[13:14] jbicha: Hi Jeremy! [13:14] To test my g-c-c proposal I updated the binaries built by gnome-desktop3 to version 3.27.90-1ubuntu1. However, I still have libgnome-desktop-3-12 3.26.2-1ubuntu1 too, and when I tried to remove it, apt suggested that I'd remove basically the whole desktop.. [13:14] Is that a problem, and if so, is it something you are aware of? [13:17] jbicha: Should libgnome-desktop-3-17 provide libgnome-desktop-3-12 or something? [13:57] no, we are in the middle of a gnome-desktop3 transition [13:57] the new library is stuck in bionic-proposed, maybe it will migrate on Monday or Tuesday [13:57] it's a bit tricky to downgrade packages like that (not officially supported) [13:58] but if you're going to do it, try something like [13:58] sudo apt install libgnome-desktop-3-12/bionic gnome-desktop3-data/bionic gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0/bionic [13:59] an important part is that you get all the related packages together [14:00] oh, I misread. Yeah, you won't be able to remove libgnome-desktop-3-12 until you get all the packages that are built against it (they are in bionic-proposed now) [14:01] I don't support this PPA but you might be able to just add this PPA, upgrade and then remove the PPA (because I'll delete the PPA in a few weeks probably) [14:01] https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ubuntu/tempgnomedesktop/+packages [14:29] jbicha: Thanks for explaining! I'll won't add that PPA - don't want to get so deeply involved in the transition. Now I know that everything is under control, and that's why I asked. :) [14:45] gnome-desktop3 was supposed to be an easy transition (see everything worked in the PPA) but it's ended up taking us several hours of work [14:46] two MIRs need to be processed and some packages removed and the mesa transition to finish [16:29] jbicha: Oops, sounds like I stumbled upon a can of worms. [16:31] jbicha: Any thoughts from you on [16:31] https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gnome-control-center/scrollbar_hide-more/+merge/339494 ? [16:31] (Not asking you to sponsor - want to talk with Seb and/or Laney first.)