[00:01] <colemickens_> Jordan_U: Nautilus/gnome/something just auto-mounts it.
[00:02] <colemickens_> Everything else on the FS looks fine. I can see the grub config dir, EFI dir, etc. It's literally just "casper" that appears differently.
[00:02] <colemickens_> And sure enough, when it tries to boot it complains that /casper/vmlinuz doesn't exist.
[00:03] <colemickens_> it's baffling. I'll provide a screenshot in a bit if this is still confusing me... I validated checksums, etc, too.
[00:04] <Jordan_U> colemickens_: What dd command did you use?
[00:05] <Jordan_U> colemickens_: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/self/mounts" while the USB drive is mounted.
[00:06] <colemickens_> Jordan_U: same command for both 16.04.3 (working) and 17.10.1 (sudo dd if=whatever.iso dd=/dev/sda bs=4M; sudo sync; sync)
[00:06] <colemickens_> I'll pastebin asap.  Got too many things in flight right this second.
[00:06] <colemickens_> well the second dd there should be of= obviously
[00:46] <www2> Hi I wand to know that ubuntu 18.04 get an newer version of mono?
[00:49] <Bashing-om> !18.04 | www2
[01:26] <CoJaBo> akik: I'm trying to figure out if NFS is likely to be better or worse than sshfs on flaky connections; I can't actually fix the connection
[01:47] <texla> How to activate numlockx defore login
[02:27] <yeats> CoJaBo: I would definitely avoid NFS if it's on an unstable connection
[02:28] <geriatric_bedtim> Would someone help me reconfigure the resolution of an external monitor? I've been fiddling with xrandr for an hour and can't get anything to work :'(
[02:35] <libben> https://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution geriatric_bedtim
[02:35] <libben> tried something like that?
[02:35] <libben> what resolution do you want geriatric_bedtim ?
[02:35] <libben> and what hz does your monitor support
[02:39] <geriatric_bedtim> Yeah, libben, I've been through that page. The monitor can do HD 16:9, but all I can get is 1024x768 for some reason (I'm on my backup laptop, an ancient ThinkPad without HDMI, while my other one is in the shop)
[02:51] <libben> so what resolution can it handle?
[03:00] <sere_> question: i exted a btrfs lvm but the changes arent taking place not even when i reboot.. how do i write the changes
[03:12] <Tecan> there are alot of esp and arduino's with wifi , this seems to be a problem on fresh copy of ubuntu 17.10 too. https://klamfx.wordpress.com/2017/01/27/fixing-upload-problem-with-arduino-uno-clone-with-ch340-on-linux/
[03:16] <lasik> anyone chatting?
[03:39] <luxio> I get this error when trying to start Tor: https://pastebin.com/WkpBCdDS
[03:39] <luxio> How do I fix this?
[03:44] <AmericanBlend> is mumble in 16.04 vulnerable
[03:44] <AmericanBlend> i'm feeling being spyied on by other mumble users
[03:45] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, spied on, how
[03:46] <AmericanBlend> like htey know what music i'm listening to at this moment and have access to my ata
[03:46] <AmericanBlend> basically mumble seems like a back door
[03:46] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, do you have any actual evidence of that
[03:46] <AmericanBlend> no
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> there are no cve open for mumble
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> no importan ones
[03:47] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, it's an encrypted software package
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> i know what mumblew is
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> but maliscious server can exploit clients in theory
[03:47] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, unless you have some actual evidence , please keep the speculation out
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> like i'm in a conversation at this moment and they seem to know what i'm doing
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> they don't say directly anything
[03:49] <kenrin> luxio: http://linux.debian.bugs.rc.narkive.com/fPYRxlow/bug-888236-torbrowser-launcher-broken-by-tor-browser-7-5-no-such-file-or-directory-docs-sources
[03:50] <kenrin> Might be another bug report open in the official trackers but I'm too lazy to look
[03:52] <luxio> kenrin: so it's a known bug that will be eventually fixed?
[03:57] <kenrin> From that thread it is already fixed in backports on debian,  no idea on ubuntu
[04:04] <libben> anyone good with kvm/networking/iproute?
[04:05] <bazhang> libben, please ask your question with some degree of details
[04:05] <libben> I need host 2 guest communication
[04:05] <libben> And im wondering what is the right way to move forwared
[04:07] <GPenguin> hello, how is the software called that fetches typed commands and responds like "did you mean this, you can install that"?
[04:21] <lsmd> How to get init working in lxd?
[04:21] <lsmd> Switching to sysvinit helped before the recet updates.
[04:34] <stevejob1inhell> hi
[04:35] <stevejob1inhell> after apt-get update on Ubuntu 16.04, the latest version of postgtesql available is 9.5 but it's at 9.6
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> stevejob1inhell: did you add external ppa's on your system?
[04:35] <stevejob1inhell> is that safe?
[04:35] <stevejob1inhell> what ppa has postgresql-9.6?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> stevejob1inhell: no, hence why im asking
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> stevejob1inhell: you dont know how you installed it?
[04:36] <stevejob1inhell> I haven't installed any ppa
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> stevejob1inhell: ok, good
[04:36] <stevejob1inhell> and I didn't install 9.5 if I can get 9.6
[04:37] <stevejob1inhell> officially
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !info postgresql-9.6 xenial
[04:37] <stevejob1inhell> ok thanks
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> stevejob1inhell: how did you install it exactly?
[04:39] <stevejob1inhell> how did I install ubuntu? what is it?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> stevejob1inhell: no, postgresql
[04:39] <stevejob1inhell> I didn't yet.
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | stevejob1inhell the reccomended way
[04:41] <stevejob1inhell> well I don't need apache
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> stevejob1inhell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[04:47] <Kitana> why you dotneed Apachez
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Kitana: can we help you?
[04:48] <Kitana> you - no. i want to band steve)
[04:49] <Kitana> 07:44 lotuspsychje: stevejob1inhell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[04:50] <Kitana> go to the MS.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Kitana: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[05:00] <shanky> hi
[05:00] <shanky> wifi not wrking after suspend
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> shanky: ubuntu version? wifi chipset and driver loaded please?
[05:07] <shanky> ubuntu 16.04
[05:07] <shanky> wifi chipset how to check
[05:07] <shanky> driver loaded
[05:07] <shanky> how to check
[05:07] <shanky> lotuspsychje: it wrks normally but after restart it doesnt
[05:08] <shanky> lotuspsychje: i mean after suspend
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> shanky: sudo lshw -C network
[05:12] <shanky> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/2jhtGHPz
[05:14] <shanky> lotuspsychje: i have added some script  from stack overflow to restart using sysctl but it didnt help
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> shanky: ok realtek..is your system up to date to latest?
[05:17] <shanky> same issue was before
[05:17] <shanky> so i reinstall ubuntu ffreshh ubuntu
[05:17] <shanky> 16.04LTS
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> shanky: updated to 16.04.3?
[05:18] <shanky> lotuspsychje: i updated it always
[05:18] <shanky> lotuspsychje: yes
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> ok good
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> shanky: can you check wich version of linux-firmware you have?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-firmware xenial
[05:19] <shanky> lotuspsychje: not updated i installed new ubuntu replacing old with 16.04.3 using flash pendrive
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> shanky: check your updates with: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:22] <Major_Wedgie> G'day guys. Wondering if there is the beginnings of an 18.04 Server manual anywhere?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Major_Wedgie: join #ubuntu+1 for bionic mate
[05:22] <Major_Wedgie> thanks
[05:22] <shanky> lotuspsychje: if it wrks i will be so thnkfull to u facing it since one month :(
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> shanky: realtek is known chipset for having issues sometimes, with different drivers/firmware/kernels
[05:25] <shanky> lotuspsychje: should we use backport as i did for linux mint
[05:30] <shanky> lotuspsychje:getting w possible missing frmwarfe
[05:30] <shanky> lotuspsychje: its just warning right
[05:32] <shanky> lotuspsychje: its done now should i reboot?
[05:34] <shanky> lotuspsychje: should i remove those script which i have written? ti auto start wifi??
[05:35] <Guest95865> I just changed my computer's gpu from nvidia to AMD rx560. How do I make opengl use radeon rendere instead of llvmpipe? dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' shows amdgpu is alreamy loaded. my os is kubuntu 18.04
[05:37] <shanky> lotuspsychje: it didnt solve the issue :(
[05:38] <shanky> lotuspsychje: still no wifi after suspend
[05:40] <jk^> !tor
[05:49] <ubuntu> hi
[05:49] <Guest70879> who is here
[05:50] <help> anyone havng backport link
[05:50] <shanky> help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/678145/my-wifi-qualcomm-atheros-device-168c0041-rev-20-doesnt-show-up-and-work-in
[05:50] <help> shanky: thanks :)
[05:52] <Guest71928> shanky: its not wrking
[05:53] <Curi0> What is the difference between Ubuntu Base and Ubuntu Minimal ?
[05:53] <Curi0> for amd64
[05:53] <jk^> !tor
[06:12] <maret> Hi everyone, I installed nvm nodejs as root user, then I created new user but if I run node as that user it says command not found
[06:13] <muniyappan> MUNI
[06:13] <muniyappan> PP
[06:18] <shanky> my wifi is not wrking after suspend
[06:18] <shanky> i cant run command after suspend it gets freeze hanged
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !mini | Curi0
[06:30] <Emmarof> I have installed postgresql. When i try lauching from the terminal, they tell me the program is not found and that i should install postgres-client-common. When i run the install, i get the error https://pastebin.com/MmYBda7u amd the cycle continues
[06:32] <CoJaBo> Emmarof: Line #3 is probably the one to google
[06:33] <shanky> hi
[06:37] <Emmarof> CoJaBo: i've tried many of the suggestions there but stu=ill
[06:57] <Clien> For every Vulnerability there is an exploit. what is the name the thing that is a non-profit project that is provided as a public service, It is operated by Offensive Security ?
[07:00] <CyberZaZa> lol
[07:17] <RudyValencia_> Hi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu 16.04 LTS on a Ryzen 7 1700 w/ GeForce GTX 1050, but it doesn't boot in BIOS mode (freezes on a text screen) or UEFI (desktop looks like a bunch of lines), why is that happening and how can I install it?
[07:19] <dunno> got an issue with a usb that i can no longer use for storage (was used with rufus for win install) how can i format it to use on linux and get it working terminal
[07:20] <dunno> tried formatting in gparted when don all looks well ext4 but wont let me write to it
[07:32] <ducasse> RudyValencia: is this 16.04.3?
[07:35] <OnkelTem> Hi folks
[07:35] <OnkelTem> I can't get into grub menu and so can't load in the rescue mode.
[07:35] <OnkelTem> Have they changed the shortcut?
[07:35] <OnkelTem> I'm pressong Shift
[07:36] <mkay> can anyone help me format my usb with fdisk to work on ubuntu please
[07:36] <mkay> terminal)
[07:38] <Curi0> What is the difference between Ubuntu Base and Ubuntu Minimal ?
[07:38] <Curi0> for amd64
[07:39] <AndroUser4> am I visible?
[07:39] <energizer> AndroUser4: yes
[07:39] <AndroUser4> can I use 17.10 instead of 16.04 on the this tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-ikev2-vpn-server-with-strongswan-on-ubuntu-16-04
[07:40] <AndroUser4> I am a newbie
[07:40] <ducasse> AndroUser4: why do you want to use 17.10 instead?
[07:41] <AndroUser4> no particular reason. just the assumption that it's better due to the version number
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Curi0: did you read the minimal trigger i pasted you?
[07:41] <ducasse> AndroUser4: if you are a newbie you should definitely stick to 16.04 for a server
[07:42] <Curi0> lotuspsychje, no
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !minimal | Curi0
[07:42] <AndroUser4> ducasse, why?
[07:42] <Curi0> so what is the difference from Ubuntu base ?
[07:42] <AndroUser4> what are the differences?
[07:43] <ducasse> AndroUser4: much better suited, and it's supported for 5 years. 17.10 is only supported for 9 months, so you need to upgrade the entire system twice a year.
[07:44] <AndroUser4> oh, 5 years from when?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Curi0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Base
[07:45] <ducasse> AndroUser4: 5 years from when it was release - 2016/04. we always recommend newbies stick to lts releases.
[07:45] <AndroUser4> awesome. will do ty
[07:46] <Curi0> lotuspsychje, so which one is better for building a distro
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> Curi0: how about you tell us what you wanna do exactly?
[07:47] <RudyValencia> ducasse: I figured it out - I needed to install with nomodeset
[07:47] <Curi0> lotuspsychje, build my own distro with custom desktop enviroment
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> !info uck | Curi0
[08:05] <AndroUser4> thanks for the help I think I'll stay connected here while I try the tutorial
[08:06] <AndroUser4> question: tutorial states prerequisites include "One Ubuntu 16.04 server with multiple CPUs,..."
[08:07] <AndroUser4> mine is just the cheapest 1cpu $5/month one
[08:12] <rudyvalencia-> Hi so I'm trying to use Skype on Xubuntu 16.04.3 but it's not picking up my headset. Why is this and how can I get sound working in Skype?
[08:18] <axldenied> Hello
[08:20] <GPenguin> hello, how is the software called that fetches typed commands and responds like "did you mean this, you can install that"?
[08:21] <ducasse> GPenguin: 'command-not-found'
[08:22] <GPenguin> ducasse: super, thanks a bunch!
[08:29] <rudyvalencia-> Hi so I'm trying to use Skype on Xubuntu 16.04.3 but it's not picking up my headset. Why is this and how can I get sound working in Skype?
[08:35] <xux> Good morning!
[08:36] <EriC^^> rudyvalencia-: did you try settings > sound in ubuntu?
[08:37] <Steff> hello
[08:37] <Steff> anyone here ?
[08:38] <cfhowlett> only 1400 or so today.
[08:39] <Steff> I need help badly
[08:39] <cfhowlett> and?
[08:39] <Steff> cant install, reinstall or remove kernel
[08:39] <Steff> depmod: ERROR: failed to load symbols from /lib/modules/4.13.0-36-generic/updates/dkms/bbswitch.ko: Invalid argument
[08:40] <Steff> and apt hands on
[08:40] <xux> MenuLibre: What are you experiences?
[08:43] <Steff> well today i run mine laptop and tryied to install gimp, I got message that apt didnt finished an operation and ask me to dpkg --configure -a
[08:43] <Steff> so I run it but it hangs all the time
[08:45] <nudge> if i format a usb thumb drive to with gpartd ext4 can i use it on any Ubuntu (like i would be able to with a fat 32)?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Steff, regarding your kernel issue: make an ubuntu USB > boot frm USB > chroot your laptop system > remove kernels
[08:47] <ducasse> !permissions | nudge set the permissions so your user can write to it
[08:47] <nudge> do you mean chmod 755
[08:47] <nudge> will read just curiious
[08:47] <Steff> cfhowlett: damn it's mine laptop at work :P
[08:48] <Borw3> nudge: chmod 777 so everyone can write to it. :D
[08:48] <ducasse> nudge: 755 won't let everyone write
[08:48] <nudge> cool thanks
[08:49] <ducasse> nudge: use chown to change the owner
[08:49] <nudge> :-D
[08:55] <neurre> HI
[08:55] <neurre> oops caps
[08:55] <neurre> ive been using gnome-shell for a while
[08:56] <neurre> do i have some other option?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> it's linux.  you have dozens of options
[08:56] <neurre> such as?
[08:56] <neurre> is there something I can just sudo apt install?
[08:56] <neurre> my probelm is beyond compare seems to make gnome-shell super super slow
[08:57] <neurre> like 10 spf
[08:57] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install lxde xfce4            will grab 2 light desktop environments
[08:57] <ikonia> thats a desktop
[08:57] <ikonia> not a shell
[08:57] <cfhowlett> d'oh!  right
[08:57] <ikonia> what is beyond compare
[08:57] <neurre> its commercial diff/merge tool
[08:57] <ikonia> so does it make the shell slow or the whole desktop slow ?
[08:58] <neurre> i dont know what part is "shell" / "whole desktop"
[08:58] <neurre> i cant move windows or anything
[08:58] <neurre> everything is super slow
[08:58] <neurre> i think it could be ubuntu 17.10 gnome on xorg in virtualbox issue
[08:59] <cfhowlett> how much ram does your virtual machine have?
[08:59] <neurre> 8 GB
[09:00] <neurre> host has 16
[09:04] <ikonia> nudge: I suspect your problem is more around your virtual graphics card
[09:04] <ikonia> oops
[09:04] <ikonia> neurre: that was for you
[09:04] <ikonia> neurre: do any other programs make your desktop slow or just this one ?
[09:04] <neurre> i will try with 3d acceleration disabled
[09:05] <neurre> ikonia, it happened once before when i wasnt using beyond compare
[09:05] <neurre> this is fairly fresh 17.10 installation
[09:05] <neurre> never happened before with 16.04
[09:05] <neurre> the thing with bc is that it instantly triggers the issue
[09:05] <Borw3> neurre: What is the host OS?
[09:05] <neurre> win 10
[09:06] <Borw3> xD
[09:06] <neurre> so https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/17014 looks like similar
[09:06] <neurre> except i am already using gnome on xorg
[09:06] <ikonia> neurre: so I think you need to narrow it down a little to understand if it's just this app, or other apps, check your resources, and really make sure the problem isn't the virtual video card being stressed
[09:06] <Borw3> neurre: Your processor, how powerfull is it?
[09:06] <ikonia> neurre: gnome is reasonable hungry for a VM on the graphics card front
[09:07] <neurre> i7-7700HQ
[09:07] <neurre> should be okay
[09:07] <neurre> This is dell xps 15 9560
[09:07] <Borw3> neurre: How much RAM you have free before loading the virtual guest?
[09:08] <ikonia> can we not guess at resouces
[09:08] <neurre> im not sure how to tell
[09:08] <ikonia> actually "look" at resources
[09:08] <neurre> host has 16 GB, and im not running anything else, I dont think it is memory issue
[09:08] <neurre> most likely virtual graphics card issue
[09:08] <neurre> hmm this laptop has both intel and nvidia
[09:08] <Borw3> neurre: Open task manager and see.
[09:08] <neurre> i could try to force nvidia gpu being used
[09:09] <neurre> available  says 11.6GB
[09:09] <ikonia> neurre: keep in mind, there is what the host uses, and what is presented through to the VM via emluation or pass through
[09:09] <ikonia> neurre: your host card could be amazing, but if you emulate an SIS graphics card, the vm will suck
[09:10] <Borw3> neurre: Tey allocating 4gb or less to the guest.
[09:10] <Borw3> Try*
[09:10] <neurre> yeah i just wonder if virtualbox manages to trigger bad behavior in host gl driver
[09:10] <neurre> okay
[09:15] <neurre> i figured it out
[09:15] <neurre> disable 3d acceleration -> no issue
[09:16] <AmericanBlend> that sounds as a temporal workaround
[09:16] <AmericanBlend> ah it's just a vm, ok
[09:16] <neurre> time to try vmware
[09:16] <singy> hello
[09:16] <neurre> it has better gl support anyway
[09:16] <singy> what is promise is node js?
[09:17] <soicsailor> Sigyn: theres 1465 people here, type your responce or question on one line, makes it easier to help
[09:18] <neurre> singy, did you google it? https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/primers/promises
[09:19] <singy> soicsailor . you could have skipped answering to my question if you dont know the answer, i would have eventually learned that , im not a bot
[09:19] <ikonia> why would vmware matter ?
[09:19] <neurre> ikonia, virtualbox is inferior in GL support
[09:20] <ikonia> neurre: I don't think it is
[09:20] <ikonia> neurre: certainly not compared to vmware desktop / free version
[09:20] <neurre> ikonia, virtualbox GL is still GL 2.x, vmware is 3.x
[09:21] <ikonia> neurre: what makes you think GL is actually the problem rather than the way the virtual hardware is emulated or passed through ?
[09:21] <neurre> ikonia, desktop composition in guest uses GL. If VM implements GL poorly, it will result poor performance for example
[09:22] <neurre> some features might make the GL emulation through software paths
[09:22] <ikonia> neurre: yes, but it uses GL from a virtual device
[09:22] <neurre> ikonia, and that virtual device is implemented by VM
[09:23] <ikonia> neurre: no, it's offered by the host (and may not even tough the physical graphics card on the host) and presented to the guest, how it's presented and definition of what's presented is what will matter before the library set used to render
[09:23] <neurre> host does not offer virtual graphics cards, VM does
[09:24] <ikonia> neurre: the host does
[09:24] <neurre> not in case of windows host at least
[09:24] <ikonia> it does
[09:24] <ikonia> the vm guest just "consumes" what is offered/available
[09:24] <neurre> i can say that virtualbox and vmware GL implementations are very different
[09:25] <ikonia> vbox and vmware are different hypvervisors
[09:25] <neurre> if what you claim was true, then they would be more similar
[09:25] <ikonia> that's not what I'm saying
[09:25] <ikonia> what you are saying is that the hypervisors have different GL implementatins, which is true,
[09:25] <neurre> that is the whole point
[09:25] <ikonia> I'm saying that may not actually matter depending on how the card is presented to the guest
[09:26] <neurre> that part i dont follow
[09:26] <ikonia> just carry on then
[09:26] <neurre> i say it does matter, if the hypervisor has to fall back to software for example
[09:27] <neurre> or if hypervisor simply does not implement some feature, then guest has to implement some fallback
[09:27] <ikonia> the guest does not do anything
[09:27] <ikonia> the guest just "uses" a virtual card that is presented
[09:27] <neurre> its not that simple
[09:27] <ikonia> it really is
[09:28] <neurre> i leave it here that we disagree on that :)
[09:28] <ikonia> as I said, carry on
[09:32] <ubuntu\user> Currently updating my ubuntu.
[09:32] <ubuntu\user> I am satisfied on how it works.
[09:34] <guiverc> glad to hear it @ubuntu\user
[09:35] <ubuntu\user> I have dual boot.
[09:35] <ubuntu\user> Since my Windows 7 got a breakdown.
[09:35] <ubuntu\user> So i have Windows 10 and Ubuntu.
[09:37] <neurre> i have win10/ubuntu dualboot, and win10 laptop with ubuntu in virtual machine
[09:37] <neurre> on the dualboot machine some windows update once removed grub
[09:38] <neurre> good to know that it can happen..
[09:38] <neurre> so keep the installed/live usb stick around
[09:39] <_Dbug_> I've a question about backups. I've been using CrashPlan for a number of years to backup my ubuntu machine to some external machine, but I need to find an alternative solution before they shut down the service.
[09:39] <_Dbug_> I do have a NAS machine on my network (QNAP, if that matters), and I was wondering what would be a decent way to do backups. I don't really want to just rsync to a network share, because I'd like to be able to have an history of versions so I can revert in case of problem. Anything you could recommend?
[09:39] <ubuntu\user> Nothing, currently.
[09:40] <ubuntu\user> Anyways sorry for not responding. I am checking it's new features cause i weren't used to other operating systems,
[09:40] <ubuntu\user> The first operating system i ever had was Windows XP,
[09:40] <ubuntu\user> Then Windows 7 and Windows 10.
[09:41] <ubuntu\user> Now after the Windows 7 crashed, i asked my friend who is better than me in technology to fix this,
[09:41]  * _Dbug_ feels old reading that :D
[09:41] <ubuntu\user> He  added me dual-boot.
[09:41] <ducasse> _Dbug_: try backintime, it uses rsync as a backend but lets you restore a particular version
[09:41] <cfhowlett> ubuntu\user, do you have a support question?
[09:41] <ubuntu\user> No, this is some regular talk.
[09:41] <_Dbug_> ducasse, https://github.com/bit-team/backintime ?
[09:41] <ubuntu\user> If i ever needed support, id ask for it.
[09:42] <cfhowlett> ubuntu\user, as this channel is for support, perhaps you narrative would better fit #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:42] <ducasse> _Dbug_: it's packaged in ubuntu as 'backintime'
[09:42] <ubuntu\user> Thanks for telling me that.
[09:42] <_Dbug_> Ha ok, so it's an already supported/integrated/update package. Good to know. Thanks :)
[09:42] <ducasse> _Dbug_: it's packaged in ubuntu as 'backintime-gnome', sorry
[09:43] <ubuntu\user> I am new so i am not clearly that smart in this Ubuntu or HexChat.
[09:44] <_Dbug_> "Back In Time acts as a “user mode” backup system. This means that you can backup/restore only folders you have write access to (actually you can backup read-only folders, but you can’t restore them)."
[09:44] <_Dbug_> Would that be a problem in my case? I've basicalyl a webserver, svn repository, phpbb forum with the mysql database, plus some scripts and cronjobs stuff.
[09:45] <ducasse> _Dbug_: you can run it as root
[09:45] <_Dbug_> ok
[09:46] <FMan> hey
[09:48] <ubuntu\user> I am having issues on joining #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <FMan> welcome, ubuntu\user!
[09:49] <ducasse> !register | ubuntu\user
[09:49] <ubuntu\user> "Cannot join channel (r+) - you need to be identified with services"
[09:49] <FMan> I am already on too many offtopic channels :)
[09:50] <AmericanBlend> yeah, i can't join #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[09:50] <cfhowlett> seems to be sleeping
[09:51] <AmericanBlend> i wonder why
[09:51] <AmericanBlend> wait, i'm banned, that's why
[09:51] <ubuntu\user> I will try to currently register if it's even possible.
[09:51] <FMan> hahah
[09:51] <FMan> query nickserv and tell him "help register"
[09:54] <ubuntu\user> Thanks.
[09:55] <ubuntu\user> I am registered and a average user of your community.
[09:55] <ubuntu\user> I am entering ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:55] <ubuntu\user> Goodbye.
[10:12] <seif> Morning dear community, I have have been trying to connect my thinkpad E470 to the internet through wifi, unseccessfully
[10:13] <seif> Ubuntu does not recognize my wireless card
[10:16] <seif> y
[10:17] <faLUCE> hello. I'm trying to upgrade to the current version of ubuntu from the yakkety version. I ran "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"   but got lot of errors like   "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/oxide-qt/oxideqt-codecs-extra_1.21.5-0ubuntu0.16.10.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found"
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | faLUCE
[10:20] <faLUCE> thanks cfhowlett. I don't understand "
[10:20] <faLUCE> Update sources.list
[10:20] <faLUCE> To begin the upgrade, make sure you have a sources.list like the following, with CODENAME being your release, e.g. quantal.
[10:20] <faLUCE> "
[10:20] <faLUCE> I have sources.list
[10:20] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, the current LTS release is XENIAL.  edit your software sources accordingly
[10:22] <faLUCE> cfhowlett: then that line in the doc is wrong: it says "being YOUR release", not "being the release you want"
[10:22] <cfhowlett> read it again
[10:22] <faLUCE> cfhowlett: done, I don't understand yet
[10:23] <faLUCE> cfhowlett: do I have to replace "xenial" for all the "yakkety" token in sources.list
[10:23] <faLUCE> tokenS
[10:23] <cfhowlett> dude.  xenial is the one you want.
[10:25] <kostkon> faLUCE, don't be in denial type XENIAL
[10:26] <faLUCE> kostkon: ?
[10:26] <faLUCE> (let's cross fingers)
[10:26] <kostkon> faLUCE, nothing
[10:30] <Tecan> http://netpipe.ca  , got my blog back up
[10:34] <onio1> Hi I am trying to connect to a remote server using Filezilla with ssh id_rsa.pub keys any suggestions?
[10:36] <energizer> Is there anything like `curl` that's built into ubuntu?
[10:36] <akik> energizer: wget
[10:37] <onio1> remote server is another Linux machine. I can log into the server machine from the command line using ssh keys but can't log with Filezilla
[10:37] <energizer> akik: are you sure?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> wget is absolutely in ubuntu, energizer
[10:38] <akik> onio1: private key on the client, public on the server. you just need to find the correct place for the keys if filezilla supports it
[10:38] <energizer> `docker run ubuntu wget` says `\"wget\": executable file not found in $PATH"`
[10:39] <akik> energizer: maybe add it to your docker image?
[10:39] <energizer> akik: i mean that suggests it isnt built in
[10:40] <onio1> akik: In Filezilla there is File | Settings |  Connection |  FTP | SFTP I put my private ssh key but it does not connect
[10:40] <akik> energizer: looks like it's not  in that docker image then. it's in the desktop/server versions
[10:41] <akik> onio1: does not connect? what does  that mean?
[10:41] <ricardo> hi to everyone
[10:41] <ricardo> I have a simple question
[10:42] <ricardo> How to remove the pending task column in evolution mail client?
[10:42] <akik> onio1: have you made the keys with ssh-keygen?
[10:42] <onio1> I can't connect to the server. I expect the remote pane on Filezilla to show me the contents of the server
[10:42] <onio1> akik: yes
[10:42] <energizer> how can i find a list of packages that are built in?
[10:43] <onio1> like I mention this works from the command line okay
[10:43] <cfhowlett> energizer, dpkg -l
[10:43] <energizer> cfhowlett: like is there a list on ubuntu.org or something?
[10:43] <akik> onio1: maybe you input the server address wrong
[10:45] <onio1> akik: it is the same address as I use on the command line
[10:48] <Tecan> was wondering if anyone knows what package eval_gettext is apart of ?
[10:48] <akik> onio1: but if you get connection time-out or other error related to the connection?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Tecan, apt policy packagename
[10:52] <onio1> akik: sorry wrong window
[10:52] <akik> onio1: are both server and client ubuntu?
[10:53] <onio1> Status: Connected to "my ipaddress"
[10:53] <akik> onio1: thinking whether you copied the key in a way that broke it
[10:53] <onio1> Error: Received unexpected end-of-file from SFTP server
[10:55] <onio1> akik: Server is not Ubuntu but an ARM based device running busybox
[10:57] <akik> onio1: does the server even support scp/sftp? have you tested?
[10:57] <onio1> akik: slight diversion from my question. I am new to IRC channels, what is the best way to reply to a person. I noticed that when I click on your name to respond it opens up a new tab for me. But what I want is reply back to current window
[10:57] <akik> onio1: write "nick: message"
[10:58] <onio1> akik:  does the server even support scp/sftp? have you tested? Yes
[10:59] <akik> onio1: ok sorry i don't know what could be the problem. maybe it's a  problem with filezilla. i thin it's not from ubuntu repos
[10:59] <onio1> "akik:This is a test message"
[11:00] <akik> onio1: all the messages are public here
[11:01] <akik> onio1: for private messages "/msg nick message"
[11:01] <onio1> akik: I was only wondering if I am entering my messages wrong. For instance when I reply to you I first type your name followed by my message. I assume this is the only way to direct the message to someone
[11:10] <akik> onio1: sorry i was wrong. filezilla is in the repos
[11:24] <ricardo> How to remove the pending task column in evolution mail client?
[11:25] <Kitana> to check out
[11:47] <neurre> Hi
[11:47] <neurre> i get N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default
[11:47] <neurre> how do i fix that?
[11:47] <neurre> i know the repo i added, so I just want fix the "disabled by default" part
[11:49] <ikonia> neurre: undersand why it's not secure and fix it
[11:50] <neurre> not secure because they havent bothered to fix their certifcates
[11:51] <ikonia> don't use it then
[11:51] <neurre> not an option
[11:51] <ikonia> sounds like poor work
[11:52] <ikonia> you'll need to look for the override setting in the repo config then
[12:00] <gioan> hello
[12:02] <tomreyn> hello there gioan
[12:02] <M1K4> c
[12:10] <mark721> hi guys
[12:10] <mark721> so yesterday i joined and explained the issue with my pc and how i realised there is a weird sound on boot. i was advised to open it
[12:10] <mark721> so i did and i booted
[12:11] <mark721> and it was clear the issue is from the fan
[12:11] <mark721> i.e the loud noise is produced from the fan
[12:11] <mark721> but it seems like the issue is the fan isnt tightned enough soo it doesnt rotate evenly!
[12:11] <cfhowlett>  clearly not an ubuntu issue then, right?
[12:12] <mark721> oh well initially it was lol
[12:12] <mark721> since i didnt know where the issue was from
[12:13] <mark721> cfhowlett,  mybad i forgot lol, before i leave does anyone know how im supposed to tighten thje fan?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> mark721, screwdrivers.  lots of screwdrivers.
[12:13] <yeats> mark721: /join #hardware
[12:14] <mark721> yeats, perfect ty so much
[12:14] <mark721> oh it says its invite only :(
[12:14] <yeats> mark721: /join #hardware
[12:14] <yeats> sorry
[12:15] <cfhowlett> confirmed.
[12:15] <mark721> yeats, yeah its invite only...
[12:15] <cfhowlett> invite only
[12:15] <mark721> ok np google is fine
[12:15] <yeats> hmm, I joined ok and wasn't invited - not sure what that's about
[12:15] <yeats> oh - ##hardware
[12:16] <cfhowlett> mark721, look up your computer model.  you should be able to download the support/maintenance manual with detailed instructions or find a youtube video of same
[12:16] <yeats> my IRC client forwarded me automatically
[12:21] <mark721> cfhowlett, i doubt it includes how to tighten the cpu fan lol
[12:26] <Outy> tighten cpu fab ?
[12:26] <Outy> n
[12:26] <mark721> i mean its the cpu fan thats causing the rattling and it is wobbling as it spins
[12:27] <mark721> like when u see a spoiler on a car tire and it looks werid as the wheel turns
[12:27] <mark721> its not major wobbling but yes wobbling so i assume it needs to be tightened
[12:27] <Outy> mark721: is it laptop or desktop
[12:27] <mark721> desktop
[12:28] <mark721> its open right now, i got the chassis off
[12:28] <Outy> mark721: what is the model ?
[12:29] <mark721> Outy, inspiron 3847
[12:29] <mark721> dell *
[12:33] <Outy> mark721: i'll recommend to buy a new one for about 15 bucks. take off old cpu cooler. clean off old thermal paste! install this one (thermal paste included): https://www.arctic.ac/de_en/a11.html
[12:33] <Outy> mark721: this is a really good and quiet one
[12:34] <mark721> Outy, :( was looking for a quick fix
[12:35] <Outy> mark721: when installing push hard on the mounting pins until you hear a double click... than its done right and cpu cooler is tightened safely
[12:35] <mark721> Outy, isn't there a way for me to tighten the fan/
[12:35] <mark721> ?
[12:35] <Outy> mark721: there is no quick fix sorry. its worn out and ther is nearly nothing you can do about it
[12:36] <mark721> Outy, i saw on yt u can just use a screw driver? but mine doesnt have a visible scren
[12:36] <mark721> *screw
[12:36] <mark721> in the centre of the fan
[12:36] <mark721> its just all plastic.
[12:36] <Outy> mark721: unfortunatly most cpu coolers are not designed to be fixed
[12:37] <mark721> Outy, oh lol true
[12:37] <mark721> Outy, last thing, im really busy atm. say i dont bother to fix it
[12:37] <mark721> and i mean the fan still spins
[12:37] <mark721> is it an issue if i can bare the noise?
[12:39] <mark721> Outy, ?
[12:39] <Outy> mark721: no issue. if it still spins its ok. when it stops spinning an alarm maybe sound from pc speaker if it is configured in bios. or you'll hear nothing and cpu will get warmer. but intel cpu will underclock if temp gets too hot
[12:39] <Outy> mark721: so don't worry
[12:39] <mark721> Phew ty so much Outy
[12:39] <mark721> its so weird lol i have another 10 year old dell
[12:40] <mark721> and i dont think its had this issue
[12:40] <Outy> mark721: for cheap and very good alternative go with the alpine 11 cpu cooler
[12:40] <mark721> Outy, there is also another reason i dont like playing with hardware is that i dont know why but i feel if i unplug stuff
[12:40] <mark721> it wont work when i plug it back in lol
[12:40] <mark721> just in my head ;P
[12:41] <Outy> mark721: you'll do fine - believe in yourself =)
[12:42] <Outy> mark721: just remember if you install alpine 11 cpu cooler push the mounting pins hard until you hear the click.
[12:43] <mark721> Outy, will be screenshotting this :)
[12:44] <mark721> Thank you Outy  and have an awesome day
[12:45] <Outy> thank you - have a nice day too
[13:11] <jk^> hi, i can't install tor according to these instructions !tor
[13:11] <jk^> !tor
[13:25] <tomreyn> jk^: so which repository are you using, what happens when you do?
[13:26] <jk^> just a moment
[13:26] <jk^> i paste
[13:28] <tomreyn> good, describing the issue in some detail should always be done when asking for assistence here. otherwise no one will be able to help.
[13:30] <ekn2> What is the simplest way to install the JDK on Ubuntu? Why is it seemingly more complicated than just apt-get java?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:31] <tomreyn> ekn2: because "java" is a programming language, not a declarative name ofr a package. you are looking for the openjdk family of packages
[13:32] <ekn2> I said "install the JDK". I just used "java" as an example; call it whatever you want
[13:32] <tomreyn> ekn2: i understand. i'm just saying "java" would be a bad package name, thus it's called differently
[13:32] <ekn2> Is this a help channel?
[13:33] <tomreyn> ekn2: yes and i'm trying to help. got another question?
[13:33] <ekn2> I don't think my first question was answered
[13:33] <ioria> ekn2,  JDK it's the development kit, not the jre (base java vm)
[13:34] <ioria> !info default-jre
[13:34] <ekn2> Yes, I want the JDK!
[13:34] <ioria> !info default-jdk
[13:34] <ekn2> Thank you
[13:34] <ioria> ok
[13:34] <ekn2> I will try this
[13:35] <tomreyn> ekn2: oh, sorry, i thought i had. the packages called openjdk* are what you're looking for. or just the 'default-jdk' (i didn't remember this one)
[13:37] <ekn2> Thank you. I'm installing it now
[13:39] <simon42> ekn2, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[13:39] <simon42> sudo apt-get update
[13:39] <simon42> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[13:39] <simon42> apt-get install oracle-java8-set-default
[13:40] <czwolf> hello, would you know pls: I have removed docker from pc by "sudo apt-get purge docker-ce" and sudo "apt-get purge docker" and "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/docker" Then I made install again sudo  apt-get install docker. It installed. But now when I run docker I get message it is NOT installed and when I try to install it again it says it IS installed. What would you do to fix it?
[13:40] <ekn2> simon42: Thanks
[13:40] <tomreyn> simon42: if you recommend a PPa over what's in ubuntu, i think it'd be nice to explain why.
[13:40] <ekn2> I'd rather not add another repository if I don't have to. Is there a good reason to use Oracle's JDK?
[13:40] <simon42> tomreyn, srry but it was just a recipe. you say it is in main already?
[13:41] <ekn2> I think the default is OpenJDK
[13:41] <tomreyn> simon42: openjdk has been in ubuntu for years
[13:42] <simon42> tomreyn, no contest. decide for yourself.
[13:42] <ekn2> That recipe is what I saw when I googled installing the JDK on Ubuntu
[13:44] <ekn2> I have an unrelated queston: Is there a way to see all the packages that have been explicitly installed?
[13:44] <ekn2> No dependencies
[13:45] <ekn2> I don't know how, so I just keep a list in a file in case I want to revert to a clean system
[13:47] <simon42> ekn2, apt-mark ?
[13:47] <simon42> synaptic?
[13:49] <ioria> ekn2, manually you might parse history.x files : zgrep "apt  install" /var/log/apt/history* ; or you can explore the debfoster pkg
[13:50] <ioria> !info debfoster
[13:50] <ekn2> Huh?
[13:50] <ioria> ekn2, you can check the manpage here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/artful/man8/debfoster.8.html
[13:51] <simon42> ekn2, "apt-mark showmanual"
[13:52] <ekn2> apt-mark showmanual shows way more packages than I personally installed
[13:52] <ekn2> It seems to be showing dependencies
[13:55] <ekn2> ioria: Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm only interested in tools that already come with Ubuntu. Otherwise, keeping a list in a file is what I'll stick to
[13:55] <simon42> nope
[13:57] <ekn2> simon42: apt-mark showmanual shows a bunch of unity packages. I never installed unity
[13:58] <ekn2> I have only installed ~10 packages with apt-get
[14:09] <Curi0> I installed minimal Ubuntu and then installed X and put docky in xinitrc and docky gives an error about not finding dbus
[14:09] <Curi0> how can i install dbus ?
[14:10] <Curi0> whats happening ?
[14:10] <Curi0> also when i run dbus-launch docky it works
[14:11] <Outy> Curi0: its called a netsplit
[14:11] <ekn2> Found the answer here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages
[14:12] <ekn2> Kind of a kludgy solution but it works
[14:12] <Outy> Curi0: people are connected to different irc servers. if these servers are out of sync due to diconnects it looks like all the people in the chat are disappearing
[14:12] <simon42_> ekn2, it looks nice. didnt know about /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz
[14:14] <simon42_> ekn2, next time, do a 'debfoster -q' after CD install, next time run 'debfoster' to cleanup interactive.
[14:15] <simon42_> or edit /var/lib/debfoster/keep
[14:15] <simon42_> keepers
[14:17] <jk^> tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/raw/W6wiMTX2
[14:21] <jk^> !tor
[14:28] <eraserpencil> hey guys, I have a txt file that I'd like to convert to ascii
[14:28] <eraserpencil> is there a tool i could use?
[14:29] <eraserpencil> sorry, it's a txt file of hexadecimal numbers
[14:29] <jk^> !tor-browser
[14:29] <jk^> !tor browser
[14:35] <tomreyn> jk^: so you have already something listening on port 9050. "lsof -i :9050" to find out what
[14:35] <mystik972> hi everyone, can someone help me about shotwell's google photos plugin?
[14:36] <jk^> i just want to know. I installed it but i can't find it in any menus
[14:36] <jk^> it doesn't appear anywhere
[14:36] <jk^> :|
[14:36] <tomreyn> jk^: "it" being what, tor?
[14:36] <jk^> yes
[14:36] <jk^> i can't open it
[14:36] <tomreyn> jk^: it's a command line interface utility.
[14:36] <jk^> user@user-PT601ET-ABZ:~$ lsof -i :9050
[14:36] <jk^> user@user-PT601ET-ABZ:~$
[14:36] <jk^> :-o
[14:36] <tomreyn> jk^: or a service rather
[14:37] <jk^> i try to download "Tor browser" but i can't install it :(
[14:37] <jk^> uff
[14:37] <jk^> https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en
[14:37] <tomreyn> jk^: sudo for lsof
[14:37] <jk^> 32 bit version
[14:38] <jk^> user@user-PT601ET-ABZ:~$ sudo lsof -i :9050
[14:38] <jk^> [sudo] password di user:
[14:38] <jk^> COMMAND  PID       USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
[14:38] <jk^> tor     8879 debian-tor    6u  IPv4  59184      0t0  TCP localhost:9050 (LISTEN)
[14:38] <jk^> user@user-PT601ET-ABZ:~$
[14:38] <akik> i think if you only install "tor", you'll get the tor relay, not the tor browser
[14:38] <tomreyn> jk^: i don't think tor browser is meant to be installed. help on it is probably available in #tor on irc.oftc.net (but also here on freenode)
[14:39] <tomreyn> jk^: so you have the tor relay service running, just need to use it.
[14:39] <jk^> i'm using linux since little time :\ i don't understand very well how to install a software :\
[14:39] <jk^> if i wanto to install tor browser?
[14:39] <jk^> i downloaded https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser//7.5/tor-browser-linux32-7.5_it.tar.xz
[14:40] <jk^> i extract it
[14:40] <tomreyn> jk^: the tor browser bundle is probably a bad example there since i don't think it is supposed to be installed, like other (packaged) software is.
[14:40] <jk^> it appears a file and a folder
[14:40] <TJ-> jk^: did you read the instructions at https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#linux
[14:40] <jk^> the file's name is "Tor browser setup", i double click it, but nothing happens
[14:41] <tomreyn> jk^: just follow the directions TJ- pointed you to then.
[14:42] <TJ-> tomreyn: sounds like jk did; but the GUI launch isn't kicking off Firefox
[14:42] <tomreyn> maybe because he has tor installed already?
[14:42] <tomreyn> not sure
[14:42] <TJ-> tomreyn: jk^ yes, I was thinking the same thing. Port in use sort-of-thing
[14:43] <tomreyn> that's what the output he posted indicated
[14:45] <jk^> something happens but i don't understand what happened :\ The file previosly named "Tor browser setup" now is became Tor browser :| why?
[14:45] <tomreyn> i'm on amd64, using the 32-bit tor browser bundle results in a graphical message window saying "Wrong architecture? 32-bit vs. 64-bit." and the browser not starting
[14:45] <tomreyn> jk^: explain what you are doing
[14:47] <jk^> i downloaded https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser//7.5/tor-browser-linux32-7.5_it.tar.xz extract it and double clicked "Tor browser setup" after several minutes, this file "Tor browser setup" has changed its name in "Tor browser" :\
[14:48] <tomreyn> jk^: don't double click it, do as indicated on the instructions
[14:49] <jk^> oh my God, why is it so difficult install a software on linux? :(
[14:50] <tomreyn> jk^: it is not. also, this is not a standard software installation. secondly, you just need to follow the directions provided by the tor project, not do śomething else you got used to on other operating systems
[14:51] <tomreyn> jk^: you can roll back now by closing any windows it may have opened, then delete the directory that was extracted from the archive file you downloaded. then just follow the directions provided.
[14:51] <CookieM> Tor needs a couple of seconds to appear on the screen, i.e. establish a connection with tor nodes and things like that
[14:52] <tomreyn> it would have shown a message GUI before that, however. i don't think jk^ got to this point, yet
[15:02] <tomreyn> jk^: any luck?
[15:03] <jk^> tomreyn, maybe
[15:03] <jk^> :\
[15:03] <tomreyn> jk^: do you want me to guide you?
[15:03] <jk^> To run Tor Browser, click either on the Tor Browser or the Tor Browser Setup icon or execute the start-tor-browser.desktop file in a terminal:
[15:03] <jk^> ./start-tor-browser.desktop
[15:03] <jk^> This will launch Tor Launcher and once that connects to Tor, it will launch Firefox. Do not unpack or run TBB as root.
[15:04] <jk^> i think this is the same to open this file by double click :\
[15:05] <tomreyn> jk^: oh you're right - my bad, i had not read the instructions there properly, just read the command line approach, not the icon clicking one.
[15:05] <tomreyn> sorry.
[15:06] <tomreyn> jk^: the good thing about using the terminal approach is that you'll have a much better chance of getting an explanation on why things fail.
[15:06] <tomreyn> jk^: so i recommend you give this approach a try.
[15:13] <jk^> user@user-PT601ET-ABZ:~/Scaricati/tor-browser_it$ ./start-tor-browser.desktop
[15:13] <jk^> Launching './Browser/start-tor-browser --detach'...
[15:13] <jk^> user@user-PT601ET-ABZ:~/Scaricati/tor-browser_it$
[15:13] <jk^> tomreyn,
[15:14] <jk^> but in that folder there isn't a file  named ./start-tor-browser.desktop :\
[15:14] <jk^> excuse me but i don't understand why it doesn't let me open it by click :|
[15:15] <VectorX> hi, why am i getting a permission denied with, sudo echo "extension=gearman.so" > /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/gearman.ini    /   -bash: /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/gearman.ini: Permission denied
[15:17] <TJ-> VectorX: because sudo only applies to the echo command, not the redirection.
[15:17] <VectorX> how do i make that work
[15:17] <TJ-> VectorX: you need "echo "extension=gearman.so" | sudo tee /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/gearman.ini "
[15:18] <TJ-> VectorX: it's the 'write-to-file' that needs 'sudo', not the 'echo'
[15:18] <VectorX> ok
[15:19] <VectorX> can i login as root instead ok using sudo
[15:23] <stochastix> I can download 18.04 right now and get started with it , and when it finally comes out in April, mine will update to basically the same thing that comes out for the final release right?
[15:24] <stochastix> Or is there an upgrade path or certain repos I need to switch over to?
[15:25] <jk^> nothing to do!!! :( it doesn't let me open tor browser :\
 jk^: do you want me to guide you?
[15:25] <jk^> ok guide me
[15:26] <jk^> possible by graphic commands :\
[15:26] <jk^> possibly by graphic commands :\
[15:28] <TJ-> stochastix: correct; the ISO installers are just a 'freeze' of the set of packages at a certain time.
[15:30] <kostkon> stochastix, you may face some breakages still, if you install it right now
[15:31] <l0llip0p> exit
[15:31] <l0llip0p> lol * facepalm *
[15:31] <kostkon> stochastix, regardless the fact that in the end you will have the final version, the iso version, on the release day (or a couple of days later)
[15:41] <tomreyn> jk^: still interested?
[15:46] <Outy> speaking about tee woud that be a correct syntax?: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[15:46] <TJ-> kostkon: it's the other way around; existing installs will be a about a week ahead of the release ISOs.
[15:48] <kostkon> TJ-, for testing purposes. you're right :/
[15:54] <Tulitomaatti> i have 5 ubuntu nodes on my lan – how do i configure ntp.conf so that they attempt to keep at the same time? does adding peer hostname -lines to each node's config suffice?
[15:57] <tomreyn> Tulitomaatti: you can just configure them to use the same public nameserver. but other than that, i would think so.
[15:58] <Tulitomaatti> as in to get the correct ntp server info from the dns?
[16:01] <mrchairman> When my gnome remote sftp connect gets wonky, is there a way to "kill all" the base program so I can reset it? It just hangs, and hangs like a punk a kid on a street corner
[16:04] <mrchairman> teach me your ways
[16:04] <mrchairman> I seek guidance wise #ubuntu
[16:04] <kostkon> mrchairman, tried resetting nautilus? i like your analogy though
[16:04] <kostkon> mrchairman, or gnome files in contemporary parlance
[16:04] <mrchairman> i'll try that, that sounds like practical advice. I hadnt
[16:05] <mrchairman> err hadnt tried
[16:06] <ikonia> there is a timeout value for remote ftp file systems
[16:06] <ikonia> you may want to find that and lower it
[16:06] <mrchairman> i could do a nautilus -q, but then i saw killall nautilus
[16:07] <mrchairman> In case any women are watching, I used killall so I look tough
[16:08] <MikeRL> I wonder if VLC will ever be updated to 3.0 for Xenial.
[16:09] <mrchairman> did work
[16:09] <kostkon> MikeRL, only if you use the snap version (works ok afaik)
[16:09] <mrchairman> I could solve this problem or day or reboot
[16:09] <mrchairman> I'll be back jack!
[16:09] <kostkon> MikeRL, remoe the version from the repos and then  sudo snap install vlc
[16:10] <ikonia> MikeRL: doubt it
[16:16] <machine_> Hi - just installed ubuntu and cant download any torrents in transmission
[16:16] <machine_> I cant find the setting where I change the port
[16:16] <machine_> propreties show only torrent propreties
[16:16] <machine_> nevermind ... got it
[16:29] <learningc> what is difference between apt and apt-get?
[16:29] <compdoc> apt is newer
[16:30] <compdoc> 16.04 onwards
[16:35] <tomreyn> learningc: apt is not (yet?) suitable for scripting, apt-get ist. for many commands, apt is a more user-friendly frontend to apt-get.
[16:36] <ioria>  'apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts.'  in this case better use apt-get
[16:37] <learningc> So when I want to install a package which one to use? I'm quite confuse about it.
[16:38] <learningc> apt install mypackage or apt-get install my package?
[16:39] <simon42_> learningc, same difference
[16:40] <learningc> You mean?
[16:42] <ioria> learningc, for that you can use 'apt install ppkg ', but apt gets a  progress bar not very happy to interact with a script output
[16:49] <learningc> I see
[17:01] <mexjerry> intel NUC with ubuntu kodi, going to sleep, using remote or yatse will NOT wake it, I have to reboot pointers, please
[17:01] <ikonia> there is no such thing as ubuntu odi
[17:01] <ikonia> kodi
[17:02] <compdoc> I run kodi on a rasp pi and leave it running all the time
[17:08] <learningc> when I do update and upgrade, will my ubuntu be the lastest?
[17:10] <learningc> compdoc, what distro do you use to run kodi on your pi?
[17:13] <mexjerry> it is Ubuntu, running kodi, ikonia
[17:13] <mexjerry> so what is needed to prevent or wake it up
[17:13] <ikonia> What version of ubuntu is it ?
[17:13] <ikonia> and is it the OS thats going to sleep, the display or kodi
[17:13] <tony__> I'm trying to get GPU passthrough working with Intel IGD for the Ubuntu host and AMD r9 280x for the windows VM. I want pci-stub to takeover the device but it seems at boot "drm" does something that screws it up
[17:14] <ikonia> how was Kodi installed
[17:14] <tony__> [    0.709083] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (TAHITI 0x1002:0x6798 0x1682:0x3001 0x00).
[17:14] <tony__> That's the VID:PID for the AMD GPU
[17:14] <mexjerry> ubuntu 17, if on kodi the display just quits
[17:15] <ikonia> mexjerry: how was kodi installed, and you need to explain "display just quits"
[17:15] <ikonia> as "quits" is very different to going to slleep
[17:16] <TJ-> tony__: I seem to recall the amd drivers have an option to stop them claiming the device so pcistub can
[17:16] <tomreyn> mexjerry: there is not "ubuntu 17". lsb_release -sd
[17:17] <mexjerry> apt install kodi, I am able to ssh in and see everything, ifconfig, ps ax, so its not entirely asleep, but I have no display, I am unable to see the
[17:17] <TJ-> tony__: check which driver has claimed the device ("lspci -nnk -d 1002:6798") then check the modules parameters with "modinfo <modululename>"
[17:17] <mexjerry> display, just says "no Signal, I have to reboot to get the display
[17:18] <tony__> TJ-: cool =] it's "radeon", I suspected it would take over. I think I'll just blacklist it and update-initramfs
[17:19] <arunpyasi> Hi there, does anyone here had issues connecting a projector to your ubuntu 16.04 ?
[17:19] <TJ-> tony__: yes, that would work :)
[17:19] <tony__> rebooting, will keep you updated. thanks dude =]
[17:19] <ikonia> mexjerry: so is the display going to sleep or kodi
[17:19] <mexjerry> ikonia how would one determine?
[17:20] <arunpyasi> I can get projector working in windows and other OS but not in Ubuntu 16.04
[17:20] <ikonia> looking at the logs to see the state of different components
[17:20] <kostkon> arunpyasi, you'd have to describe your problem in more detail
[17:21] <kostkon> arunpyasi, to get any sensible answers/support
[17:22] <tony___> TJ-: yup it worked :) pci-stub claims my GPU. thanks so much!
[17:23] <OerHeks> maybe kodi and wayland give such display issues?
[17:26] <arunpyasi> kostkon, I am not sure how shall I describe. I plugin the projector's VGA to my laptop and nothing pops up.. I don't see any traces in Display application.. but in windows, it works :(
[17:26] <OerHeks> arunpyasi, you migh have a FN key + display internal/external/both
[17:27] <goiko> hi, I did an upgrade of my system and now I get an error: "grub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1' in file `/etc/default/grub'.."
[17:28] <arunpyasi> OerHeks, I already did that
[17:28] <goiko> I added the line in the file and what now?
[17:28] <arunpyasi> OerHeks, nothing works on doing that.
[17:28] <TJ-> arunpyasi: it may be an ACPI issue. what does "xrandr -q" show when the VGA projector is plugged in ?
[17:28] <arunpyasi> TJ-, ok, didn't do that.
[17:28] <arunpyasi> TJ-, will do tomorrow.
[17:28] <arunpyasi> TJ-, and what if it didnt show ? What shall I proceed to fix it ?
[17:30] <TJ-> arunpyasi: that'd indicate some detection issue. I'd start by checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if the VGA projector is reported to the X server. If not, I'd suspect a system firmware issue. Is the VGA connector built in on the PC or on a discrete GPU adapter?
[17:30] <kostkon> goiko, sudo update-grub?
[17:32] <goiko> kostkon, yeah i did it, when i try to upgrade again, i have the same error
[17:32] <arunpyasi> TJ-, its my laptop so, I guess it falls under built in on the PC
[17:33] <TJ-> arunpyasi: right, then if it is an ACPI issue there may be a workaround. I know of at least 1 laptop where this fixed a 'missing' external video connector port. http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[17:33] <goiko> kostkon: it says: "dpkg: error processing package grub-efi-amd64-signed (--configure):
[17:33] <goiko>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[17:36] <tallguy> g'mrn ubuntu folks
[17:36] <TJ-> goiko: unless things have changed recently, the efi-signed bootloader doesn't have the cryptodisk module built in; that may be the cause of your error
[17:37] <goiko> TJ-, ah okay, so what should i do to get rid of this error?
[17:38] <TJ-> goiko: you need to find out if that's the cause first. Try doing "sudo grub-install --verbose /dev/sdX" (where X is the boot device) to get a clue
[17:41] <flashmozzg> Hello, I'm trying to install gcc-7.3 from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/gcc-7.3 on 16.04 Xenial
[17:42] <flashmozzg> But I get multiple "Depends: cpp-7(or others) (= 7.3.0-...) but 7.2.0 is to be installed)" errors
[17:44] <OerHeks> maybe you need !hwe for that private ppa to work?
[17:44] <OerHeks> !hwe
[17:45] <ikonia> cpp is a compiler
[17:45] <ikonia> it's more likely the guy who runs the PPA has not done a good job of managing dependencies
[17:45] <kostkon> flashmozzg, we don't support ppas though. they usually create/cause dependency problems.
[17:46] <ikonia> and either a.) didn't upload the deps to his PPA b.) didn't reference an another external PPA for the deps
[17:46] <ikonia> either way, it looks sloppy to me and I wouldn't be using the work
[17:46] <ikonia> (the more simple answer is run apt-get update and make sure your cacheis up to date)
[17:47] <Colby_> Id like to download Ubuntu software.
[17:47] <TJ-> flashmozzg: is there a reason you need 7.3? reptoline perhaps?
[17:48] <flashmozzg> ikonia I ran apt-get update, If it didn't pick it up it wouldn't even try to update to 7.3.0 (as I already have 7.2.0 installed). It looks like all packages from the error should be built in that ppa, except binutils
[17:48] <Colby_> Because my computer is not really right
[17:48] <ikonia> you really shouldn't be updating binutils
[17:49] <kostkon> Colby_, what's your exact problem
[17:49] <Colby_> My computer is kinda stupid
[17:49] <ikonia> Colby_: come on
[17:49] <ikonia> Colby_: describe the problem properly, or don't waste peoples time please
[17:49] <goiko> TJ-, the last log lines say: "info: no partition map found for lvmid/z6beUE-..." and "no partition map found for crypto0."
[17:49] <kostkon> Colby_, by nature yes, but what is exactly the problem you are facing with it
[17:49] <Colby_> Well...
[17:50] <arooni> question:  i have a 4 .mkv files that are quite large (500mb - 4gb).  whats the *fastest lowest cpu way* to convert them to audio only in a .mp4, or .mp3 format ?
[17:50] <TJ-> goiko: that seems to confirm it is related to the missing cryptodisk module
[17:50] <goiko> ah okay
[17:50] <Colby_> It has weird stuff, I cant run anything. Like therun.
[17:51] <ikonia> "the run"
[17:51] <goiko> how do I install the module, any clue?
[17:51] <ikonia> and "can't run" - explain the problem please
[17:51] <ikonia> Colby_: you really need to explain the problem clearly
[17:51] <flashmozzg> ikonia: hm, I really need 7.3.0 though. And it doesn't look like ubuntu test ppa is going to be updated with a new version. Maybe it'll get 8.1 but I don't know when it's going to be released. Looks like it's at least a few mopnths from now.
[17:52] <ikonia> flashmozzg: ubuntu will rarely update it's compiler stack in a current distro
[17:52] <kostkon> arooni, with ffmpeg?
[17:52] <TJ-> goiko: I suspect you'll either need to use the unsigned package and disable Secure Boot, or with S.B. enabled you'll need to enroll your own personal MOK signing key using MOK tools and use grub-efi-amd64 packages
[17:52] <Colby_> The computer I have is jammed with a bunch of stuff odd stuff.
[17:52] <ikonia> flashmozzg: I really wouldn't be using random PPA's for that sort of things
[17:52] <arooni> kostkon: i dont have to juse ffmpeg
[17:52] <arooni> whatever is easier
[17:52] <TJ-> flashmozzg: what functionality do you need from 7.3 ?
[17:52] <flashmozzg> ikonia: beats compiling from scratch on a weak machine.
[17:52] <mamari> hello
[17:53] <mamari> how are you
[17:53] <ikonia> flashmozzg: no it doesn't
[17:53] <ikonia> flashmozzg: not if the guy building the PPA can't manage the packages, you can't trust the work
[17:53] <ikonia> and as TJ- said what is it about 7.3 you need thats not in 7.2
[17:53] <flashmozzg> TJ-: there was a bug that caused crashes for my program that was fixed.
[17:53] <kostkon> arooni, handbrake then?  sudo snap install handbrake-jz
[17:54] <TJ-> flashmozzg: OK, because we've had a lot of requests for 7.3 recently for the retpoline patches, which are in the regular  gcc-5 since 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.8
[17:54] <stochastix> kostkon: Thanks for that info. So, after the official release, do they basically freeze the packages in the repos, other than security updates and stuff?
[17:54] <goiko> TJ-, thanks, so I guess disabling Secure Boot is the simplest solution, is it a common error?
[17:55] <TJ-> goiko: not many people seem to use encrypted /boot/ with EFI. I posted a bug about it a long time ago but not seen any change so far
[17:55] <kostkon> stochastix, you are spot on
[17:56] <stochastix> kostkon: thanks :)
[17:56] <kostkon> stochastix, np
[17:57] <Colby__> U will never stop me!
[17:57] <kostkon> Colby__ is probaly a bot
[17:57] <Colby__> nope real human
[17:57] <erasmus> I need to locate someone here who is knowledgeable in regards to loading firmware.
[17:58] <TJ-> erasmus: for devices via their drivers? usually auto-loaded on request from the kernel by udev, from /lib/firmware/
[17:58] <erasmus> yeah it sees it cause the module is in the kernel.
[17:58] <erasmus> but I don't get a device from it.
[17:58] <erasmus> I put the firmware into /lib/firmware
[17:59] <erasmus> it's a hauppauge usb wintv tuner 950Q
[17:59] <TJ-> erasmus: probably means the file being requested isn't being found. What does 'dmesg' show? which driver/firmware is it?
[17:59] <erasmus> one sec
[17:59] <Colby__> 1 done
[18:00] <Colby__> TImes up by 35 sec
[18:01] <Colby__> hello?
[18:01] <Tathagat> hi
[18:01] <Trent> Hello, where can I learn more about disabling secure boot to install third-party software?
[18:02] <erasmus> TJ- termbin.com/bz0n
[18:02] <Colby__> what third-party software?
[18:02] <goiko> Trent: I found a section in the UEFI Help wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[18:03] <erasmus> TJ- termbin.com/8m0c
[18:03] <Colby__> Tj is not here
[18:04] <erasmus> TJ- https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950Q#Firmware
[18:04] <erasmus> Colby__?
[18:04] <Tathagat> how can i register my email-id?
[18:04] <TJ-> erasmus: I see the "au0828" module claims that device but the module doesn't list a firmware file
[18:04] <Colby__> I aid tj is not here
[18:04] <kostkon> !register | Tathagat
[18:04] <Colby__> i said
[18:04] <erasmus> TJ- I was told to ask here but I'm running an OS based on ubuntu.
[18:04] <erasmus> it's GalliumOS.
[18:05] <erasmus> this is one a Chromebook an Acer C720
[18:05] <Colby__> did someone soy Colby_?
[18:05] <erasmus> s/one/on
[18:05] <erasmus> someone in #galliumos told me to ask in here.
[18:06] <erasmus> GalliumOS 2.0 is based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)
[18:07] <erasmus> it works fine in Ubuntu and a Mint box.
[18:08] <erasmus> is it possible the distro has a alt location for a device such as this?
[18:08] <erasmus> like /lib/firmware/4.8.17-gallium/
[18:08] <ducasse> erasmus: we don't support derivatives, you need to get support in #galliumos
[18:09] <Tathagat2006> i am a beginner and want to start linux kernel dev
[18:09] <erasmus> sorta knew you would say that.
[18:09] <Tathagat2006> what resources to use and in which order?
[18:09] <TJ-> erasmus: regardless of distro, the kernel driver I mentioned doesn't request a firmware file that I can see
[18:10] <erasmus> TJ- Some distributions already bundle the firmware in the official repositories. Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) includes it by default
[18:10] <OerHeks_> Tathagat2006, good start for reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev
[18:10] <erasmus> so if it's there and I see it why doesn't it show up as a device?
[18:11] <erasmus> I use Kaffeine. And it's not listed as device.
[18:11] <Tathagat2006> OerHeks_, Thank You!!
[18:11] <Tathagat2006> i am a second year student
[18:12] <Tathagat2006> can you tell me which books to follow
[18:12] <Tathagat2006> like i have only read galvin for operating systems and started robert love's linux kernel development..
[18:13] <elichai2> Hey, I restart my laptop and now when it start I get a weird error and then a readonly shell
[18:13] <elichai2> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1RMPJiOS/Ubuntu_error+.jpg
[18:14] <elichai2> Sorry I'm sending the error as a picture I'm just doing it from my phone because I don't have another pc
[18:14] <TJ-> erasmus: OK, I see the firmware now it's included in linux-firmware under /lib/firmware/. It's loaded by the xc5000 driver. is that loaded? "lsmod | grep xc5000" if not "sudo modprobe xc5000"
[18:14] <TJ-> !kernel | Tathagat2006 and listen in on the channel #ubuntu-kernel
[18:15] <erasmus> TJ- I did the command and it just went to the next line after enter.
[18:15] <erasmus> no error.
[18:15] <TJ-> erasmus: so it worked
[18:16] <erasmus> TJ- will I need to do that after reboots?
[18:16] <TJ-> erasmus: check "dmesg" again
[18:17] <kostkon> Tathagat2006, you've read some kernel books. you are off a good start already then. just go through the info that TJ- has given you and go from there
[18:17] <TJ-> erasmus: it shold be automatically loaded, your link says "After an application open the device the first time, the module will load the firmware."
[18:18] <Tathagat2006> TJ: Thank you,
[18:18] <Tathagat2006> kostkon: Thanks
[18:18] <erasmus> TJ- termbin.com/lm4v
[18:19] <erasmus> TJ- still lacking SOURCE for device in Kaffeine.
[18:20] <erasmus> like it's not creating the device
[18:20] <TJ-> erasmus: no idea; could be a broken device, but as it's not Ubuntu there may be some strange config that is breaking things
[18:21] <erasmus> I can also use the adapter with my MBP in macos.
[18:25] <Trent> For some reason my laptop is saying bootable device not found....
[18:26] <elichai2> Here I wrote down the error: https://pastebin.com/vUy61F5r (the ... is because there's a lot of zero's and the [xxx] is because the timestamp is irrelevant)
[18:26] <elichai2> Please I can't figure out why my laptop don't start (tried updating, dpkg --configure)
[18:28] <TJ-> elichai2: MCE is a major hardware fault, like bad RAM or something else
[18:28] <elichai2> So I need to run a RAM test? what else to run? (ram test is still in the live grub?)
[18:29] <TJ-> elichai2: that'd be a good start. I think memtest86+ is installed if it's not an EFI system (it doesn't work on EFI)
[18:30] <elichai2> it is EFI :\,  i'll download a memtest86+ iso and put on a usb
[18:32] <TJ-> elichai2: might be the laptop's fan radiator just needs a clean, could be overheating
[18:36] <elichai2> is there a way to check it or I should just open it up and clean?
[18:37] <TJ-> elichai2: peer into it :D I used an air compressor to blow out fans and fins occasionally
[18:38] <TJ-> elichai2: it could be something silly like a plug-in RAM module have gotten slightly mobed by vibration and just needs reseating. Some laptops have access doors in them to get to these things
[18:38] <Trent> So I installed Lubuntu, restarted my laptop. Now it says invalid boot device?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> Trent: is your system uefi?
[18:40] <Trent> lotuspsychje, Yes
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> Trent: singleboot ubuntu or dualboot?
[18:40] <Trent> Single
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> Trent: have you installed with fastboot & secureboot disabled?
[18:40] <Trent> I installed with secureboot enabled
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> Trent: both must be disabled
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> Trent: check also your boot order list in bios
[18:42] <Trent> Boot Order is fine, i'll reinstall with Secure Boot Disabled
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> Trent: ok good luck
[18:43] <elichai2> TJ-: tried restarting multiple times. i;m now backing up a usb to flash it with memtest
[18:45] <Trent> Yas queen
[18:45] <lizaw> join/ 3apo
[18:47] <ducasse> Trent: installing with secure boot enabled should not be a problem, you didn't get any errors during installation?
[18:47] <Trent> ducasse, No errors.
[18:47] <Trent> Went into desktop fine, I restarted machine... No longer would start.
[18:48] <Trent> 100% installed on the Systems HDD, not the USB.
[18:48] <ducasse> Trent: the do as lotus suggests and check boot order in the firmware
[18:48] <ioria> Trent, using manual or automatic partitioning scheme ?
[18:49] <Trent> auto
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> Trent: mechanical hd or new ssd?
[18:50] <Trent> And I already checked boot order. Only thing in my laptop is a USB and a HDD. Nothing else.
[18:50] <ioria> Trent, you have 2 disks ? one iternal and one external ?
[18:50] <ioria> *internal
[18:50] <Trent> No
[18:50] <Trent> 1 disk
[18:51] <ioria> Trent, what about the 'usb', then ?
[18:51] <Trent> That would be what i'm installing Lubuntu from.
[18:52] <ioria> Trent, ok
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> Trent: some bios, have double settings for boot order (sata) doubleck?
[18:53] <Trent> I installed with Secure Boot. Off
[18:53] <Trent> Same issue, no boot device found.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[18:53] <ioria> Trent,  boot from live and paste sudo parted -l
[18:54] <Trent> It's some bios setting, as when going into boot menu it doesn't detect an HDD
 Boot Order is fine,
[19:00] <Trent> Well this is funny, if I set my bios to legacy mode. I'm unable to boot into the USB, or the HDD. It's saying "No bootable device found"
[19:01] <ioria> Trent, boot in efi mode
[19:01] <ioria> Trent, the installer,  i mean
[19:02] <Trent> If I boot through UEFI, it doesn't show me my HDD into the Boot Menu Option, only my USB.
[19:02] <ioria> ok, boot it
[19:03] <Trent> I did
[19:03] <Trent> It doesn't work
[19:03] <Trent> No boot device found
[19:04] <ioria> Trent,  check the SB settings
[19:05] <elichai2> TJ-: btw, the CPU temp on the memtest is arround 55
[19:06] <Trent> SB Settings?
[19:07] <ioria> Trent,  secure boot and what kind of laptop is that ?
[19:07] <Trent> Acer Aspire One (netbook)
[19:07] <ioria> that wants a 32 bit efi ?
[19:08] <kostkon> elichai2, which atom does it have
[19:08] <ioria> noope
[19:09] <Trent> Should be 64bit, it's a Intel Atom CPU
[19:09] <Trent> Sorry, Celeron N3050
[19:11] <inquam> Hi... I have a "strange" issue that popped up recently. I have static networking setup and the dns-nameservers point to my windows domain controller. This domain controller was running as a VM that was handled by Cloudmin on this very Ubuntu machine. This worked fine. But due to some issues with Cloudmine I moved it to use Kimchi instead and handle it using libvirt directly. The VM started up fine after that (still running on the sa
[19:11] <inquam> But all of a sudden Ubuntu failed to boot. It gets stuck at bringing the network up. It seems to be due to the name server poiting to the DC
[19:11] <inquam> It's probably not up yet. If I change to 8.8.8.8 it boots fine
[19:12] <inquam> So I'm trying to figure out how to solve this little predicament
[19:13] <inquam> SHould this even be an issue? SHoudn't the ubuntu server just have a bit of issues doing DNS lookups until the VM comes online? Why get stuck there during bootup and retry over and over until I reboot the system.
[19:14] <inquam> STrange thing is that this worked before when I was using Cloudmin. Perhaps the VM came up earlier, but seems unlikley it would have come up before networking was started. So I should have had this issue back then to it feels like.
[19:15] <Trent> I don't understand, I got this thing to install Ubuntu about a year ago... Now I can't figure it out.
[19:17] <akik> Trent: when i boot in uefi mode on my acer laptop, i need to go to the bios/uefi screens and add grubx64.efi as an allowed boot file
[19:17] <ioria> Trent, do you have a 'Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing' under Security ?
[19:17] <akik> or shimx64.efi
[19:17] <ioria> yeah
[19:18] <Trent> ioria, Yes I do have that option. I'm following some instructions I found online for installing it, so we will see.
[19:18] <ahtd> I've been trying to setup two network interfaces on my Ubuntu: one for internal use and the other to access the internet. But after I configure the static IP address for internal use, I can't access the internet anymore.
[19:19] <ioria> Trent, so select shimx64.efi if SB enabled, or grubx64.efi if not
[19:19] <Trent> ioria, I didn't have to do that last time I installed Ubuntu. But i'll try it.
[19:20] <inquam> ahdt: Not sure, but don't you have to create routes to make sure traffic flows on the correct interface after something like that?
[19:20] <elichai2> kostkon: Intel i7 4770MQ
[19:20] <elichai2> *4700MQ
[19:22] <ahtd> inquam: I'll read about this. Thanks
[19:24] <inquam> ahtd: Someone with a kinda similar question... https://askubuntu.com/questions/293249/two-nics-one-for-internet-the-other-for-lan
[19:25] <openGLdude> Is it possible to have a static ip with which i can access my sysetem via ssh without having a domain name given by the ISP?
[19:26] <Trent> ioria, Hot dang it worked :)
[19:26] <Taz-> openGLdude, sure, that's called a NDS
[19:26] <Taz-> DNS
[19:26] <ioria> Trent, good boy
[19:26] <Taz-> such as freedns
[19:27] <khaled> ircd
[19:34] <A4Tech> Hi, I have a Ubuntu Server 16.04 machine all up to date with the AMDGPU 17.40 drivers installed, with a singular card installed I can boot into the CLI fine. But when I add a secound it will post the BIOS splash and grub screen but after go black but has a signal. If i put either card in it boots fine, but with both it doesn't. Any help? Thanks
[19:36] <loadedanvils> hey all, I'm using ubuntu 16.04 LTS and I'm trying to configure two of my laptops, one connected directly to the other through ethernet usb dongle and the other connected to internet
[19:37] <loadedanvils> are there any resources related to kernel IP routing or network interfaces?
[19:37] <spase> \n
[19:39] <ioria> loadedanvils, and you want to share the connection ?
[19:40] <spase> Hey, is there anybody here?
[19:40] <A4Tech> no
[19:40] <loadedanvils> yeah
[19:40] <spase> ok :D
[19:40] <loadedanvils> ioria, specifically, I want to be able to ssh
[19:41] <loadedanvils> I can sometimes set routes that allow me to temporarily connect
[19:41] <loadedanvils> but they're gone after a few minutes
[19:41] <A4Tech> do a  hack and write a script to set the routes every few min
[19:41] <loadedanvils> I'm planning to try it again today but I need some resources for the network interfaced / IP routing
[19:42] <loadedanvils> can't, I need them to be persistent
[19:42] <loadedanvils> when I reboot and set them in /etc/network/interfaces I stop being able to ssh when the Ethernet dongle is connected to the host computet
[19:43] <loadedanvils> I'm gonna try it again today with my own computers (I was using work laptops before) so I'm looking for books / documentation / resources about it
[19:54] <energizer> How do I `rsync -a dirA remote:dirA` completely overwriting remote:dirA ?
[19:56] <akik> energizer: maybe "--delete --delete-before"
[19:59] <OerHeks> rsync -I, --ignore-times   don't skip files that match size and time
[20:04] <CoJaBo> I've unearthed an entirely new RAID configuration today
[20:05] <energizer> ok thanks
[20:07] <elichai2> I'll ask again since TJ- is gone
[20:08] <elichai2> I restarted my laptop and now it doesn't load, I get this error: https://pastebin.com/vUy61F5r (ignore timestamp, and 000... is a lot of zeros lol), memtest passed with no errors, tried cleaning the fan
[20:08] <elichai2> any ideas?
[20:10] <ioria> elichai2, can you check in Bios -> Power Management what options do you have set ?
[20:11] <canaima> hola
[20:11] <elichai2> ioria: I don't see a power management option in my bios
[20:12] <ioria> elichai2, there should be
[20:12] <ioria> elichai2,  or something similar
[20:12] <elichai2> I have power beep option. That's the only one with power in the name
[20:13] <elichai2> It's mostly boot stuff
[20:13] <OerHeks> maybe overclocking settings in the bios, hard to say what those cpu errors mean
[20:14] <elichai2> OerHeks: how can i check what the errors mean?
[20:15] <ioria> elichai2,  what cpu do you have ?
[20:16] <elichai2> That's how my bios look https://youtu.be/qZkvE5Gh3L0
[20:16] <elichai2> I have i7 4700MQ
[20:16] <OerHeks> dunno, use google or bing with the errorline or partial
[20:17] <OerHeks> + your machine specs
[20:17] <elichai2> Already tried Googling it that's why I'm here
[20:19] <HardcoreKrypton> what happened
[20:19] <HardcoreKrypton> ?
[20:21] <ioria> elichai2,  and in secure boot options ?
[20:22] <elichai2> Secure boot is disabled, but it is uefi
[20:23] <ioria> elichai2,  Secure Boot -> Secure Boot Mode -> Standard   ?
[20:23] <elichai2> I just tried running kubuntu from usb and test dmesg: https://pastebin.com/uGbw3zgv
[20:23] <elichai2> ioria: i'll check right now
[20:25] <elichai2> ioria: rechecked and I just don't have a secure boot option
[20:26] <ioria> elichai2,  it does stop booting ? right ?
[20:26] <ioria> elichai2,  or what ?
[20:27] <elichai2> I get into rescue shell
[20:29] <ioria> elichai2,  have you tried to boot in legacy mode ?
[20:29] <spase> clear
[20:32] <tomreyn> i think what elichai2 is saying is that ubuntu used to startup fine and, without hardware, bios or linux configuration changes, it no longer does. is this what you are saying, elichai2 ?
[20:32] <elichai2> yes. and when I boot from usb I see the errors but it boots fine
[20:33] <tomreyn> so i guess te initial message you presented is correct and you indeed have faulty hardware.
[20:34] <tomreyn> try a memory check using memtest86+, if you're 'lucky' its 'just' a bad DIMM.
[20:34] <malkauns> any fix for the gnome-shell memory leak??
[20:34] <elichai2> already ran memtest86+ passed without errors
[20:34] <asarch> Using the new configuration scheme (DBus or GConf), how could I disable a monitor permanently (I mean, reboot after reboot)?
[20:35] <asarch> I mean, system-wide?
[20:35] <ioria> elichai2, i lost you . when you see those  errors  ?
[20:36] <elichai2> If I boot normally I see them and I get rescue shell. If I boot from usb I see them for a split second but it boots fine
[20:37] <ioria> elichai2, so your main installed system not booting ?
[20:37] <elichai2> only to rescue shell
[20:37] <ioria> elichai2,  have you tried to boot in legacy mode ?
[20:38] <elichai2> not yet, thought to try and stress test the cpu, but i'll try legacy
[20:38] <OerHeks> i read a lot about mem leaks, i do not experience such leak myself malkauns https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1672297 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1731071
[20:39] <OerHeks> some write it is mouse movements, others name wifi packages make it grow
[20:43] <spase> names
[20:44] <tomreyn> spase: do you need any help?
[20:45] <tomreyn> looks like a bot.
[20:45] <spase> names
[20:46] <tomreyn> spase: do you have an ubuntu support request?
[20:46] <elichai2> ioria: just tried legacy exact same errors
[20:47] <elichai2> Just without the uefi db
[20:47] <ioria> i see
[20:48] <elichai2> Any other ideas to check? I can't seem to find the faulty hardware but I do get the error even in the USB boot
[20:49] <elichai2> Btw I was a little wrong, regular boot doesn't give me rescue shell, it gives me tty1 with read only permissions (that I can then remount to rw)
[20:49] <tomreyn> ask in ##hardware, this is not an ubuntu issue.
[20:50] <ioria> elichai2, run fsck
[20:50] <elichai2> Tried already through Ubuntu's recovery
[20:51] <elichai2> Is there a ppa to install most latest kernel? Maybe I should try that
[20:51] <ioria> elichai2, it gives you vc  in ro mode ?
[20:51] <OerHeks> run a prime test to check your cpu.. https://fossbytes.com/best-computer-diagnostic-tools-for-windows-and-ubuntu/
[20:52] <OerHeks> else let your vendor check the hardware?
[20:52] <ioria> elichai2, never heard a tty in ro
[20:59] <raidghost> How can i disable pci-E cards from been used with vt-d in linux kernel?
[21:01] <y_morin> Hello! On Ubuntu 17.10, something is constantly removing files from /tmp, every ~30 min.
[21:01] <y_morin> What is responsible for that, and how can I prevnt it from happening?
[21:01] <elichai2> i'm having a problem installing 4.15
[21:01] <elichai2> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jWYS5Kphr6/
[21:04] <OerHeks> elichai2, carefull with the order of the deb files.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Installing_upstream_kernels_.28manually.29
[21:04] <OerHeks> don't just dpkg -i * ..
[21:09] <texla> How to start numlockx before login on Ubuntu 16.04
[21:18] <OerHeks> texla, here a howto to call numlockx in the greeter, https://askubuntu.com/questions/776961/enabling-numlock  or --- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[21:20] <A4Tech> Hey, I have a two PCI mobo and when I put the GPU in the 2nd bus it will show the BIOS splash and GRUB menu but after just go black but have a connection, if I put it in the 1st pci slot it will work normally. Is my 2nd pci connector broken?
[21:20] <fireball> Hello
[21:21] <fireball> I'm on Ubuntu Mate for Raspberry Pi3 (Model B)
[21:21] <Deknos> does anyone know the bug clicking on websites in firefox with right mouse click that the context menu pops up shifted and the mouse pointer moves even if you are not IN the context menu?
[21:22] <fireball> I've installed the last version available this morning
[21:23] <fireball> Then I've installed updates and since that time Firefox crash when launching
[21:23] <fireball> Before installing updates everything worked fine
[21:23] <fireball> Do you have an idea ?
[21:24] <fireball> I tried to uinstall and resinstall it but doesn't change anything
[21:24] <fireball> Seems there is a problem with the last update of firefox on Raspberry Pi 3
[21:25] <fireball> Sorry Deknos, I don't know
[21:25] <nsgn> Hello. I'm trying to get Ubuntu set up on my Macbook12. It requires an out of tree kernel module for the keyboard/mouse. I know such works on this hardware because under Fedora this module loads just fine.
[21:26] <nsgn> On Ubuntu I'm given the error "applespi: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing"
[21:26] <causative> why is the atime of all my files in the past few days, even for files I know I haven't accessed manually in a long time?  is this because I am using whole disk encryption?
[21:26] <nsgn> I figured oh..I must be running secure boot therefore module signing is required. But nope. mokutil says "this system doesn't support secure boot"
[21:26] <DiecastMessiah> hailz all.. doing an update and a new window is up with Configuring Grub-pc .. so i say install the package maintainters version or keep local version
[21:29] <DiecastMessiah> its also says the version installed currectly was locally modified in you hit the help buttom beside it
[21:29] <aelx> I want to set up a vm with two network interfaces, but after I edited the /etc/network/interfaces/ the internet stopped working
[22:17] <sysfault> i need assistance enabling my synaptics touchpad
[22:20] <flood_> is this thing on?
[22:27] <Mathisen> sysfault, what is not working exactly
[22:27] <sysfault> the touchpad itself isnt responding to a click Mathisen
[22:28] <Mathisen> and this is what ubuntu version and what laptop model ?
[22:30] <sysfault> Mathisen: im on a dell inspiron n5010, running ubuntu 17.10
[22:30] <Mathisen> sysfault, you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed ?
[22:31] <sysfault> Mathisen: yes
[22:31] <sysfault> latest version
[22:36] <Mathisen> sysfault, hmm try with xserver-xorg-input-libinput
[22:37] <Mathisen> need to reboot after that
[22:37] <sysfault> do i download that?
[22:37] <sysfault> thats installed as well
[22:37] <Mathisen> re-install it
[22:38] <OerHeks> 17.10 .. in wayland or Xorg session ?
[22:38] <sysfault> how can i tell which one im in?
[22:38] <demu> OerHeks: wayland (default) Xorg is installed
[22:39] <y_morin> sysfault: echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY
[22:39] <OerHeks> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[22:39] <sysfault> that returns xfce the latter one
[22:39] <sysfault> and  the former returns nothing
[22:40] <y_morin> Xorg then
[22:47] <Corvid> hello all
[22:47] <Corvid> 49 mwm closet bi top
[22:48] <DiecastMessiah> Hails all , I am having a problem with video drivers i guess .. on ubuntu 16.04 ..back story is I have a optimus laptop ,, i tried bumblebee and that worked for some things ... but it was using Mesa even tho its nvidia 310m chip .. so i remove that and reinstalled nvidia drivers along with nvidia prime.. now that seem to have gotten the drivers right and other things working also .. but still having some problems with opengl dffierent games work.. but
[22:48] <DiecastMessiah> ones that need opengl 2.1 don;t seems to work. i also tried GFXBench and getting this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jMzcrSqHFW/
[22:52] <CecilinFlux> hello\
[22:52] <CecilinFlux> I was wondering if someone in here would mind helping an Ubuntu noob
[22:54] <DiecastMessiah> !ask
[22:54] <DiecastMessiah> !dstails
[22:54] <CecilinFlux> the last windows 10 upgrade screwed up my computer, so I clean installed ubuntu, which is working peachy keen, but I had a second hard drive on windows that I was using as a backup thing, but now  can't access it on Ubuntu
[22:54] <DiecastMessiah> !details
[22:54] <CecilinFlux> I'd rather not format it as it contains all my projects from the last few years
[22:55] <CecilinFlux> so mostly I'm having issues knowing what exactly to google to help me find the correct way to access the files
[22:57] <Mathisen> CecilinFlux, in what way cant you reach the files ? have you tried mounting the partition ?
[22:58] <OerHeks> CecilinFlux, if that extra hdd is exfat, you just need 2 tools
[22:58] <Mathisen> ntfs-3g comes to mind if hibernation problems
[22:58] <CecilinFlux> I've been trying to mount, but the fdisk doesn't even see it. I can get gpart to see it, but with a ton of errors, and it won't let me mount
[22:58] <Mathisen> what error do you get on mount ?
[22:59] <CecilinFlux> I'd like to just be able to access the files so I can back them up, and then I'll reformat the disk
[22:59] <CecilinFlux> hang on
[22:59] <CecilinFlux> I use gpart to "scan devices"
[22:59] <CecilinFlux> and it pops up with a bnunch of errors, the most common being
[23:00] <CecilinFlux> "error fsyncing/closing dev/sdb1 input/output error"
[23:00] <Mathisen> well that can be bad news sadly
[23:00] <CecilinFlux> well fuck
[23:00] <CecilinFlux> I'd really rather not lose all my projects
[23:01] <Mathisen> there is a nice tool named ddrescue that you should look upp
[23:01] <CecilinFlux> I'll look that up
[23:01] <Mathisen> read the documentation for it and clone the bad hd to a "safe" place the safe place would be a diffrent hd
[23:01] <Mathisen> then after that you can start to recover info
[23:02] <CecilinFlux> I'll see if I can do that
[23:03] <CecilinFlux> are there any other options, as well, while I'm copying that over?
[23:03] <Mathisen> well yes but the most safe way to recover is to copy over the content to a healty drive first
[23:04] <CecilinFlux> my main issue with that is that the disk that's having the issue is the largest disk I have
[23:04] <y_morin> Hello! On Ubuntu 17.10, something is constantly removing files from /tmp, every 60 min.
[23:04] <CecilinFlux> a terabyte, and the second largest I have is only a 250 GB
[23:05] <Mathisen> CecilinFlux, ok. there is tesdisk that you can run on it. usage = testdisk /dev/WINDISK
[23:06] <Mathisen> CecilinFlux, keep in mind you been warned using the drive more "if" it is bad i/o error usaly idicates that is not good
[23:06] <CecilinFlux> that's good to know, thank you
[23:06] <CecilinFlux> I appreciate everyone helping me
[23:07] <CecilinFlux> WINDISK being replaced with the name of the drive, correct?
[23:08] <Mathisen> correct
[23:08] <CecilinFlux> perfect
[23:08] <CecilinFlux> thank you
[23:09] <CecilinFlux> that's worked, now I can at least copy over my most important projects
[23:09] <CecilinFlux> thank you so much
[23:10] <CecilinFlux> I'm okay with getting a new drive once I've gotten the info off of this one
[23:13] <DiecastMessiah> about my problem to here is all gfxinfo tells me https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3FpWMSsjcQ/
[23:15] <CecilinFlux> oh thank god
[23:15] <CecilinFlux> thank you all so much
[23:15] <CecilinFlux> I have honestly no idea what I'm doing and was worried I was going to lose all my files
[23:17] <Bashing-om> DiecastMessiah: reading. while doing so, what driver is installed ? : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/130042/en-us
[23:17] <Bashing-om> DiecastMessiah: Correct driver is installed " string: 3.30 NVIDIA" .
[23:17] <DiecastMessiah> Bashing-om: 340.104
[23:19] <DiecastMessiah> should i put on Using Process microcode firmware for intel CPUs ??? In the additional drivers program
[23:20] <DiecastMessiah> it set to do not use this device
[23:22] <Bashing-om> DiecastMessiah: I would, as the microcode is OEM updates .
[23:23] <DiecastMessiah> kk will try that.
[23:25] <Bashing-om> DiecastMessiah: does the gpu-manager report any issues ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?
[23:25] <DiecastMessiah> k done.. do i need to reboot.. it didn;t say
[23:27] <superguest> I have multi-monitor setup in Ubuntu 16.04: Dell 30" monitor as primary in landscape, and two Dell 20" in portrait, one on each side of the primary.
[23:27] <Bashing-om> DiecastMessiah: I would think a reboot is in order .
[23:27] <DiecastMessiah> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T4G4gvVyCh/
[23:27] <superguest> the problem is that everytime I log out/restart, the wallpaper scales to the resolution/dimension of the auxilliary monitor.
[23:28] <superguest> https://ptpb.pw/l7x6.png
[23:30] <superguest> which requires me to readjust in Appearance > Background everytime.
[23:31] <xanrevent> Hello all. I'm looking for somebody that might be able walk me through trying a few things (that may or may not be possible?).
[23:32] <DiecastMessiah> Bashing-om: I going to reboot because of turning on that cpu thing brb
[23:35] <superguest> I think Ubuntu has long abandoned the use of /etc/X11/xorg.conf as its default.  Does anyone know which system uses/maintains ~/.config/monitors.xml ?
[23:35] <DiecastMessiah> Bashing-om: k back
[23:36] <xanrevent> Specifically, I have a program that runs as a Bulletin Board Server (bbs) through SSH, and I want to have multiple iterations of the program running and allow multiple users to log in to each one via ssh
[23:36] <xanrevent> All from ubuntu server, command line only
[23:36] <Bashing-om> superguest: The use of the file is generally depreciated, however, if you make it up it will be honored .
[23:38] <DiecastMessiah> tried gfxbench again .. closes when i try to run the text ..like before .
[23:38] <superguest> Bashing-om, can you recommend a solution to my problem with the wallpaper rescaling to the resolution of my auxilllary montior (1200 x 1600) on restart?
[23:39] <Bashing-om> DiecastMessiah: And .. I am stumped why your system looks for /usr/share/gpu-manager.d/ - as on my system: " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -al /usr/share/gpu-manager.d/ >> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/gpu-manager.d/': No such file or directory" .
[23:40] <Mathisen> xanrevent, dont your bbs server has features for this
[23:41] <Bashing-om> superguest: Sorry, no experience here with multi monitors .
[23:43] <DiecastMessiah> Bashing-om: ok thanks... seems that optimus is no fun it work with.. had this working years ago.. but that was bumblebee and using the optirun commands. but I guess i'll just not game .. getting sick of trying
[23:45] <xanrevent> I've tried finding instructions for running multiple servers from one device, and I know this program has a daemon version, but I really don't know where to learn more about daemons or what would be needed to run multiple.
[23:49] <akik> xanrevent: if you have it already running, what happens if you make simultaneous ssh connections to it?
[23:50] <xanrevent> @akik as the same ssh user or as multiple different ssh users?
[23:50] <akik> xanrevent: either case
[23:52] <akik> xanrevent: so you've tested it with multiple logins, but something doesn't work?
[23:53] <xanrevent> akik: What I want to do is have a second iteration of the same program (as it's a bbs, this would mean a separate bbs entirely) running concurrently and listening to a separate port
[23:54] <akik> xanrevent: do you have the bbs application as the login shell?
[23:54] <xanrevent> akik: if I understand you correctly, yes.
[23:54] <akik> xanrevent: you can check it from /etc/passwd for each user
[23:55] <xanrevent> akik: I think I can get each iteration to accept connections on separate ports, what I'm having trouble with is when I execute the program " ./mystic -server "
[23:56] <xanrevent> akik: it is then running the shell and is where commands are input for the server itself
[23:56] <akik> xanrevent: if the bbs application is as a login shell, and each user logs in with their own username with ssh, they're kept separate from each other
[23:57] <xanrevent> akik: and what I'd like to do is run a second iteration of the program entirely
[23:58] <nsgn> Good evening. My ubuntu boot hangs for about 15 seconds on running /scripts/local-premount . Never seen anything like this. Any thoughts?
[23:58] <nsgn> It proceeds after that to run fine but that sure adds a chunk to the boot time.
[23:59] <xanrevent> akik: if I'm running the first iteration, I can't access the command prompt to navigate to the second folder and start the second server