| tyhicks | hello | 16:33 |
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| tyhicks | #startmeeting | 16:33 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Feb 26 16:33:39 2018 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:33 |
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| tyhicks | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:33 |
| tyhicks | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:33 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:33 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements | ||
| tyhicks | The generalist role rotation for this week as follows: | 16:33 |
| tyhicks | CVE Triage: mdeslaur, Bug Triage: leosilva, Community: sarnold, Happy Place: ratliff, sbeattie | 16:34 |
| tyhicks | An all new version of the USN website (usn.ubuntu.com) will be deployed today | 16:34 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 16:34 |
| tyhicks | Please report a bug (https://github.com/canonical-websites/usn.ubuntu.com/issues/) for any issue that you discover | 16:34 |
| tyhicks | Simon Deziel (sdeziel) provided a debdiff for artful for unbound (LP: #1723900) | 16:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1723900 in unbound (Debian) "unbound systemctl (re)start fails due to Apparmor profile issue" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1723900 | 16:34 |
| tyhicks | Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :) | 16:34 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:34 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| tyhicks | jdstrand: you're up | 16:34 |
| xnox | tyhicks, will the new website mine cryptocurrencies in javascript? | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | hi! | 16:34 |
| * xnox giggles | 16:35 | |
| tyhicks | xnox: not yet but you never know what the future holds | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | completed: miscellaneous snappy conversations | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | completed: store reviews | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | completed: discuss/review PR 4741 - cmd/snap-update-ns: use recursive bind mounts for writable mimic (layouts) | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | completed: strict snaps on livecd implementation: PR 4714 (address review feedback) | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | progress: investigate more issues with minecraft and opening URLs | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | completed: ubuntu-security meeting | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | hah | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | wait :P | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | xnox: it's our new autopkgtest infrastructure | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | * be responsive to snapd PRs | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | - portals (getting close) | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | - layouts (landed, needs a little hardening for 2.32) | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | - steam-support (blocked on upstream feedback) | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | * strict mode snaps on livecd (close to landing) | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | * miscellaneous policy investigations and updates | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | * prepare for sprint | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | * lxd snap regression wrt confinement as have time | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | * create screencast interface as have time | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | ok, now mdeslaur you're up :) | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | you sure your paste buffer is empty now? ;) | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on triage this week | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | my password is ready to paste | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | I just pushed out a sensible-utils update | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | and I'm going to work on something new off the list | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | I also may have an embargoed issue | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | that's it from me | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: you're up | 16:36 |
| sbeattie | I'm in the happy place this week | 16:37 |
| * xnox thinks there is a glitch in jdstrand AI today, and a reboot is required. | 16:37 | |
| sbeattie | I'm double-checking gcc-7, gcc-6, and gcc-5 packages with retpoline enabled by default for x86 for sponsoring today. | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | I'm also examining a glibc built by said compilers | 16:38 |
| xnox | sbeattie, nice =) gcc-8 as well? it's not default, but is available. And some libraries are coming from gcc-8, and used in userspace. E.g. libitm1 -> opencryptoki, etc. | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | xnox: not yet, but yeah, I hsuld do that, too | 16:38 |
| xnox | cool | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | I need to add the documentation bits to a patch to hardening retpoline options to dpkg, to support hardening=[+-]retpoline and submit to debian | 16:39 |
| sbeattie | There's other bits and bobs related to retpoline to track down in prep for starting the rebuild | 16:40 |
| sbeattie | (documentation, double-checking upstream for bug fixes, etc) | 16:41 |
| sbeattie | I need to prep a bit for the sprint next week | 16:41 |
| sbeattie | that'll consume my week, surely. tyhicks, over to you | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | thanks | 16:41 |
| * xnox silently pings rbalint to read above status update. | 16:41 | |
| tyhicks | I've got sprint prep | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | I'll be cleaning up any messes found with the switch to the new USN website today | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | I need to finalize an LSM stacking demo | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | I've got an embargoed issue | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | I'll also be involved in the retpoline by default discussions/uploads/etc | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | oh, he's not around right now | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | sarnold: go ahea | 16:45 |
| sarnold | sorry, I missed this window entirely! :) | 16:47 |
| sarnold | I'm on community, short week for me this weeke | 16:47 |
| sarnold | I expect to review some apparmor patches, then return to brotli MIR, and responding to questions on the openjpeg2 bugs I opened | 16:48 |
| sarnold | and I ought to try to rebuild my poor little pandaboard before the trip. I don't know how realistic that is :( | 16:48 |
| sarnold | that's me, chrisccoulson? or ratliff_ if chrisccoulson is still out? (sorry, can't recall) | 16:49 |
| ratliff_ | vacation day for chris_ccoulson :) | 16:49 |
| ratliff_ | I'm in the happy place this week. | 16:50 |
| ratliff_ | I have sprint prep. I need to nurse the kpis along and touch up the tutorial. I have some internal tasks that I'm working on. | 16:50 |
| ratliff_ | leosilva: it's up to you | 16:50 |
| leosilva | I'm bug triage this week. | 16:50 |
| leosilva | I'm take a look in qpdf cves, some of them has just test as patch - weird. | 16:51 |
| leosilva | besides that I'll to my hunting | 16:51 |
| leosilva | tyhicks: it's back to you | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | thanks! | 16:51 |
| leosilva | s/to/do/ | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:51 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| tyhicks | The Ubuntu Security team suggests that contributors look into merging Debian security updates in community-supported packages. If you would like to help Ubuntu but are not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/ for available merges and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details on preparing Ubuntu security | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | updates. If you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-hardened. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:52 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| tyhicks | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, sarnold, ratliff, leosilva: Thanks! | 16:53 |
| tyhicks | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Feb 26 16:53:30 2018 UTC. | 16:53 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-02-26-16.33.moin.txt | 16:53 |
| sarnold | thanks tyhicks! | 16:53 |
| leosilva | tks tyhicks! | 16:53 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: thanks! | 16:53 |
| ratliff_ | thank you, tyhicks! | 16:53 |
| mdeslaur | thanks tyhicks! | 16:55 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: thanks! | 16:58 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ | 18:59 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 18:59 |
| bdmurray | o/ | 19:00 |
| tsimonq2 | Maybe dmb-ping? | 19:01 |
| tsimonq2 | sil2100: | 19:05 |
| tsimonq2 | grr | 19:05 |
| tsimonq2 | et al | 19:05 |
| tsimonq2 | Maybe take this to the ML? | 19:05 |
| cyphermox | what? | 19:06 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh hi, that's 3 | 19:06 |
| bdmurray | tsimonq2: grr? Didn't you just edit wiki page about your app today? | 19:06 |
| sil2100 | I guess we might have quorum for a meeting, right? | 19:06 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: grr = I messed up mobile keyboard | 19:07 |
| rbasak | I will have to run at any moment. | 19:08 |
| tsimonq2 | np | 19:08 |
| bdmurray | tsimonq2: okay | 19:09 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: I'm perfectly fine, I knew it was tight timing anyways :) | 19:09 |
| sil2100 | I'm a bit torn apart today, bdmurray, cyphermox - could one of you chair the meeting? | 19:09 |
| cyphermox | ok | 19:10 |
| micahg | I'm here as well | 19:10 |
| cyphermox | #startmeeting Developer Membership Board | 19:10 |
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| cyphermox | #topic Review of previous action items | 19:11 |
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| cyphermox | sil2100: to add budgie-extras to fossfreedom's PPU set | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | ^ that's done, cool | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | bdmurray: to handle mapreri's PPU-addition request | 19:11 |
| bdmurray | I submitted a bug report to that special project, let me have a look at it. | 19:12 |
| bdmurray | bug 1747093 | 19:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1747093 in ubuntu-community " [TB/DMB] Additional PPU for mapreri" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747093 | 19:12 |
| bdmurray | I'll ping a TB member about it. | 19:12 |
| mapreri | bad TB :> | 19:13 |
| tsimonq2 | heh | 19:13 |
| cyphermox | alrighty | 19:13 |
| cyphermox | #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications | 19:13 |
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| cyphermox | tsimonq2: the one issue I see though is that typically we ask to have a week's lead time to be able to review the application before doing the DMB meeting | 19:14 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes, I understand. | 19:14 |
| cyphermox | to be fair, let's make sure that's written down somewhere | 19:14 |
| tsimonq2 | It is, but it's a "should" ;) | 19:15 |
| rbasak | It's documented already at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess | 19:15 |
| rbasak | I don't think we need to have a strict policy on it, since we can vote with our...votes as needed. | 19:15 |
| cyphermox | any DMB members here opposing the review today? | 19:16 |
| micahg | I know there were some questions of viability of application by email already | 19:16 |
| bdmurray | I thought rbasak had asked a question about the application. | 19:16 |
| rbasak | I don't oppose, but I may end up being -1 subject to more information or time. | 19:16 |
| rbasak | If indeed I'm here to vote. | 19:16 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: That was solved I believe. | 19:16 |
| rbasak | I am still struggling to understand exactly what is blocking on you not being able to upload these packages. | 19:17 |
| bdmurray | tsimonq2: I think a response should have been sent to the original query even if it was addresed out of band. | 19:17 |
| rbasak | I found three uploads. Are there any more? | 19:17 |
| tsimonq2 | There's four packages in main. | 19:17 |
| tsimonq2 | rbasak: Yes, there's quite a bit more. | 19:17 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: Sure, apologies. | 19:18 |
| rbasak | tsimonq2: your third table seems to have uploads that you performed without sponsorship. | 19:18 |
| rbasak | Which is great for the DMB to review of course. | 19:18 |
| rbasak | It's useful to have in the application. | 19:18 |
| rbasak | But first I'd like to understand what you're being blocked in uploading. | 19:18 |
| tsimonq2 | I can't land the stack via the CI Train myself because four packages in the stack aree in main. | 19:19 |
| rbasak | And the best way to demonstrate that is with a list of sponsored uploads, so we can see your work, what sorts of uploads they were, who sponsored them, etc. | 19:19 |
| tsimonq2 | Sure, I understand. | 19:19 |
| tsimonq2 | For uploads, mitya57 and LocutusOfBorg sponsor things for me nowadays. | 19:21 |
| tsimonq2 | (With Qt.) | 19:21 |
| tsimonq2 | It's a bit hard to see who pressed the button on Bileto but it's been one of them. | 19:21 |
| rbasak | I found three uploads> FTR, I think three is fine for an experienced uploader helping with transitions etc. | 19:22 |
| rbasak | I haven't decided how you fit with that for myself yet though, because I'm not sure I understand (yet) your existing contributions. | 19:23 |
| tsimonq2 | OK; ftr I helped with the 5.7.1, 5.9.0, 5.9.1, 5.9.2 transitions in Debian and Ubuntu and 5.9.3 and 5.9.4 in Ubuntu only. | 19:23 |
| tsimonq2 | I did 5.9.3 and 5.9.4 myself, with 5.9.2 being mostly me | 19:24 |
| tsimonq2 | 5.9.0 was a joint effort. | 19:24 |
| rbasak | OK, but what specifically did that involve for you in Ubuntu? | 19:24 |
| tsimonq2 | 5.9.2+ was merging from Debian or doing Ubuntu-specific uploads. | 19:25 |
| tsimonq2 | 5.9.2 was mostly syncs while 5.9.3+ is Ubuntu-only with the whole stack. | 19:26 |
| tsimonq2 | This also involved the normal transition stuff like no-change rebuilds, etc. | 19:26 |
| tsimonq2 | I did some work with 5.7 but that was *mostly* Mirv and mitya57, both of which have eendorsed my application. | 19:27 |
| tsimonq2 | Does that answer your questions? | 19:27 |
| tsimonq2 | For the record, this is 5.9.4: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/311 | 19:28 |
| tsimonq2 | er | 19:28 |
| tsimonq2 | https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3113 | 19:28 |
| tsimonq2 | With the exception of one qttools upload, that was all me. | 19:28 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm not done yet either, qtwebengine is building and should be ready to land tobnight, as well as qtwebview. | 19:30 |
| tsimonq2 | *tonight | 19:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Is that all for questions? :) | 19:31 |
| tsimonq2 | (Hello?) | 19:33 |
| rbasak | Can I see some diffs of what you actually uploaded to Ubuntu with sponsorship? I'm not sure how to get that. | 19:33 |
| rbasak | (apart from the three I found) | 19:33 |
| tsimonq2 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.9.3+dfsg-0ubuntu1 | 19:34 |
| tsimonq2 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtsvg-opensource-src/5.9.3-0ubuntu1 | 19:35 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm on mobile so it's taking me a bit, but the 5.9.3 transition was sponsored via Bil | 19:36 |
| tsimonq2 | *Bileto | 19:36 |
| tsimonq2 | I believe LocutusOfBorg did the review and pressed the button. | 19:37 |
| tsimonq2 | 5.9.2 should be similar | 19:37 |
| tsimonq2 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.9.2+dfsg-4ubuntu1 | 19:38 |
| tsimonq2 | etc. | 19:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Would you like me to find additional uploads? | 19:38 |
| bdmurray | I personally need some more time to review specifically the diffs rbasak is requesting. | 19:39 |
| tsimonq2 | Sure, no problem. | 19:39 |
| * LocutusOfBorg is here in case you want some answer | 19:39 | |
| tsimonq2 | You can also find a lot on the ubuntu+1 branches of the packages here: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/qt// | 19:40 |
| bdmurray | To be clear I mean more time than I think we have in this meeting. | 19:40 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright, no problem at all. | 19:40 |
| tsimonq2 | Does the rest of the DMB concur? | 19:41 |
| rbasak | I agree with bdmurray | 19:41 |
| rbasak | Could you update your application so that we have a link to sponsored Ubuntu diffs please? | 19:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright. Can we continue this on the mailing list then? Thd d | 19:42 |
| rbasak | Yeah | 19:42 |
| rbasak | Continue on the ML, and we'll schedule another meeting when we're ready. | 19:42 |
| tsimonq2 | Sure. | 19:42 |
| tsimonq2 | Thanks everyone, | 19:42 |
| rbasak | That diff is one of the three I had found :) | 19:42 |
| tsimonq2 | OK ;) | 19:43 |
| cyphermox | bdmurray: alright | 19:44 |
| bdmurray | tsimonq2: So to ease the process I think you could provide us specific links to diffs showing your work. | 19:44 |
| cyphermox | there's a core dev app for next month, yikes | 19:44 |
| cyphermox | let's go the rest of this review on the ML, though | 19:45 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: Sure. | 19:45 |
| cyphermox | #topic AOB? | 19:45 |
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| bdmurray | Going back in time - I goofed about the PPU request and didn't email the TB. | 19:45 |
| bdmurray | I'll fix that today. | 19:45 |
| mapreri | put an #action to review my ppu bug next time again? | 19:46 |
| cyphermox | mapreri: alrady there. | 19:46 |
| cyphermox | #action bdmurray to email the TB about mapreri's PPU. | 19:46 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bdmurray to email the TB about mapreri's PPU. | 19:46 |
| cyphermox | anything else? | 19:46 |
| mapreri | ta :) | 19:46 |
| bdmurray | I don't think so. | 19:47 |
| * rbasak has to run | 19:47 | |
| cyphermox | ok, let's wrap this up | 19:47 |
| cyphermox | who's next chair? | 19:47 |
| sil2100 | I can | 19:47 |
| cyphermox | ack | 19:47 |
| cyphermox | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Feb 26 19:47:53 2018 UTC. | 19:47 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-02-26-19.10.moin.txt | 19:47 |
| cyphermox | thanks everyone! | 19:47 |
| bdmurray | cyphermox: thank you for chairing | 19:48 |
| sil2100 | Thanks! | 19:48 |
| mapreri | bdmurray: can't you just add ~techboard to the bug subscribers? | 19:48 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: Er, so uploads that I have upload access to and were sponsored + stuff in main, or just stuff in main? | 19:48 |
| sil2100 | cyphermox: thanks for chairing :) | 19:48 |
| tsimonq2 | Thanks everyone! Much appreciated :) | 19:48 |
| bdmurray | mapreri: That's not what our documentation regarding the process says. | 19:48 |
| mapreri | bdmurray: ok (just to me it feels weird to file a bug the target people won't receive and then manually mail *shrug*) | 19:49 |
| bdmurray | tsimonq2: uploads which you have had sponsored for the four additional packages for which you are requesting upload rights | 19:50 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: Sure, will do, thanks! | 19:50 |
| rbasak | bdmurray, mapreri: it's not in the process because we can't actually do it (ACL restriction). | 22:18 |
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