 @Qiangong2, `wget --tries=0 your.url.here` will set it to keep downloading even if it gets interrupted.
 @Qiangong2, [Edit] `wget --tries=0 your.url.here` will set it to keep downloading even if it gets interrupted.
 Also, if you have to interrupt it for some reason, you can run that same command with `-c` to continue downloading the same file so you don't have to restart it
 wowsers got a lot to learn
 @Fuseteam, Just read the `man` pages. That information came from running `man wget` in a terminal
 @dohbee, oh my :eyes:
 @Fuseteam, Eh? You need more pixels?
 lol sorry tis a habit from discord
 meant to type 👀
 @AmolithSeregion, well that and ssh etc etc
 @Fuseteam, Exactly. I didn't know if you were an experienced user or not; sorry if I offended lol
 If I wasn't tired I'd comment about Rodney but then he will beat me in his reply so I will remain silent.
 @wayneoutthere, Lol wise choice
 lol
 @wayneoutthere, Pixels are like Pokemon, you gotta have as many as possible. -Dobey, 2018
[01:49] <ubptgbot> Alexander was added by: Alexander
 yes. we should quote Mr. Rodney more often.
 He has made some winners.
 @AmolithSeregion, i don't think i count as a experienced user yet haha
 @wayneoutthere, So have I, but they generally aren't family friendly and Marius hoards them to blackmail me out of the project someday I think.
 choices are like pokemon  can't have too many :nom:
 welcome alexander 👋
 i don't have that link you guys share so often tho 👀
 Hello, I am trying to flash my Ubuntu Phone Aquaris E 4.5 with UBports. The phone is recognized by UBports-Installer, but afterwords when the phone enters Fastboot mode, nothing happens. Only the the circling little Android and " please connect your device..." Any advice is very welcome, thanks in advance.
 aha found it https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Fuseteam, Lol
 @Alexander, What OS are you using?
 :3
 Ubuntu Phone OTA 15
 @Alexander, he means your computer
 Ubuntu 16.04.3
 @Alexander, I assume you have all the drivers installed, ADB, Fastboot, etc?
 Well, I did not do anything with the phone beforehand, just as I bought it, with the usual updates.
 @Alexander, Installed on your desktop/laptop, I mean
 Yes.
 I have the Files, downloaded from BQ
 @wayneoutthere could you or someone else take it from here? I have to go afk
 I'll drop by some other time, Cheers.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/tWfaqe8F.webp
 I could have sworn there was a "WRONG!" sticker, but i can't find it
 @Fuseteam, lol. oh. you want a phone dock like the switch?
 haha would be fun
 but for now i've been wondering if i can cluster my phone and laptop together haha
 sure you can
 probably completely pointless to do so, but totally possible for sure
 pointless? how so?
 well, unless you've got an extremely ancient laptop, the computing power of your phone is probably nowhere near that of the laptop
 and if the laptop is AMD, it's literally got an ARM core embedded in the die already anyway
 but shouldn't it benefit the phone?
 wait it does?
 granted, it's a much lower end ARM core than probably what is in your phone, but still
 interesting 👀
 i happen to have an amd apu laptop haha
 i have no idea if you can actually use the ARM core on the AMD chips from the OS though
 but that's how they implement their management stuff
 You could... if you exploited it
 i think it's still below ring 0
 anyway, that's surely ot, and doesn't bring gpu prices down to msrp
[04:10] <ubptgbot> StarkBjorn was added by: StarkBjorn
 any appearance of UT in MWC? 😝
 I learned about CES and MWC because of Ubuntu LOL......I miss the time when I get excited during this time....oh well :)
[08:06] <ubptgbot> Dr_Root85 was added by: Dr_Root85
 Sailfish has made its os for feature phone, Waiting forward UT
 @Alexander, Some of the BQ links are old I think
 @StarkBjorn, Hello Artur and Dr. Root. For some detail about UBports, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 Does UT support volte
 Can you explain a bit more? I didn't really follow
 Volte is some kind of SIP implementation?  There is a SIP working group now
 Hey can u work on suggestion about UT homescreen
 @Strangerer, Aravind is looking for a place (github) where he can list some remarks on the OS.
 see if your feature request already exists here: … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/ … if it does not,  you can make a feature request by carefully reading and filling out the form here: … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/new … the request will at some point be reviewed and evaluated by someone.
 Hugo to the rescue!
 You, good sir, are the hero of the day
 *and the crowd goes wild!*
 @Fuseteam, Look at that crowd! :)
 I am batman
 @Strangerer, NO, YOU ARE NOT
 I am Batman
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/PSNUfpID.mp4
 ;)
 Haha
 You are both OTes
 No, you are an OT......OT!
 I am the OB
 Original Batman
 (Photo, 1024x1024) https://irc.ubports.com/xWP2Ellm.png
 Haha, Hugo. Stuur die alsjeblief naar me op ;)
 Die moet ik hebben.
 Whoops, language barrier.
 Haha, Hugo. Please send this to me.
 I have to have one of those
 Taalbariëre is kleiner dan je denkt 😉 I have no idea where it came from, just ddg'd the phrase "original batman"
 It's the back-name die everything verraad ;)
 backname mooie vertaling 😂
 Hi
 @Strangerer, Hello!
 @AmolithSeregion, it's me...
 @Mohannes, Don't … Just don't … lol
 Hahaha
 where do we report bugs for community devices?
 Fwd from efechio: hi, what is the channel for bugs in moto g2?
 Fwd from YougoChats: good guestion. it's not yet an official ubports device. i guess bugs should be reported here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/ anyways?
 or is the moto g2 hosted and maintained somewhere specific, like some dev's personal github?
 @YougoChats tks
 As specified in the blog post, check the bug tracker to see if there's already a bug files
 [Edit] As specified in the blog post, check the bug tracker to see if there's already a bug filed
 If not, report it in the XDA forum thread
 @efechio what @UniversalSuperBox said
 blogpost is here: https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/a-titan-in-the-community-93
 yes, but my camera isn't work...and the version is the stable one...
 I'll see the bug tracker
 tks guys
 oh, hmm
 H r u amolith
 aproximately 1356 people will say no. continue?  y/n
 y
[15:19] <ubptgbot> mtarabrikov was added by: mtarabrikov
 @UniversalSuperBox, Do you know if a click can write to .local/share/$APP_ID?
 @JBBgameich, yes, it can. just not to other places in .local/share/
 (unless it's unconfined, but you should not need or do that)
 @mtarabrikov, Hi Mikhail, welcome , try to start here https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/4iv6hsWK.null
 ubuntu touch install doesn't recognize nexus 4, developer option is activated and device is authorized, any suggerence?
 @juanadn, Does "$ fastboot devices" recognise it?
 on bootloader menu?
 yes
 003d65*****
 return this number... followed fastboot
 my actual rom is lineage os  14
 In terminal
 (Photo, 678x181) https://irc.ubports.com/7XmGuRzE.png
 My experience is limited to trouble getting the device recognized at all: I don't have further suggestions, sorry.
 ok, thanks :)
[16:50] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I have an important question
 ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE!?!?
[16:50] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> um
 That wasn't it?
[16:50] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> nope 😆
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> It is rather important
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> and may decide if i keep using UTouch or not
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> its about the battery life
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> so i have the Aquaris E4-5
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> 4.5*
 @Squish :3, Call the emergebcy number!
 don't
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> In terms of battery life,do the canonical images render more battery time than the UBPorts one?
 If they do, it's probably a bug
[16:52] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Wich one of them should render more uptime
[16:52] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Battery life a pretty big deal to me
 They should be about the same
[16:52] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> hm.
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I do find out that Utouch uses more battery
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> either that or im hallucinating
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> hence my question
 If you're getting poor signal, you'll also experience reconnects by the push client
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Nope. All is fine.
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> All works.
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I just feel like the battery lasts way less.
[16:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I'm a heavy user
 16.04 should provide a good basis for improvement, including battery life. Canonical version is going nowhere
[16:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @Stereofont I know that and im excited for 16.06
[16:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> 04*
[16:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Canonical version is pretty much dead.
[16:55] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Does anyone else have a E4.5? Mine isnt Ubuntu Edition but i installed it anyway.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/DFYZSni2.null
 But alas! I don't have my phone with me. :(
 lol isn't that the purpose of  a mobile phone? That you can always take it with you :D
 @Squish :3, push client getting lots of reconnects in the background won't appear on the surface like anything isn't working. it will however consume more battery if it's having to constantly wake and do reconnects
[17:13] <ubptgbot> roh17 was added by: roh17
 @roh17, Hello. Please check out the link for UBports info https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Squish :3, I liked the rumble question better...
 @dohbee, The interesting part is that our current setup seems to provoke more battery usage on the push client. Except that all parameters should be the same like on Caonical image ;)
 So we were looking through some possible sources of this but didn find anything
 @Flohack, Maybe it's just there are more people seeing it and being vocal about it now, and it was also happening with canonical images, but everyone was on good connections always, so it didn't happen for them?
 @dohbee, There is also another intersting part, since we have only one push server instance, it seems more people actually get online. On the old push server smth was bogus since a lot of ppl could not connect to it. They never got messages. Maybe this contributes, so yes, maybe its more awareness now
 Canonical had a cluster of 3 or 4 servers. And the selection was made on siome hash, so for some users they seemed to have never reached a working server ,)
 hmm
 So, today I start anew trying to install ubports via the ubports-installer on Ubuntu 16.04 on my OTA-15 Ubuntu-Phone BQ E4.5. The phone is detected by ubports-installer, I select "change to Ubports", the phone enters Fastboot-mode, but then, only the spinning orange guy ad infinitum. Any help would be very welcome.
 Anyway, its an interesting thing to follow on. Someone recommended to monitor wakelocks a bit better
 @Alexander, close the installer. can you exec fastboot devices?
 and tell us the result?
 Shall I do that in the terminal!
 yes
 which OS do you have
 Ubuntu 16.04
 ok then it should be good.
 fastboot is not installed, ok,  I will install it.
 except you dont have the tools installed. 😆 yes the installer has it inside. You use the snap or the normal version?
 annyon else having a lock screen loop when trying into Unity 8?
 The normal version.
 [Edit] anyone else having a lock screen loop when trying into Unity 8?
 @Alexander, Ok if you have continuous troubles I will send you to our first aid room :)
 Thank you very much, I will try to install now.
 @Flohack, Didn't even know we had one of those
 [Edit] anyone else having a lock screen loop when trying into login using Unity 8?
 @AmolithSeregion, Welcome & Install 😎
 @AmolithSeregion, See on this page a bit down: https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @Stereofont, Oh I though he mean there was a dedicated room for people who were having a _lot_ of trouble installing lol
 @Stereofont, [Edit] Oh I though he mean there was a dedicated room for people who were having a *lot* of trouble installing lol
 @Stereofont, [Edit] Oh I though he mean there was a dedicated room for people who were having a lot of trouble installing lol
 Hooray, it works, fastboot made the difference.
 @AmolithSeregion, Or damaged heads from too much banging against a desk
 @Alexander, Unfortunately the installer does not check all prerequisites correctly
 So its included in the snap?
 yes should be, also adb
 but always close the installer when using adb or fastboot in another window, they otherwise may interfere
 Ok, thanks.
 @Flohack, "with great monitoring, comes great improvement" ?
 @dohbee, yeah hopefully... need to find some time, and now its not so easy as we do not roll out dev images in 15.04, I must wait until the push client is working in 16.04 (which it basically should already)
 well, it works
 it just doesn't run
 yay golang
 @dohbee, ugh! me no like golang
 well we got our GOlang therapist @DanChapman  for that 😆
 funny, that doesn't sound like Johnnie Walker to me
 hehe
 Anyone with a mac here?
 I need someone to test something, doesn't take long
 mac & cheese?
 not that one
 too bad :)
 but if you want to make me some mac & cheese, i'd like that as well :)
 @dohbee, Plz send to Spain: Sotogrande, Cadiz province.
 lol
 @Flohack, i thought MWC was in Barca? :P
 I wish I would be there 😆
 Just read the article on Samsung's convergence concept; it was upsetting for me because there was only ONE comment about UTouch. Everyone else was "so excited" to see this "new" convergence device...smh
[19:28] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere, Whats wrong with my question lmao
 It just wasnt as retro
[19:56] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere, XD gotcha
 Hey guys I made a shortlink with Bitly that you can use to send people to the welcome page. It's bit.ly/TeleWelcome
 @AmolithSeregion, URL shorteners are generally considered insecure
 @dohbee, I agree but for something like this I think it's beneficial. This way people have a quick and easy-to-remember way to get the information they need and they can share it with someone else just as easily. They don't have to go searching through Telegram or DuckDuckGo to find it.
 Here's one for the UBPorts porting documentation as well. bit.ly/UBPorting
 @dohbee, I don't know if you're familiar with it but when I was working with Team Internet I made one that got used a LOT - bit.ly/text4TI … I still see a lot of clicks for it in my stats screen on Bitly
 I have a policy to never click on shortened links
 Hm
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/kGAHpkbM.png
 @mateosalta, I check the location before I click them
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/ty14PVc6.png
 Even apart from security questions, URL shorteners are a recipe for bitrot IMO.
[21:25] <ubptgbot> R S was added by: R S
[21:27] <ubptgbot> <R S> hei guys, I never used ubuntu, but im planing to get a new phone (shiftphone). what can I expect? can I run some everyday apps like telegram?
 @R S, i don't think that is one of the supported phones, so you can't run ubuntu on it yet
[21:29] <ubptgbot> <R S> oke, it would support random os, but as you see, I have no clue. Are supported devices listed on the website? I will have a look
 @R S, yes they are ;)
[21:30] <ubptgbot> <R S> yeah i saw... sorry ;)
 @trainailleur, What's bitrot?
 looks like shiftphones are mostly MTK, which is not good if you want a port
[21:31] <ubptgbot> <R S> nice, fairphone 2 is ready :)
[21:31] <ubptgbot> <R S> what you mean rodney?
 The gradual disappearance of information from the internet do to neglect, url change, etc.  I can't count the number of times I've hit url-shortener links that were dead.
 i mean Mediatek has been generally bad about providing kernel sources and device trees
 so the opportunity to port to the device is much less likely
[21:32] <ubptgbot> <R S> so its a bad choice from them?
[21:32] <ubptgbot> <R S> for ubuntu
 yes
[21:33] <ubptgbot> <R S> cool thanks :) did not know that
 Android One will supposedly increase the number of Mediatek devices with source, but for the moment not many have released source.
 it looks like one of the phones is a Snapdragon SoC though, so that one might be portable (getting a lineageos port first would be a good start)
 but i wouldn't hold out on the Mediatek versions. unless shiftphones is actually doing something about that
[21:34] <ubptgbot> <R S> they are in development of a new phone. so maybe there will be some changes
 @KrisJacewicz I finally have made a hot spot in the Rp0 and not in the phone. I've used seenwww.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/access-point.md
 [Edit] @KrisJacewicz I finally have made an access point in the Rp0 and not in the phone. I've used seenwww.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/access-point.md
[23:14] <ubptgbot> connectme was added by: connectme
 Hello Lou. You can get more info from https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 Whats  time there
 What's the time where?  In the telegram welcome room?
 😜
 It's 15:18
 23:18
 Here 4:49
 49??
 Ye
 you sure you don't mean 19?
 Some places in Africa have +/-x300 timezones.
 @UniversalSuperBox, wut
 Yep
 because timezones needed to be more complicated
 in canada we have one 'half hour' zone.  Anyway, I can't believe this turned into a time zone chat. that was somewhat interesting, though, Dalton.
 2:21 AM
 Ever wonder why developers give a thousand-mile stare at the mention of timezones?
 Well... that's why
 `UTC`
[23:25] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> 23:25
 `stardates`
 2:47