[00:01] lol [00:05] @wayneoutthere, Lol, you and me both [00:05] Hi five to hot air [00:31] Squish :3 was added by: Squish :3 [00:31] Hello! [00:31] I need some help if anyone is around! [00:31] Welcome Squish :3 [00:32] Thank you @matv1 ! [00:32] go ahead and ask [00:32] Ah [00:32] So im using the BQ Aquaris E4.5 [00:32] And i installed the Official Ubuntu Touch for it. [00:32] I installed OpenStore through terminal etc etc [00:32] It sometimes auto soft reboots. Can anyone explain/help solve? [00:34] most of us see that from time to time. How often is that in your case? if it is daily thats not right [00:34] it is most commonly Unity restarting [00:35] Happens sometimes. Especially when im trying to do too much too fast. [00:35] I really want to use this as a daily driver. [00:36] ah yes that fits with what other ppl are seeing. it runs out of memory. theoreticcaly iUT should limit the running apps if that happens but never Unity. But I am afraid it does [00:37] Aaaaah alright that makes sense. So are there any solutions? [00:38] well, there might be improvement on that once we move to 16.04 [00:38] but I am not sure about that [00:38] There is indeed alot of stability updates with 16.04 [00:38] I tried installing the UBports version on windows10 but the program does never recognize my device [00:38] Even with developer mode on [00:38] And the device on fastboot mode [00:39] Krillin doesnt have a static bootloader mode per se [00:39] Its just another menu with wipe options. [00:39] @Squish :3, sorry I do not use Windows [00:40] We do have some problems on Windows due to drivers, i would recomend trying to install with an ubuntu virtual box. We are trying our best to fix the issues on windows [00:40] Well i used it because of games xD [00:40] @jamesbateaux, You lack confidence. Be like doogie howser [00:40] Ahhhh alright. Yes linux based os' have no issues with drivers.... [00:40] Windows and usb is really hard.. [00:41] @mariogrip Yeah i know. A virtual drive it is. What does the UBPorts version have over the Canonical official version for the E 4.5? [00:42] @Squish :3, Quite alot of updated and bug fixes. too many to count :) [00:42] @mariogrip Anywhere i can read that changelog? [00:43] Btw i love Ubuntu Touch xD Its beautiful [00:43] @Squish :3, It's not dead. :) [00:43] @dohbee Fair point 😆 [00:44] I'm kinda tired of android after 5 years of modding it. [00:44] Can't be arsed to get an iOS device because i need privacy and battery life. [00:45] And Windows Phone is just as abandoned as Canonical's UT. [00:45] @Squish :3, https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones?state=closed this is the best we have, we also have blog post about the updates https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-3-76 https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-2-release-74 [00:45] apparently Apple is now storing iCloud stuff in China and has given the gov't over their access... [00:45] so even more reason to seek other solutions [00:46] @mariogrip Thank you! So i should just set up an Ubuntu Virual Box and use UBInstaller though that? [00:46] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insight/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-keys-in-china-raising-human-rights-fears-idUSKCN1G8060 [00:46] @kz6fittycent True also. But i tried the system and fell in love with it. [00:46] @Squish :3, yeah that should work [00:47] @Squish :3, iOS or UTouch? [00:47] @mariogrip Will try! FIngers crossed. [00:47] @kz6fittycent UTouch. [00:47] gotcha [00:47] @kz6fittycent Had an iOS once. FIrst thing i did was jailbreak it. [00:47] I am issued one from work; don't like it [00:47] @kz6fittycent By midday had 50% battery left. [00:48] ha [00:48] @kz6fittycent No thank you. I need my music all day. [00:49] ah i have another question @mariogrip ! Sorry i'm bothering [00:49] @Squish :3, sure go ahead [00:50] @mariogrip So from Android to UTouch i noticed that the volume of multimedia is really low even on max with headphones on. I tried UVol but that doesnt help a whole lot. Anything i can do to fix this? [00:51] @mariogrip Im not looking for a way to go deaf but i do enjoy blasting some bass though my headphones from time to time. [00:52] @Squish :3, it depends on the devices, some device cannot deliver as much *power* as others. but i guess my question is was this the same device you had android on as ut on? [00:52] @mariogrip Yes. Hence my question. [00:52] @Squish :3, well, i just want to correct that Canonical's UT was never abandoned - BY US. It was abanoned by Canonical but the dream lives on and, in my opinion, it's now much better and quickly going to 'super awesome' [00:53] @Squish :3, good answer ;) [00:53] @Squish :3, humm, then im not sure, i will take a look at and see what i find [00:54] @wayneoutthere Im aware yes. You guys are doing an amazing job. The system is amazing. I love it and i intend to learn as much as i can. OCD is killing me because i can't remove the Ubuntu Store app. [00:54] @mariogrip Thank you so much! [00:54] I'm just so tired of android. I like it. But i'm tired of seeing the same old same old. [00:55] Besides, having the security and multitude of options of Ubuntu in the palm of my hand is brilliant. [00:55] you are speaking music now [00:56] now that unity8 is rolling... boom. convergence is on the table [00:56] and anbox ... [00:56] 2018 is set to be a year to remember [00:56] definitely won't be same ol' same ol' around here [00:56] @wayneoutthere Yes! I mean the only reason i'd want anbox is for messenger. or discord. or whatsapp. The rest of the things i use is in UTouch already. [00:57] @wayneoutthere I like my reddit and instagram. the rest is a lot of music,youtube and some casual gaming. Pokemon on a GBA emulator does the job brilliantly. [00:58] @wayneoutthere I tell this to so many people. The day i can play games on Linux like i do on Windows is the day i ditch Windows. [00:58] same. i may never use anbox but it's a good 'bridge' to bring the lost people in [00:58] @wayneoutthere True but imho UTouch isn't complicated at all. [00:58] @Squish :3, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend you ditch games with windows ;) [00:59] then your problem is solved [01:00] @wayneoutthere Hahahah sadly i need my Fallout3 amongst other things that sadly aren't available yet on Linux based systems. [01:00] @wayneoutthere Absolutely! Who doesn't like pokemon [01:03] @Squish :3, can't you run windows as a VM inside your ubuntu machine? [01:03] @wayneoutthere I can but on a low end laptop is seriously hinders the experience. [01:04] Huh [01:04] i only like pacman and tetris so yeah.. [01:05] I play games on Linux just fine [01:05] I play super tux amazingly [01:05] that's what I thought... maybe over to OT group? … https://t.me/ubports_ot [01:05] ha [01:05] Discord should work fine too === cc_ is now known as xx [02:06] I'll be using anbox for a couple apps that I might need, otherwise its just a cool feature to have for those that -need- android [02:16] Hello all, I am trying to port Ubuntu Touch onto an old BN Nook "tablet". Wish me luck! [02:20] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/MVeKKiM2.mp4 [02:30] https://devices.ubports.com/#/krillin If i run this on an Ubuntu VMWare will it work to install UBTouch on the E4.5? [02:59] Igor, I will be most interested in your progress. I have one of those, as well as one of the older Nook Color models. [03:15] Anyone know the Arch Linux Telegram channel? [03:22] @AmolithSeregion, Do you need to flash UT in arch linux? [03:23] @Yance, No I just need help with thumbnails. I have none for mp4 files [03:26] @AmolithSeregion, Oh. I don't know telegram group for arch linux in english. Just in bahasa. What de and file manager do you use? [03:31] @Yance, OpenBox and Nemo [03:50] Have you installed ffmpegthumbs? [03:50] Nicolascuevas was added by: Nicolascuevas [04:50] @Yance, Yes and I removed the entire thumbnail folder [05:32] Hi from Ubuntu Touch [05:53] @tsimonq2, Ohi [06:23] ferds666 was added by: ferds666 [06:23] Good Day People [06:23] I was wondering if the app Wire Secure Messenger works on Ubuntu Touch? [06:24] I know they have a deb package available, not sure if it translates to the mobile platform [07:16] Andreu was added by: Andreu [08:53] @Squish :3, If you are still on the Canonical version it seriously is time to switch 😊 [09:01] @Stereofont, Thanks Lionelb, I haven't see your welcome message until now, I'm a little bit clueless [09:20] Does anyone know how to do an IRC bridge via Telegram? I'd like persistance with my messages in one IRC group. [09:24] @ferds666, The .deb probably won't work, and mobile apps aren't installed via debs. The web interface should work in the browser though, I think. [09:33] @ferds666, There is a Signal appeared. In for pitstop repairs atm [09:34] App [09:35] @D4nk0l3vis, No problem. Watch and ask questions [09:39] I mean I know people IRC bridge into this supergroup, so is the reverse possible? [09:41] Guessing it would have to be two way rather than just export ? That could be tricky? Also privacy precedents etc? [09:43] Otherwise though, is there any solution for permanence? Because I've used the IRC website before and it's like, you need to leave the browser and therefore computer active, which is a strain on power/computing resources in general and I sense that maybe the people on this group are in North American time or something so might [09:43] have to wait for hours... [09:43] You can forward to saved message folder. Send to self [09:44] Elaborate sorry? What hardware are you thinking- desktop, or UT phablet? [09:45] Ah I understood the wrong way round. Permanence of irc [09:46] @Stereofont, Signal and Wire are different things [09:46] Yessir. [09:47] Yes, different but Signal could serve a similar purpose? [09:47] @TartanSpartan, i know some people have used irccloud, there are other similar solutions available, some you can host yourself as well [09:47] Host myself, what do you mean exactly? [09:48] @Stereofont, If your employer has a contract with Wire, I doubt Signal will help there [09:48] @TartanSpartan, i mean run a server with bouncer or whatever that's permanently connected to irc [10:10] Right well I don't have a NAS yet or anything. Will go for a simple, low cost solution i.e. irccloud. [10:18] @TartanSpartan, miracast, slimport, micro HDMI supports audio out, I've tried them in Android and they work fine. I believe it's a known bug in Canonical but not site if it's been acknowledged in UBports [10:20] Yeah I think there was a bit of miscommunication on that front between myself and @UniversalSuperBox last night because I thought he knew the answers to the questions I had but was being cagey, or otherwise rhetorical, but I think in hindsight he was genuinely asking me some questions. But sorry to the main man if that was the [10:20] case, that's what happens with IM internet communication from time to time. [10:28] I don't think aethercast provides a pulseaudio module, so likely doesn't route the audio. Try `pacmd info | grep "name:"` to see what outputs pulseaudio knows of [10:30] Audio routing on phones is apparently very difficult. Android doesn't seem to even have a way to route audio how I want to route it [10:32] Perhaps in future UBPorts devs could try to make routing easier and more along the lines of how it works for PCs? Unless the hardware/Android legacy parts of the system put a hard limit on that. [10:34] I would say PCs do it wrong too [10:34] Rakesh PK was added by: Rakesh PK [10:34] But objectively better relative to phones? [10:34] it's just easier to work around the poor UX on traditional linux installs [10:34] Right. [10:36] i don't think the way to fix it on the phone is to just install pavucontrol. it's not a good UX [10:38] right solution is making things smarter on the phone, and providing some better UX for controlling volume, and advanced audio routing if necessary, but make it usable and something that is generally not needed [10:38] But would you say the hardware/Android legacyt parts of the system limit the ability to achieve that? [10:38] *legacy [10:39] no [10:39] not in general anyway [10:39] there are of course going to be special cases, as there is with anything else involving android [10:40] but in general, this issue is all on the pulseaudio side [10:40] at least, as far as we care [10:40] we aren't going to fix the UX in android [10:41] I see. [10:43] can you pastebin the output of running the aforementioned pacmd bit i suggested, on the M10? [10:44] Well, sure, but I'm just about to head out for a grocery shop. I will later on today. [10:45] ok [10:48] or `pacmd list-sinks` instead might be better [11:00] i wonder if slimport audio works with sailfish [11:05] I remember trying that but it doesn't even support video [11:05] Could audio be injected into the video channel somehow and be extracted at the other end? [11:06] As with old cine film [11:07] @Stereofont, You are making the issue more complicated than it is. Complicated solutions like this would require specific support for weird hacks on the other end, meanwhile the standard in use already specifies how exactly audio is to be sent [11:07] It seemed complicated already 😂 [11:08] It is not complicated. It is just bugs. [11:13] @Javacookies, I wonder if this simply the reason why it doesn't work then. The pulseaudio droid module is from Jolla, so if they never implemented slimport support at all, it's very plausible it wouldn't have any audio support for it either [11:14] @sverzegnassi I tested your QtQuickControls suru style, and in general most parts look surprisingly good, for example the sliders. … With a Kirigami app I tested, I noticed a few problems: … - The color hightlightedTextColor is not set by the suru style, which leads to some parts just being colored grey … - centering does not rea [11:14] lly work well? `anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter` … - (I tested a messaging app) The messages on the ChatPage weren't displayed correctly … Suru style: … http://imgload.org/images/Screenshot_20180225_120931de14aecaba5162e7.md.png … Plasma Mobile style: … http://imgload.org/images/Screenshot_20180225_1210598740c728067b307a.md.png … I kn [11:14] ow this is currently work-in-progress, but I wanted to report the issues so you have a chance to fix them :) [11:59] @JBBgameich, Sure, appreciated! :) Do you know where I can find the source code for the app you've tested? I want to get this fixed as soon as possible [12:00] https://github.com/KaidanIM/kaidan [12:02] I tested everything on the desktop, Kaidan is not (yet) ported to Ubuntu Touch [12:42] @kz6fittycent, On my first N4 it was the same Wayne already said. First a spot, then the whole screen. [12:50] (Photo, 984x984) https://irc.ubports.com/VfPrQGIi.png #PolarM400 [13:26] @JBBgameich Cool, thanks. Will give it a look in the next days [13:26] @TartanSpartan, Is english your mother tongue? Just curious because this had some interesting tone and style in it. I teach ESL so its interesting from time to time to see language development [14:13] (Photo, 800x600) https://irc.ubports.com/RczA0E6O.png [14:13] So i set up the VM with Ubuntu and downloaded the Ubports installer for it. It recognizes my phone as BQ Aquaris E4.5 Krillin and then i have to input admin password for it to flash the images to my phone. I authorize and my phone switches on its own to fastboot mode yada yada...but now its stuck on this screen. Any tips? [14:20] @Squish :3, Why are you using a VM? [14:21] @seshpenguin Because it couldnt make it work on windows and i cant install ubuntu on my laptop. [14:21] Oh ok [14:21] Well in any case, it's possible the VM doesn't want to passthrough the fastboot usb stuff [14:22] @seshpenguin Can i enable that? [14:22] What vm software are you using? [14:22] VMWare Workstation (free) [14:24] sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=krillin \ … —channel=ubports-touch/15.04/stable —bootstrap —recovery-image=recovery-krillin.img I tried using this command [14:24] the terminal says theres no system image on ubports server for krillin [14:24] Yea, it looks like vmware won't passthrough USB devices unless the host has a driver [14:24] @seshpenguin damn... [14:24] https://www.vmware.com/support/ws3/doc/ws32_devices5.html [14:25] Maybe the installer wasn't working on Windows simply because you didn't have fastboot drivers [14:25] @seshpenguin hm. So how can i install those? Will Minimal ADB and Fastboot drivers work? [14:25] should work [14:26] @seshpenguin Ill give it a try. Thank you so much [14:26] go into device manager and see if Windows recognizes the phone [14:26] Yea no problem [14:26] windows recognizes the phone [14:26] as bq aquaris e4.5 [14:26] always has [14:27]