[09:07] <flocculant> bluesabre: ygm :)
[10:17] <flocculant> done 16.04.4 64 bit - passed everything mandatory, failed lvm run-once due to that locale bug 
[10:17] <flocculant> which is fixed for bionic at least
[12:33] <knome> bluesabre, i haven't thought what happens if the same bug is in two blueprints, so yes, it can be a bit weird...
[12:55] <knome> condector, hello!
[12:56] <condector> hi knome 
[12:56] <knome> so basically we usually require people to take the usual route to become an officially registered ubuntu mirror in launchpad
[12:56] <condector> I come to contrib a little bit with resources to project
[12:56] <condector> hum
[12:56] <knome> this helps us with keeping our information up-to-date
[12:56] <condector> I see, but the ubuntu itself is really huge
[12:56] <knome> yes...
[12:57] <knome> let me dig up some information about this
[12:57] <knome> we don't want to require sharing ubuntu...
[12:58] <condector> I already mirror LibreOffice, CentOS, Clamav, and think that I also could contrib as a mirror to Xubuntu (I see that to mirror the project itself not need a lot of space)
[12:58] <knome> pleia2, ping for you too since you have been handling these things before
[13:00] <condector> thanks
[13:01] <knome> i think we'll need to create a xubuntu.org page for this in order to make sure we give out the same instructions to everybody who wants to help :)
[13:03] <condector> Yes, I search for it you know
[13:03] <knome> condector, to make sure we don't forget your question, could you please send us mail at xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com (and preferably subscribe before you do so we don't have to manually approve posts) with all the information you've told us above
[13:03] <condector> When I create our first mirror for CentOS, I use their wiki to do the first sync using rsync, and when I finished the first sync, I send an e-mail with my IP, domain, bandwidth and "capabilities" (http, ftp, rsync, etc).
[13:04] <condector> knome, ok. I will do that.
[13:04] <knome> yes, i think we'll want that kind of information as well, but probably in another low-traffic and not publily archived list
[13:05] <condector> ok.
[13:17] <knome> (sorry for the silence, i'm writing a draft of the mirror page; if you have any further questions or want to discuss something, feel free to and i'll likely reply)
[13:19] <condector> done knome 
[13:20] <knome> cheers
[13:20] <knome> i'll reply after i've done the work with this page
[13:20] <condector> knome, I also send on the list this link: https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/CreatePublicMirrors
[13:20] <knome> yeah, thanks
[13:20] <condector> Was the steps that I followed to become a CentOS mirror, maybe could help you
[13:20] <condector> cheers.
[13:27] <condector> a better one: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Infra/Mirroring
[13:30] <knome> right, these are more of a technical documentation on getting set up
[13:36] <condector> yes
[13:38] <knome> useful too, though
[13:50] <knome> ok, first public draft is out
[13:50] <knome> condector, pleia2, Unit193: https://xubuntu.org/dev/mirrors
[13:50] <knome> comments?
[13:51] <condector> Ok, let me read.
[13:52] <condector> very good
[13:52] <knome> and replied to your mail as well
[13:53] <knome> i'll want input from both pleia2 and Unit193 before we go on full public and official, but after that we should be fine with going ahead
[13:53] <condector> I see it right now. :D
[13:54] <condector> Maybe a second page on future to help new mirrors but with the "tweaks" that you said on this draft page.
[13:55] <condector> Could be helpfull too. 
[13:55] <knome> maybe... though the issue is (from my POV) that we are such a small team that I don't want to promise help for everybody setting up
[14:05] <Unit193> 1. Errant space 'least  by'.  2. Preferred capoltization is 'freenode'.  3. Sure this is all correct for flavor mirrors as well?  4. In desired info under "HTTP URL", "whether you plan to support TLS" or somesuch?  5. Perhaps have a closing that it'd be good to notify if one expects to have extended downtime or no longer desires to mirror.
[14:07] <condector> I see knome, no problem.
[14:07] <knome> Unit193, ack, feel free to go edit directly
[14:07] <condector> Unit193, on other projects they use mirmon to "auto remove" inactive mirror´s
[14:08] <condector> like this one: https://download.documentfoundation.org/mirmon/
[14:08] <knome> ubuntu might do that, but i don't think that's in our scope...
[14:08] <condector> ah, I see
[14:08] <Unit193> knome: But there's still the links on the site.
[14:08] <knome> we usually check the mirrors at least once before and after release
[14:08] <knome> Unit193, what links?
[14:10] <Unit193> And alright, figured you were better at wording. :P
[14:10] <knome> this was rather hastily put together
[14:10] <knome> and we can iterate...
[14:29]  * condector smile
[14:32] <flocculant> bluesabre: ignore the mail - I got time to do draft on x.org > https://xubuntu.org/?p=4415&preview=true
[16:06] <pleia2> knome: for clarity, I'd rewrite: "You will need to provide the downloads at least  by HTTP, but you can optionally provide FTP and rsync as well. SSL is strongly recommended.
[16:07] <pleia2> instead: "You will need to provide the downloads at least by HTTP, preferably HTTPS, but you can optionally provide FTP and rsync as well."
[16:07] <pleia2> otherwise lgtm
[17:47] <Unit193> <link rel='shortlink' href='https://xubuntu.org/?p=4362' />  well that's baked, mirrors.telianet.dk and mirrors.telianet.dk nxdomain, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirrors.fe.up.pt-release 404s, as does http://ftp.yzu.edu.tw/Linux/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/16.04/release/
[17:52] <knome> ok, tackling the wording and additional stuff next
[17:53] <knome> Unit193, re: 3) i don't think there is anything that is "correct" or "incorrect" for flavor mirrors
[17:53] <knome> Unit193, aiui, you can't register an official mirror in LP without serving ubuntu, am i right?
[17:54] <Unit193> That'd be my guess.
[17:54] <knome> this is only for those mirrors who only want to serve xubuntu
[17:54] <knome> if you serve ubuntu, then go the usual route
[17:54] <knome> if not, then still kind of meet the requirements and leave us a note.
[17:54] <knome> make sense?
[17:55] <knome> 4 --> "Your HTTP(S) URL and optionally FTP and rsync URLs" ?
[17:56] <pleia2> sure
[17:56] <knome> for Unit193 too as he commented on that
[17:56] <knome> that's from the "registering" part
[17:56] <knome> the other part is modded as you suggested
[17:56] <pleia2> thanks
[17:56] <Unit193> \o/
[17:56] <knome> and the page is updated with all things now
[17:56] <Unit193> knome: Yes, thanks for writing it up.
[17:56] <knome> go see!
[17:56] <knome> np
[17:57] <knome> i had just the right time and motivation slot, so hurray
[17:57] <pleia2> hehe
[17:58] <pleia2> "but you can be more specific if you will" is weird, I'd just say "but you may be more specific"
[17:58] <knome> ok
[17:59] <knome> another update, refresh your browser
[17:59] <pleia2> lgtm
[17:59] <knome> Unit193, helps me more if you refer with the mouseover tooltips, that's what i see in the admin
[18:01] <Unit193> knome: I could do that, but I too am not checking manually so would have to find them.
[18:01] <Unit193> I wondered where in the world ?p=4362 so searched the source even. :P
[18:01] <knome> Unit193, mirrors.fe ... doesn't give me 404
[18:02] <knome> oh
[18:02] <knome> that link does
[18:02] <knome> hmm
[18:02] <knome> err
[18:03] <Unit193> Yeah, info page.
[18:03] <knome> the non-working mirrors are removed from the list
[18:04] <Unit193> Thanks.
[18:05] <knome> and non-working info link removed
[18:06] <knome> should we be more exact on the contact info?
[18:06] <knome> i guess i mostly meant "email address"
[18:06] <knome> we don't need postal addresses or such nonsense
[18:16] <knome> do we want to make the mirror instructions official now or is there any reason to sleep overnight?
[18:18] <pleia2> make it so!
[18:19] <knome> oki
[18:20] <knome> and let's announce on the mailing list tii
[18:20] <knome> too too
[18:20] <pleia2> k
[18:25] <knome> and done
[18:25] <slickymaster>  /away "At work"
[18:25] <knome> no
[18:25] <knome> :P
[18:25] <knome> (have fun)
[18:36] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-terminal 0.8.7 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-terminal-0-8-7-released-tp50713.html (by Igor Zakharov)
[19:52] <pleia2> I told the social media internet too
[19:53] <knome> :)
[22:25] <ochosi> bluesabre: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/find-cursor/+merge/339500
[22:25] <ochosi> that's needed after the 4.12.2 release of xfce4-settings
[22:28] <ochosi> also, i still want to push in that little print script as thunar helper, not sure in which package to put it though (xubuntu-default-settings currently doesn't contain any scripts). any ideas?
[22:31] <ochosi> anyway, put the PR there just in case: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/thunar-uca-print/+merge/339501
[22:42] <bluesabre> ochosi: xubuntu-default-settings seems sensible. We ship the xdg-xubuntu-templates script there
[22:42] <ochosi> ah right
[22:43] <ochosi> currently finalizing my find-cursor branch
[22:43] <ochosi> i'm ready to merge now to the 4.12 branch
[22:44] <bluesabre> awesome
[22:50] <ochosi> bluesabre: want me to squash the history..?
[22:50] <ochosi> somehow i'm not a huge fan of squashing...
[22:52] <bluesabre> ochosi: it's your call :)
[22:56] <ochosi> whooop-dee-doo, and it's pushed
[22:56] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-terminal 0.8.7.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-terminal-0-8-7-1-released-tp50719.html (by Igor Zakharov)
[22:57] <bluesabre> ochosi: awesome-er :D
[22:57] <bluesabre> anything else you want in that release?
[22:57] <ochosi> i think i'm pretty good
[22:57] <ochosi> the only downside is the new (untranslated) strings
[22:58] <bluesabre> yeah
[22:58] <ochosi> but we can do another translation release later too
[22:58] <ochosi> it's not a huge problem
[22:58] <bluesabre> if you want to also merge your 4.13 version of that, we can get a week of translations before we release
[22:58] <ochosi> (and it's just two strings, of which one is a tooltip)
[22:58] <ochosi> hrm, right. that may be an option
[22:59] <bluesabre> or just release and do a translations bump in a month
[22:59] <bluesabre> I'm content either way
[22:59] <ochosi> same here
[22:59] <ochosi> personally i prefer the current string
[22:59] <ochosi> i reworked it before the push just to be sure
[23:00] <ochosi> oh also
[23:00] <ochosi> in this case no translations
[23:00] <ochosi> i always worked on user branches
[23:00] <ochosi> so there's only one option, release now and then do a translation release
[23:01] <ochosi> regarding the print script, where would you put that? simply /usr/bin?
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[23:01] <bluesabre> :D
[23:01] <bluesabre> that might be right
[23:02] <bluesabre> How much work would it be to catch https://git.xfce.org/users/ochosi/xfce4-settings/?h=find-cursor up to find-cursor-4.12?
[23:02] <bluesabre> might be weird releasing a new feature in the stable release without it existing in the dev release
[23:02] <ochosi> probably not that much
[23:02] <ochosi> yeah
[23:03] <ochosi> i can "frontport" all those things until friday latest
[23:03] <ochosi> if that's good enough for you
[23:03] <bluesabre> certainly
[23:04] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [find-cursor] r651 Add keyboard shortcut for xfce4-find-cursor... (by Simon Steinbeiß)
[23:04] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [thunar-uca-print] r652 Add custom action for thunar-print... (by Simon Steinbeiß)
[23:04] <bluesabre> Will probably plan 4.12.2 to go out wednesday anyway to get it in before FF
[23:07] <ochosi> sounds good
[23:07] <ochosi> so pushing the thunar-print script would be fine just to /usr/bin?
[23:07] <bluesabre> I think so
[23:08] <bluesabre> Unit193 might have a better preference
[23:08] <bluesabre> the resident packaging guru
[23:08] <ochosi> :)
[23:08] <ochosi> i updated the branch with the script so he has an easier time fixing it up
[23:10] <ochosi> Unit193: could you please review? https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/thunar-uca-print/+merge/339501 thanks!
[23:11] <ochosi> alrighty, now i just need to do another notifyd-release to rid us from the crashes
[23:12] <bluesabre> woo!
[23:12] <bluesabre> ochosi: looking forward to that one ;)
[23:12] <ochosi> plus brought back hyperlink support
[23:13] <ochosi> and added an option to clear the icon cache
[23:13] <ochosi> (and some more minor bugfixes)
[23:14] <bluesabre> all great news
[23:14] <bluesabre> got a nice pa-plug update coming in a day or so
[23:15] <bluesabre> biggest feature is auto-switching of the audio output for active streams
[23:17] <bluesabre> bionic is going to be a lovely lts :)
[23:17] <ochosi> weeee
[23:17] <ochosi> indeed
[23:28] <ochosi> nighty all
[23:30] <bluesabre> nighty ochosi