[00:00] <macca> I think it just goes into sleep mode
[00:00] <ubuntu1> TJ-:   I'm not very saavy with terminology but I'm just looking for a simple way to tab contents in a sub folder without puking it's content out into the place it's linked
[00:01] <ubuntu1> The stupid sub dir only exists for organization , but is causing functional problems for apache
[00:01] <TJ-> pirx: usually it's in the power settings, possibly via a battery icon in the taskbar
[00:04] <macca> does anyone know how to change the firefox icon to the nice blue quantum one?
[00:07] <macca> can anyone tell me where the launcher icons are set?
[00:07] <cowsay> hey guys .. would someone be able to run an apt command for me?  I'm on Solus and do not have apt available but I need some package URLs  for my Ubuntu server which no longer has functioning networking
[00:08] <cowsay> the command:  sudo apt-get -qq --print-uris install build-essential linux-headers-3.19.0-84-generic | cut -d\' -f 2 > urls.txt
[00:09] <blitzkraft> macca: On the desktop, you can right click and set icon.
[00:10] <macca> I need to put the icon on the desktop first it's using the old firefox icon after I updated to quantum
[00:11] <macca> maybe drag it onto the desktop would that work?
[00:11] <macca> Thanks for the answer btw :)
[00:11] <brainwash> macca: check in /usr/share/applications
[00:11] <macca> cheers
[00:12] <brainwash> the quantum icon isn't blue though
[00:12] <brainwash> that's the firefox nightly icon I think
[00:13] <brainwash> see https://wiki.mozilla.org/Nightly
[00:14] <TJ-> macca: I use this in the .desktop file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ymVrb3q8rm/
[00:15] <TJ-> macca: I've got it installed at /opt/mozilla/firefox/nightly/ so adjust path to suit
[00:15] <macca> The icons are in there but nothing in properties to change them
[00:16] <TJ-> macca: you have to edit the .desktop file; it's with in /usr/share/applications/ /usr/local/share/applications/ or possibly $HOME/.local/share/applications/
[00:17] <macca> many thanks
[00:20] <macca> found it using "locate firefox.desktop"
[00:20] <macca> thanks guys
[00:25] <sere> im trying to point grub to my sd card since i cant boot from the bios : how can i find out the hardware address like (hd0, 0) of the sd.
[00:25] <sere> that grub uses
[00:27] <TJ-> sere: that depends on what order the system firmware/BIOS has listed the devices
[00:29] <macca> gonna reboot to see if my fix worked brb
[00:29] <macca> the blue icon is in Icon=/opt/firefox/browser/chrome/icons/default/default128.png
[00:31] <bcx> I can't set sort-directories-first neither with a vendor override (org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser) nor with a dconf local profile keyfile (org/gtk/settings/file-chooser). Anyone managed to configure it with any technique or is it now only possible by using interactive/graphic applications ?
[00:32] <sere> TJ- ok cool i will play with it.. all i need to do is boot it and im good.. i guess i could reinstall and boot off usb
[00:33] <macca> wtg thanks guys it's lovely blue icon now :P
[00:35] <TJ-> sere: does the system firmware not boot into GRUB on the SD card?
[00:35] <macca> did you try holding down shift while you booted?
[00:36] <macca> that should open grub I think
[00:36] <TJ-> macca: it's Escape now, and it needs tapping not holding down (due to EFI)
[00:36] <madara> hello
[00:37] <macca> things change every blooming day lol
[00:37] <macca> shift works for me
[00:37] <TJ-> macca: it'll work on BIOS but not for EFI, whereas Escape works for both
[00:37] <macca> ok thanks
[00:38] <macca> never hurts to learn
[00:38] <madara> can someone help me to use gnome on ubuntu, i don't now how to do it please
[00:38] <TJ-> macca: this is because on a BIOS boot GRUB can directly read the I/O port where the keyboard status bits for Shift/Alt/Ctrl are stored to get their state, but EFI services don't provide that access
[00:38] <TJ-> EFI only provides the option to read keyup/keydown events, not meta-keys
[00:39] <macca> thanks
[00:39] <OerHeks> bcx, there is such option, in 17.10/gnome
[00:40] <OerHeks> https://imgur.com/a/FiOcm
[00:40] <madara> I don't know how KDE is running on my system
[00:42] <bcx> OerHeks: indeed, what I am trying to do is to set it non-interactively and without gnome running, vendor override fail because it's a relocatable but dconf local override should do the work but strangely doesn't ...
[00:42] <macca> madara you could try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:42] <madara> ok macca I will try it now, thnks
[00:46] <OerHeks> bcx, those org. settings does not influence tty, you will need to do that manually
[00:49] <macca> can anyone tell me if using /msg nickserve identify **** is a permanent thing here
[00:51] <DiecastMessiah> macca: what IRC program ya using??
[00:51] <OerHeks> macca, no. you need to identify any new session, else store it in your irc client
[00:51] <macca> xchat
[00:51] <OerHeks> ugh, xchat is old, no longer under development
[00:51] <Guest52278> irssi reporting in
[00:51] <jdr> HexChat is nice for a gui
[00:52] <macca> any recommendations for something better?
[00:52] <OerHeks> hexchat is a nice clone, indeed
[00:52] <macca> I used to use mirc many years ago
[00:52] <jdr> scripts/link-vmlinux.sh: line 70: 28146 Killed                  ${LD} ${LDFLAGS} -r -o ${1} ${objects}
[00:52] <jdr> Makefile:1000: recipe for target 'vmlinux' failed
[00:52] <jdr> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 137
[00:52] <macca> haven't irced for years
[00:52] <jdr> 3rd time ive tried compiling this kernel
[00:52] <macca> seems to be working jdr :)
[00:53] <DiecastMessiah> macca: ok not sure but i think it under the server connection window. there a place to put in you password.. and it will idetify everytime for you when you connect to freenode
[00:53] <macca> thanks
[00:53] <DiecastMessiah> If not there .. there maybe a place in the menu identiies
[00:54] <macca> neither of which menu appears on this xchat lol I just installed it under xchat-gnome
[00:55] <macca> needs a little exploring
[00:56] <macca> I'm beginning to think I need a new client already this is slow as a wet weekend
[00:57] <macca> but I guess it's working I'm beginning to learn not to try fixing things that work on ubuntu
[00:57] <DiecastMessiah> is there servers?
[00:57] <macca> nope it has Network
[00:58] <macca> and under that is connect or disconnect
[00:58] <macca> doesn't have a names list even
[00:59] <jrgilman> Any recommendations for software that can recordto a GIF simply?
[00:59] <DiecastMessiah> there should be a area with the freenode server.. could be settings or something .. but somewhere alone with the servers you can connect .. you should have a space to put a password
[00:59] <macca> no worries it will turn up eventually
[00:59] <DiecastMessiah> along**
[01:00] <macca> wish it had a names list though
[01:00] <macca> is kvirc any good?
[01:01] <DiecastMessiah> I like Hex-chat.. but it seem to have freezing problems with channel that have alot of users ..
[01:01] <macca> it only has a tiny window though doesn't it?
[01:01] <macca> sort of like the old icq window
[01:02] <TJ-> macca: if you're using xchat, then this might help. See the "Configuring Xchat and Connecting to a Server", right-side dialog... you'd put your nickserv identify password in the "Nickserv password" text box  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[01:02] <macca> thanks
[01:02]  * TJ- uses the ncurses based weechat
[01:03] <DiecastMessiah> I just started with weechat today.. did i reinstall of everything.
[01:03] <macca> I'll try rejoining and see what happens
[01:04] <DiecastMessiah> oops i guess we are getting offtopic here
[01:04] <macca> ok no worries it's done it all by itself
[01:05] <DiecastMessiah> \m/ right on
[01:05] <macca> :)
[01:06] <macca> I remember back in the day when the lag was up to five minutes
[01:06] <macca> still used it though
[01:08] <macca> brb going to try a different client
[01:14] <DiecastMessiah> ok so i think i getting a lead on my video problems..it seem i have the drivers working right nvidia-340 driver for a nvidia 310m chip .. it a optimus type.. but i been reading around and i think why some 3d acc stuff works and other don't is because it overwriting glib6 .. seems other had the problem even back on ubuntu 9 or 10... anyway https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Vpd7dQXVPn/ i think this is wrong should
[01:14] <DiecastMessiah> only be 2 things listed
[01:16] <DiecastMessiah> if thats the case i have no idea what to do about it
[01:19] <macca> oh well at least xchat works I tried two others one was like rocket science to get started and the other wouldn't start at all
[01:25] <DualFailure> Hi There fellow humans
[01:25] <DualFailure> I am writing to enquire upon the nature of my dual boot failure, could anyone offer some assistance?
[01:26] <TJ-> Data! We need data! :)
[01:31] <ExploitedKernel> Does anyone know if there should be any ports open on Ubuntu, that are not already defaulted blocked? like I know how Windows has port 445, unless its blocked. Does Ubuntu Have any that should be blocked?
[01:31] <ExploitedKernel> and if so How to block them
[01:33] <DiecastMessiah> ExploitedKernel: is for just normal desktop uses ?? or you running server or anything?
[01:33] <joeb3_> ExploitedKernel: use ufw.  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-a-firewall-with-ufw-on-an-ubuntu-and-debian-cloud-server
[01:34] <ExploitedKernel> Just running in as a Desktop
[01:35] <joeb3_> desktops can use gufw.
[01:35] <DiecastMessiah> ExploitedKernel: k well if you have a router i would just make sure there are no open or forward ports..
[01:35] <ExploitedKernel> k
[01:35] <ExploitedKernel> k
[01:37] <DiecastMessiah> I am not 100% you may want a software firewall to.. but I trust my hardware firewall
[01:38] <macca_> looks like I'm doomed to use xchat nothing else seems to work lol
[01:38] <joeb3_> macca_: hexchat?
[01:38] <DiecastMessiah> when you are installing the different programs are you using apt-get in termial or the ubuntu software thing
[01:39] <macca_> had some problems getting hexchat to work, I'm feeling too lazy to work it out
[01:39] <macca_> perhaps tomorrow will do hehe
[01:39] <macca_> this is working at least I just miss the name list for some reason
[01:40] <TJ-> macca_: it won't help, not with over 1400 users in here!
[01:40] <macca_> aaaaah good point
[01:40] <Bashing-om> macca_: Confortable in terminal ? try the irssi irc client .
[01:40] <DiecastMessiah> with x-chat i think there is a button that pops up a window with the users .. but yeah it not very helpful you see the userlist anyway
[01:41] <macca_> I will check it out Bashing but later on it's time for dinner almost
[01:41] <macca_> yeah I can live without it
[01:42] <dassouki> is virtual box still the best vm to try ubuntu on an osx partition?
[01:42] <macca_> I wish I could rid myself of nextcloud completely that was a disaster for me
[01:42] <macca_> keeps rearing it's ugly head
[01:43] <macca_> tried purging it but it still appears on syslog using up my processor
[01:44] <macca_> must be in one of the apache files I guess
[01:45] <macca_> virtualbox works great on highsierra for me
[01:45] <macca_> just remember to close it before you shut down
[01:45] <u_> hi
[01:46] <DiecastMessiah> Hey,,,, U :)
[01:47] <macca_> anyone know where I can get a list of irc commannds?
[01:47] <nlogex3772> how do i stop screen flickering with intel onboard video (i5 4570)?
[01:48] <DiecastMessiah> macca this one seem to have a good set
[01:48] <DiecastMessiah> https://gist.github.com/xero/2d6e4b061b4ecbeb9f99
[01:48] <macca_> have to tried stopping hardware acceleration
[01:48] <macca_> thanks diecast
[01:48] <DiecastMessiah> not every command but all the goodies lol
[01:49] <macca_> I used to know them
[01:49] <macca_> fond memories of using mirc as a weapon lol
[01:49] <macca_> many years ago
[01:50] <DiecastMessiah> yeah me to... I was on dalnet all the time .. hitting the fileservers
[01:50] <macca_> haha
[01:51] <macca_> I lurked on #wasteland for many years
[01:51] <DiecastMessiah> where i got all my music and games lol but on a old 14.4 dailup modem
[01:51] <macca_> a lot of the old servers have vanished
[01:51] <DiecastMessiah> took 20 to 30 mins to get A song lol
[01:51] <macca_> yep been there
[01:51] <macca_> I used to have to make a long distance call to connect, cost me a fortune
[01:52] <macca_> still I'm glad she's an ex now
[01:52] <DiecastMessiah> oops forgot not in offtopic channel looks around well op hasn't beaten us yet
[01:53] <nlogex3772> macca_: yes, with no accel it's slow to the point of freezing every couple of seconds, with accel on there is flickering and corruption
[01:53] <macca_> ooh are there rules
[01:53] <macca_> I saw an article on it but I just can't remember where
[01:54] <pengwen_> Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR software that can be applied to a pdf?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> pengwen_, a single software?  no idea.  but it is super easy to output/print a file to .pdf format
[01:54] <macca_> I had high contrast enabled on chrome and couldn't see a thing on youtube etc
[01:55] <macca_> and googling for that is where I saw the accelaration thing
[01:56] <pengwen_> cfhowlett, I have a scanned pdf that someone else sent me.  I'd like to copy and paste text from it, but it wasn't scanned with ocr
[01:56] <cfhowlett> so you're trying to ocr scan a .pdf, correct?
[01:57] <macca_> you could maybe cut a jpg with firefox if thats helpful
[01:57] <pengwen_> cfhowlett, i'm able to print it to paper, and then scan it if it helps.  what i'd like to do is convert an existing pdf to a searchable format.  perhaps "ocr" isn't the right term for that
[01:58] <pengwen_> in fact, i don't even care if it's search-able.  what I would like to be able to do is copy text from the pdf, and then paste it elsewhere so I can edit it
[01:59] <macca_> do you have the pdf file or just the scan pengwen?
[01:59] <cfhowlett> pengwen_, this?  https://www.howtogeek.com/228531/how-to-convert-a-pdf-file-to-editable-text-using-the-command-line-in-linux/
[01:59] <pengwen_> macca_, I have the pdf
[02:00] <macca_> must be an open source pdf editor around
[02:02] <macca_> libre office draw edits pdf's
[02:03] <pengwen_> I'm going to give tesseract a shot.  I'll report back in a few
[02:03] <pengwen_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[02:05] <u_> I have ubuntu 16.04 , I installed some updates today then the computer have been restart suddenly after that ubuntu be not able to boot , I got grub screen only .
[02:06] <u_> How I can fix that ? I'm using live version now .
[02:09] <u_> _systemd_is_evil Why it is evil?
[02:09] <gt8ost4l> does aanybody know how use sudo gedit on ubuntu 17.10?
[02:10] <u_> Guys , anyone can help ? How I can boot from grub screen ?
[02:10] <cfhowlett> gt8ost4l, yes.  sudo gedit filename
[02:10] <macca_> u_ doesn't it have a recover mode in grub
[02:11] <macca_> you could maybe try to run update again in there
[02:11] <gt8ost4l> cfhowlett:i cant do that i get an error!
[02:11] <cfhowlett> !details | gt8ost4l
[02:11] <gt8ost4l> cfhowlett:okay let me break it down in words!
[02:12] <gt8ost4l> cfhowlett:im trying to change the grub file since ubuntu freezes without the grub file command.
[02:13] <gt8ost4l> ill show it to you https://askubuntu.com/questions/761706/ubuntu-15-10-and-16-04-keep-freezing-randomly
[02:13] <macca_> gt8lost41 maybe if you try ksudo it will work
[02:14] <pengwen_> u_, take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:14] <u_> ok
[02:14] <pengwen_> you may have to reinstall the bootloader
[02:14] <gt8ost4l> bashing-om what was the command again to use to get priviledges
[02:15] <macca_> sudo su
[02:15] <macca_> sorry for butting in
[02:16] <u_> pengwen_ What do you think about this >> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[02:17] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Try as sudo -H gedit <file> // Be aware I am aware that sudo was depreciated at some point for pkexec .
[02:18] <cfhowlett> eh?  Bashing-om wasn't that the opposite?  I understood that pkexec was the less preferred option.
[02:18] <gt8ost4l> bashing-om you gave me the link the other day didnt you archieve it?
[02:19] <gt8ost4l> it was on the archlinux forums
[02:19] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Well, I still prefer "sudo" // and I did make some changes to the system (16.04) to keep using it .
[02:20] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: My attention span is real short . You will have to give me more context to jog my memory .
[02:22] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: wayland ?
[02:22] <pengwen_> u_, that looks fine too.  If it's your computer and you know how many partitions are there, you probably don't need to do the first couple of steps
[02:22] <gt8ost4l> bashing om:yes wayland
[02:22] <u_> ok
[02:22] <u_>  pengwen_ thNKS
[02:23] <u_>  pengwen_ *thanks
[02:23] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: ' xhost +si:localuser:root ' ?
[02:23] <gt8ost4l> bashing om:yes
[02:23] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: :)
[02:24] <pengwen_> u_, what is the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:24] <u_> wait
[02:24] <gt8ost4l> bashing om can you give me a link to thee page again?
[02:25] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: https://askubuntu.com/questions/961967/why-dont-gksu-gksudo-work-with-wayland ??
[02:25] <u_>  pengwen_ this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wkxc4zK3wN/
[02:27] <pengwen_> u_, ok, so you should be able to reinstall grub with typing in "grub-install /dev/sda"
[02:27] <aliljet> this seems a bit weird, but why does the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus read almost like an advertisement?
[02:28] <u_> I got error : grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[02:28] <u_> pengwen_ I got error : grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[02:28] <cfhowlett> aliljet, I don't see it.  This reads in the same style as other Ubuntu documents.
[02:28] <pengwen_> u_, gotcha.  so now try going through the four steps where you mount /dev/sda onto a folder, and then include those four folders mounted with the -bind command
[02:29] <u_> ok
[02:29] <gt8ost4l> bashing om:thanks it worked like a charm!
[02:29] <aliljet> cfhowlett: well, I guess I'm trying to understand the real value of antivirus solutions in a linux environment and that only really discusses why you need antivirus and none of the countervailing arguments
[02:30] <u_> pengwen_ could you give me the command ?
[02:32] <pengwen_> u_, i am looking at the repair instructions you found.  I don't understand why it is important to include the partition number
[02:33] <pengwen_> u_, i think the right thing to do is "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt" but their instructions seem to indicate you should be typing "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"
[02:33] <cfhowlett> because a bootloader on the wrong partition won't load?
[02:33] <pengwen_> cfhowlett, his bootloader should be on sda1, right?
[02:34] <cfhowlett> mine isn't.  depends on the setup
[02:34] <pengwen_> cfhowlett, look at the earlier post: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wkxc4zK3wN/
[02:34] <macca_> I think it depends on the initial install which partition is the active linux one
[02:34] <macca_> mines on sda6
[02:36] <macca_> can anyone tell me how to search files in a directory for text strings please
[02:36] <pengwen_> in this case, sda1 is an EFI file system (with ~500Mb of storage).  sda2 is a linux filesystem (with ~95Gb of storage).  and sda3 is a Linux swap.  I am pretty sure this one should be sda1 for the bootloader
[02:37] <pengwen_> macca_, "find . -name "start_of_file_string*""
[02:37] <macca_> thanks pengwen
[02:37] <pengwen_> macca_, if you want to find every pdf file, search for "find . -name "*.pdf"
[02:38] <macca_> I'm trying to find mentions of nextcloud in my apache2 conf files
[02:39] <macca_> I'll give it a shot do I use the quotation marks?
[02:39] <pengwen_> macca_, yeah, you would type something like the following: >> find . -name "*.pdf"
[02:39] <macca_> cheers
[02:39] <pengwen_> macca_, the string you are searching for goes inside the quotes
[02:40] <pengwen_> huh.  i wonder if u_ came up with something
[02:41] <macca_> didn't find a thing do I need to run the command inside the directory?
[02:47] <macca_> just for interest sake pengwen grep -r "sometext" * worked for me
[02:50] <macca_> now I'll see if I've killed off nextcloud or the entire system lol brb I hope
[02:51] <pengwen_> macca_ ty
[02:54] <mtdms> i try to unzip joomla but i cant i dont know why
[02:54] <mtdms> unzip:  cannot find or open Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip, Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip.zip or Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip.ZIP.
[02:55] <mtdms> i put it in the /var/www/html
[02:55] <mtdms> i did this command: unzip Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip
[02:56] <mtdms> do you know why?
[02:56] <macca> try putting ./something.zip
[02:57] <macca> presuming you're in the same directory
[02:59] <mtdms> unzip:  cannot find or open ./Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip
[03:00] <macca> must be a typo
[03:00] <macca> do an ls and cut and paste the name
[03:03] <macca> mtdms, maybe "or open" means the file is corrupt
[03:04] <mtdms> i downloaded from joomla site
[03:04] <Deragon> How does one gets his debian package approved for the universe repository.  Oddly, I fail to find any good documentation on the web about this.
[03:04] <mtdms> i will download it again
[03:04] <cfhowlett> Deragon, ask #debian??
[03:04] <mtdms> thanks a lot
[03:04] <macca> yep I would try that
[03:05] <mtdms> i got it
[03:05] <mtdms> you know? i unzip from the download directory
[03:05] <mtdms> and it was possible
[03:06] <mtdms> now im gonna move the directories to the html directory
[03:06] <mtdms> thanks a lot
[03:06] <macca> cool
[03:06] <mtdms> it is the first time i try joomla, have you tried it? is it good?
[03:06] <macca> no idea
[03:10] <Deragon> Ah... universe is not Ubuntu specific, but Debian... I did not know.
[03:12] <macca> lot's of trial and error with open source
[03:20] <macca> can anyone tell me if 'snap' has some sort of purge option it's not removing things entirely for me
[03:23] <macca> if anyone likes listening to music, I can recommend installing spotify.  Hoping I'm allowed to say that
[03:24] <tomcres> macca, it's in the Ubuntu Software app, so I don't see why not
[03:24] <macca> cool :)
[03:25] <macca> not sure if adverising is banned in here
[03:26] <cfhowlett> it is banned.
[03:26] <macca> thought it might have been
[03:26] <cfhowlett> but yes, you can give opinions. thanks!
[03:26] <macca> :)
[03:26] <macca> I don't stand to gain anything if someone uses it
[03:27] <macca> I better read the guidelines
[03:28] <slimetrap> hey im using ubuntu next and all the sudden i cannot hold alt + letters to get the special accent versions for polish layout anymore after like 6 months of using it like this
[03:29] <Bashing-om> !18.04 | slimetrap
[03:30] <slimetrap> ubottu, oh god ho wdo i upgrade
[03:31] <slimetrap> er Bashing-om
[03:31] <cfhowlett> you do realize you are asking to upgrade to an unreleased, unsupported beta version, slimetrap?
[03:31] <slimetrap> oh well ok ???
[03:31] <slimetrap> someone linked me to it in response to my question i just figured i had to upgrade
[03:32] <cfhowlett> read first.  upgrade later.  the point made was that BB is not supported or discussed in this channel.  if you are on BB, go to #ubuntu+1 for support
[03:34] <macca> I run apt update, then apt list --upgradable religiously when I fire up my computer
[03:36] <macca> is it possible to run apt upgrade selectively?
[03:41] <amagora> Hello
[03:42] <amagora> 1:
[03:42] <amagora> 1
[03:58] <gt8ost4l> can anybody help me i cant installsoftware from the command line i keep fgetting 404 errors?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: show us ' cat /etc/issue ' .
[04:02] <gt8ost4l> bashing om even the quotes?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: No quotes .. just the output of that terminal command .
[04:07] <gt8ost4l> Ubuntu 17.10 \n \l
[04:08] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: K; Next is pastebin the output of ' sudo apt update ' .
[04:11] <gt8ost4l> https://pastebin.com/qHYQ1jF0
[04:13] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: See: http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-davidsansome/clementine/ubuntu/dists/ . Not supported in artful .
[04:14] <gt8ost4l> bashing-om:can i revert to a previousversion  in the ppa?
[04:15] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: That is ill advised to mix repos ; will break your system . Mught talk to the PPA maintainer and see IF they will work to support a short term release .
[04:16] <Bashing-om> might*
[04:17] <tomcres> clementine is in the official repos. You might consider just abandoning the PPA altogether.
[04:17] <Bashing-om> tomcres: :)
[04:18] <Bashing-om> !info clementine artful
[04:18] <gt8ost4l> bashing-om:how do i revert to 17.04 for all the software in he sources file?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: nope .. no can do .
[04:19] <Bashing-om> !zesty | gt8ost4l
[04:20] <gt8ost4l> bashing-om: what about 16.04?
[04:23] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Do not mix repos . https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian .
[04:25] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: As tomcres advises, why not install from the software repo ?
[04:25] <ghostnik11> please help me my ubuntu 16.04 just crashed while it was in an update and the only thing i can get into is my android-x86 partition
[04:26] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: Can you boot a recovery kernel from the grub boot menu ?
[04:26] <ghostnik11> no it doesn't even give me the option Bashing-om i am freaking out
[04:27] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om i have so much school stuff on that section and it just froze for like 4 to 5 minutes so i decided to just turn it off b/c nothing was moving and i am paying for interternet time in a hotel
[04:28] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: What results when you do attempt to boot ? How far does the system get ?
[04:29] <ghostnik11> i can get grub for android x86 but when i click on ubuntu from windows grub loader it just puts me into android x86
[04:29] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om is it really lost forever
[04:31] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: With a liveUSB, time and effort .. linux is always fixable .
[04:31] <Curi0> I created an Ubuntu container using debootstrap and systemd-nspawn but what is the default login ?
[04:31] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om i don't have such a chance b/c i am not home, i am outside the states where internet is not reliable
[04:31] <Curi0> i tried root and toor it didn't work
[04:32] <Flannel> and with a liveCD, you can grab your files even if you decide to reinstall instead of fix the install.
[04:32] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om i need to find out the steps: now so i can download them and then try them while i am here b/c i won't be back home till june
[04:33] <ghostnik11> Flannel yeah but i am running ubuntu 16.04 on a asus t100 = which is like a highly customizable system, i had certain things in it to make it function specifically with the asus t100 b/c asus isn't friendly with linux
[04:34] <ghostnik11> Flannel its not just the files but the whole system that i want back the exact way it is
[04:34] <ghostnik11> Flannel i should have never told it to update
[04:34] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: Sorry, I do not know android at all - presently I can not offer a solution without a live environment to work from .
[04:35] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om, well its not even android, b/c android uses grub, so i have a grub but i would have to tell grub where the system is located on the disk
[04:36] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: As above, if you can boot to the grub boot menu we "might" be able to work something out .
[04:36] <CharlieMurphy> can Ubuntu be run from an android phone (to replace the phone ui and still use phone)
[04:37] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om or is it possible to tell the windows boot loader where it is? b/c when it first comes up i just hit esc and i usually get option for ubuntu and uefi os and when i select ubuntu it brings me to grub 2.0 with options of ubuntu 16.04 and the kernel
[04:38] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: I have no EFI experience .. can not advise on how to get to to grub's boot menu .
[04:39] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om this is some BS!! i can't believe that this happened
[04:41] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: I feel for you // But until you can boot to something we can work from, not a thing I can do .
[04:41] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om the thing i don't get is that i installed android x86 from ubuntu 16.04 so i am able to see android so that must mean that my ubuntu is somewhat alive even for a little to see if i could undo the bad upgrade that crashed
[04:42] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om okay once i am in the grub 2.0 menu for android is there a way i can tell it to do a search for ubuntu partition?
[04:43] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: Can not say as I do not know android .
[04:45] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om if i load a live boot what would i then have to do?
[04:45] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: set up a full change root and complete the update .
[04:47] <Bashing-om> !chroot | ghostnik11
[04:48] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om okay how can i do that b/c when i get back to my apartment i can make a live usb then do it but i need instructions to download now (like stuff to read that will walk me through the steps b/c i am on an island with horrible internet) so at my apartment i have no internet = meaning everything will have to be done off line
[04:49] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om okay i saved that webpage, anything eles?
[04:50] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om is there any way i can sign into grub from network?
[04:51] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om the thing also was that i wasn't even downloading anything. i was just at the part where it installs everything and waiting for it to finish while i was surfing the net
[04:52] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: While there is a way - I have never attempted.. no idea what will be needed to access grub from the network ,
[04:52] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om how?
[04:54] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om also with ubuntu i had many different kernel versions installed so is it possible to see if i would be able to get to one of them since the update was running in kernel 4.14?
[04:56] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: If you can get to grub's boot menu .. sure ! try and boot an older kernel ir a recovery kernel .
[04:57] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om then what after that
[04:57] <Bashing-om> ir/or*
[04:58] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om okay i will sign out of internet and see if i can get to a recovery
[04:59] <pengwen_> ghostnik11, can you reinstall grub?  i wouldn't trust windows boot loader to be of any use
[04:59] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om sorry i was just kicked off of the wifi - b/c they have a limit on how many can sign into it
[04:59] <ghostnik11> at the same time
[04:59] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ how can i get to reinstall grub? where can i download it and put on a live cd?
[05:00] <pengwen_> ghostnik11, grub will be on your live cd.  Look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:00] <pengwen_> ghostnik11, what you're trying to do is perform a boot-repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:01] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ i will try that once i get back to my apartment and hopefully it will install back grub
[05:01] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: Understand . Getting the system functional depends on what is broke . We find that by what happens and what we can ask if the system .
[05:01] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ Bashing-om one sec i will sign out of internet and try to restart the tablet and see if i can hold down shift and see if grub appears
[05:01] <pengwen_> ghostnik11, if you have a device with you (and i assume you are connected to the internet now), then it wouldn't hurt to make sure you have a good flash on your usb stick
[05:02] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ i have nothing on me but my cell phone and the tablet
[05:02] <pengwen_> ghostnik11, gotcha
[05:02] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ and i have class in the morning and its midnight right now
[05:02] <pengwen_> hmmm ... a tablet that doesn't like ubuntu
[05:03] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: EFI system is the escape key - spammed - to get grub;s attention .
[05:09] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ Bashing-om okay i can't get into it. only the grub menu for android so i will have to try the live cd method thanks for all the help and i will let you guys know how it goes from here. i might be technically screwed till i get back home in june
[05:10] <pengwen_> ghostnik11, what kind of tablet do you have?  how did you burn your iso onto a stick?
[05:10] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ Bashing-om i have to go back to my apartment and sleep so i can get to class tomorrow thanks for all the help
[05:11] <pengwen_> ghostnik11, getting to class is more important than trying to fix your tablet.  learning can still happen without an internet device.  ;)
[05:11] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ i have an asus t100taf which isn't suppose to work with ubuntu but thanks to an amazing group of users from google + they got it working with ubuntu
[05:11] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: When you are back here --- we are here to help .
[05:11] <ghostnik11> pengwen_ yeah i know, thanks again. take care and have a good night everyone Bashing-om
[05:11] <mtdms> i hate windows or mac, i love linux, but i need to do some brochures
[05:11] <mtdms> for a business
[05:11] <mtdms> its simple design, what open source do you recommend?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> mtdms: libreoffice
[05:12] <pengwen_> brochures?
[05:12] <mtdms> libreOfficeDraw?
[05:12] <mtdms> advertising
[05:12] <mtdms> yes
[05:12] <mtdms> its simple design
[05:13] <pengwen_> if it was done in windows, would you be using power point?
[05:13] <mtdms> libreOfficeDraw? because i dont gimp
[05:13] <pengwen_> all of my stuff is done in LateX
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> mtdms: you can do alot in libreoffice
[05:14] <mtdms> i see
[05:14] <mtdms> thats right libreoffice
[05:14] <mtdms> i will try
[05:14] <mtdms> its a simple design, because if a need really good one i hire a desginer
[05:14] <mtdms> thanks a lot
[05:14] <mtdms> thanks my friends
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> mtdms: there is a helpfull #libreoffice channel when your stuck
[05:15] <mtdms> thanks
[05:16] <mtdms> just i need to export pdf , because they open in linux or mac
[05:16] <mtdms> the customer
[05:16] <mtdms> s
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> mtdms: you can save projects in all kinds of formats
[05:18] <mtdms> im using right now the libreoffice draw, i like it, i love open source, i dont know why some software doesnt run on it
[05:18] <mtdms> some kind of software
[05:19] <mtdms> for example i use in windows aspel, in mexico is for business management
[05:19] <mtdms> but there is not for linux
[05:19] <mtdms> i think maybe i will try virtual box, but i dont think it can run it
[05:20] <mtdms> or sometimes i needed to see web cameras for business and only was running on internet explorer, so i prefer android in that kinda of situation
[05:20] <mtdms> but anyway there is always a solution, im happy with open source
[05:21] <mtdms> libreoffice draw is like a corel draw right? similar
[05:21] <mtdms> i can see it
[05:21] <mtdms> i like it
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> mtdms: opening libreoffice main icon, will let you chooce whats best for you
[05:27] <mtdms> im using right now libre office draw after you told me and i like it, thanks
[05:27] <mtdms> it was useful for me
[05:28] <mtdms> i will read later some books for master it
[05:29] <Guest13758> Something on my system is causing minor freezes when I click on browsers and random applications. How can I identify what is doing that?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest13758: wich ubuntu version?
[05:30] <styles_> I'm running Debian 8
[05:31] <dax> Then you probably want to /join #debian, since they support Debian and we don't (and we support Ubuntu and they don't).
[05:34] <harut> kek
[05:34] <styles_> sure bud
[05:36] <hard4pow> hello
[06:03] <ilias> hi all. today i started a regular update on my  xubuntu 16.04.3 system through terminal. everything went ok after i gave sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and the update was progressing as usual but suddenly secs before the system finished with the update the screen got black (laptop was not out of power) and gave no response. i was forced to switch it off and when i switch it on the grub didn't start (i run xubuntu alongside wi
[06:03] <ilias> n10). the i started with a live usb and i tried to reload grub following these instructions http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd but when i give grub-install /dev/sda2 (which is EFI system partition) the system gives error--cannot find EFI directory. Any idea on this issue?
[06:20] <kanupatar> Hi all, I am using virtual box with ubuntu 64 bit. Currently my vm size was 35 GB. I wanted to allocate around 200GB for this VM. This VM is stored in a Windows 10 partition of size 300 GB. I have used the command VBoxManage modifyhd “C:\Users\Chris\VirtualBox VMs\Windows 7\Windows 7.vdi” --resize 201000 and I could see this size as virtual box size in Virtual box settings. But when I try to allocate memory in my ubuntu runnin
[06:20] <kanupatar> what I should do next
[07:29] <Amis> Hello! Are there any guide out there on how to interpret the columns of the SMART info in gnome-disks?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> Amis: perhaps the ##hardware guys might know more on this topic
[07:30] <Amis> lotuspsychje, I'll try
[07:35] <Delta706> Does Ubuntu have a policy of maintaining things so that normal actions do not produce a system with broken dependencies?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> yes
[07:36] <cfhowlett> to an extent
[07:36] <Delta706> oh that is a shame
[07:36] <cfhowlett> this is limited to ubuntu's own packages.  The non-ubuntu package maintainers do all kinds of things
[07:37] <Delta706> I am only using own packages
[07:38] <Delta706> I had assumed that things would be done carefully to avoid broken dependencies
[07:39] <cfhowlett> again, ubuntu package maintainers adhere to this.  Others --- not always so much.  As is the case with all distros.
[07:40] <Delta706> Could I be using package maintainers without knowing it?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> er ... yes?  Because every package in linux has a maintainer.
[07:40] <Delta706> I thought I was just doing standard actions
[07:40] <Delta706> and yet I have had to fix broken dependeneis
[07:41] <cfhowlett> package maintainer = the individual/team responsible for ensuring dependencies and fixes are addressed and applied
[07:42] <u3472> n'o
[07:42] <u3472> jkg'nhdrsj
[07:42] <Delta706> an example: ibreoffice-base-core : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial3) but 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial2 is to be installed
[07:44] <Delta706> libreoffice-writer : Depends: libreoffice-base-core (= 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial3) but 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial2 is installed
[07:46] <cfhowlett> Delta706, apt-cache show packagename | grep Maintainer        will show who to contact.  Alternatively you might consider filing a bug report
[07:46] <Squarism> is there no working ansi 2 html converter out there. All ive found are half assed hacks. aha, a2h, ansi2html
[07:48] <Delta706> So there can be bugs which break the dependencies then?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> of course.  usually detected prior to release
[07:50] <Delta706> ah right. I guess I thought it would be otherwise
[07:54] <hkmgang> yoyoyo
[07:54] <hkmgang> any one can help me ?
[08:14] <rollingubuntu> hello all of you!
[08:17] <rollingubuntu> here's what happened: using 17.10, my laptop battery got so low that the OS decided to shut down... then... after I plugged it it and started it again, 17.10 started in a blue-ish background desktop (having some kind of a bird in the center of the screen), without any menu, any launcher and some error message was displayed
[08:18] <rollingubuntu> luckily, I still had my other OS, 16.04 and so I can get things done, otherwise, that 17.10 is pretty unusable (did not try CTRL+ALT+3 or 4... to do console work)
[08:18] <cfhowlett> why do you need 17.10?
[08:23] <DevAntoine> hi
[08:24] <DevAntoine> I've got a weird issue on Ubuntu 17.10 since I've installed Docker: the DNS resolution on the host machine is not working anymore oO I can ping IP but hostnames cannot be resolved. The weirdest thing is that I did the exact same installation on another machine (same hardware, same Ubuntu version, installed just after formatting) and DNS resolution is OK.I've got a weird issue on Ubuntu 17.10 since I've installed Docker: the DNS resolutio
[08:24] <DevAntoine> n on the host machine is not working anymore oO I can ping IP but hostnames cannot be resolved. The weirdest thing is that I did the exact same installation on another machine (same hardware, same Ubuntu version, installed just after formatting) and DNS resolution is OK.
[08:24] <DevAntoine> I've added a line in /etc/interfaces to tell network manager to not manage docker0, I've deleted all the bridges and virtual interfaces, I've restarted network-manager, I've restarted the machine but it still cannot resolve DNS oO
[08:48] <ManicManiac> Good Morning. I have a custom application which can mount SMB shares remotely through a web interface. It is installed on an ubuntu server 14.04. It now allows all SMB versions to be mounted. Is there a way to prevent the system from mounting V1 shares?
[08:49] <ManicManiac> The mounting happens with the mount command and not with smbclient
[08:51] <Triffid_Hunter> ManicManiac: see man mount.cifs, you may be interested in vers= although I'm not sure if it accepts multiple comma-separated values
[08:52] <Triffid_Hunter> ManicManiac: if mount -t cifs -o vers=3.0,2.1,2.0 doesn't work, you might try mount -t cifs -o vers=3.0 || mount -t cifs -o vers=2.1 || ...
[08:57] <Elyiis> hi, i have a problem, i am on a fresh install of linux, i'm connected to my wifi but i cant access internet, when i'm on ethernet there is no problem ? If someone can help me ? Thanks o/
[08:57] <bazhang> which version of ubuntu Elyiis
[08:57] <Elyiis> 17.10
[08:57] <bazhang> what's the chipset for that
[08:59] <Elyiis> The chipset is a broadcom BCM4313
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> Elyiis: wich driver does your broadcom have? sudo lshw -C network
[09:16] <VjdfMQ> Hey all
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: welcome, how can we help you?
[09:17] <VjdfMQ> oh, hm ... screen brightness controlling shortcut don't work, but xev says they're captured
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: does your Fn + F brightness keys work?
[09:18] <Elyiis> lotuspsychje here it is : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gqJvrtV6fN/
[09:18] <VjdfMQ> lotuspsychje: Nothing happens when I'm pressin' this one
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Elyiis: you might wanna try bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:19] <VjdfMQ> Also, when I've tried to reassign this shortcut to Screen Brightness in settings, it said that this shortcut conflicts with Monitor Brightness
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Elyiis: or install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: while you testing around brightness problem can you tail -f /var/log/syslog we might be able to catch usefull errors on it
[09:21] <VjdfMQ> 1 min
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> sure
[09:21] <VjdfMQ> Nope, nothing in there
[09:21] <Elyiis> i've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras what should i do next ?
[09:21] <VjdfMQ> I meant ... nothing appended
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: try play around with brightness now
[09:22] <VjdfMQ> Already
[09:22] <VjdfMQ> Notihng appended there when I've tried to change screen's brightness
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Elyiis: try a reboot
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: perhaps check the full dmesg/syslog for acpi brightness problems
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: wich ubuntu are you on?
[09:24] <Elyiis> i still cant ping google.fr/his dns or my router
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> DevAntoine: perhaps the #docker guys might know that dns issue?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Elyiis: how about manual install of bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:25] <VjdfMQ> lotuspsychje: Linux x4 4.13.0-32-generic #35~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 25 10:13:43 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:25] <DevAntoine> lotuspsychje: well, I asked in #docker too but without any luck.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> DevAntoine: kk
[09:26] <DevAntoine> And I've found nothing on google :/
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> DevAntoine: uninstall of docker as a test to see if its working again?
[09:26] <DevAntoine> yeah, I'll try that
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: system up to date to latest also?
[09:26] <DevAntoine> But it won't fix my issue
[09:26] <VjdfMQ> lotuspsychje: Yes
[09:26] <VjdfMQ> Btw reboot helps, but after some time the same
[09:26] <VjdfMQ> mb
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: wich brand is your computer?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: some brands make more easy acpi bugs then others
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: brightness worked in a liveusb?
[09:28] <akik> DevAntoine: what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf as "nameserver"s ?
[09:29] <VjdfMQ> lotuspsychje: Thinkpad x201
[09:29] <VjdfMQ> lotuspsychje: yes, it worked
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: yeah you might wanna look into full syslog/dmesg to see if you can find acpi issues
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> !bootoptions | VjdfMQ or play with no_acpi
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> VjdfMQ: if non of this work, consider a new !bug for your system
[09:30] <VjdfMQ> lotuspsychje: Brightness works with changing scrollbar
[09:30] <VjdfMQ> But not with shortcut
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> weird
[09:30] <_mirak_> Hey guys, I have DB_NAME environmet variable, how do I set it's value to DATABASE_NAME var?
[09:31] <VjdfMQ> _mirak_: $bash
[09:31] <VjdfMQ> #bash *
[09:31] <akik> DevAntoine: if you know your dns server by ip address, you can query it with "host queried_name ip.add.re.ss"
[09:32] <DevAntoine> akik: I'll get the machine to answer your questions
[09:32] <DevAntoine> But I tried setting 8.8.8.8 as the DNS server in the network manager GUI without any luck
[09:32] <Elyiis> lotuspsychje : bcmwl-kernel-source installed and rebooted
[09:32] <akik> DevAntoine: it's all about what you now have in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:32] <Elyiis> And it works !
[09:32] <Elyiis> THANKS ! have a nice day c:
[09:39] <aaaaa> hi
[09:39] <xps> hows it going
[09:42] <p1n0> hello
[09:43] <p1n0> I'm trying to add an alias IPin ubuntu server 17.10 in the 01-netcfg.yaml file whitout success, any ideas?
[10:16] <akik> DevAntoine: did you fix your dns?
[10:20] <BitByBit> Hi all. I'm having some trouble configuring my network in a embedded system I can connect only by a console. As of now I have a link up with a succeffully dhcp ip. I can ping from another PC, but this is a volatile configuration. As of now I would like to configure DNS volatile to access internet and download basilar packages as ssh. could you help me please?
[10:21] <av92> BitByBit, you have to configure manual dns?
[10:22] <BitByBit> av92, no
[10:22] <maggo_> hey ho
[10:23] <BitByBit> av92, or better i have a local dns but I think i can use also google one
[10:24] <av92> BitByBit, ok.. you're trouble is using your personal dns?
[10:25] <DevAntoine> akik: sorry I'm on another issue right now :/
[10:26] <BitByBit> av92, my trouble is that as of now my system is unable to join any internet site. I think it doesn't have any dns configured. I would like to know if there is a command line to try to configure DNS on the fly
[10:26] <akik> BitByBit: on the fly config is editing /etc/resolv.conf
[10:27] <akik> BitByBit: it'll be overwritten
[10:27] <BitByBit> akik, ah ok.. i can add a nameserver = 8.8.8.8
[10:28] <akik> BitByBit: just "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[10:28] <BitByBit> akik, av92 thankyou
[10:29] <akik> BitByBit: if you configure your network through /etc/network/interfaces, you can use "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" in there
[10:29] <BitByBit> I have another question. In my system it seems that ethernet interfaces are down at startup.  Should I use /etc/network/interfaces to bring them up?
[10:29] <akik> BitByBit: if you ubuntu version supports it, yes
[10:29] <akik> your
[10:30] <BitByBit> akik, ubuntu is 16.04   ... is that sufficient or I can check it?
[10:30] <akik> BitByBit: yes it'll work in that
[10:31] <mujii> Hello
[10:31] <BitByBit> akik, Im a bit a noob on this... the coomand to bring up the interface is "ifup eth0" for example... firt of any other command on eth0?
[10:32] <akik> BitByBit: firt?
[10:32] <BitByBit> akik, before, sorry
[10:32] <akik> BitByBit: use "ip link show" to see what your interface names are
[10:33] <mujii> How to join kali irc
[10:33] <akik> BitByBit: once you set it up in /etc/network/interfaces, ifup eth0 will work if it's not configured already
[10:33] <BitByBit> yes I have eth0 is a virtual interface, then 3 phy interfaces named wan, lan0 and lan1
[10:34] <BitByBit> plus I have lo and bond0 that actually i don't know what they are
[10:34] <Sircle> php process is taking out 100% of CPU. I have many sites, How can I trace on which file/site is taking this utilization?
[10:35] <Triffid_Hunter> Sircle: check open filehandles on the culprit thread perhaps?
[10:35] <akik> BitByBit: lo should be there always. bond0 is some kind of interface combination
[10:35] <Sircle> Triffid_Hunter,  command?
[10:36] <Triffid_Hunter> Sircle: find pid with htop or so, then lsof -p pid
[10:36] <BitByBit> akik, thankyou. I will try to edit the file...
[10:37] <Sircle> Triffid_Hunter,  there are many sites in apahce
[10:39] <Sircle> php process is taking out 100% of CPU. I have many sites, How can I trace on which file/site is taking this utilization?
[10:53] <BitByBit> akik, I'm tryin go edit /etc/network/interfaces. I entered the line ip link set eth0 up, but it seems it doesn't like
[10:54] <ramsub07> Hi i am having issues while installing new packages. i guess my dkpg is broken. I get the following error and i am not able to install any other packages. http://dpaste.com/285C89R
[10:55] <Triffid_Hunter> ramsub07: no space left on device. you need to delete some stuff or embiggen your disk
[10:55] <ramsub07> Triffid_Hunter:  it says on my boot device there is no space
[10:56] <ramsub07> Triffid_Hunter: sorry, the full traceback http://dpaste.com/0A4RED2
[10:56] <ramsub07> I think i have a lot of unused kernels in /boot
[10:57] <akik> BitByBit: the file has a syntax which you must follow
[10:58] <akik> BitByBit: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html "Static IP Address Assignment"
[10:58] <akik> BitByBit: it's also possible to use dhcp "Dynamic IP Address Assignment (DHCP Client)"
[10:58] <jink> ramsub07: apt-get --purge autoremove # might help you get rid of old kernels and other unused software.
[11:00] <BitByBit> akik,  Thankyou again for your hints.. I will try to figure out.
[11:00] <ramsub07> jink: there is supposed to be 256 Gb on my boot SSD and more than 180 gb are unoccupied. why would it still complain of insufficient space ?
[11:04] <Triffid_Hunter> ramsub07: wherever apt is putting stuff is full, check df -h perhaps
[11:08] <ramsub07> Triffid_Hunter: is it possible to allocate /boot more space ?
[11:08] <Triffid_Hunter> ramsub07: tricky but possible, depends on how your partitions are laid out.. why not just remove the kernels you're not using though?
[11:10] <ramsub07> Triffid_Hunter: that worked for now
[11:10] <ramsub07> but if i do an apt-get update the next time,i fear new kernels will be installed alongside
[11:11] <Triffid_Hunter> ramsub07: sure, but ubuntu doesn't push new kernels that often.. just keep an eye on it, should be fine
[11:11] <ramsub07> cool, thanks
[11:15] <BitByBit> akik, Sorry to bother again.. this is what I get when restarting networkingservice http://pasted.co/66c4e758
[11:16] <BitByBit> akik, it look stange to me that it says unknown eht0 when it is shown in ip links
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:22] <Sircle_> what is meant by this? sh -c /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i  -fgisela.c@pa
[11:24] <Auctus> whats the best thing to do with a high-dpi display on ubuntu 16? i got a 14" laptop with a 1080p display, stuff's tiny
[11:26] <Auctus> if i do universal access -> large font, and i also do font scaling in unity tweak tool, then the text on tabs on firefox is still too small to read, maybe i can set some kind of dpi scaling or something somewhere
[11:26] <BitByBit> akik, Is done, I had to configure eth0 as manual interface, then wan as dhcp.. Thanks for hints
[11:26] <SwedeMike> Auctus: https://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi has some hints on what can be done.
[11:34] <Sircle_> what is meant by this? sh -c /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i  -fgisela.c@site.com ?
[11:35] <jink> sh -c runs a command, that command is sendmail.  man sh ; man sendmail
[11:38] <Furai> !next
[11:38] <Furai> What is the channel for the upcoming versions of ubuntu?
[11:38] <hateball> Furai: #ubuntu+1
[11:38] <Auctus> SwedeMike: thanks, reading now
[11:38] <Furai> Yeah, I vaguely remembered that it had something with one more in it, thanks. :)
[11:47] <znull> hi, i have one Dl180 HP server and raid 10 ( 4disks ) can anyone tell me if on the #1,#2, disks are the OS? and #3,4 disk are for mirroring?
[11:53] <Sircle> how to kill all processes that has sendmail in it?
[11:57] <ecormier> killall sendmail?
[11:57] <ecormier> Sircle: ^
[12:05] <kal-el> Hello
[12:12] <kal-el> hello
[12:12] <ecormier> kal-el: hello
[12:14] <kal-el> Im new to ubuntu and i have wifi issue my firefox get very slow so i need to turn off and back on wifi to get it going
[12:14] <kal-el> how can i fix it?
[12:17] <kal-el> 7.7 GiB Intel® Core™ i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz × 4 Intel® HD Graphics 620 (Kaby Lake GT2) 64bit Gnome 3.26.2
[12:17] <Outy> kal-el: to help us please write your wifi adapter. to find out open terminal and do lspci and lsusb
[12:18] <Outy> kal-el: under one of them your wifi adapter is listed
[12:19] <kal-el> runnin 3.26.2
[12:20] <kal-el> ubuntu 17.10
[12:22] <kal-el> can anyone help me?
[12:24] <ecormier> kal-el: did you see Outy's post? please provide the wifi info from lspci
[12:34] <Outy> hmm
[12:36] <kal-el> hello i got disconnected sorry
[12:37] <Outy> kal-el: no prob. open terminal. type in lspci  and look for the name of your wifi adapter  we wanna know that
[12:46] <linocisco> hi all
[12:46] <Outy> hi
[12:47] <linocisco> Quty, with reference to https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-enterprise-on-ubuntu/, how can I check my glibc version?
[12:49] <Outy> linocisco: I don't know - maybe someone else can give you that answwr :o)
[12:49] <linocisco> Quty, with reference to https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-enterprise-on-ubuntu/, how can I check my glibc version?
[12:49] <linocisco> with reference to https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-enterprise-on-ubuntu/, how can I check my glibc version?
[12:51] <Outy> linocisco: ldd --version
[12:51] <Outy> linocisco: shows glibc version
[12:52] <Marlene> Sorry i got disconnected
[12:53] <Marlene> I have the same issue kal
[12:53] <linocisco> Quty thanks ldd --version worked
[12:53] <Outy> linocisco: you're welcome
[12:53] <Marlene>  And im am new too
[12:55] <Marlene> I wish i knew how to help you and myself try installing Arch is too hard for me but you might be able to use it
[12:55] <Outy> Marlene: are you both on 17.10?
[12:55] <DiecastMessiah> Hailz all, on ubuntu 16.04 using nvidia 310m install the last video drivers for it..nvidia-340.104 .. it an optimus type of video.. but I have the drivers working. oddly some things work fine others don't .. But from reading and playing around i am finding there are odd things with different libeuries.. like glib , libEGL, and last it seems also error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0 .. but
[12:55] <DiecastMessiah> alot of things work within the desktop Env . glxgears works.. glmark2-es2 works but glmark2 doesn't . here is the glmark2-es2 please note libEGL error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rJzkNst4ZD/
[13:07] <oversyn> Hi
[13:07] <oversyn> I'm looking for 18.04 mini.iso to give it a spin
[13:07] <DiecastMessiah> so i am guessing that maybe the driver install or something.. didn't setup all the libraries correctly .. or if there is some other software missing that links or run the libraries to the API ..
[13:08] <oversyn> And I have just found bionic-base-amd64.tar.gz
[13:08] <necy_> Hi
[13:08] <oversyn> Any ideas if it is available yet?
[13:11] <necy_> I need to update grub from console on boot
[13:11] <ioria> oversyn, maybe here... http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[13:12] <necy_> What hotkeys should use
[13:13] <DiecastMessiah> oversyn: also this channel doesn't deal with 18.04 .. can chat about that at #ubuntu+1
[13:13] <oversyn> ups!
[13:13] <oversyn> thanks
[13:13] <DiecastMessiah> no problem
[13:19] <nige> hey all
[13:33] <necy_> Ok, im in grub console
[13:35] <Curi0> how can I change the GTK window manager theme for a single application ?
[13:35] <Curi0> GTK_THEME only works for stuff with CSD
[13:38] <jack_> 有中国人吗？
[13:38] <AmericanBlend> !japanese
[13:38] <jack_> hello！
[13:38] <AmericanBlend> o/
[13:39] <jack_> hello？
[13:39] <AmericanBlend> hey, what's up man
[13:39] <jack_> Japanese?
[13:39] <AmericanBlend> !japanese
[13:39] <jack_> ohhhhhhhhh
[13:40] <AmericanBlend> 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。
[13:40] <OerHeks> english support only :-)
[13:40] <jack_> :)
[13:41] <jack_> Chinese？
[13:41] <jack_> 有中国人吗
[13:41] <TJ-> !zh
[13:43] <jack_> Hello？
[13:46] <jack_> Hey,ron!!!
[13:46] <OerHeks> jack_, do you have an Ubuntu support issue?
[13:51] <necy_> Could someone show me how to edit the grub from console asif it was on the desktop
[13:52] <necy_> I have have keyboard issues and i need to makechanges
[13:52] <TJ-> necy_: you want to make permanent changes to the kernel's boot command-line?
[13:53] <OerHeks> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[13:53] <OerHeks> !grub
[13:53] <ecormier> necy_: what keyboard problem?
[13:53] <TJ-> necy_: add options to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="..." if so then do "sudo update-grub"
[13:53] <necy_> Inresponsive
[13:54] <ecormier> keyboard doesn't work for grub?
[13:54] <ecormier> yikes
[13:55] <necy_> Yes, but i dont know how to make ammendments to it asif it was a file
[13:55] <TJ-> necy_: if the keyboard is USB and doesn't respond whilst the boot-loader is active, that suggests the PC's BIOS/firmware setttings need to enable "Lagacy USB" support
[13:56] <ecormier> what kind of keyboard? how does it connect (builtin, usb, bluetooth)?
[13:56] <TJ-> "Legacy USB" even
[13:56] <necy_> No
[13:56] <TJ-> necy_: as OerHeks said, use a text editor like nano: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"
[13:57] <necy_> Infact
[13:59] <ecormier> necy_: if the keyboard doesn't work in grub, there's no option that you can give grub that will make it work for grub... grub grabs it from bios
[13:59] <ecormier> the options in grub will change things after the kernel is loaded, not before
[14:01] <BitByBit> How can I remove HITS and GET when i run apt-get update from my terminal?
[14:02] <OerHeks> BitByBit, not, i think, why do those lines bother you?
[14:02] <znull> hardware raid controller, or software it writes information for raid,  at the beginning of the disc and at the end? anyone know?
[14:04] <BitByBit> OerHeks, have some skipping messages i would like not to see. furthermore I didnt install these packages
[14:04] <TJ-> znull: is it reall hardware controller or 'fake'RAID? 'fake'RAID is actually software RAID - the difference is the former completely hides the underlying array members from the OS whereas the latter doesn't
[14:04] <znull> TJ-,  hp raid p410
[14:05] <znull> TJ-,  i've cloned my 4x2tb disks to 4tb and it does want to start, so maybe something is missing at the end,
[14:06] <DevAntoine> akik: regarding my issue with docker and lost of dns resolution this morning, in /etc/resolv.conf I've got the nameserver set to 127.0.1.53. It's weird right?
[14:06] <TJ-> znull: if it's using software RAID that may be the case if the metadata is expected at the end. How is the RAID array assembled ?
[14:08] <znull> TJ-,  its hardware raid, dl180 server with p410 controller,  raid 0+1 (10) my disks crashed but i managed to use ddrescue and copy them to another disks, but they have 4TB vs initial 2TB disks
[14:11] <TJ-> znull: if it's hardware raid then you'll need HP specific tooling to correctly migrate to larger disks
[14:14] <BitByBit> Is there possible that aptitude have no package candidate for ubuntu 16.04 on ARM?
[14:14] <znull> TJ-, yeah maybe not sure how to do it with HP tools, because we made copies with dd from where the server on datacenter was located,  and now we have other controller, but i dont think thats the issue, i just need to find out if gpt or some data is located at the end of the disk, because right now we are copying from 4TB disks to 2TB disks
[14:15] <frostschutz> znull, most fakeraid controllers will put their metadata at the end of the drive
[14:16] <Outy> znull: that should be right. raid 1+0  is 2tb+2tb=4tb + a mirror of 2tb+2tb=4tb
[14:17] <znull> frostschutz, : initial 4xdisks were 2TB : we did ddrescuse on 4TB disks, it does not want to start, now we have to do  dd from 4tb to new 2TB disks, ( and is not fake raid )
[14:17] <znull> Outy, exactly,
[14:18] <Outy> znull: why not take the mirror disk? you don't wanna say more than 2 disk gave up the same time - do you ?
[14:19] <TJ-> znull: you've not given enough info on how it is failing, it could be a RAID-controller metadata problem, partitioning, or file-system
[14:19] <frostschutz> znull, 2TB disks might not work either if they were not exact same size in bytes. you have to figure out the raid layout and run it directly in software
[14:19] <DiecastMessiah> I am trying to make a big pastebin having trouble remember the commands to get all the info about my video drivers.. like glxinfo and lspci | grep VGA also any other things that would be useful to add for spmeone that helping me to know
[14:20] <TJ-> znull: with hardware RAID you'd need to assemble the array from the controller's BIOS setup tools, presumably via iLo console
[14:20] <DiecastMessiah> i plan on putting that info and also to put the errors i get from different games.. so i don;t need to do this over and over
[14:21] <TJ-> DiecastMessiah: "lspci -nnk -d::300" will list VGA-compatible devices
[14:22] <znull> Outy, 3 disks fail in 3 days from,
[14:22] <exploter> Hi guys, any way to install libhunspell-1.3-0? i getting this error " rssowl : Depends: libhunspell-1.3-0 but it is not installable
[14:22] <exploter> "
[14:22] <Outy> znull: wow
[14:23] <znull> Outy, yeah my datacenter was replacing the disks, with old ones,
[14:24] <znull> Outy, : so first day disk #3 crashed ||  second day disk #4 crashed || ( hp controller said #4 was ok ) #3 was at 42% and #1 crashed.
[14:24] <znull> Outy, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tzBpKQhj65/
[14:28] <znull> Outy, I copy the image of 2tb -> 4tb, then I take 1 mb from 2tb at the end and put at 4tb at the end - and should be ok?
[14:31] <TJ-> znull: you've still not told us what error is seen
[14:31] <znull> TJ-,  hp controler, does not see the 4disks he wants me to create new logical drives
[14:32] <OerHeks> !info libhunspell-1.6-0
[14:32] <TJ-> znull: OK, is it's a controller-level problem not the OS then
[14:32] <Outy> znull: don't think so. better take the best broken hdds   (1+2) + (1+2)   for example 2 from first array and 1 from second array and dd both to new hdds
[14:32] <znull> Outy, i did this,
[14:32] <TJ-> znull: when you did the ddrescue were you using another plain SATA disk controller ?
[14:32] <znull> TJ-, yes
[14:32] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hunspell
[14:33] <TJ-> znull: did you check if the disks had HPAs, and if so, did you disable those first?
[14:33] <akik> DevAntoine: you can use nmcli to see what dns servers it uses: "nmcli con show" then "nmcli con show docker0 | grep -i dns" (docker0 is an example)
[14:33] <znull> Outy, for example ddrescuse saved from #1       99.99%  so the box should start with #1 and #4 should be enough disks
[14:34] <znull> TJ-, broken 2tb disks, we moved them in another server, and used ddrescuse on all, and dump them on 4tb disks,
[14:34] <znull> TJ-,  after that, we dumped, 4tb disks on another 4disks , (to have 1 clean copy of the disks )
[14:35] <TJ-> znull: right, but did you disable any HPAs/DCOs on them first?
[14:35] <znull> TJ-,  yes
[14:35] <akik> DevAntoine: it could be that the defined ip 127.0.1.53 is incorrect or somehow your route table got mangled
[14:35] <akik> DevAntoine: do you have 127.0.1.53 or 127.0.0.53
[14:35] <DevAntoine> akik: I thought that 127.0.0.1 is the default?
[14:35] <TJ-> znull: and disabled them on the target devices too? and ensured the HPA/DCO sectors from the source disks went to the end of the target disks ?
[14:36] <akik> DevAntoine: systemd brought the change to 127.0.0.53
[14:36] <DevAntoine> akik: why?
[14:36] <akik> DevAntoine: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:37] <akik> DevAntoine: it's what systemd-resolved does
[14:37] <znull> TJ-, well we are checking that, but at the end ? how much information does it writes there? 512kb 1mb? do you know?
[14:37] <TJ-> DevAntoine: they picked an IP which was no currently used /and/ suggests it's use for DNS (port 53)
[14:38] <Outy> znull: if it is (1+2) + (3+4)  this should be runnin if you place new dd'ed hdds back in original place / same sata cables as broken hdds before
[14:38] <TJ-> znull: well, you'd need to first know the size of the HPA and DCOs on the source devices, then remove those to access the sectors, then write those sectors to the target device, then enable the HPA and DCOs on the target device with the same size as was used on the source.
[14:39] <znull> Outy,  i think its 1+4 ( but they wont start because hp controler does not see them as raid 1+0, because i dont have something at the end of the disks, i think)
[14:39] <TJ-> znull: that's if the HP controller is using HPA/DCO for some metadata storage - it might not do that
[14:40] <znull> TJ-,  not sure if you are familiar with hp products, ( this is my first time.. ) anyway crashed box was DL 120 (P212 controler ) and we are trying to fix this now on Dl 180 P410 controler.
[14:41] <znull> TJ-,  disk in hba mode is larger than when configured as a logical drive/raid0, so im guessing it uses the disk space to store metadata
[14:41] <Outy> znull: if you hve taken 1 + 4  you should try disconnect 2+3 maybe works
[14:42] <znull> Outy,  #3 disk we dont have, and #1,#4 we are copying from 4TB disks to 2TB
[14:43] <znull> reading this now, https://nerdster.org/writing-disk-hpa/
[14:44] <BitByBit> could someone send a snapshot of the content of /etc/apt/sources.list     for ubuntu 16.04 possibly not much touched?
[14:44] <znull> Outy,  : box didnt wanted to start with #1,#4 because i think the raid information is missing,
[14:44] <kostkon> BitByBit, https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[14:44] <TJ-> znull: have you confirmed the controllers use compatible metadata ?
[14:44] <DevAntoine> TJ-:  but how can it works if I got no DNS server en .53?
[14:45] <znull> TJ-,  yes
[14:45] <BitByBit> kostkon, Thanks, I'm trying already but I cant figure out the minimun configuration
[14:45] <TJ-> DevAntoine: there is a DNS server; systemd-resolved provides it, which is what writes that value
[14:47] <Outy> znull: shouldnt be missing. i had same long time ago with intel raid.... i can just give you this: http://www.freeraidrecovery.com/library/raid10-recovery.aspx
[14:48] <kostkon> BitByBit, i guess a minimum would be main, universe, security and possibly updates
[14:48] <Outy> znull: Software maybe bad. But HowTo is nice
[14:49] <BitByBit> kostkon, for example I can't get aptitude
[14:49] <kostkon> !info aptiture xenial
[14:49] <kostkon> oops
[14:49] <kostkon> !info aptitude xenial
[14:50] <kostkon> BitByBit, well it's in main you should be able to get it
[14:50] <akik> DevAntoine: earlier ubuntu had dnsmasq providing a dns server at 127.0.1.1. it's becoming quite hard to follow these networking config changes in ubuntu
[14:52] <BitByBit> kostkon, as of now I have a malformed entry on the sources file i copied from the site you suggested. I try to fix this first. Unlucky I deleted the file besore.
[14:52] <TJ-> znull: are you seeing a 1785 POST message during boot ?
[14:52] <kostkon> BitByBit, ok, hopefully apt has pointed out the line for you
[14:54] <znull> TJ-, i dont see that
[14:55] <TJ-> znull: according to the HP SmartArray user guide, after moving an array to a new controller you would see 1785 if the array doesn't configure correctly, or 1724 or 1727 if it did
[14:55] <klemax> Hello. Has anybody tested ryzen 3 2200G apu on ubuntu 17.10? with 1920x1080
[14:56] <BitByBit> kostkon, I still get malformed entry... I cant figure out what is the problem
[14:57] <kostkon> BitByBit, you could pastebin your sources.list along with the error you are getting, if you want, on paste.ubuntu.com
[14:57] <klemax> Actually i just wanna be sure about whther 17.10 kernel supports it
[15:02] <OerHeks> klemax, some bugs will be fixed with kernel 4.16 ( not out yet), that APU is fresh
[15:03] <klemax> OerHeks, yeah so we will need to wait for 18.04?
[15:03] <TJ-> znull: have you thought of using 'testdisk' to identify the PT/OS areas and see if - outside of those - you can manually recognise array metadata (you should see the SmartArray logical name for example) using 'dd if=/dev/sdX bs=512 skip=Y count=Z | hexdump -C' on a 'standard' controller
[15:03] <BitByBit> kostkon, Ok I got the apt-get working... I paste the error on aptitude.  http://pasted.co/93acbdaf
[15:04] <znull> TJ-, no, but will try
[15:05] <znull> TJ-, root@debian2:~# dd if=/dev/sdf bs=1M skip=1000000 count=1    
[15:05] <znull> dd: /dev/sdf: cannot skip: Invalid argument
[15:05] <znull>  ( but the #3 disk is on usb, maybe it will work if is on sata cable)
[15:05] <BitByBit> kostkon, Is very stange why apt-get seems to look in some repositories that i didnt mark in the sources.list?
[15:05] <OerHeks> klemax, 18.04 will have 4.15 .. just wait and see what happens, as the APU is fresh, it needs a lot of TLC to get things right
[15:05] <TJ-> znull: values are sector counts
[15:06] <TJ-> znull: sorry, skip value is multiples of bs (blocksize)
[15:06] <klemax> OerHeks ok thanks
[15:07] <TJ-> znull: which is why I'd recommend using bs default (512 bytes) if that's the device logical sector size, so you can quickly skip in device units
[15:07] <kostkon> BitByBit, what's the output of  uname -a
[15:10] <BitByBit> http://pasted.co/d362b59a
[15:10] <BitByBit> kostkon, http://pasted.co/d362b59a
[15:12] <BitByBit> kostkon, Leaving as BitByBit and logging as BitByBitEveryBit, so I'm in the same machoine and can copy/paste easily
[15:13] <OerHeks> " Is very stange why apt-get seems to look in some repositories that i didnt mark in the sources.list?" you can look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder for ppa's
[15:14] <OerHeks> espresso-bin .. is that really ubuntu? http://wiki.espressobin.net/tiki-index.php?page=Software+HowTo
[15:14] <kostkon> BitByBitEveryBit, looks like that mirror isn't the best choice for arm64 packages. You could try redoing your sources.list on that site and selecting the main mirror (for now)
[15:14] <kostkon> BitByBitEveryBit, on repogen*
[15:15] <kostkon> BitByBitEveryBit, also, “Bit by Bit” the Theme from Fletch, I hope :D
[15:18] <OerHeks> kostkon, i think he needs arm, as i read 'aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 ' next to his kernel
[15:18] <kostkon> BitByBitEveryBit, and as OerHeks has pointed out you haev some 3rd party repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d  one is for mono, there may be others
[15:19] <kostkon> OerHeks, i got the same impression
[15:20] <Exterminador> hello. I'm facing a weird issue. I cannot login to my account on Xubuntu, but I can access to all the other existing accounts :/
[15:22] <BitByBitEveryBit> kostkon, OerHeks  Thanks, I will see if there is specific repos for arm architecture. What I was pointing was also that apt-get update seems to search for Mono, but it didn't figure in the list files... It was there before i delete
[15:23] <pavlos> Exterminador: become root and change your passwd
[15:23] <kostkon> Exterminador, probably the usual .xauthority issue
[15:23] <OerHeks> BitByBitEveryBit, ppa's heve their own list in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  folder, so it will not damage the sources.list.
[15:23] <OerHeks> ls  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  # would list them
[15:24] <Exterminador> I have Ubuntu 17.10 & Xubuntu 17.10. On Ubuntu I can login. but not in Xubuntu. that's weird as hell
[15:26] <OerHeks> and you will need to fix your  /etc/apt/sources.list to arm ## you might have a copy >> sudo cp /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:26] <OerHeks> neet trick, as i say
[15:30] <BitByBitEveryBit> OerHeks, ok thankyou.... I will try now
[15:32] <badcom> Hey guys. This process "/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten top vt7 -novtswitch" is using 100% of my CPU. Logging out and logging in fixes the problem temporarily, then it starts again. I'm on Ubuntu Server 16.04 with Ubuntu-Desktop installed. Any suggestions? This is driving me crazy =/
[15:33] <leftyfb> badcom: why are you running a desktop on a server?
[15:33] <badcom> leftyfb, because the hosting company installed the server version and I wanted desktop
[15:34] <kostkon> badcom, that's your x server, you need it if you plan to keep your desktop
[15:35] <badcom> kostkon, yep, but why is it causing that problem? I've done some Googling and this seems to be a bug...
[15:35] <TJ-> badcom: does the system have a VGA/GPU device ?
[15:36] <znull> TJ-,  i think my medatada from 2tb is gone ( linux guy screw something when he added the initial 2tb disks ) so my question is ? can i try : buy 4new disks, make them raid 1+0 and copy from old disks blocksectors, ) without the medatadata since is gone
[15:36] <badcom> TJ-, "VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. G200eR2"
[15:36] <noob001> hi, I am new to Ubuntu, and i just setup a vm running ubuntu to test it. the esxi webbased console is a bit slow, is there some sort of vnc service built-in? how do I connect to this vm from windows?
[15:36] <leftyfb> badcom: that's a virtual driver
[15:36] <znull> TJ-,  medata has some information about the HDD serial number? stripes or something ?
[15:37] <leftyfb> badcom: sounds like this is a VM, maybe not meant to be running a graphical interface
[15:37] <TJ-> znull: sure, create an identical partition table then dd the individual partition's data over into the new partitions
[15:37] <TJ-> znull: I would assume it does, it'll contain some of the details you see from the hpacucli tool
[15:37] <badcom> leftyfb, it's a physical server...
[15:38] <TJ-> badcom: is there a monitor connected? I'd expect the x server to be a bit confused if it has no outputs at all
[15:38] <kostkon> badcom, the vanilla Ubuntu desktop? unity and all? a 3d opengl based desktop. even if that card isn't virtual i doubt it can handle it easily
[15:39] <badcom> TJ-, good question. I need to check...
[15:39] <TJ-> The matrox G200 is about 20 years old, not sure if there are any drivers for it at all, possibly only VESA drivers for that
[15:40] <noob001> I tried tightvncserver and xrdp, neither worked
[15:40] <badcom> So that process is graphic related
[15:40] <akik> badcom: i've had good experience with x2go and either mate or lxde on the server
[15:41] <badcom> akik, I'm accessing it through iDrac
[15:42] <leftyfb> badcom: that process is your desktop
[15:42] <noob001> idrac I could do as well, but surely there must be something better
[15:43] <leftyfb> noob001: define "neither worked"
[15:43] <noob001> leftyfb: I installed tightvncserver, installation worked, as soon as I connected from the windows machine to the host, the application crashed
[15:43] <noob001> (on the linux side)
[15:44] <noob001> xrdp worked, I was able to connect to the "portal" or whatever you want to call it, where I got a choice of method to connect, I picked the standard, entered login/pass, got a gray screen
[15:44] <TJ-> !info xserver-xorg-video-dummy | badcom
[15:45] <badcom> got it...
[15:45] <leftyfb> noob001: try x11vnc. Though I'm curious why you need a desktop environment on a remote machine to begin with?
[15:45] <badcom> Is it possible to restart it without having to log out/in again?
[15:46] <badcom> Until I find a definite solution for it
[15:46] <noob001> leftyfb: I am completely new to linux, I am not going to run text commands only, I want a gui
[15:46] <Exterminador> https://streamable.com/rbouq -> this is what happens when I try to login to Xubuntu (tried both xfce and Xubuntu session)
[15:46] <leftyfb> noob001: sure, but for what purpose? What will you be using it for?
[15:47] <badcom> Think I found it "sudo service lightdm restart"
[15:48] <badcom> It closes all programs though =/
[15:49] <noob001> leftyfb: I don't know yet, like I said I am new to it, so I want to discover what's in it, what it can do, etc
[15:50] <noob001> leftyfb: x11vnc is working perfectly, thanks for the tip!
[15:50] <kostkon> Exterminador, ctrl+alt+f2, log in, check the ownership of .Xauthority. it shouldn't be owned by root
[15:50] <leftyfb> noob001: It would be easier and cheaper to just run a live cd or run it in a VM on your local machine then to mess around with a remote dedicated/VM server
[15:51] <noob001> dno, spooling up a vm on a server I already use for other stuff is fairly easy
[15:51] <kostkon> Exterminador, the .Xauthority file in that users' home
[15:51] <Exterminador> it's owned by vitor:vitor
[15:52] <noob001> leftyfb: my R710 is running anyway, and has plenty of ram and cpu left to run more vm's
[15:52] <Exterminador> I've done ls -ld ~/.*authority
[15:52] <kostkon> Exterminador, well we eliminated the most probable cause
[15:52] <leftyfb> noob001: sorry, I was actually addressing the wrong person
[15:53] <noob001> leftyfb: oh, sorry I missed that lol
[15:53] <Exterminador> and Xauthority and ICEauthority are owned by me. perhaps something wrong about the damn Nvidia drivers?
[15:53] <TJ-> badcom: yes, restarting lightdm is restarting the DM (Display Manager), which controls the X server and greeter login
[15:54] <TJ-> Exterminador: check for other files/dirs not owned by your user account: "find $HOME \! -user $USER -ls "
[15:57] <Exterminador> TJ-: I've executed the command but it didn't give any output yet
[15:57] <TJ-> Exterminador: OK, it'll scan all directories under $HOME so could take a while if you've a lot in there
[15:58] <Exterminador> TJ-: yes, I have a few ones indeed. but it was working perfectly before updating today :/
[15:59] <TJ-> Exterminador: right, well this command just ensures you've not got some other non-user owned files that could cause the issue, then you can look at other causes. I'd recommend checking $HOME/.xsession-errors and also the DM log. If it's using lightdm then check in /var/log/lightdm/
[16:00] <TenStepsBack> hello to all
[16:00] <Exterminador> TJ-: it's starting to appear some files related to ~/.rpmdb
[16:00] <Exterminador> owned by root
[16:00] <akik> badcom: is the idrac web ui running through a java app?
[16:00] <TJ-> Exterminador: I doubt they'll be a problem; sounds like you've used a tool like 'alien' to convert/install RPM packages
[16:00] <leftyfb> akik: it does
[16:01] <Exterminador> as the GUI, it's using the default Xubuntu GUI.
[16:01] <akik> yea i wouldn't expect anything from that
[16:01] <TJ-> Exterminador: check the log files then
[16:01] <badcom> akik, Yes
[16:01] <FooBizz> does the type of machine I have change the APT packages I have access to ? ARM vs X86 ?
[16:02] <noob001> leftyfb: thx for the help, bbl
[16:04] <Exterminador> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nXtXgBq5TM/
[16:05] <DiecastMessiah> ok so i was right about my gaming problem.. after installing different libraries more stuff is working.. but hit a road block trying to install ia32-libs
[16:05] <ycyclist> Any advise about vim editing both Makefiles and Python files together?  I wonder about tabbing.
[16:06] <kostkon> Exterminador, check your /etc/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:06] <TJ-> Exterminador: hmmm, not sure if this is relevant but "xfce4-session: Another session manager is already running"
[16:07] <kostkon> DiecastMessiah, what are you trying to do
[16:07] <ibispi> hey i have a problem
[16:07] <Exterminador> kostkon: there's no /etc/log dir
[16:07] <kostkon> Exterminador, oops, /var/log
[16:07] <ibispi> i was away from home for a week, came back, updated my 16.04 ubuntu
[16:07] <ibispi> and now i can't log in while my nvidia drivers are installed
[16:08] <ibispi> so i had to uninstall my nvidia driver
[16:08] <ibispi> in order to login
[16:08] <ibispi> and i'm using the open thingamajig
[16:08] <ibispi> are the devs working on fixing this?
[16:08] <Exterminador> Xorg.0.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6tfgMMQZwp/
[16:10] <Exterminador> i can try changing to Xorg server instead Nvidia and see if solves the issue
[16:11] <DiecastMessiah> kostkon: getting my games to run .. i have a optimus laptop.. but i have my video working right.. but different games don;t run
[16:11] <Exterminador> worth to mention that i've shutdown the laptop and so on but nothing seems to solve the issue. like i've said, weirdly i can login to other accounts except my own
[16:12] <Exterminador> sorry, someone call. brb
[16:13] <DiecastMessiah> trying it install different 32bit libraries ..
[16:14] <DiecastMessiah> ia32-libs ,-- is old i guess so it not repostories
[16:14] <badcom> akik, why?
[16:16] <ibispi> so i guess it's time to uninstall ubuntu
[16:17] <ibispi> and use something where regular updates don't break the system
[16:18] <jiffier> Hi, does anybody use an ANSI-International keymapping here?
[16:19] <Exterminador> any ideas about this? tried changing the drivers but I still enter in a login loop :/
[16:19] <DiecastMessiah> or anyone know a one stop fix to get all the libraries i need ?? i have installed libuuid:i386 and also libsdl1.2:i386 which installed like 80 packages .. and now i have more games working
[16:20] <ibispi> Exterminador: i have the same problem
[16:20] <ibispi> i am in a login loop since the latest update
[16:20] <ibispi> i had to uninstall the nvidia drivers
[16:20] <Exterminador> ibispi: but I can login to other accounts
[16:20] <Exterminador> but not mine
[16:20] <ibispi> huh
[16:20] <ibispi> weird
[16:20] <Exterminador> very weird indeed
[16:22] <ibispi> i'm thinking of moving to windows again
[16:23] <nacc> Exterminador: try backing up your .config or .local directory (by logging in at tty2)
[16:23] <nacc> Exterminador: and then see if that fixes it
[16:23] <docmur> Hey guys, I reset my user password, but wasn't careful enough and well I typed it twice, I can't seem to figure it out.  I'm running Ubuntu 17.10 4.13.0 (Kernel), does anyone know of a privilege exploit to get into root?  Or is there a way I can bypass having to know my current paswword? I can't sudo up
[16:23] <nacc> docmur: lol, 'privilege exploit'? :)
[16:24] <nacc> docmur: if you have physical access to the system, boot into recovery mode
[16:24] <docmur> I don't have access to it right now, so I was hoping to do this via SSH
[16:24] <nacc> docmur: do you have console access?
[16:24] <docmur> Yes, I'm SSH'd into the box right now :)
[16:24] <docmur> as my user
[16:24] <nacc> docmur: not ssh, console
[16:25] <nacc> docmur: like serial console
[16:25] <docmur> oh, no
[16:25] <Exterminador> nacc: you mean backing up and then delete the originals?
[16:25] <nacc> docmur: then no, I don't think there is a way to do what you want
[16:25] <docmur> craps lol
[16:25] <nacc> Exterminador: e.g. mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak; mv ~/.local ~/.local.bak`
[16:25] <nacc> Exterminador: the idea being that login loops like that typically (ime) are when some application changed some config file and didn't upgrade properly
[16:26] <Exterminador> nacc: I'll do it right away
[16:26] <nacc> Exterminador: they 'upgrade' the system one, but not the user one, and desktop apps are notorious for that
[16:26] <nacc> Exterminador: that will make your user more like the other user that does work (in that there is no local config)
[16:26] <nacc> Exterminador: then it's a matter of narrowing it down, which can be painful; it's often easier to just slowly set things back up the way they were
[16:27] <TJ-> docmur: do you currently have a shell with your user logged in ?
[16:28] <docmur> TJ-, I'm SSH'd into the given box, but I don't have phyiscal access to it, at least for the next 10ish hours
[16:28] <TJ-> docmur: that's not what I asked; do you currently have a shell with your user logged in?
[16:28] <nacc> TJ-: over ssh, they do, yeah
[16:28] <nacc> (afaict)
[16:29] <Exterminador> nacc: login loop still
[16:29] <TJ-> docmur: Are you using "passwd" to try to change it?
[16:29] <docmur> yes
[16:29] <nacc> Exterminador: hrm, that's somewhat surprising (to me); which session are you trying to login to? (e.g., xorg, wayland, etc. and what version of ubuntu)?
[16:29] <docmur> If there's a better way I'm all ears
[16:30] <Exterminador> Xubuntu 17.10 & Xubuntu session
[16:33] <docmur> F'ing YES!!!!!! I figured it out :D :D :D
[16:33] <docmur> haha
[16:33] <docmur> I just guessed the passwd over and over and over
[16:33] <nacc> Exterminador: sorry, i'm not familiar with xubuntu's greeter specifically, but on stock ubuntu, you can choose 'Gnome on Xorg' or 'Gnome on Wayland', e.g.
[16:33] <nacc> Exterminador: do you have those options?
[16:34] <TJ-> docmur: I experimented with this situation some time ago when I knew roughly what the password was, so I created a script that generated passwd entries for permutations
[16:35] <TJ-> docmur: you can do "getent passwd $USER" to get the existing entry which includes a code denoting the salt value and algorithm, then you can use those plus the permutations to try to recreate the same encrypted value, at which point you've got the original password
[16:35] <Exterminador> I have on the top right the option to choose XFCE session or Xubuntu. tried both and nothing. changed from Nvidia graphics driver to Xorg, uninstalled Nvidia stuff, rebooted and nothing
[16:36] <Exterminador> nacc:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oIwMD0J0/irccloudcapture1980445286.jpg
[16:37] <nacc> Exterminador: interesting, ok
[16:37] <docmur> TJ-  I actually figured it out :), I just guessed and guessed and guessed and finally it worked
[16:37] <docmur> this time I was very, very careful and reset to a known. good, password
[16:37] <nacc> Exterminador: it's possible xfce has another config direcotry
[16:38] <TJ-> docmur: Yay!
[16:38] <docmur> TJ- haha Yep!  That was scary for a bit :)
[16:39] <TJ-> Exterminador: have you created a new user account and confirmed that can log in - which'll tell you if it is a system-wide or per-user issue
[16:39] <nacc> TJ-: i believe they said that they were able to with a different user
[16:40] <TJ-> nacc: oh thanks, I have skipped a bit!
[16:40] <TJ-> docmur: Pro Tip: create a sudo-enabled alternate user for emergencies
[16:41] <DiecastMessiah> is there something to check my different lib's or something to reinstall them .. i remember way back i needed to install multi-arch or something to get 32bit software to run
[16:41] <Exterminador> I'll try to explain all the steps I've done before the issue occurs: I have this laptop with 3 OS's (Windows 10, Ubuntu 17.10 (the normal one) and Xubuntu 17.10). I've updated Xubuntu, restarted laptop, choosed the normal Ubuntu, updated the normal Ubuntu, restarted  laptop, entered Xubuntu, choosed my account and it entered in a login loop. but I can login to my son's account or to my wife account. just not mine. on normal
[16:41] <Exterminador> Ubuntu I can access any account tho.
[16:42] <TJ-> Exterminador: are Ubuntu and Xubuntu sharing the same /home/vitor directory, or they each have separate versions?
[16:43] <Exterminador>  TJ-, they're installed in different partions. so I think they don't interfere.
[16:44] <kostkon> DiecastMessiah, generally you install the 32bit version of a package like this  apt-get install pacakge_name:i386
[16:44] <TJ-> Exterminador: OK, so that datapoint doesn't help
[16:44] <VanceCole> Hello. Fresh install of 17.10, when I connect to my docking station X.org crashes, screen flickers about 20 times and then x.org comes back up to login screen but if I try to login x.org immediately crashes again. Laptop works fine undocked. Any suggestions?
[16:45] <VanceCole> Dell M4800
[16:45] <ibispi> try uninstalling display drivers if you have them installed
[16:45] <ibispi> i have a similar bug since the latest update
[16:46] <ibispi> i can't use my nvidia drivers now
[16:46] <DiecastMessiah> kostkon: thanks
[16:48] <DiecastMessiah> can anyone see a problem with this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MYwngsFgYF/
[16:49] <DiecastMessiah> maybe i need to disable my intel chip .. but it shouldn't be running to my knowledge
[16:50] <Exterminador> TJ-, nacc, I think that somehow the normal Ubuntu messed up things when generating the grub entries or wtv it's called after update. after I issued update-grub, in tty2 as root in Xubuntu, I'm able to login again.
[16:50] <nacc> Exterminador: that's odd; without rebooting?
[16:50] <Exterminador> yep. without rebooting
[16:50] <nacc> Exterminador: then that's a red herring
[16:50] <nacc> Exterminador: something else changed, update-grub doesn't change your running system
[16:51] <Exterminador> going to install Nvidia drivers now
[16:51] <TJ-> Exterminador: did you reboot after doing the update-grub ?
[16:51] <Exterminador> TJ-: I didn't
[16:52] <TJ-> Exterminador: hopefully it stays fixed
[16:53] <Exterminador> btw, I found something weird. what are the commands to properly reinstall grub and making the sda6 as the main OS (Xubuntu). because I'm seeing 2 entries of Windows 10 and I just have 1
[16:54] <Exterminador> and if possible without using live usb because isn't handy at all right now
[16:54] <Sircle> Apache question: I have 70 directories under /var/www/html/   Do I need to put <Directory for each of 70  or just something like <DirectoryMatch /var/www/html/*/.git/*> ?
[16:54] <Sircle> I want to ignore it
[16:55] <nathancahill> Have some odd behavior with Ubuntu Core (on Docker) vs Ubuntu Desktop
[16:55] <nathancahill> Fonts aren't being loaded from the file:// protocol in Firefox on Ubuntu Core
[16:55] <nathancahill> Works fine on Ubuntu Desktop though. Also works fine if they are served via http
[16:56] <TJ-> Sircle: stick to one channel' you've already asked in #httpd
[16:56] <nacc> nathancahill: i believe 'ubuntu core' support is in #snappy, as it's a snap-based image
[16:56] <nathancahill> Gotcha, thanks
[16:59] <VanceCole> I got my docking station working by disabling switchable graphics. Thanks.
[17:00] <Exterminador> erm.. after a restart, login issue again (with Nvidia drivers installed). and I'm seeing 2 windows entries on the boot manager and I'm quite sure I have only one Windows installed. how can I reinstall grub properly? to see if it fixes anything
[17:02] <akik> badcom: i've used them before, and they had bad usability every time
[17:04] <nacc> TJ-: and in response, they posted in #ubuntu-server...
[17:07] <akik> always simple to follow problem resolution when it's posted on three channels :P
[17:07] <TJ-> Exterminador: 2 windows entries could be the Recovery and Real partitions
[17:07] <Exterminador> still, how can I reinstall grub properly (too see if it changes anything).
[17:09] <Exterminador> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda?
[17:11] <TJ-> Exterminador: the menu is written by "update-grub"  - it uses os-prober to discover other operating systems
[17:24] <Exterminador> something must be well borked
[17:24] <Exterminador> I simply can't login again to my account
[17:25] <AmericanBlend> did you use ecryptfs?
[17:25] <AmericanBlend> is the user directory encrypted?
[17:25] <Exterminador> I didn't encrypted anything.
[17:26] <AmericanBlend> but during insallation, did you check the "encrypt user directory" option?
[17:26] <Exterminador> this happened after updating Xubuntu and Ubuntu at same time
[17:26] <Exterminador> AmericanBlend: nope, o didn't.
[17:26] <Exterminador> I*
[17:26] <Exterminador> it was working until I decided to update both OS's
[17:30] <AmericanBlend> is it a dual boot?
[17:34] <willc> would a missing service / .sh file cause a bootloop?
[17:34] <willc> It is the only thing I can think I did that is causing it to occur on my raspberrypi
[17:34] <willc> I moved a file into a dir that is a service
[17:40] <genewitch> When i boot off a USB installer, i can't move the cursor or continue the install on the "Language" screen. Keyboard input does nothing, even ctl-alt-del
[17:40] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, so I just wanted to install spotify and I have to install "snap" in order to do so.. Looks like snap is some new package management utility I don't know about.. So I've looked around a bit and its all "New and improved!! (tm)" with "Absolutely no drawbacks!!! (c)".. Anybody here who can give me a balanced opinion of how it works, and why I would not do this using apt?
[17:47] <Bootprob> 16.04, during regular update it went to grub bash. Allows to go to boot option menu and select shimx64.efi but that goes just back to mentioned bash
[17:48] <r4co0n> Is there a channel to ask questions about snapcraft, maybe on another irc network?
[17:50] <nacc> r4co0n: #snappy
[17:50] <r4co0n> nacc, thx
[17:50] <nacc> sven_oostenbrink: same for you
[17:52] <kostkon> sven_oostenbrink, you could start from here https://snapcraft.io/
[17:54] <Gunstick> Hi. Found a bug in libreoffice. Where should I submit the bug? Or where could I get help to make libreoffice work on my setup: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2385813&p=13743523#post13743523
[17:55] <nacc> !bug | Gunstick n
[17:55] <nacc> (ignore the stray n)
[17:55] <Exterminador> TJ-, nacc, seems that I've fixed it. I removed Nvidia drivers, removed .config and .local folders, and all seems to be working now ;)
[17:55] <nacc> Exterminador: fun :)
[17:55] <Gunstick> thanks
[17:57] <Exterminador> I'll try in a bit with the Nvidia drivers. still, I've found something, that's when I boot into Xubuntu I got something about jobs related to uDev something and dev-disk something
[17:58] <ibispi> Exterminador: have you tried this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1009725/login-loop-after-upgrading-to-4-4-0-116-kernel-graphical-login-screen-black/1009726
[17:59] <ibispi> i just tried this and solved my problem
[18:02] <Exterminador> ibispi: didn't tried, but I'm pretending to see if the problem is really related to Nvidia or something else
[18:02] <ibispi> ok
[18:03] <Exterminador> otherwise, I already know how to fix things
[18:03] <ibispi> k
[18:04] <Gunstick> thanks
[18:04] <Gunstick> so I added to the already existing bug I found on launchpad. bug is from 2014, and it's still existing (or is a regression) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1292407
[18:05] <Exterminador> and if it fails to login with Nvidia drivers, well, I don't need them honestly. I don't play on Linux (that's why I have Windows, just to play NFSMW)
[18:05] <Gunstick> will anyone look at that bug or will it be disregarded as it has en "expired" flag?
[18:07] <badcom> Hey guys
[18:08] <badcom> I've figured out the cause of the X server using up the CPU. It was due to Vine Server.
[18:08] <badcom> I ran "killall vino-server" and it solved the problem right away!
[18:08] <nacc> Gunstick: you should file a new bug
[18:09] <nacc> Gunstick: it's not obvious at all your is the same, evne if symptomatically it is
[18:09] <nacc> Gunstick: do you know the original bug submitter had a non-standard home?
[18:09] <Exterminador> ibispi: seems that removing .local and .config folders solved the problem also (maybe something using Nvidia drivers didn't update properly in one of those folders).
[18:11] <Gunstick> nacc: no, but the one in the forum had the same problem than me and hinted me at checking the non standard home. will file a new bug
[18:12] <nacc> Gunstick: sounds good
[18:12] <linux_> ubuntu
[18:12] <Gunstick> is it possible to file a new bug by copying/linking the info I wrote on the old bug?
[18:12] <linux_> need help with my ubuntu
[18:12] <linux_> *
[18:13] <nacc> Gunstick: not afaik, just c&p into a new bug and maybe mention the old bug
[18:13] <Gunstick> nacc: ok!
[18:15] <linux_> i keep getting black doc instead of my programs and the videos are keep glitching i think ther is some thing wrong with the instillation but i can't re install cuz i have valuable data
[18:15] <Exterminador> could someone take a look a the dmesg output -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KsRNcyJdgQ/ <- and tell me if anything looks wrong (except the lines from 807 to 815)?
[18:15] <linux_> if anyone can help me il be glad
[18:16] <linux_> i was thinking of upgrading to 17.10 but will i lose the data ?
[18:17] <linux_> i feel i am talking to my self ok thank you anyway guys sorry for bothering you
[18:18] <kostkon> linux_, from?
[18:18] <Gunstick> ok, done. Hoping for the best :-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1751854
[18:18] <kostkon> linux_, from 16.04?
 what do you mean by from pl be more specific
 yes
[18:19] <kostkon> linux_, do you really have to?
 yes its keep glitching
 its broking
 * broken
[18:20] <kostkon> linux_, i mean 17.10 will run out of support soon and you will be able to upgrade directly to 18.04 in a few months time
 i know but i need anything that can fix the problem without losing data
[18:21] <kostkon> linux_, what is the problem
 the videos are glitching and the left doc is turning black every time i restart
[18:22] <kostkon> linux_, is it really 16.04 or 17.04?
 it is 16.4
 i need to change the background every time so the doc can go back to the normal color
[18:23] <jhutchins_wk> linux_: If your data is valuable why don't you have a backup?
 and the vid glitch is annoying like i cant watch movies
[18:23] <kostkon> linux_, you could try resetting unity/compiz or enable lowfx mode in unity. also it could be something related to your graphics card and the driver in use
 i do in my win 10 pc
 but i dont wana restore them it will take so much time
[18:25] <kostkon> linux_, those are a few stop gap measures you could try until the release of 18.04. you could also upgrade to 18.04 right now although that is not advisable and you'd have to ask for support in #ubuntu+1, not here
 do ubuntu have like a tool can fix the errors like win 10 ?
 if the vid problem is fixed il be good
[18:27] <lexcurious> hey folks
 sorry for wasting your time btw
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> lexcurious: welcome, how can we help you?
[18:27] <kostkon> linux_, also backup your data before attempting to repair or upgrade
[18:27] <kostkon> linux_, we are here to help each other, don't worry about that
 i will ty anyway for the help not alot of ppl are like you
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | kostkon
[18:28] <kostkon> :)
 i think il just take the time to back it up into hard drive and install mint
[18:29] <[jasper]> hej guys, having some trouble with wifi handoff....I'm trying to set sensitivity but for some reason I get operation not permitted
[18:29] <[jasper]> any suggestions?
[18:29] <kostkon> linux_, ok, give that a try
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: you have a screenshot of that and ubuntu version?
 i feel tiered only thinking about it
[18:30] <[jasper]> lotuspsychje, screenshot of the operation not permitted?
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: yeah, where do you get that?
[18:31] <linux_> kostkon> anyway ty il go now stay safe
[18:31] <kostkon> linux_, i understand, but you should probably backup anyway,
[18:31] <kostkon> linux_, good luck
[18:32] <[jasper]> lotuspsychje, https://pasteboard.co/H9sMbA3.png
[18:34] <lexcurious> general questions for community : 1) did you faced any dll hell in ubuntu in recent 2 years? 2) is it error free to upgrade to new major version of distro? 3) what kind of automaded toolchains you use for declarative configuration as a code(ansible?) and environment versioning ? 4) how do you install multiple minor versions of package same time? e.g python 3.5.3 , python 3.6
[18:35] <mad_hatter> Hey folks. I'm getting this error "Can't open postfix/mailname: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/debconf-set-selections line 114" after running the command: debconf-set-selections <<< postfix postfix/mailname string 'dev.blah.com' ....any idea what could be causing this? Is the syntax correct?
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: it could be that your driver/card does not allow sensitivity?
[18:38] <[jasper]> maybe lotuspsychje.. but that would seriously suck
[18:38] <FrameFever> how can I connect from ubuntu to my files on my windows host 10?
[18:38] <FrameFever> is there a tutorial
[18:38] <FrameFever> I use ubuntu server only
[18:39] <FrameFever> I mean not copying, I want to share the files
[18:39] <[jasper]> getting almost a zero handoff on my phone...but laptop doesnt seem to want to transfer..
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: wich chipset and driver is that
[18:40] <[jasper]> lotuspsychje, intel product: Wireless 7260 running iwlwifi driver
[18:42] <lexcurious> I will appreciate of multiple people provide answers for my questions, I just want grasp general picture
[18:42] <loginoob> Hello, Please someone help me in detecting if my external drive can be fixed
[18:42] <loginoob> I beg you
[18:42] <loginoob> The light is on and i can hear the platter spinning
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: try gparted and different usb ports, and a smart test
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: https://askubuntu.com/questions/224999/ubuntu-wifi-roaming-problem-how-do-i-set-wireless-sensitivity-on-ubuntu
[18:45] <lexcurious> general questions for community : 1) did you faced any dll hell in ubuntu in recent 2 years? 2) is it error free to upgrade to new major version of distro? 3) what kind of automaded toolchains you use for declarative configuration as a code(ansible?) and environment versioning ? 4) how do you install multiple minor versions of package same time? e.g python 3.5.3 , python 3.6
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> lexcurious: how about you ask one question each time?
[18:46] <[jasper]> lotuspsychje,  how will that help me?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: one of the answers say some cards can set sensitivity
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> cant
[18:48] <srishti> hello
[18:48] <[jasper]> yeah. so thereś no way then I guess to set it? that's so messed up
[18:48] <[jasper]> how can iwconfig see the reception quality...and not be able to set a threshold....stupid..
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: i did not find much ubuntu bugs about it yet, how about you file a new !bug for your issue?
[18:50] <[jasper]> lotuspsychje, guess itś not a bug right? itś just not supported..
[18:51] <[jasper]> I set up this mesh network in my house....phone seams to handle it perfectly...so does ipad....but laptop refuses..
[18:51] <[jasper]> need to turn wifi off/on for it to reconnect to strongest AP
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: well with the bug you could help the community, findout what is really is about
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> lexcurious: for the python part, we reccomend using package version for your ubuntu version specificly, not mixing them
[18:56] <lexcurious> lotuspsychje but if person may need multiple versions of a package for development reasons?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> lexcurious: !backports or snaps
[18:58] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: Gparted is taking forever to scan device and when i remove the external drive it says cannot stat device /dev/sdb. No such file or directory
[18:58] <nacc> lexcurious: setup VMs, containers
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: try a smart test from disk tools?
[19:02] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: Disks does not show my drive. On the left hand there is disk Which show No media on right hand
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: ok, lets try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your hd
[19:03] <lexcurious> does anyone run configuration management tool on desktop\laptop ? like ansible . is it make sense?
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> lexcurious: this channel is not for polls, but for issues support
[19:04] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: Plugin my HD before running command or after?
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: plug after the command to catch errors, hastebin the results after please
[19:04] <loginoob> ok
[19:05] <lexcurious> lotuspsychje excuse me, I just wanted to poll community opinions
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> lexcurious: join #ubuntu-discuss if you like?
[19:06] <isleshocky771> Just installed Ubuntu 17.10 and my cordless keyboard is now not working. lsusb is showing the keyboard as well as the dongle; however, the keyboard won't work. Thoughts on getting this to work? It's a logitech mx5000
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> isleshocky771: did you pair mouse and keyboard?
[19:08] <isleshocky771> lotuspsychje: I've attempted to paid the keyboard using the internal bluetooth, the logitech dongle as bluetooth, and just the logitech dongle as the usb keyboard to no avail.
[19:08] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: Sir, this is the output http://lpaste.net/362924
[19:08] <isleshocky771> Note: I have a newer Performance MX Mouse plugged in with "it's" dongle and it works without issue.  I've attempted to use the keyboard and it's dongle separately.
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: this is a seagate 1TB?
[19:09] <loginoob> yes
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: i had same issue on ubuntu lately, can you try a reboot with usb cable in an usb 3.0 port before boot?
[19:11] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: Just a simple reboot with HD onnected to USB 3.0?
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: yeah can you try that plz
[19:12] <loginoob> ok, wait for me I'll be back
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: your tail doesnt show errors
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> isleshocky771: your dongle is usb or BT?
[19:14] <isleshocky771> lotuspsychje: apparently these logitech desktop systems used to come with dongles which could be used a USB keyboard or as a BT receiver.
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> isleshocky771: perhaps checkout your BT connections with blueman
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> [jasper]: another idea is to ask in #hardware if your chipset allow sensitivity
[19:21] <[jasper]> will give it a try
[19:21] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: Nothing happened
[19:21] <[jasper]> thx lotuspsychje
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: how many usb 3.0 ports do you have?
[19:22] <[jasper]> lotuspsychje, #hardware is currently invite only apparently
[19:22] <loginoob> One
[19:22] <[jasper]> oh nvm, wasn' identified
[19:22] <lotuspsychje>  [jasper] you need a register to join
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: holdon lemme get you my bug url
[19:23] <loginoob> ok
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe/+bug/1749237
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: try the command in #2 please
[19:27] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: for i in /sys/bus this one?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: yes
[19:30] <loginoob> did it. Nothing happened
[19:30] <loginoob> Is my drive faulty?
[19:31] <sere> anyone know why when i try to install to sd from a live usb it doesnt see my card.. this computer does and yesterday it was seeing it after i format. i do see when i start to the installer my my internal drives dissappare.
[19:31] <sere> 16.04 btw
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: dont think so
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: bbl mate
[19:33] <sere> loginoob: are you trying to install to sd aswell?
[19:34] <loginoob> sere: sorry i didn't understand
[19:35] <sere> loginoob: are you installing to and SD card or usb.. im having the same trouble but the and sd card.. what helped me was formating to unused or free and then starting the installer
[19:38] <loginoob> sere: No not installing to sd card
[19:56] <CarlFK> xenial desktop, boots to default login screen, it is waiting for a login. (good)  I am sshed in.  I want to run a gui app (lets say xterm) on the local display.  so I think I need to log in the desktop session?
[19:56] <nacc> CarlFK: 'local' in what sense?
[19:56] <CarlFK> juser@gator:~$ DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm ... Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxterm: Xt error: Can't open display: :0.0
[19:56] <nacc> CarlFK: as in your display (ssh client)? or the monitor connected to the desktop?
[19:57] <CarlFK> the connected monitor
[19:57] <nacc> CarlFK: i believe you need to setup your environment correctly to do that (DISPLAY at a minimum, probably other thigns)
[19:58] <CarlFK> I am guessing my user doesn't have access to the display yet
[19:59] <CarlFK> I think I want: command line login to the display manager?   (im on the edge of understanding what terms to use for what processes that do what I need.)
[19:59] <leftyfb> CarlFK: ssh -X <hostname>    ... then try running your app
[20:00] <leftyfb> oh, maybe I'm wrong
[20:00] <nacc> CarlFK: that's not really a thing
[20:00] <nacc> leftyfb: no, that'd forward X
[20:00] <nacc> (i think)
[20:00] <leftyfb> actually, it'll work
[20:00] <leftyfb> well, not the -X''
[20:00] <CarlFK> -X runs it on my ssh client box (bad)
[20:01] <leftyfb> do you want the GUI application to pop up on the remove machine or your local where the ssh client is?
[20:01] <CarlFK> remote
[20:03] <leftyfb> CarlFK: login to remote via ssh, then: export DISPLAY=:0 ; xterm
[20:03] <CarlFK> juser@gator:~$ DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm ... Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxterm: Xt error: Can't open display: :0.0
[20:03] <CarlFK> gator is the remote box.
[20:03] <nacc> CarlFK: that was not the value leftyfb said
[20:03] <CarlFK> im sure if I walk over and log in, then that should work.
[20:04] <CarlFK> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyxterm: Xt error: Can't open display: :0
[20:04] <leftyfb> CarlFK: export DISPLAY=:0 ; xterm
[20:04] <CarlFK> leftyfb: same thing
[20:04] <leftyfb> pastebin please
[20:05] <leftyfb> CarlFK: also, do you have a GUI running on the remote?
[20:05] <nacc> CarlFK: and what's the remote OS/version?
[20:05] <CarlFK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t6CGfk5h4j/
[20:05] <leftyfb> CarlFK: on the remote, type: echo $DISPLAY
[20:06] <CarlFK> 16.04.4  - desktop
[20:06] <CarlFK> juser@gator:~$ echo $DISPLAY
[20:06] <CarlFK> :0
[20:10] <leftyfb> odd
[20:10] <leftyfb> it should be working
[20:13] <CarlFK> leftyfb: juser doesn't have access to the gui 'yet'
[20:13] <leftyfb> huh?
[20:13] <CarlFK> I am sure I need to make that login looking screen turn into a desktop looking screen
[20:13] <leftyfb> CarlFK: oh, so you're not logged in yet?
[20:14] <leftyfb> you'll need to be logged in ... you can't run an application on the greeter screen
[20:14] <leftyfb> it's not a DE
[20:14] <CarlFK> im logged in to an ssh session.  the gui is still at the login screen.
[20:14] <Iam1> if you're trying to get a gui apt-get install ubuntu-desktop worked for me
[20:14] <CarlFK> I think I want: command line login to the display manager?   (im on the edge of understanding what terms to use for what processes that do what I need.)
[20:16] <Iam1> if I want to choose between gui and command line only I just login at either normal or in recover mode
[20:16] <Iam1> but I'm late in the conversation hope I"m not out of context
[20:17] <CarlFK> Iam1: im sshed in.  I want to make the login gui go away and the user's desktop appear.
[20:17] <leftyfb> CarlFK: you need to be logged in on the desktop as well
[20:18] <leftyfb> CarlFK: you can probably look how to set the machine to automatically login to the desktop via command line and restart lightdm or reboot
[20:18] <nacc> CarlFK: what are you actually trying to achive?
[20:18] <leftyfb> CarlFK: you could also maybe try to run x11vnc, login with vnc and then login to your desktop
[20:19] <CarlFK> nacc: run a video mixer and visually verify that a test pattern is displayed
[20:22] <Iam1> You could have a look here it says to use the -X option with the ssl command https://askubuntu.com/questions/199727/log-into-desktop-using-ssh
[20:23] <nacc> Iam1: not relevant in this case
[20:23] <nacc> Iam1: and ssh not ssl :)
[20:23] <Iam1> sorry
[20:23] <dingir> hi
[20:23] <nacc> CarlFK: ah i see
[20:23] <CarlFK> the ssh client is over a wifi link.  I don't want to be sending video data over any network link.
[20:23] <dingir> is it normal my port forwarding not working when vpn is enabled?
[20:23] <nacc> CarlFK: well, the issue is there is no remote X session yet
[20:23] <mikubuntu> haaaaalp. just did an update on my laptop and it never finished installing but stopped on a black screen that said something about grub and minimal bash and press tab for commands
[20:24] <CarlFK> nacc - right.  that's why I wanted a CLI to make that happen.
[20:24] <Iam1> I'm wearing 'L' plates here :)
[20:25] <dingir> when when i enable vpn on my computer i cannot connect to servers?
[20:25] <dingir> how to enable sshd when vpn is active?
[20:25] <nacc> CarlFK: maybe relevant
[20:25] <nacc> CarlFK: https://superuser.com/questions/1072949/lightdm-and-desktop-session-control-by-command-line
[20:26] <mikubuntu> so i have two laptops in front of me now, borrowed mom's to get into help channel and i started a live session of Vinux which was the only live USB i have laying around. the unit did start up and is "working" with vinux, but i don't know much about it.
[20:27] <CarlFK> nacc: that might be it.  I gave up and typed in the pw on the gui's keyboard
[20:27] <CarlFK> but I'll leave that in a tab and try it later
[20:28] <mikubuntu> let me join the vinux channel to see how i pull up a terminal on that box
[20:29] <Iam1> There's an article here about howto using vmware https://pubs.vmware.com/view-51/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.view.installation.doc%2FGUID-CEBAB8FF-A185-4947-A6F6-ACFAD0583CE5.html
[20:33] <mikubuntu> anyone else have this problem on a recent update?
[20:34] <nicebu> just for logs: https://pastebin.com/nmdRUY6h   -   dax aka rww aka ro aka pweh aka rw aka dax_ doxed  Robert William Wall robert@rww.name robertlikesturtles@gmail.com freenode operator ubuntu
[20:34] <nicebu> just for logs: https://pastebin.com/nmdRUY6h   -   dax aka rww aka ro aka pweh aka rw aka dax_ doxed  Robert William Wall robert@rww.name robertlikesturtles@gmail.com freenode operator ubuntu
[20:34] <nicebu> dox reason: being an asshole to freenode users
[20:34] <nicebu>  
[20:45] <FrameFever> how can I mount a harddisk fron my windows system on my ubuntu server version?
[20:51] <linux_> anyone have an interesting chat
[20:52] <FrameFever> hey
[20:52] <FrameFever> linux
[20:52] <linux_> hi
[20:52] <FrameFever> I want to connect my windows drive to my ubuntu server
[20:52] <FrameFever> how can I do that?
[20:52] <linux_> idk man hope someone can help you
[20:53] <FrameFever> ^^
[20:53] <FrameFever> yes I hope so too
[20:55] <TJ-> FrameFever: assuming the NTFS was safely unmounted within Windows it should be auto-detected and mounted via udisks
[20:56] <TJ-> FrameFever: otherwise, create a mountpoint and mount it, e.g. "sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs; sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/ntfs" - it depends if you have the ntfsprogs tools installed I think
[20:57] <TJ-> !info ntfs-3g
[20:58] <FrameFever> TJ-: ahh you mean, I have to check first, whether I have the harddisk visible?
[20:58] <FrameFever> under /dev/sd...
[20:58] <TJ-> FrameFever: yes; "lsblk -f" may help identify it
[20:58] <memphisto> yes, do lsblk -f to check for ntfs paritiion
[20:58] <memphisto> :)
[20:59] <jayjo_> is there a way to inspect what gui framework is being used in a java app running on ubuntu?
[20:59] <FrameFever> TJ-: └─sda1 ext4         1ec2cac8-a94e-4805-bd2f-4fb2d34b1be3 /
[20:59] <FrameFever> this is what I got
[20:59] <FrameFever> my ubuntu runs on a vmware
[21:00] <TJ-> FrameFever: well that is just the Linux root file-systen
[21:00] <TJ-> FrameFever: oh, well, then you'll need to use some VMware specific method to pass the NTFS file-system/device through to the guest
[21:01] <memphisto> FrameFever: do you really need the whole drive in linux or a folder
[21:01] <memphisto> you can share a folder with vmware
[21:01] <ioc_> jayjo_, I'd search for the identifiers in the .class files, that is, unpack the jar >> grep -R javax.swing unpacked_directory
[21:01] <FrameFever> memphisto: just a folder is fine
[21:01] <ioc_> jayjo_, that won't tell you what is being used, but what the app links to (which *should* be the same)
[21:02] <memphisto> i don't know vmware by heart but go to VM settings and go to shared folder
[21:02] <memphisto> and just add it
[21:02] <FrameFever> can I not connect to some folder via smb?
[21:02] <FrameFever> or connect via computer name?
[21:02] <memphisto> you could do that too
[21:03] <memphisto> but why not use vmware tools if you have them already
[21:04] <memphisto> FrameFever: https://askubuntu.com/questions/29284/how-do-i-mount-shared-folders-in-ubuntu-using-vmware-tools
[21:04] <memphisto> or this link from vmware https://pubs.vmware.com/workstation-9/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.ws.using.doc%2FGUID-AB5C80FE-9B8A-4899-8186-3DB8201B1758.html
[21:04] <ioc_> smb/domain require the VM to be on the same network as windows, which may not be the case if the networking mode is NAT (besides they may/should be slower than shared folders or IDE/SATA virtual disk)
[21:05] <ioc_> (but how much that matters in practice would depend on the context of what you're doing with the vm)
[21:05] <ericus> my /boot is full
[21:05] <ericus> what do I do?
[21:05] <memphisto> ls /boot
[21:05] <memphisto> check for the previous kernels and remove them with apt
[21:06] <ericus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zBxdDgMhGg
[21:06] <TJ-> ericus: "sudo apt autoremove" but if that fails manually remove un-needed initrd.img files. I have a script that automates it at http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/apt-autoremove-old-kernels
[21:08] <memphisto> ericus: so remove 4.4.x series first
[21:08] <memphisto> and then if need remove the 4.13.0-31
[21:08] <TJ-> ericus: you've got a custom kernel there with no obvious related initrd.img: retpoline-4.13.0-36-generic
[21:09] <ziplerk_> hello
[21:09] <ziplerk_> is anyoe here
[21:09] <ziplerk_> can't begin the docker service it fails
[21:09] <ziplerk_> url: https://ptpb.pw/f0ua
[21:09] <ziplerk_> what's the cause
[21:09] <energizer> In gnome, how do i enable the launcher on all monitors?
[21:09] <ioc_> retpoline shouldbe there, it was introduced for spectre/meltdown
[21:09] <ericus> TJ- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BsY7Wp8T9D/
[21:10] <TJ-> ericus: so you have no autoremove candidates
[21:11] <TJ-> ericus: what capacity is the /boot/ device? "df -h "
[21:12] <energizer> got it
[21:14] <ericus>   /dev/sda2                    237M  120M  105M  54% /boot
[21:14] <ericus> after removing  $ sudo rm initrd.img-4.13.0-31-generic
[21:15] <memphisto> ericus: manually remove 4.4 seris ; apt remove linux-*-4.13.0-31
[21:15] <memphisto> sorry, same cmd for 4.4 series
[21:16] <memphisto>  /boot usually around 500M
[21:19] <memphisto> ziplerk_: does it work with older kernel versions ?
[21:19] <memphisto> it seems it can't find some module
[21:19] <ziplerk_> how'd you know the problem is old kernel
[21:20] <TJ-> ericus: you could reduce the size of the initrd.img files; they contain almost all kernel modules but only need the modules required to boot. You can change that in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and set MODULES=dep and then "sudo update-initramfs -u -k all"  should reduce initrd.img size from 50MB to 25MB
[21:20] <memphisto> no, you have newer kernel you have 4.15.5-1
[21:20] <ph88> how does the upgrade go from 18.04 feature freeze version to stable when it's out ?
[21:20] <memphisto> could you boot to older vesion of kernel and try
[21:21] <TJ-> ph88: same as all other upgrades, "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:21] <memphisto> if it works we then have to figure out how to get those modules for current kernel
[21:23] <ph88> will wayland give me any benefits as user ?
[21:23] <memphisto> ph88: not yet
[21:23] <ph88> not even enhanced battery life or so
[21:23] <memphisto> hence not default on 18.04
[21:24] <mikubuntu> ok guys i got some help in #vinux, but my guy had to go -- can anyone walk me through last steps? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cqwzQFQgYQ/
[21:24] <Anelito> hi everyone
[21:25] <Anelito> I am facing a very weird situation
[21:25] <leftyfb> mikubuntu: sorry, Vinux is not supported here
[21:26] <leftyfb> Anelito: you'll need to detail your issue if you would like someone to help you with it
[21:26] <Anelito> I lost access to a VM and the only interaction possible is uploading bash scripts via cloud provider console
[21:26] <mikubuntu> i'm not trying to fix a vinux just using the live terminal to fix my lubuntu 1604 that broke on update couple hours ago
[21:26] <leftyfb> Anelito: can't you contact your provider?
[21:27] <Anelito> how can I reset the SSH (like setting a temp dummy password) using a shell script? Thanks
[21:27] <Anelito> leftyfb yeah, in the meanwhile I was also looking for other solutions
[21:27] <leftyfb> Anelito: what did you do to lose access?
[21:28] <Anelito> lost the certificate in a backup
[21:28] <mikubuntu> leftyfb  i'm not trying to fix a vinux just using the live terminal to fix my lubuntu 1604 that broke on update couple hours ago
[21:28] <leftyfb> certificate?
[21:28] <leftyfb> Anelito: you mean the ssh key?
[21:28] <Anelito> yes
[21:29] <leftyfb> Anelito: did you disable password login via ssh?
[21:29] <Anelito> yes
[21:29] <leftyfb> Anelito: ok, so enable "PasswordAuthentication yes" in sshd_config and restart the service
[21:30] <Anelito> and how to set the password?
[21:30] <leftyfb> Anelito: the password is the same password you use for sudo
[21:36] <Seburo> Hi.  I am trying to install gparted from Software in Ubuntu 17.10.  It is shown as installed in Gnome, when I select it it asks for my password, but the main gparted display does not open.  Please can I have some help?
[21:37] <VanceCole> I joined my PC to a windows AD domain, in nautilus I can open various SMB shares at smb://<share-name> but I don't see where they are being mounted, can I access these shares without manually mounting each one in fstab? (theres a lot)
[21:37] <memphisto> open terminal and run it from there it should write some errors ..start from there
[21:37] <memphisto> Seburo: open terminal and run it from there it should write some errors ..start from there
[21:38] <leftyfb> VanceCole: it used to be somewhere in ~/.gvfs/
[21:38] <memphisto> VanceCole: i'm in kde but i think you can bookmark them in nautiuls too as in dolphin.
[21:39] <Seburo> memphisto:  Thanks.  I tried and got "(gpartedbin:2308): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0".
[21:39] <martin___> #list
[21:39] <memphisto> Seburo: sudo su first to be root
[21:39] <memphisto> then ran gparted
[21:39] <memphisto> or sudo gparted from terminal
[21:40] <martin___> NIGGA!
[21:40] <Seburo> memphisto:  Yes, that is what I did to get that error.
[21:40] <VanceCole> leftyfb: thanks, I'm on 17.10 so its not in .gvfs but that helped me google what I needed and I found them in /run/user/<username>/gvfs
[21:40] <martin___> I LOVE FEDORA!
[21:41] <leftyfb> !ops | martin___
[21:41] <ioc_> Seburo, pkexec gparted
[21:41] <memphisto> Seburo: add Defaults env_keep=DISPLAY in sudoers and try again
[21:41] <martin___> Hello!
[21:42] <ioc_> memphisto, Seburo don't use root for graphical applications, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[21:42] <ioc_> don't mess with sudoers, pkexec is THE way nowadays
[21:43] <leftyfb> you shouldn't be using any sort of sudo for mounting samba shares through nautilus anyway.
[21:43] <ioc_> (once upon a time there were gksudo/kdesudo but still not sudo)
[21:43] <leftyfb> !ops | oeji2j
[21:44] <oeji2j> Hello
[21:45] <leftyfb> oeji2j: we get it, you don't like ubuntu and are here to troll. How original. Just skip to the end please.
[21:50] <Seburo> mempisto: I have tried that, still no joy.
[21:53] <avallark> hello all :) has anyone managed to get their nvidia drivers working on 17.10?
[21:53] <Seburo> memphisto:  I have tried that, still no joy.
[21:54] <memphisto> Seburo: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=127648
[21:54] <darthearon> Hi, i have just installed ubuntu 16.04.3 amd64 on a dell poweredge r710 though the IDRAC utility. I have tried installing using LVM and not using LVM. I always get to the grub rescue prompt with errors running ls. "error reading first sector 0x0 from hd1, same from hd2 and hd3. running ls on hd0 just shows unknown filesystems. everything i can find seems to about software raids, not hardware raids. raid 6 on 6x2TB hardrives. 8tb v
[21:55] <darthearon> could anyone point me in the right direction?
[21:55] <Seburo> memphisto:  Thanks, I will look into that and give it a try.  Thanks again, bye :-)
[21:56] <avallark> the nouveau driver sucks major ass
[21:56] <darthearon> that was ubuntu server edition.
[21:56] <SnugglyOwO> Hi kwo
[21:56] <darthearon> avallark: yeah, ive gotten it to work before. rocket leuge was beautful on a 1070
[21:56] <SnugglyOwO> Owo
[21:57]  * SnugglyOwO snuggles darthearon -3-
[21:57] <nacc> darthearon: they have left
[21:57] <nacc> SnugglyOwO: please stay ontopic.
[21:57] <nacc> darthearon: so you can't even get into the installer?
[21:57] <SnugglyOwO> Awww :<
[21:57]  * SnugglyOwO nuzzles nacc :3
[21:57] <SnugglyOwO> XDDD
[21:57] <nacc> SnugglyOwO: please stop.
[21:57] <SnugglyOwO> B-but why?
[21:58] <SnugglyOwO> ;_;
[21:58] <SnugglyOwO> Do you have a big OwO
[21:58] <SnugglyOwO> ;3
[21:58] <nacc> SnugglyOwO: this is a support channel, not for chitchat, please respect the channel's rules.
[21:58] <memphisto> darthearon: you have raid 6 on 6 drives? why not separare OS and data as two raids
[21:58] <SnugglyOwO> Or a smol owo
[21:58] <nacc> dax: thank you
[21:59] <darthearon> nacc: Sorry, i saw that just after i hit enter. also, yes i get into the installer. everything about the installer works fine. its once the system reboots that i get to the grub rescue prompt. so the bootloader is at least installed if not configured properly.
[21:59] <nacc> darthearon: ah ok, so the installer env clearly recognizes the env
[21:59] <darthearon> memphisto: that would be better practice, and better in the long term. Thanks for the advice.
[21:59] <nacc> darthearon: s/env/hardware/
[22:00] <darthearon> nacc: is that something i should run at the grub rescue prompt? from a life cd?
[22:00] <memphisto> darthearon: since its not working, why not reconfigure the raid first and start the new install
[22:01] <memphisto> when install finishes don't reboot but go to terminal and check
[22:01] <memphisto> grub.cfg
[22:02] <nacc> darthearon: i'm reading up on it, it does appear to ahve been certified on 14.04
[22:02] <darthearon> memphisto: memphisto ahhh. cool. thank you all. ill let you guys know how it went. might be a bit since it took 5 ish hours to initilize the raid 6. is there any downside to using the fast initilization? sorry for spelling
[22:03] <memphisto> i've configured only hpe servers but never had it take so long
[22:05] <darthearon> honestly. i havent messed with raid much before this. well, a bit at work, but those were all stood up before my time there.
[22:08] <nacc> darthearon: so your bootable partition is also raid6?
[22:12] <memphisto> are all the drives 2TB ?
[22:12] <darthearon> yes.
[22:12] <memphisto> darthearon: don't you have something smaller for the OS
[22:12] <darthearon> all the raids are configured sucessfully. rebooting to install os now
[22:13] <nacc> darthearon: it's sort of non-typical for the boot partition to be a more complicated RAID
[22:13] <nacc> darthearon: you typically want it as simple as possible (IME), e.g. maybe a RAID1 mirroring across all the disks?)
[22:13] <darthearon> i went with a 4x2tb drives in raid5 for Data, and 2x2tb drive in raid0 for OS.
[22:15] <darthearon> i wanted to get more data out of drives. this configuration allows for 8tb. i was just thinking raid6 would give me more redundancy. i guess this is where experiance comes in.
[22:16] <TJ-> RAID-0 for the OS? that's asking for problems :)
[22:16] <darthearon> im sorry, typeo Raid1 for os
[22:16] <memphisto> oh
[22:16] <memphisto> 2TB for OS only that a waste
[22:19] <TJ-> I generally use around 8GB for rootfs, 8GB for /var, 1GB for /usr/local and 750MB for /boot/
[22:19] <Iam1> can anyone recommend a good 'free' CSS tutorial?
[22:20] <Iam1> sick of paying for out of date ones on Lynda
[22:20] <TJ-> Iam1: w3schools I think, and the mozilla developers network
[22:20] <Iam1> cheers TJ will check them out
[22:22] <courrier> Got disconnected by the same network I/O bug ;-(
[22:22] <TJ-> Iam1: for W3school https://www.w3schools.com/Css/ and MDN: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference#Concepts
[22:23] <Iam1> TJ, thanks very much I'm there its fantastic
[22:24] <TJ-> Iam1: there are several channels from Mozilla on their IRC server at irc.mozilla.org for web devs where you might get help and discussion
[22:28] <courrier> Dmesg call trace mentions r8152,  do you think it could be the thing that randomly paralyses my system? http://paste.debian.net/1012139/
[22:29] <courrier> that would mak sense since network I/O then become blocking
[22:30] <TJ-> courrier: that looks like the USB device is going into auto power save mode; it is possible to disable that via sysfs, and you may need a udev rule at boot-time to set that permanently if that is the case
[22:32] <imalison> Is there a published reference on the appindicator protocol?
[22:32] <imalison> If I wanted to implement appindicator in my own desktop environment is there a way i could go about doing this?
[22:33] <avallark> sorry, i got disconnected. Anyone had any success with nvidia drivers on 17.10 ? I have been struggling for the last 6 hours!
[22:34] <darthearon> avallark: yeah, ive gotten it to work before. rocket leuge was beautful on a 1070
[22:34] <courrier> TJ- Does "options usbcore autosuspend=1" in /etc/modprobe.d/usb.conf (not currently existing) look OK?
[22:34] <avallark> darthearon: did it work out of the box?
[22:35] <darthearon> just go to addition drivers (search from within unity) and select the propriatary package and allow them to take care of it. are you trying to download it from nvidia? you have to kill x and alot of other "akward for a driver installation" type things.
[22:35] <darthearon> *additional drivers
[22:35] <courrier> TJ-  Or would it be smarter and/or possible to keep HWE for display only (the reason for which I installed HWE) but keep old drivers for the rest that was previously stable?
[22:36] <darthearon> HWE?
[22:36] <avallark> darthearon: the additional driver way does not work for me, nor does the download from nvidia directly. GDM just goes on a forever loop on trying to bring up X.
[22:36] <nacc> darthearon: HardWare Enablement stack
[22:36] <nacc> !hwe | darthearon
[22:36] <nacc> courrier: you can't mix drivers like that
[22:36] <ioc_> imalison, you may want to ask in a de-specific channel, e.g. #xfce #kde
[22:38] <avallark> i am going to do another reboot and see if i can revive my nouveau. After ranting about nouveau drivers for the past 2 hours, finally thats all i have got! :(
[22:38] <avallark> \afk
[22:38]  * avallark says 'duh'
[22:41] <darthearon> ITS ALIVE!!!, thank you  nacc and memphisto! it boots with the new configurations.
[22:42] <nacc> darthearon: nice
[22:44] <courrier> nacc: mmh OK :( I'm wondering wether it's worth leaving the LTS. Is 4.13.0-36-generic different from the kernel that I would have with the last non-LTS or is it likely to have the same bugs?
[22:44] <nacc> courrier: it's the same
[22:45] <nacc> courrier: you could try the edge hwe kernel, or you could try 18.04
[22:45] <AmericanBlend> how's the progress in 18.04?
[22:46] <gordonjcp> I've been using 18.04 for a bit
[22:46] <gordonjcp> you really want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:47] <AmericanBlend> thanks
[22:50] <courrier> nacc: OK I'll try the edge kernel. Looks a highly experimental option though. If I'm switching to this kernel, it might be re-updated very fast and thus either break (if it fixed it) or revive (if it was still buggy) my system in a couple of days after a new apt upgrade, right?
[22:50] <nacc> courrier: right, it's mostly for testing the next hwe stack (16.04.4., in this case), aiui
[22:50] <nacc> courrier: do you *need* the hwe stack, though?
[22:51] <pedrocr> I get quite a bit of screen tearing in 16.04 with Gnome that I didn't get with Unity
[22:51] <pedrocr> any tips on how to fix it?
[22:51] <TJ-> courrier: I'd try the autosuspend option first, it seems the most likely to help
[22:52] <TJ-> courrier: usb autosuspend is a common issue too
[22:54] <courrier> nacc: well, I first isntall HWE to fix my display issue that looks very close to this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93578
[22:54] <courrier> Issue was that disconnecting my laptop from USB-C workstation made it fully crashing after next resuming from suspend (randomly with or without kernel panic)
[22:56] <courrier> TJ-: yes, ok, thanks! Just to check, does it happen in /etc/modprobe.d/usb.conf?
[22:57] <ioc_> hwe can be tested on a live dvd without installing
[23:02] <drmtmych> Hi everybody
[23:06] <sleepee> hello people
[23:07] <TJ-> courrier: I believe so, that stops it for all devices. I'm more used to doing it on a per-device basis via the sysfs nodes /sys/bus/usb/.../power/control
[23:16] <Iam1> TJ, thanks again for your tip, it's not rocket science is it.
[23:23] <Delta706> I had a package dependency issue which I think was caused by a power loss during package installation. Is there any way to install packages which recovers cleanly? Or do most users just use a UPS these days?
[23:24] <hggdh> Delta706: usually apt -f install will recover from missing dependencies
[23:27] <Allanis> Well that was weird.
[23:27] <sleepee> soooo... i messed around and installed the pantheon desktop on my ubuntu 17.10 install.  it was nice, but i didn't like having duplicate applications for the same things, so i uninstalled pantheon.  then i was left with a "settings" application that is not exactly what came by default on ubuntu.  wtf did i do?  is there no way of getting back my default settings application without re-installing ubuntu?
[23:27] <Allanis> I'm sat at my desktop, laptop is beside me, and all of a sudden it dies...
[23:27] <Allanis> It did give me some message in the terminal, but I have no idea what, didn't catch it before powering off.
[23:28] <Allanis> Well now I feel stupid.
[23:28] <Allanis> Laptops tend to die when not plugged in all day. :D
[23:37] <garyserj> I have a file called 'in', and it has one line that says user@3.4.5.6  and I want to run ssh user@3.4.5.6  I tried ssh $('cat in')  but that didn't work.. What should I run?
[23:38] <dax> garyserj: does it work without the 'quotes'?
[23:39] <garyserj> with no quotes it says "Name or service not knownname 165.227.238.144"
[23:39] <garyserj> with quotes it says "-bash: cat in: command not found"
[23:40] <garyserj> without quotes is better. echo $(cat in)  displays the user@ip
[23:40] <garyserj> but ssh $(cat in) doesn't work
[23:40] <dax> does ssh user@ip work
[23:40] <garyserj> yes
[23:40] <Howie69> Any reccomendations to recover data off of a microSD card that seems to show up as RAW partition?  Testdisk or PhotoRec work with these things?
[23:40] <dax> 'cause ssh $(cat in) works fine for me
[23:41] <garyserj> hmm ok
[23:41] <Allanis> garyserj: The same doesn't work here.
[23:42] <garyserj> so it works for dax and doesn't work for you allanis?
[23:42] <Allanis> Mhm.
[23:42] <Allanis> Just seems to hang for me.
[23:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[23:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> is there a way to check what application is using GPU RAm?
[23:43] <garyserj> Allanis: oh so maybe it is working for oyu then.. ssh user@ip sohuld hang ;-)
[23:43] <Allanis> Nope I can get into the host fine.
[23:44] <Allanis> So.
[23:45] <Allanis> I used verbose.
[23:45] <Allanis> allanis@sccs:~$ ssh $(cat in)
[23:45] <Allanis> OpenSSH_7.5p1 Ubuntu-10ubuntu0.1, OpenSSL 1.0.2g  1 Mar 2016
[23:45] <Allanis> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[23:45] <Allanis> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[23:45] <Allanis> debug1: Connecting to saracraf.org [92.242.132.16] port 22.
[23:46] <garyserj> yeah that's good. thanks
[23:46] <Allanis> And that's pretty much where it dies.
[23:46] <garyserj> well maybe it'd hang if you called it just straight
[23:46] <garyserj> ssh user@ip
[23:46] <Allanis> Nope calling it right from the terminal gives me a connection.
[23:46] <Allanis> But it's not establishing a connection by passing in the file.
[23:46] <garyserj> strange
[23:47] <Allanis> allanis@sccs:~$ ssh $(cat in)
[23:47] <Allanis> saracraf@saracraft.org's password
[23:47] <Allanis> Got it. ^.^
[23:48] <TJ-> garyserj: Allanis is there a hidden linefeed character being read from the file?
[23:48] <Allanis> TJ-: typo.
[23:48] <garyserj> hmm now it works for me. My one had a line ending issue.
[23:49] <TJ-> ahhhh
[23:49] <Allanis> Yeah, that'll do it.
[23:52] <stoopkid> anybody know anything about downloading packages on an online 16.04 to be installed onto an offline 14.04 that has no GUI? i'm struggling to figure out where to even begin.
[23:58] <stoopkid> i'm having so much trouble with it i probably could've just rewritten the software i need on the offline computer at this point instead of trying to get all the required packages installed lol
[23:58] <Bashing-om>  stoopkid: If you know the packages that you need: https://packages.ubuntu.com/ is one source .
[23:59] <nacc> stoopkid: you mean the packages *for* 14.04?