/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/02/27/#ubuntu-mate.txt

ariel_hola02:28
ariel_alguien alli?02:28
kernalalli02:28
ariel_hi02:28
kernalwhat language is that?02:28
ariel_spanish02:28
ariel_espaƱol02:28
ariel_and you?02:28
ariel_I from to mexico02:29
ariel_I am from to mexico02:29
kernalI think there's a channel especially for spanish02:29
ariel_where...?02:29
QuenzI'm trying to set up an outlook email account with Thunderbird. It works fine on my Mac with the exact same settings, but on MATE, I get "Configuration could not be verified - is the username or password wrong?"03:44
QuenzI have a clue here is the terminal output when using the host command on the mail servers on my Mac https://pastebin.com/Es1mhnc4 and on the MATE computer https://pastebin.com/p3D23qez04:33
QuenzI get "Host <mail server> not found: 5(REFUSED)" on the MATE computer, but not on my Mac04:34
QuenzI think I found the solution to my problem. My ISPs default DNS wasn't resolving the mailservers. I'm not exactly sure though, because it was working fine on a different computer06:10
QuenzOh, and the reason it did work on my Mac is that I was using a VPN on it, so I guess the VPN uses a different DNS06:11
kernalnice06:13
rhodeHi all. Im on 17.10 and are liking this alot. Will there be a clear/clean upgrade path for 17.10->18.04 LTS (after the release) or am I looking into a complete nuke'n'pave reinstall ?08:08
alkisgSure, 17.10 to 18.04 is supported by all ubuntu flavors08:32
rhodealkisg: and the switch back to Xorg will just be done as part of that dist-upgrade ?08:37
alkisgrhode: what switch back to xorg? mate doesn't use wayland08:37
rhodeOhhh - i thought that all the ubuntu's had wayland as standard in 17.1008:38
alkisgNah, that's just gnome08:38
rhodeokay - then I can be relatively sure that i do not have to nuke'n'pave08:39
rhodeThen im gonna continue setting up everything that i need08:39
* alkisg uses 18.04 directly nowadays, to avoid installing 17.10 and upgrading :)08:39
rhodealkisg:  you are more brave then me. Its only still in Alpha stages if i remember correctly09:06
alkisgYeah I'm trying to help in solving potential issues as well09:09
peanut42having trouble with the firefox sidebar where white font is on a white background... this happens in the dark MATE theme... you can only change the colors in the firefox windows, basically everywhere except the sidebar, nobody else have this issue?09:28
diogenes_peanut42, gotta screenshot?09:29
peanut42one sec09:29
peanut42https://unsee.cc/6d3e0feb/09:34
peanut42I don't know any good picture share site... sorry09:37
peanut42but this has been bugging me since MATE TWEAK was implemented09:38
peanut42I can't take it anymore09:38
peanut42I'm dead09:38
diogenes_peanut42, we can try one thing09:39
diogenes_no clue whether if will help or not because I haven't used ff in aloooong time09:39
diogenes_run: cd $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/*.default09:39
peanut42mkay, I'm in the profile09:41
diogenes_mkdir chrome09:41
peanut42k09:41
diogenes_cd chrome09:41
diogenes_touch userContent.css09:41
diogenes_pluma (or whatevertexteditor name) userContent.css09:42
peanut42and copy pasta a bunch of stuff?09:42
peanut42into it?!?09:42
diogenes_copy this:09:43
diogenes_http://susepaste.org/8623216609:43
diogenes_it used to work for the previous versions, no sure if it will work now.09:43
peanut42it doesn't work09:45
peanut42:(09:46
peanut42but it was definitely worth a try, thank you!09:46
diogenes_peanut42, also you could try a different theme for firefox09:46
diogenes_something like lavafox09:46
peanut42I have tried that in the past09:46
diogenes_try it again09:47
peanut42I have to revisit this09:47
diogenes_yep, definitely worth a try09:47
peanut42arg, same problem, everything gets changed except the sidebar content09:57
peanut42I tried a bunch of different themes :(09:57
peanut42so to put real names to the issues: I only have this problem when the "BlackMATE" theme is being used10:00
peanut42MATE themes are okay10:00
peanut42*other10:00
diogenes_no clue what is mate theme implementation but you might want to to experiments with it, navigate to /usr/share/themes/BlackMATE folder, find the file responsible but style, colors, content, open it with text editor and try to find the hexcolor that matches the background of that sidebar (if you want to change background) or text color (if you want to change text color)10:03
diogenes_this way, I used to modify a lot of themes to my liking in the past10:04
diogenes_it's a very time consuming work btw10:04
peanut42I can only imagine... it's like trial and error?!?10:04
peanut42but I will give it a shot either way10:05
diogenes_peanut42, exactly, thing are a bit easier if they style it with .css10:05
diogenes_peanut42, also one quick try is to see if you got ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file10:07
diogenes_if it's there, try to rename it and re-log10:07
peanut42diogenes_: good tip! Thanks!10:07
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QuenzThunderbird works fine on my Mac, but not on Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS. Same Thunderbird version. Outputs from host command on mail servers: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6qZgTMC9Bq/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/drZTthtfwn/15:17
MenzieQuenz - Are we using Exchange or regular Outlook?15:21
QuenzRegular outlook. The email address ends in live.com.au if that helps15:21
QuenzMenzie15:21
MenzieInteresting.15:23
MenzieTry changing the IMAP servers to the US ones, imap-mail.outlook.com and smtp-mail.outlook.com15:24
Menzie*IMAP and SMTP15:24
MenzieQuenz ^15:25
QuenzMenzie They are automatically set to those addresses. I think they just resolve to AU ones in the background because I'm in Australia15:25
MenzieWhat's the exact error message in Thunderbird?15:26
Quenz"Configuration could not be verified - is the username or password wrong?"15:26
QuenzI've triple checked the username and password though15:27
MenzieSSL over 993, STARTTLS over 587?15:27
QuenzIt's worth noting the issue goes away if I change the DNS settings in my router to Google's public DNS or OpenDNS, but that causes the internet to be quite slow on the MATE computer for some reason.15:28
QuenzMenzie yes15:28
MenzieSo basically the DNS server that you want to use hates Outlook for some reason15:28
QuenzI'm guessing because those DNS servers are in the US and I'm in Australia15:28
QuenzBut it works fine in Thunderbird on my Mac15:29
QuenzSo...15:29
QuenzLike, my Mac is using the same DNS as the MATE computer15:29
MenziePerhaps15:29
QuenzYou think my Mac could be using a different DNS?15:29
MenziePerhaps... are you using a firewall program such as ufw?15:30
MenzieOr, maybe the #thunderbird people can help15:30
alkisgOr maybe systemd-resolved15:31
QuenzIs ufw enabled by default?15:31
MenzieOh yeah, check the resolution daemon15:31
QuenzWhat's systemd-resolved?15:31
alkisgThe dns server of recent ubuntu versions15:33
alkisgOh wait, did you say 16.04?15:33
alkisgThere, it's still dnsmasq15:33
alkisgYou might want to bypass that, and see if it works without it15:33
QuenzI just disables the default Firewall program that comes with MATE, that didn't fix it though15:34
QuenzHmm15:34
alkisgYou might also want to try ipv4 vs ipv6 resolution15:34
alkisgAll those are unrelated to the desktop environment though, it's core ubuntu functionality15:34
alkisgSo you can ask #ubuntu as well; more people there, so more help..15:35
QuenzAlright, one step at a time15:35
QuenzShould I explore dnsmasq first?15:35
alkisgWhatever is easier for you15:35
QuenzI don't mind15:35
QuenzHow do I bypass dnsmasq?15:35
alkisgI just threw some ideas, I don't have time to help with the steps involved :)15:35
alkisgThat's why I'm saying whatever's easier for you :)15:35
QuenzAlright15:36
alkisgdnsmasq can be disabled from /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf => dnsmasq line, and reboot...15:37
alkisgOr you could test with a 17.10 live cd, which uses systemd-resolved instead; if that works.... you know15:37
QuenzShould I just remove the dns line, or set it to something besides dnsmasq?15:38
alkisgI think removing is fine15:38
alkisgA quick googling about that will reveal detailed instructions15:39
alkisgOf course, make a note, to be able to undo the change later on15:39
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