 lol
[00:05] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> @wayneoutthere, Lol, you and me both
 Hi five to hot air
[00:31] <ubptgbot> Squish :3 was added by: Squish :3
[00:31] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Hello!
[00:31] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I need some help if anyone is around!
 Welcome Squish :3
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Thank you @matv1 !
 go ahead and ask
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Ah
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> So im using the BQ Aquaris E4.5
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> And i installed the Official Ubuntu Touch for it.
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I installed OpenStore through terminal etc etc
[00:32] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> It sometimes auto soft reboots. Can anyone explain/help solve?
 most of us see that from time to time. How often is that in your case? if it is daily thats not right
 it is most commonly Unity restarting
[00:35] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Happens sometimes. Especially when im trying to do too much too fast.
[00:35] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I really want to use this as a daily driver.
 ah yes that fits with what other ppl are seeing. it runs out of memory. theoreticcaly iUT should limit the running apps if that happens but never Unity. But I am afraid it does
[00:37] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Aaaaah alright that makes sense. So are there any solutions?
 well, there might be improvement on that once we move to 16.04
 but I am not sure about that
 There is indeed alot of stability updates with 16.04
[00:38] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I tried installing the UBports version on windows10 but the program does never recognize my device
[00:38] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Even with developer mode on
[00:38] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> And the device on fastboot mode
[00:39] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Krillin doesnt have a static bootloader mode per se
[00:39] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Its just another menu with wipe options.
 @Squish :3, sorry I do not use Windows
 We do have some problems on Windows due to drivers, i would recomend trying to install with an ubuntu virtual box. We are trying our best to fix the issues on windows
[00:40] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Well i used it because of games xD
 @jamesbateaux, You lack confidence. Be like doogie howser
[00:40] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Ahhhh alright. Yes linux based os' have no issues with drivers....
 Windows and usb is really hard..
[00:41] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip Yeah i know. A virtual drive it is. What does the UBPorts version have over the Canonical official version for the E 4.5?
 @Squish :3, Quite alot of updated and bug fixes. too many to count :)
[00:42] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip Anywhere i can read that changelog?
[00:43] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Btw i love Ubuntu Touch xD Its beautiful
 @Squish :3, It's not dead. :)
[00:43] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee Fair point 😆
[00:44] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I'm kinda tired of android after 5 years of modding it.
[00:44] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Can't be arsed to get an iOS device because i need privacy and battery life.
[00:45] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> And Windows Phone is just as abandoned as Canonical's UT.
 @Squish :3, https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones?state=closed this is the best we have, we also have blog post about the updates https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-3-76 https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-2-release-74
 apparently Apple is now storing iCloud stuff in China and has given the gov't over their access...
 so even more reason to seek other solutions
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip Thank you! So i should just set up an Ubuntu Virual Box and use UBInstaller though that?
 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insight/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-keys-in-china-raising-human-rights-fears-idUSKCN1G8060
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @kz6fittycent True also. But i tried the system and fell in love with it.
 @Squish :3, yeah that should work
 @Squish :3, iOS or UTouch?
[00:47] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip Will try! FIngers crossed.
[00:47] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @kz6fittycent UTouch.
 gotcha
[00:47] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @kz6fittycent Had an iOS once. FIrst thing i did was jailbreak it.
 I am issued one from work; don't like it
[00:47] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @kz6fittycent By midday had 50% battery left.
 ha
[00:48] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @kz6fittycent No thank you. I need my music all day.
[00:49] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> ah i have another question @mariogrip ! Sorry i'm bothering
 @Squish :3, sure go ahead
[00:50] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip So from Android to UTouch i noticed that the volume of multimedia is really low even on max with headphones on. I tried UVol but that doesnt help a whole lot. Anything i can do to fix this?
[00:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip Im not looking for a way to go deaf but i do enjoy blasting some bass though my headphones from time to time.
 @Squish :3, it depends on the devices, some device cannot deliver as much *power* as others. but i guess my question is was this the same device you had android on as ut on?
[00:52] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip Yes. Hence my question.
 @Squish :3, well, i just want to correct that Canonical's UT was never abandoned - BY US.  It was abanoned by Canonical but the dream lives on and, in my opinion, it's now much better and quickly going to 'super awesome'
 @Squish :3, good answer ;)
 @Squish :3, humm, then im not sure, i will take a look at and see what i find
[00:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere Im aware yes. You guys are doing an amazing job. The system is amazing. I love it and i intend to learn as much as i can. OCD is killing me because i can't remove the Ubuntu Store app.
[00:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @mariogrip Thank you so much!
[00:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I'm just so tired of android. I like it. But i'm tired of seeing the same old same old.
[00:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Besides, having the security and multitude of options of Ubuntu in the palm of my hand is brilliant.
 you are speaking music now
 now that unity8 is rolling... boom.  convergence is on the table
 and anbox ...
 2018 is set to be a year to remember
 definitely won't be same ol' same ol' around here
[00:56] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere Yes! I mean the only reason i'd want anbox is for messenger. or discord. or whatsapp. The rest of the things i use is in UTouch already.
[00:57] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere I like my reddit and instagram. the rest is a lot of music,youtube and some casual gaming. Pokemon on a GBA emulator does the job brilliantly.
[00:58] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere I tell this to so many people. The day i can play games on Linux like i do on Windows is the day i ditch Windows.
 same.  i may never use anbox but it's a good 'bridge' to bring the lost people in
[00:58] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere True but imho UTouch isn't complicated at all.
 @Squish :3, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend you ditch games with windows ;)
 then your problem is solved
[01:00] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere Hahahah sadly i need my Fallout3 amongst other things that sadly aren't available yet on Linux based systems.
[01:00] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere Absolutely! Who doesn't like pokemon
 @Squish :3, can't you run windows as a VM inside your ubuntu machine?
[01:03] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere I can but on a low end laptop is seriously hinders the experience.
 Huh
 i only like pacman and tetris so yeah..
 I play games on Linux just fine
 I play super tux amazingly
 that's what I thought... maybe over to OT group?   … https://t.me/ubports_ot
 ha
 Discord should work fine too
[02:06] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> I'll be using anbox for a couple apps that I might need, otherwise its just a cool feature to have for those that -need- android
[02:16] <ubptgbot> <Igor Dikiy> Hello all, I am trying to port Ubuntu Touch onto an old BN Nook "tablet". Wish me luck!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/MVeKKiM2.mp4
[02:30] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> https://devices.ubports.com/#/krillin If i run this on an Ubuntu VMWare will it work to install UBTouch on the E4.5?
 Igor, I will be most interested in your progress.  I have one of those, as well as one of the older Nook Color models.
 Anyone know the Arch Linux Telegram channel?
 @AmolithSeregion, Do you need to flash UT in arch linux?
 @Yance, No I just need help with thumbnails. I have none for mp4 files
 @AmolithSeregion, Oh. I don't know telegram group for arch linux in english. Just in bahasa. What de and file manager do you use?
 @Yance, OpenBox and Nemo
 Have you installed ffmpegthumbs?
[03:50] <ubptgbot> Nicolascuevas was added by: Nicolascuevas
 @Yance, Yes and I removed the entire thumbnail folder
 Hi from Ubuntu Touch
 @tsimonq2, Ohi
[06:23] <ubptgbot> ferds666 was added by: ferds666
 Good Day People
 I was wondering if the app Wire Secure Messenger works on Ubuntu Touch?
 I know they have a deb package available, not sure if it translates to the mobile platform
[07:16] <ubptgbot> Andreu was added by: Andreu
 @Squish :3, If you are still on the Canonical version it seriously is time to switch 😊
 @Stereofont, Thanks Lionelb, I haven't see your welcome message until now, I'm a little bit clueless
 Does anyone know how to do an IRC bridge via Telegram? I'd like persistance with my messages in one IRC group.
 @ferds666, The .deb probably won't work, and mobile apps aren't installed via debs. The web interface should work in the browser though, I think.
 @ferds666, There is a Signal appeared. In for pitstop repairs atm
 App
 @D4nk0l3vis, No problem. Watch and ask questions
 I mean I know people IRC bridge into this supergroup, so is the reverse possible?
 Guessing it would have to be two way rather than just export ? That could be tricky? Also privacy precedents etc?
 Otherwise though, is there any solution for permanence? Because I've used the IRC website before and it's like, you need to leave the browser and therefore computer active, which is a strain on power/computing resources in general and I sense that maybe the people on this group are in North American time or something so might
[09:43] <ubptgbot> have to wait for hours...
 You can forward to saved message folder. Send to self
 Elaborate sorry? What hardware are you thinking- desktop, or UT phablet?
 Ah I understood the wrong way round. Permanence of irc
 @Stereofont, Signal and Wire are different things
 Yessir.
 Yes, different but Signal could serve a similar purpose?
 @TartanSpartan, i know some people have used irccloud, there are other similar solutions available, some you can host yourself as well
 Host myself, what do you mean exactly?
 @Stereofont, If your employer has a contract with Wire, I doubt Signal will help there
 @TartanSpartan, i mean run a server with bouncer or whatever that's permanently connected to irc
 Right well I don't have a NAS yet or anything. Will go for a simple, low cost solution i.e. irccloud.
 @TartanSpartan, miracast, slimport, micro HDMI supports audio out, I've tried them in Android and they work fine. I believe it's a known bug in Canonical but not site if it's been acknowledged in UBports
 Yeah I think there was a bit of miscommunication on that front between myself and @UniversalSuperBox last night because I thought he knew the answers to the questions I had but was being cagey, or otherwise rhetorical, but I think in hindsight he was genuinely asking me some questions. But sorry to the main man if that was the
[10:20] <ubptgbot>  case, that's what happens with IM internet communication from time to time.
 I don't think aethercast provides a pulseaudio module, so likely doesn't route the audio. Try `pacmd info | grep "name:"` to see what outputs pulseaudio knows of
 Audio routing on phones is apparently very difficult. Android doesn't seem to even have a way to route audio how I want to route it
 Perhaps in future UBPorts devs could try to make routing easier and more along the lines of how it works for PCs? Unless the hardware/Android legacy parts of the system put a hard limit on that.
 I would say PCs do it wrong too
[10:34] <ubptgbot> Rakesh PK was added by: Rakesh PK
 But objectively better relative to phones?
 it's just easier to work around the poor UX on traditional linux installs
 Right.
 i don't think the way to fix it on the phone is to just install pavucontrol. it's not a good UX
 right solution is making things smarter on the phone, and providing some better UX for controlling volume, and advanced audio routing if necessary, but make it usable and something that is generally not needed
 But would you say the hardware/Android legacyt parts of the system limit the ability to achieve that?
 *legacy
 no
 not in general anyway
 there are of course going to be special cases, as there is with anything else involving android
 but in general, this issue is all on the pulseaudio side
 at least, as far as we care
 we aren't going to fix the UX in android
 I see.
 can you pastebin the output of running the aforementioned pacmd bit i suggested, on the M10?
 Well, sure, but I'm just about to head out for a grocery shop. I will later on today.
 ok
 or `pacmd list-sinks` instead might be better
 i wonder if slimport audio works with sailfish
 I remember trying that but it doesn't even support video
 Could audio be injected into the video channel somehow and be extracted at the other end?
 As with old cine film
 @Stereofont, You are making the issue more complicated than it is. Complicated solutions like this would require specific support for weird hacks on the other end, meanwhile the standard in use already specifies how exactly audio is to be sent
 It seemed complicated already 😂
 It is not complicated. It is just bugs.
 @Javacookies, I wonder if this simply the reason why it doesn't work then. The pulseaudio droid module is from Jolla, so if they never implemented slimport support at all, it's very plausible it wouldn't have any audio support for it either
 @sverzegnassi I tested your QtQuickControls suru style, and in general most parts look surprisingly good, for example the sliders. … With a Kirigami app I tested, I noticed a few problems: … - The color hightlightedTextColor is not set by the suru style, which leads to some parts just being colored grey … - centering does not rea
[11:14] <ubptgbot> lly work well? `anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter` … - (I tested a messaging app) The messages on the ChatPage weren't displayed correctly … Suru style: … http://imgload.org/images/Screenshot_20180225_120931de14aecaba5162e7.md.png … Plasma Mobile style: … http://imgload.org/images/Screenshot_20180225_1210598740c728067b307a.md.png … I kn
[11:14] <ubptgbot> ow this is currently work-in-progress, but I wanted to report the issues so you have a chance to fix them :)
 @JBBgameich, Sure, appreciated! :) Do you know where I can find the source code for the app you've tested? I want to get this fixed as soon as possible
 https://github.com/KaidanIM/kaidan
 I tested everything on the desktop, Kaidan is not (yet) ported to Ubuntu Touch
 @kz6fittycent, On my first N4 it was the same Wayne already said. First a spot, then the whole screen.
 (Photo, 984x984) https://irc.ubports.com/VfPrQGIi.png #PolarM400
 @JBBgameich Cool, thanks. Will give it a look in the next days
 @TartanSpartan, Is english your mother tongue? Just curious because this had some interesting tone and style in it. I teach ESL so its interesting from time to time to see language development
[14:13] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> (Photo, 800x600) https://irc.ubports.com/RczA0E6O.png
[14:13] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> So i set up the VM with Ubuntu and downloaded the Ubports installer for it. It recognizes my phone as BQ Aquaris E4.5 Krillin and then i have to input admin password for it to flash the images to my phone. I authorize and my phone switches on its own to fastboot mode yada yada...but now its stuck on this screen. Any tips?
 @Squish :3, Why are you using a VM?
[14:21] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Because it couldnt make it work on windows and i cant install ubuntu on my laptop.
 Oh ok
 Well in any case, it's possible the VM doesn't want to passthrough the fastboot usb stuff
[14:22] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Can i enable that?
 What vm software are you using?
[14:22] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> VMWare Workstation (free)
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=krillin \ … —channel=ubports-touch/15.04/stable —bootstrap —recovery-image=recovery-krillin.img I tried using this command
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> the terminal says theres no system image on ubports server for krillin
 Yea, it looks like vmware won't passthrough USB devices unless the host has a driver
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin damn...
 https://www.vmware.com/support/ws3/doc/ws32_devices5.html
 Maybe the installer wasn't working on Windows simply because you didn't have fastboot drivers
[14:25] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin hm. So how can i install those? Will Minimal ADB and Fastboot drivers work?
 should work
[14:26] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Ill give it a try. Thank you so much
 go into device manager and see if Windows recognizes the phone
 Yea no problem
[14:26] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> windows recognizes the phone
[14:26] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> as bq aquaris e4.5
[14:26] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> always has
 even in fastboot? I believe it will show up differently in fastboot mode
[14:27] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> not in fastboot
 ah yea so try intalling fastboot drivers
[14:28] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> WIll do!
 😄
[14:28] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin, Let us hope.
[14:38] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Thank you so much! It's working!!!
[14:41] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Downloading Ubuntu Touch file 1 of 12
 awesome
[14:52] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> its pushing file 1 of 13 for a while now...but im hoping this is normal...
 🤞
[14:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Should it even take this long?
 If your phone is on the UBports Recovery screen it should be fine, otherwise if its stuck just retry the install
[14:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> My phone is still with the screen that says Ubuntu on it
[14:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> oh nvm
[14:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> it is working
 oh ok, awesome!
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Pushing file 3 out of 13
 👍
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> still on screen that says Ubuntu though
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> but hey if its working im not complaining
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> sorry for bothering
 lol
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> but i never did this so questions must be asked
 No its fine, don't be afraid to ask questions!
[14:56] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Ty! It's just i always wanted to use UTouch but never had a phone that could support it. Now i got krillin and it does and im so hype. And i love to learn so
[15:08] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Hey it worked! Showed no UBPorts logo anywhere throughout the installation but it worked! Full setup and has no Ubuntu Store,lots of improvements and the OpenStore installed! Thank you!
 @Squish :3, Awesome! No UBports logo is probably normal, I've only used UT on my Nexus 5 :P
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin The krillin is different. But its good that it natively supports UTouch
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> i got the android version but preferred to switch to UT
 @Squish :3, Good choice lol
 Well in any case i'm glad it worked out
[15:11] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Same!
[15:12] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> So the Open Store is integrated in the system?
[15:12] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> the updates menu actually has app updates
[15:12] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> wot
 I thought I'd catch up on German news through the new 'taz.de' app but it won't launch. I'm using a BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition updated to 15.04 stable. I couldn't see an email or contact for Gerhard Mocza. Hopefully he will see this and learn of the issue.
 Hi folks, today i've made another wallpaper. It's a little bit retro, i hope, it is okay so. This wallpaper is mainly fit for the Nexus 5. 1080x1920
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/i0qWTc8A.png
 The wallpaper looks very nice on the Fairphone, too
 ☺
 @Daniel, Thats fine 😊
[15:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @Waldbursche Looks dope!
 Fine. I made one more for the M10.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/KQwfXhga.png
 I hope it's proper with the notification circle
 It is ☺
 Okay
 @seshpenguin, Needs a double passthrough for two phone ID checks
[17:00] <ZeroPointEnergy> is there a way to start apps from the shell for debugging? If I try "qmlscene --desktop_file_hint /usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.ubports/1.8/com.ubuntu.ubports.desktop qml/Main.qml" I get:
[17:00] <ZeroPointEnergy> UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is ...
 You can use `ubuntu-app-launch` to do it
[17:01] <ZeroPointEnergy> ah ok, nice
[17:01] <ZeroPointEnergy> thx
 @Squish :3, It does but it is better to use updates within OpenStore
[17:03] <ZeroPointEnergy> hmm, no output, the apps just crash right away
 @Stereofont, It's better to use a hub in this case, so you can pass the hub device through to the VM, and it will stay connected.
 @ZeroPointEnergy, Which rootfs?
[17:04] <ZeroPointEnergy> xenial armhf
 Apparmor is wonky over there
 So... if you really want to play with it, disable apparmor for now. Until it gets fixed.
 @dohbee, Thanks
 check the app log in `~/.cache/upstart/` and `/var/log/syslog` to see if apparmor is the issue or what
 I think you can do it with `apparmor=0` on the cmdline
 not recommended for daily use
[17:05] <ZeroPointEnergy> Maybe what is going on there. They ran, then I changed all the kernel settings from the halium-boot check script and now they don't
 Yep, that'll enable apparmor
 @dohbee maybe you know my answer here. How can I run unity8-dash from the commandline and have unity8 not reject the connection? I've tried `unity8-dash --destkop_file_hint=unity8-dash`
 I spelled desktop wrong
[17:08] <ZeroPointEnergy> will try the latest rootfs buld. The one I used is almost two weeks old I see
[17:14] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Is UTouch heavier than android? If so is it supposed to eat more at your battery?
 @Squish :3, Its not as optimized as Android. But thats something that will be fixed over time
[17:19] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @Flohack oh alright. its just that i need my battery life 😆
 Everyone needs that but except with some devices the battery life is really ok
[17:20] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> oh alright ^^
[17:22] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Hey guys, I got Halium to boot ubports, but I'm getting a permission denied error when I try to "lxc-start -nandroid -F"
 You're running as `phablet`, right?
 `sudo -i` to get a root shell
 battery is great on bq E5...Nexus 5 though not really
[17:23] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Has anyone tried it on e4.5?
[17:23] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Right, if I try it as root or in a root shell it spits a tone of file not found and file already exists errors
 Well, those are probably the errors that explain why it isn't starting
 Is it running already? `lxc-info -nandroid`
[17:24] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> I don't get them if I try it as phablet though, I put android back on it so I'll have to check later, but I don't think it was cause my device stayed on the power on screen
[17:25] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> As phablet it was saying it couldn't create create directories cause permission was denied
 Yes, because phablet doesn't have permission to run the container
 Hey guys any news about Nexus 5x?
 @JoshuaAshton, It's sitting on my desk and I'd rather I threw it out the window
 Lol
[17:27] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Ahh OK, that explains that part, the missing files errors were to RM files, and the file already exist is prob why you asked if its already running, if it is, what can/should I try next?
 See why `lightdm` isn't starting
 Good place to start is to run `unity-system-compositor` and see what it does
 (as root)
[17:28] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> OK, then use any errors its gives me as a starting point
 If it's broken, it'll probably segfault before it does anything else
 Which is your chance to see what adreno does in `logcat`1
 [Edit] Which is your chance to see what adreno does in `logcat`
[17:29] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> I tried startx (shows how far behind I am on Ubuntu) and it said invalid command lol
 I don't think there's any libhybris OS that uses x
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> I don't think any Linux distro uses x anymore
 Most do
 Wayland isn't ready yet
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Do t they use like lightx or so.etching lightweight compared to the standard xwin system?
 I don't think so? Just plain ol' x.org
[17:31] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Hmm, anyways, thanks for the tips, I asked in halium and got "you have ssh, your done" for an answer
 I answered that because I wasn't really sure what you were trying to do
 All of them use xorg display server. Ubuntu giving up Wayland on 18.04
[17:32] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> *facepalm* I didn't even realize till you just said that
 I'm the Universal Super Box!
[17:32] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Lol
[17:34] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Hopefully I'll get somewhere when I try again, I kinda needed the device though so I threw android back on it for now, glad I made backups before I did though
 Yep. Be extra sure to backup `/data/media`
 Otherwise you'll get really sad
[17:35] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Well everything on my device is backed up to a SD card, and an external HDD once every 6 no this (no thly for SD)
 It's normally not in nand backups from TWRP or similar
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Yea, but I do a full backup once every 6 months which has a nand backup, then a backup of personal files, and a backup of anything else twrp doesn't backup
 Cool
[17:39] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Yea been dealing with IT for several years, got tired of monthly full backups, so I do incrementals monthly and full backups every 6
[17:40] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> I'm still a noon when it co.es to the mobile space and programming though
[17:40] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> Noob, not noon
[17:47] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Im a definite noob when it comes to development.
 there's really no Report an Issue/view source in the telegram app?
[17:48] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> My telegram is fine xD
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <Tygerpro Tygerpro> @Javacookies, Do you have an issue to report?
 yes, just wondering why there's no link in the app
 would just like to request for Alt/Shift + Enter support :)
 Shouldn't that toggle full screen?
 Where can i find the logfiles from uMatriks?
 @dohbee, actually you might be right....yeah whatever keyboard combination will do … I think Shift + Enter works on most IM apps for entering a new line … and Alt + Enter I think is in MS Excel LOL
 https://github.com/ubports/unity8/issues/16 … this made my day! loves the HUD :)
 Must disagree
 and also this one … https://www.behance.net/gallery/51029335/Ubuntu-System-Indicators … UBports taking over the Unity8 is really exciting! :)
 @dohbee, you're always on the other side...I don't like you, go away … LOL just kidding 😝
 @Javacookies, They are sexi
 @Javacookies, Yes boiii
 Eh. Needs a lot less stuff there
[18:35] <ubptgbot> Zack was added by: Zack
 @Zack, Hello Zack. For a brief roundup of UBports stuff check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 Thank you!
 btw usernames are useful in Telegram, for pings, invites etc
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/p5zIiMUc.png
 I never tried it on my ubuntu laptop but I'm definitely enjoying this on my Nexus 5 :)
 oops....wrong screenshot
 LOL
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/qhC572W0.png
 dear list, after giving up installing my old image to ubports without success i have decided to reset my bq e5. now i have an OTA 15 from 2017 january 27, without terminal, without openstore, means I can not install any new apps on it. Updates are not available and have no idea how to get to the next level :) any hints are welcome
 I think the only way is not to give up
 @Popesz, Well, you will have to flash over to ubports
 true, will not give up, this weekend I managed to have an ubuntu 17.10, but forgot to install phablet-tools and adb so the ubports did not manage to flash the recovery and boot image.
 so tomorrow I follow the steps, hope that is enough to prepare the computer for successful flashing
 you need `ubuntu-device-flash` not `phablet-tools`
 and it is enough?
 it is the tool for flashing the device
 ubuntu-device-flash and ubport-installer?
 i don't know if what's in 17.10 will still work or not though
 ubports-installer is basically a graphical version of ubuntu-device-flash
 you need one or the other, not necessarily both
 ubports stucks on the flashing recovery and boot images. tried it on mac, windows and ubuntu
 Sounds hardware related. It is always worth trying another USB cable and if the micro usb port is a bit loose you can help to complete the connection by pressing very gently from one side
 adb devices lists the phone correctly, ubports recongises too, not really convinced if it is the cable
 Cables are complex. Recognition does not mean that the data channel works correctly
 could someone make a list of commands step-by-step how to flash bq5 manually?
 ok will check it, however i use the original bq cable
 @Popesz, Often, the trash cable is the one that works
 Best to join the Welcome & Install group
 sorry for it, i move there now, thanks
 Any of the welcome links will take you there
 manually is a little more annoying on the original retail devices that came with ubuntu, because you need to flash using a special recovery image that enables adb
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/yAu5xl9l.png
 the website is having some troubles
 I can confirm
 @vanyasem, still not working??
 nop
 damn
 just got that message a minute ago and also manually checked
 a last wuick question, how I can install openstore on my device which has no working ubuntu apps nor terminal installed?
 @sk8higher is very shy to post it here herself
 [Edit] a last quick question, how I can install openstore on my device which has no working ubuntu apps nor terminal installed?
 [Edit] a last quick question, how can I install openstore on my device which has no working ubuntu apps nor terminal installed?
 @Popesz, I do not think that you can
 ssh / adb?
 or force a system update which is out of date but update will not find anything, says the device is up-to-date
 Same visualization on desk. I thought was a problem with a firefox plugin
 @Popesz, It was not designed to understand that UBports exists
 so my phone stucked on an antient image which can not be changed?
 @Popesz, It will have to be flashed to Ubuntu Touch from UBports. Sad to hear that ot has been so difficult for you
 @Popesz, [Edit] It will have to be flashed to Ubuntu Touch from UBports. Sad to hear that it has been so difficult for you
 especially that i do not want to say goodbye to ubuntu phone
 @Popesz, you would have to grab the click from the open store, and side-load it
 @Popesz, You must flash to the ubports image and server first
 maybe you should try to find a local to help you
 it is difficult to help further remotely, when all standard suggestions have been exhausted
 May be a very inappropriate suggestion but depending on your circumstances, a used OnePlusOne would be a nice alternative
 would this work for me according to you? https://github.com/ubports/wiki.ubports.com/blob/master/How-to-install-Ubuntu-Touch-16.04.md
 changing the devicename to vegetablehd and the touch version to 15.04/stable
 16.04 is quite unstable still
 Yee
 Hopefully vegetahd
 true :)
 it should work
 using vegetahd won't help flash a krillin i don't think
 honestly, if the problems you're having flashing 15.04 are all local, it is very unlikely that trying to flash 16.04 will work any better
 so you meant i should just connect the phone and run the command in terminal or something else before needed
 you missunderstood me, I meant to flash 15.04 stable with the same command
 [Edit] you misunderstood me, I meant to flash 15.04 stable with the same command
 you also don't need to run that with sudo
 you also will need the correct recovery image to pass to ubuntu-device-flash, for your device
 how can I do it?
 I think i flashed it already many times, the questin is what is the correct order of this manual flashing
 You'll need the recovery image from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash
 and add `--recovery-image=recovery-krillin.img` for example, as an argument to the `ubuntu-device-flash` command
 oh you have e5, not e4.5, sorry
 so you need recovery-vegetahd.img from that link
 and `ubuntu-device-flash --server https://system-image.ubports.com/ touch --channel ubports-touch/15.04/stable --recovery-image recovery-vegetahd.img`
 that's it?
 i guess i have to change directory to my downloaded image
 btw YUMI stands for Your Universal Multiboot Installer
 💨
 i don't think so
 skinminers_rus
 @vanyasem, still broken
 Yikes. I've pinged the guys who usually know and can help but not sure if they replied. Thanks for notifying
 (Photo, 1280x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/tO66pEUV.png
 Here too the website.
 looks ok
 @Javacookies, thanks for the sponsoring btw😂
[23:20] <ZeroPointEnergy> @UniversalSuperBox the problem with the apps not starting was indeed apparmor. They work fine now. thanks. Will have to take a look at how to debug this
 Policy needs to be righted in the rootfs
[23:24] <ZeroPointEnergy> in general or just for my device?
 In general
[23:24] <ZeroPointEnergy> ah ok
[23:25] <ZeroPointEnergy> then I will look at the other stuff in the meantime :-)
 For your device maybe
 Depends on the exact issues
 Apps not launching is fairly universal for Halium ports
 Yeah, because they're new devices
 just came back after couple hours of fighting. Looks like fastboot does not recognise my device. adb devices are fine but when ubports installer gets to sudo -S fastboot devices, the process stucks
 even added the vendor id to /dev/udev/.../99-android.rules but no success