normally, the modesetting driver does offer DRI2/3, but in your case it doesn't, it reports the card isn't DRI2 capable
[17:03] <alkisg> So in your case, the intel driver does a better job there
[17:03] <alkisg> [    33.027] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
[17:04] <FurretUber> It was working before without the xorg.conf (it set as DRI 3 by default correctly)
[17:04] <alkisg> While e.g. in mine I get: [    23.040] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: i965
[17:04] <alkisg>  
[17:04] <alkisg> Before, when? Still in 18.04 or in previous versions?
[17:04] <FurretUber> Now it broke, after the 4.15 kernel
[17:05] <alkisg> So if you boot with the 4.13 kernel it works?
[17:05] <FurretUber> I noticed now, by the high CPU usage
[17:05] <FurretUber> I'm not sure if this is the cause
[17:05] <FurretUber> But 2 days ago it was fine
[17:09] <FurretUber> On the xorg.log, shouldn't the module intel be loaded in some moment?
[17:09] <alkisg> No, modesetting is used INSTEAD of intel
[17:10] <alkisg> They switched to that a couple of years ago for stability
[17:10] <alkisg> But for your card, modesetting doesn't enable DRI
[17:11] <alkisg> What's your card btw? lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
[17:11] <FurretUber> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QgKscWZcvX/
[17:12] <alkisg> https://tjaalton.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/intel-graphics-gen4-and-newer-now-defaults-to-modesetting-driver-on-x/
[17:17] <alkisg> I'd test with some previous kernel/release if I were you, and if the modesetting driver there enables DRI, I'd file a bug report against modesetting
[17:19] <FurretUber> I will purge the xserver-xorg-video-intel, remove the xorg.conf and reboot with the 4.13 kernel. I will then post if it works
[17:19] <alkisg> There's no need to purge it
[17:19] <alkisg> Just removing xorg.conf should be enough
[17:32] <FurretUber> Now it's working again. Apparently, the package that broke everything was libopengl0
[17:33] <FurretUber> Thank you, everyone
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: cant reproduce those grub flickerings here