[00:00] I think it just goes into sleep mode [00:00] TJ-: I'm not very saavy with terminology but I'm just looking for a simple way to tab contents in a sub folder without puking it's content out into the place it's linked [00:01] The stupid sub dir only exists for organization , but is causing functional problems for apache [00:01] pirx: usually it's in the power settings, possibly via a battery icon in the taskbar [00:04] does anyone know how to change the firefox icon to the nice blue quantum one? [00:07] can anyone tell me where the launcher icons are set? [00:07] hey guys .. would someone be able to run an apt command for me? I'm on Solus and do not have apt available but I need some package URLs for my Ubuntu server which no longer has functioning networking [00:08] the command: sudo apt-get -qq --print-uris install build-essential linux-headers-3.19.0-84-generic | cut -d\' -f 2 > urls.txt [00:09] macca: On the desktop, you can right click and set icon. [00:10] I need to put the icon on the desktop first it's using the old firefox icon after I updated to quantum [00:11] maybe drag it onto the desktop would that work? [00:11] Thanks for the answer btw :) [00:11] macca: check in /usr/share/applications [00:11] cheers [00:12] the quantum icon isn't blue though [00:12] that's the firefox nightly icon I think [00:13] see https://wiki.mozilla.org/Nightly [00:14] macca: I use this in the .desktop file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ymVrb3q8rm/ [00:15] macca: I've got it installed at /opt/mozilla/firefox/nightly/ so adjust path to suit [00:15] The icons are in there but nothing in properties to change them [00:16] macca: you have to edit the .desktop file; it's with in /usr/share/applications/ /usr/local/share/applications/ or possibly $HOME/.local/share/applications/ [00:17] many thanks [00:20] found it using "locate firefox.desktop" [00:20] thanks guys [00:25] im trying to point grub to my sd card since i cant boot from the bios : how can i find out the hardware address like (hd0, 0) of the sd. [00:25] that grub uses [00:27] sere: that depends on what order the system firmware/BIOS has listed the devices [00:29] gonna reboot to see if my fix worked brb [00:29] the blue icon is in Icon=/opt/firefox/browser/chrome/icons/default/default128.png [00:31] I can't set sort-directories-first neither with a vendor override (org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser) nor with a dconf local profile keyfile (org/gtk/settings/file-chooser). Anyone managed to configure it with any technique or is it now only possible by using interactive/graphic applications ? [00:32] TJ- ok cool i will play with it.. all i need to do is boot it and im good.. i guess i could reinstall and boot off usb [00:33] wtg thanks guys it's lovely blue icon now :P [00:35] sere: does the system firmware not boot into GRUB on the SD card? [00:35] did you try holding down shift while you booted? [00:36] that should open grub I think [00:36] macca: it's Escape now, and it needs tapping not holding down (due to EFI) [00:36] hello [00:37] things change every blooming day lol [00:37] shift works for me [00:37] macca: it'll work on BIOS but not for EFI, whereas Escape works for both [00:37] ok thanks [00:38] never hurts to learn [00:38] can someone help me to use gnome on ubuntu, i don't now how to do it please [00:38] macca: this is because on a BIOS boot GRUB can directly read the I/O port where the keyboard status bits for Shift/Alt/Ctrl are stored to get their state, but EFI services don't provide that access [00:38] EFI only provides the option to read keyup/keydown events, not meta-keys [00:39] thanks [00:39] bcx, there is such option, in 17.10/gnome [00:40] https://imgur.com/a/FiOcm [00:40] I don't know how KDE is running on my system [00:42] OerHeks: indeed, what I am trying to do is to set it non-interactively and without gnome running, vendor override fail because it's a relocatable but dconf local override should do the work but strangely doesn't ... [00:42] madara you could try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [00:42] ok macca I will try it now, thnks === adrian is now known as Guest14978 [00:46] bcx, those org. settings does not influence tty, you will need to do that manually [00:49] can anyone tell me if using /msg nickserve identify **** is a permanent thing here === rob is now known as Guest52278 [00:51] macca: what IRC program ya using?? [00:51] macca, no. you need to identify any new session, else store it in your irc client [00:51] xchat [00:51] ugh, xchat is old, no longer under development [00:51] irssi reporting in [00:51] HexChat is nice for a gui === Guest52278 is now known as RobWilco [00:52] any recommendations for something better? [00:52] hexchat is a nice clone, indeed [00:52] I used to use mirc many years ago [00:52] scripts/link-vmlinux.sh: line 70: 28146 Killed ${LD} ${LDFLAGS} -r -o ${1} ${objects} [00:52] Makefile:1000: recipe for target 'vmlinux' failed [00:52] make: *** [vmlinux] Error 137 [00:52] haven't irced for years [00:52] 3rd time ive tried compiling this kernel [00:52] seems to be working jdr :) [00:53] macca: ok not sure but i think it under the server connection window. there a place to put in you password.. and it will idetify everytime for you when you connect to freenode [00:53] thanks [00:53] If not there .. there maybe a place in the menu identiies [00:54] neither of which menu appears on this xchat lol I just installed it under xchat-gnome [00:55] needs a little exploring [00:56] I'm beginning to think I need a new client already this is slow as a wet weekend [00:57] but I guess it's working I'm beginning to learn not to try fixing things that work on ubuntu [00:57] is there servers? [00:57] nope it has Network [00:58] and under that is connect or disconnect [00:58] doesn't have a names list even [00:59] Any recommendations for software that can recordto a GIF simply? [00:59] there should be a area with the freenode server.. could be settings or something .. but somewhere alone with the servers you can connect .. you should have a space to put a password [00:59] no worries it will turn up eventually [00:59] along** [01:00] wish it had a names list though [01:00] is kvirc any good? [01:01] I like Hex-chat.. but it seem to have freezing problems with channel that have alot of users .. [01:01] it only has a tiny window though doesn't it? [01:01] sort of like the old icq window [01:02] macca: if you're using xchat, then this might help. See the "Configuring Xchat and Connecting to a Server", right-side dialog... you'd put your nickserv identify password in the "Nickserv password" text box https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto [01:02] thanks [01:02] * TJ- uses the ncurses based weechat [01:03] I just started with weechat today.. did i reinstall of everything. [01:03] I'll try rejoining and see what happens === Guest14978 is now known as mtdms [01:04] oops i guess we are getting offtopic here [01:04] ok no worries it's done it all by itself [01:05] \m/ right on [01:05] :) [01:06] I remember back in the day when the lag was up to five minutes [01:06] still used it though [01:08] brb going to try a different client [01:14] ok so i think i getting a lead on my video problems..it seem i have the drivers working right nvidia-340 driver for a nvidia 310m chip .. it a optimus type.. but i been reading around and i think why some 3d acc stuff works and other don't is because it overwriting glib6 .. seems other had the problem even back on ubuntu 9 or 10... anyway https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Vpd7dQXVPn/ i think this is wrong should [01:14] only be 2 things listed [01:16] if thats the case i have no idea what to do about it [01:19] oh well at least xchat works I tried two others one was like rocket science to get started and the other wouldn't start at all === haps is now known as HapS === HapS is now known as HapS-_ [01:25] Hi There fellow humans [01:25] I am writing to enquire upon the nature of my dual boot failure, could anyone offer some assistance? [01:26] Data! We need data! :) [01:31] Does anyone know if there should be any ports open on Ubuntu, that are not already defaulted blocked? like I know how Windows has port 445, unless its blocked. Does Ubuntu Have any that should be blocked? [01:31] and if so How to block them [01:33] ExploitedKernel: is for just normal desktop uses ?? or you running server or anything? [01:33] ExploitedKernel: use ufw. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-a-firewall-with-ufw-on-an-ubuntu-and-debian-cloud-server [01:34] Just running in as a Desktop [01:35] desktops can use gufw. [01:35] ExploitedKernel: k well if you have a router i would just make sure there are no open or forward ports.. [01:35] k [01:35] k [01:37] I am not 100% you may want a software firewall to.. but I trust my hardware firewall [01:38] looks like I'm doomed to use xchat nothing else seems to work lol [01:38] macca_: hexchat? [01:38] when you are installing the different programs are you using apt-get in termial or the ubuntu software thing [01:39] had some problems getting hexchat to work, I'm feeling too lazy to work it out [01:39] perhaps tomorrow will do hehe [01:39] this is working at least I just miss the name list for some reason [01:40] macca_: it won't help, not with over 1400 users in here! [01:40] aaaaah good point [01:40] macca_: Confortable in terminal ? try the irssi irc client . [01:40] with x-chat i think there is a button that pops up a window with the users .. but yeah it not very helpful you see the userlist anyway [01:41] I will check it out Bashing but later on it's time for dinner almost [01:41] yeah I can live without it [01:42] is virtual box still the best vm to try ubuntu on an osx partition? [01:42] I wish I could rid myself of nextcloud completely that was a disaster for me [01:42] keeps rearing it's ugly head [01:43] tried purging it but it still appears on syslog using up my processor [01:44] must be in one of the apache files I guess [01:45] virtualbox works great on highsierra for me [01:45] just remember to close it before you shut down [01:45] hi [01:46] Hey,,,, U :) [01:47] anyone know where I can get a list of irc commannds? [01:47] how do i stop screen flickering with intel onboard video (i5 4570)? [01:48] macca this one seem to have a good set [01:48] https://gist.github.com/xero/2d6e4b061b4ecbeb9f99 [01:48] have to tried stopping hardware acceleration [01:48] thanks diecast [01:48] not every command but all the goodies lol [01:49] I used to know them [01:49] fond memories of using mirc as a weapon lol [01:49] many years ago [01:50] yeah me to... I was on dalnet all the time .. hitting the fileservers [01:50] haha [01:51] I lurked on #wasteland for many years [01:51] where i got all my music and games lol but on a old 14.4 dailup modem [01:51] a lot of the old servers have vanished [01:51] took 20 to 30 mins to get A song lol [01:51] yep been there [01:51] I used to have to make a long distance call to connect, cost me a fortune [01:52] still I'm glad she's an ex now [01:52] oops forgot not in offtopic channel looks around well op hasn't beaten us yet [01:53] macca_: yes, with no accel it's slow to the point of freezing every couple of seconds, with accel on there is flickering and corruption [01:53] ooh are there rules [01:53] I saw an article on it but I just can't remember where [01:54] Does anyone have any recommendations for OCR software that can be applied to a pdf? [01:54] pengwen_, a single software? no idea. but it is super easy to output/print a file to .pdf format [01:54] I had high contrast enabled on chrome and couldn't see a thing on youtube etc [01:55] and googling for that is where I saw the accelaration thing [01:56] cfhowlett, I have a scanned pdf that someone else sent me. I'd like to copy and paste text from it, but it wasn't scanned with ocr [01:56] so you're trying to ocr scan a .pdf, correct? [01:57] you could maybe cut a jpg with firefox if thats helpful [01:57] cfhowlett, i'm able to print it to paper, and then scan it if it helps. what i'd like to do is convert an existing pdf to a searchable format. perhaps "ocr" isn't the right term for that [01:58] in fact, i don't even care if it's search-able. what I would like to be able to do is copy text from the pdf, and then paste it elsewhere so I can edit it [01:59] do you have the pdf file or just the scan pengwen? [01:59] pengwen_, this? https://www.howtogeek.com/228531/how-to-convert-a-pdf-file-to-editable-text-using-the-command-line-in-linux/ [01:59] macca_, I have the pdf [02:00] must be an open source pdf editor around [02:02] libre office draw edits pdf's [02:03] I'm going to give tesseract a shot. I'll report back in a few [02:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR [02:05] I have ubuntu 16.04 , I installed some updates today then the computer have been restart suddenly after that ubuntu be not able to boot , I got grub screen only . [02:06] How I can fix that ? I'm using live version now . [02:09] _systemd_is_evil Why it is evil? [02:09] does aanybody know how use sudo gedit on ubuntu 17.10? [02:10] Guys , anyone can help ? How I can boot from grub screen ? [02:10] gt8ost4l, yes. sudo gedit filename [02:10] u_ doesn't it have a recover mode in grub [02:11] you could maybe try to run update again in there [02:11] cfhowlett:i cant do that i get an error! [02:11] !details | gt8ost4l [02:11] gt8ost4l: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [02:11] cfhowlett:okay let me break it down in words! [02:12] cfhowlett:im trying to change the grub file since ubuntu freezes without the grub file command. [02:13] ill show it to you https://askubuntu.com/questions/761706/ubuntu-15-10-and-16-04-keep-freezing-randomly [02:13] gt8lost41 maybe if you try ksudo it will work [02:14] u_, take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [02:14] ok [02:14] you may have to reinstall the bootloader [02:14] bashing-om what was the command again to use to get priviledges [02:15] sudo su [02:15] sorry for butting in [02:16] pengwen_ What do you think about this >> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd [02:17] gt8ost4l: Try as sudo -H gedit // Be aware I am aware that sudo was depreciated at some point for pkexec . [02:18] eh? Bashing-om wasn't that the opposite? I understood that pkexec was the less preferred option. [02:18] bashing-om you gave me the link the other day didnt you archieve it? [02:19] it was on the archlinux forums [02:19] cfhowlett: Well, I still prefer "sudo" // and I did make some changes to the system (16.04) to keep using it . [02:20] gt8ost4l: My attention span is real short . You will have to give me more context to jog my memory . [02:22] gt8ost4l: wayland ? [02:22] u_, that looks fine too. If it's your computer and you know how many partitions are there, you probably don't need to do the first couple of steps [02:22] bashing om:yes wayland [02:22] ok [02:22] pengwen_ thNKS [02:23] pengwen_ *thanks [02:23] gt8ost4l: ' xhost +si:localuser:root ' ? [02:23] bashing om:yes [02:23] gt8ost4l: :) [02:24] u_, what is the output of "sudo fdisk -l" [02:24] wait [02:24] bashing om can you give me a link to thee page again? [02:25] gt8ost4l: https://askubuntu.com/questions/961967/why-dont-gksu-gksudo-work-with-wayland ?? [02:25] pengwen_ this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wkxc4zK3wN/ [02:27] u_, ok, so you should be able to reinstall grub with typing in "grub-install /dev/sda" [02:27] this seems a bit weird, but why does the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus read almost like an advertisement? [02:28] I got error : grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory. [02:28] pengwen_ I got error : grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory. [02:28] aliljet, I don't see it. This reads in the same style as other Ubuntu documents. [02:28] u_, gotcha. so now try going through the four steps where you mount /dev/sda onto a folder, and then include those four folders mounted with the -bind command [02:29] ok [02:29] bashing om:thanks it worked like a charm! [02:29] cfhowlett: well, I guess I'm trying to understand the real value of antivirus solutions in a linux environment and that only really discusses why you need antivirus and none of the countervailing arguments [02:30] pengwen_ could you give me the command ? === kevin is now known as Guest34074 === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:32] u_, i am looking at the repair instructions you found. I don't understand why it is important to include the partition number [02:33] u_, i think the right thing to do is "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt" but their instructions seem to indicate you should be typing "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt" [02:33] because a bootloader on the wrong partition won't load? [02:33] cfhowlett, his bootloader should be on sda1, right? [02:34] mine isn't. depends on the setup [02:34] cfhowlett, look at the earlier post: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wkxc4zK3wN/ [02:34] I think it depends on the initial install which partition is the active linux one [02:34] mines on sda6 [02:36] can anyone tell me how to search files in a directory for text strings please [02:36] in this case, sda1 is an EFI file system (with ~500Mb of storage). sda2 is a linux filesystem (with ~95Gb of storage). and sda3 is a Linux swap. I am pretty sure this one should be sda1 for the bootloader [02:37] macca_, "find . -name "start_of_file_string*"" [02:37] thanks pengwen [02:37] macca_, if you want to find every pdf file, search for "find . -name "*.pdf" [02:38] I'm trying to find mentions of nextcloud in my apache2 conf files [02:39] I'll give it a shot do I use the quotation marks? [02:39] macca_, yeah, you would type something like the following: >> find . -name "*.pdf" [02:39] cheers [02:39] macca_, the string you are searching for goes inside the quotes [02:40] huh. i wonder if u_ came up with something [02:41] didn't find a thing do I need to run the command inside the directory? === _kk_ is now known as _kk [02:47] just for interest sake pengwen grep -r "sometext" * worked for me === HairToday is now known as JPSMan === JPSMan is now known as JPSman [02:50] now I'll see if I've killed off nextcloud or the entire system lol brb I hope [02:51] macca_ ty [02:54] i try to unzip joomla but i cant i dont know why [02:54] unzip: cannot find or open Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip, Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip.zip or Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip.ZIP. [02:55] i put it in the /var/www/html [02:55] i did this command: unzip Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip [02:56] do you know why? [02:56] try putting ./something.zip [02:57] presuming you're in the same directory [02:59] unzip: cannot find or open ./Joomla_3.8.5-Stable-Full_Package.zip [03:00] must be a typo [03:00] do an ls and cut and paste the name [03:03] mtdms, maybe "or open" means the file is corrupt [03:04] i downloaded from joomla site [03:04] How does one gets his debian package approved for the universe repository. Oddly, I fail to find any good documentation on the web about this. [03:04] i will download it again [03:04] Deragon, ask #debian?? [03:04] thanks a lot [03:04] yep I would try that [03:05] i got it [03:05] you know? i unzip from the download directory [03:05] and it was possible [03:06] now im gonna move the directories to the html directory [03:06] thanks a lot [03:06] cool [03:06] it is the first time i try joomla, have you tried it? is it good? [03:06] no idea [03:10] Ah... universe is not Ubuntu specific, but Debian... I did not know. [03:12] lot's of trial and error with open source [03:20] can anyone tell me if 'snap' has some sort of purge option it's not removing things entirely for me [03:23] if anyone likes listening to music, I can recommend installing spotify. Hoping I'm allowed to say that [03:24] macca, it's in the Ubuntu Software app, so I don't see why not [03:24] cool :) [03:25] not sure if adverising is banned in here [03:26] it is banned. [03:26] thought it might have been [03:26] but yes, you can give opinions. thanks! [03:26] :) [03:26] I don't stand to gain anything if someone uses it [03:27] I better read the guidelines [03:28] hey im using ubuntu next and all the sudden i cannot hold alt + letters to get the special accent versions for polish layout anymore after like 6 months of using it like this [03:29] !18.04 | slimetrap [03:29] slimetrap: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [03:30] ubottu, oh god ho wdo i upgrade [03:30] slimetrap: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:31] er Bashing-om [03:31] you do realize you are asking to upgrade to an unreleased, unsupported beta version, slimetrap? [03:31] oh well ok ??? [03:31] someone linked me to it in response to my question i just figured i had to upgrade [03:32] read first. upgrade later. the point made was that BB is not supported or discussed in this channel. if you are on BB, go to #ubuntu+1 for support [03:34] I run apt update, then apt list --upgradable religiously when I fire up my computer [03:36] is it possible to run apt upgrade selectively? [03:41] Hello [03:42] 1: [03:42] 1 === Leion1 is now known as Leion [03:58] can anybody help me i cant installsoftware from the command line i keep fgetting 404 errors? [04:00] gt8ost4l: show us ' cat /etc/issue ' . === Leion1 is now known as Leion [04:02] bashing om even the quotes? [04:06] gt8ost4l: No quotes .. just the output of that terminal command . [04:07] Ubuntu 17.10 \n \l [04:08] gt8ost4l: K; Next is pastebin the output of ' sudo apt update ' . [04:11] https://pastebin.com/qHYQ1jF0 [04:13] gt8ost4l: See: http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-davidsansome/clementine/ubuntu/dists/ . Not supported in artful . [04:14] bashing-om:can i revert to a previousversion in the ppa? [04:15] gt8ost4l: That is ill advised to mix repos ; will break your system . Mught talk to the PPA maintainer and see IF they will work to support a short term release . [04:16] might* === Leion1 is now known as Leion [04:17] clementine is in the official repos. You might consider just abandoning the PPA altogether. [04:17] tomcres: :) [04:18] !info clementine artful [04:18] clementine (source: clementine): modern music player and library organizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1+git276-g3485bbe43+dfsg-1 (artful), package size 4301 kB, installed size 16179 kB [04:18] bashing-om:how do i revert to 17.04 for all the software in he sources file? [04:19] gt8ost4l: nope .. no can do . [04:19] !zesty | gt8ost4l [04:19] gt8ost4l: Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-January/000228.html [04:20] bashing-om: what about 16.04? === Leion1 is now known as Leion [04:23] gt8ost4l: Do not mix repos . https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian . [04:25] gt8ost4l: As tomcres advises, why not install from the software repo ? [04:25] please help me my ubuntu 16.04 just crashed while it was in an update and the only thing i can get into is my android-x86 partition [04:26] ghostnik11: Can you boot a recovery kernel from the grub boot menu ? [04:26] no it doesn't even give me the option Bashing-om i am freaking out [04:27] Bashing-om i have so much school stuff on that section and it just froze for like 4 to 5 minutes so i decided to just turn it off b/c nothing was moving and i am paying for interternet time in a hotel [04:28] ghostnik11: What results when you do attempt to boot ? How far does the system get ? [04:29] i can get grub for android x86 but when i click on ubuntu from windows grub loader it just puts me into android x86 [04:29] Bashing-om is it really lost forever [04:31] ghostnik11: With a liveUSB, time and effort .. linux is always fixable . [04:31] I created an Ubuntu container using debootstrap and systemd-nspawn but what is the default login ? [04:31] Bashing-om i don't have such a chance b/c i am not home, i am outside the states where internet is not reliable [04:31] i tried root and toor it didn't work [04:32] and with a liveCD, you can grab your files even if you decide to reinstall instead of fix the install. [04:32] Bashing-om i need to find out the steps: now so i can download them and then try them while i am here b/c i won't be back home till june [04:33] Flannel yeah but i am running ubuntu 16.04 on a asus t100 = which is like a highly customizable system, i had certain things in it to make it function specifically with the asus t100 b/c asus isn't friendly with linux [04:34] Flannel its not just the files but the whole system that i want back the exact way it is [04:34] Flannel i should have never told it to update [04:34] ghostnik11: Sorry, I do not know android at all - presently I can not offer a solution without a live environment to work from . [04:35] Bashing-om, well its not even android, b/c android uses grub, so i have a grub but i would have to tell grub where the system is located on the disk [04:36] ghostnik11: As above, if you can boot to the grub boot menu we "might" be able to work something out . [04:36] can Ubuntu be run from an android phone (to replace the phone ui and still use phone) === Leion1 is now known as Leion [04:37] Bashing-om or is it possible to tell the windows boot loader where it is? b/c when it first comes up i just hit esc and i usually get option for ubuntu and uefi os and when i select ubuntu it brings me to grub 2.0 with options of ubuntu 16.04 and the kernel [04:38] ghostnik11: I have no EFI experience .. can not advise on how to get to to grub's boot menu . [04:39] Bashing-om this is some BS!! i can't believe that this happened [04:41] ghostnik11: I feel for you // But until you can boot to something we can work from, not a thing I can do . [04:41] Bashing-om the thing i don't get is that i installed android x86 from ubuntu 16.04 so i am able to see android so that must mean that my ubuntu is somewhat alive even for a little to see if i could undo the bad upgrade that crashed [04:42] Bashing-om okay once i am in the grub 2.0 menu for android is there a way i can tell it to do a search for ubuntu partition? [04:43] ghostnik11: Can not say as I do not know android . [04:45] Bashing-om if i load a live boot what would i then have to do? [04:45] ghostnik11: set up a full change root and complete the update . [04:47] !chroot | ghostnik11 [04:47] ghostnik11: A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot [04:48] Bashing-om okay how can i do that b/c when i get back to my apartment i can make a live usb then do it but i need instructions to download now (like stuff to read that will walk me through the steps b/c i am on an island with horrible internet) so at my apartment i have no internet = meaning everything will have to be done off line [04:49] Bashing-om okay i saved that webpage, anything eles? [04:50] Bashing-om is there any way i can sign into grub from network? [04:51] Bashing-om the thing also was that i wasn't even downloading anything. i was just at the part where it installs everything and waiting for it to finish while i was surfing the net [04:52] ghostnik11: While there is a way - I have never attempted.. no idea what will be needed to access grub from the network , [04:52] Bashing-om how? [04:54] Bashing-om also with ubuntu i had many different kernel versions installed so is it possible to see if i would be able to get to one of them since the update was running in kernel 4.14? [04:56] ghostnik11: If you can get to grub's boot menu .. sure ! try and boot an older kernel ir a recovery kernel . [04:57] Bashing-om then what after that [04:57] ir/or* [04:58] Bashing-om okay i will sign out of internet and see if i can get to a recovery [04:59] ghostnik11, can you reinstall grub? i wouldn't trust windows boot loader to be of any use [04:59] Bashing-om sorry i was just kicked off of the wifi - b/c they have a limit on how many can sign into it [04:59] at the same time [04:59] pengwen_ how can i get to reinstall grub? where can i download it and put on a live cd? [05:00] ghostnik11, grub will be on your live cd. Look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [05:00] ghostnik11, what you're trying to do is perform a boot-repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [05:01] pengwen_ i will try that once i get back to my apartment and hopefully it will install back grub [05:01] ghostnik11: Understand . Getting the system functional depends on what is broke . We find that by what happens and what we can ask if the system . [05:01] pengwen_ Bashing-om one sec i will sign out of internet and try to restart the tablet and see if i can hold down shift and see if grub appears [05:01] ghostnik11, if you have a device with you (and i assume you are connected to the internet now), then it wouldn't hurt to make sure you have a good flash on your usb stick [05:02] pengwen_ i have nothing on me but my cell phone and the tablet [05:02] ghostnik11, gotcha [05:02] pengwen_ and i have class in the morning and its midnight right now [05:02] hmmm ... a tablet that doesn't like ubuntu [05:03] ghostnik11: EFI system is the escape key - spammed - to get grub;s attention . [05:09] pengwen_ Bashing-om okay i can't get into it. only the grub menu for android so i will have to try the live cd method thanks for all the help and i will let you guys know how it goes from here. i might be technically screwed till i get back home in june [05:10] ghostnik11, what kind of tablet do you have? how did you burn your iso onto a stick? [05:10] pengwen_ Bashing-om i have to go back to my apartment and sleep so i can get to class tomorrow thanks for all the help [05:11] ghostnik11, getting to class is more important than trying to fix your tablet. learning can still happen without an internet device. ;) [05:11] pengwen_ i have an asus t100taf which isn't suppose to work with ubuntu but thanks to an amazing group of users from google + they got it working with ubuntu [05:11] ghostnik11: When you are back here --- we are here to help . [05:11] pengwen_ yeah i know, thanks again. take care and have a good night everyone Bashing-om [05:11] i hate windows or mac, i love linux, but i need to do some brochures [05:11] for a business [05:11] its simple design, what open source do you recommend? [05:12] mtdms: libreoffice [05:12] brochures? [05:12] libreOfficeDraw? [05:12] advertising [05:12] yes [05:12]