[00:00] <stoopkid> yes
[00:01] <nacc> stoopkid: then what Bashing-om said
[00:01] <stoopkid> Bashing-om: i've been using that and this is how the process goes. i download the package i need, i move it to the offline computer, i try to install, it fails saying i need 10 other dependencies. so i go back to the online computer, grab those dependencies, move them to the offline computer, try to install one, and it fails saying i need 10 other dependencies
[00:01] <stoopkid> do i really just need to keep iterating this until done?
[00:02] <Bashing-om> stoopkid: Yeah, that is the process.. on https://packages.ubuntu.com/ is also the dependency listing .
[00:04] <Bashing-om> stoopkid: Imagime what life was like before there was a package manager :)
[00:04] <ioc_> boot a 14.04 live dvd on the online computer, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get --download-only install package, copy over /var/lib/apt/lists and /var/cache/apt/archives to the offline computer
[00:05] <ioc_> then apt-get on the offline comp
[00:07] <mtdms> do you recommend some translator like trans?
[00:07] <mtdms> or how to fix it
[00:08] <mtdms> [ERROR] Null response.
[00:08] <mtdms> [ERROR] Oops! Something went wrong and I can't translate it for you :(
[00:08] <mtdms> my first language is spanis but i like to read in other languages so it helps me a lot, do you recommend some good? or why is not working? i can use google translator but the trans is quick i like it from console
[00:08] <mtdms> something from console
[00:10] <stoopkid> ioc_: i see, that seems more convenient; i guess i expected there to be some tool that would automatically download all dependencies and wrap them into... idk, something that can just be transfered over to the offline computer and installed without having to worry about it further; live cd seems like it *should* be *way* overkill
[00:10] <ioc_> mtdms, submig a bug report to its developers https://github.com/soimort/translate-shell/issues
[00:11] <mtdms> thanks
[00:11] <mtdms> do you know another one?
[00:11] <stoopkid> perhaps i'm naive to think that?
[00:12] <ioc_> stoopkid, synaptic does have an option to generate a downloading script but i never tried it
[00:15] <stoopkid> ioc_: i was looking into that, isn't synaptic a graphical frontend though? i don't have a GUI desktop on my offline 14.04 cause idk why but it crashes every time i boot up with the desktop
[00:17] <aasis21> hello
[00:17] <bazhang> hi
[00:20] <hggdh> stoopkid: you could write a script to download the necessary packages -- run apt-cache depends <what you want>, and then parse the output for "Depends:" and "Recommends:" lines, grab the package names from these lines, and run apt-get install --download-only on them;
[00:21] <hggdh> stoopkid: then (given you already have the list of packages) copy them from /var/cache/apt/archive into a temp directory, and create a tarball from this directory
[00:21] <mtdms> what program translator do you recommend from console like trans?
[00:23] <stoopkid> hggdh: unfortunately that seems the most reasonable solution, thanks very much, will give that a shot
[00:24]  * stoopkid goes into a deep depression and then afk
[00:24] <hggdh> stoopkid: please note that each Depends and Recommends might have its own list of dependencies...
[00:25] <bazhang> https://www.ostechnix.com/use-google-translate-commandline-linux/ mtdms
[00:25] <mtdms> do you mean trans?
[00:26] <bazhang> mtdms, thats trans added to your ubuntu
[00:26] <mtdms> but thats the problem
[00:26] <bazhang> mtdms, check the link on how to addit
[00:26] <mtdms> [ERROR] Null response.
[00:26] <mtdms> [ERROR] Oops! Something went wrong and I can't translate it for you :(
[00:26] <mtdms> i got when i try to use it
[00:26] <mtdms> in my ubuntu
[00:26] <mtdms> do you why?
[00:26] <bazhang> mtdms, have you read the link
[00:27] <mtdms> one min
[00:27] <mtdms> let me see
[00:30] <bazhang> !info translate-shell | mtdms
[00:30] <bazhang> add that from the ubuntu repos mtdms
[00:30] <bazhang> sudo apt install translate-shell mtdms
[00:33] <mtdms> sorry, i was reading the page but i didnt get the solution yet
[00:33] <mtdms> what do you mean?
[00:33] <mtdms> i installed apt-get install translate-shell
[00:33] <bazhang> mtdms, then you saw or not my solution of adding translate-shell
[00:35] <mtdms> what do you mean? to install from the repositories?
[00:36] <bazhang> mtdms, there are ubuntu direct sources of software, those are call repos, or repositories
[00:36] <mtdms> ok
[00:37] <mtdms> do i need to add some repositories?
[00:37] <bazhang> mtdms, then there are outside sources, sucha s github
[00:37] <laptop> hi how are you
[00:37] <mtdms> :S
[00:37] <bazhang> mtdms, did you try the command I told you to install it
[00:37] <mtdms> apt-get install translate-shell?
[00:37] <bazhang> with sudo, yes
[00:38] <mtdms> yes i did
[00:38] <mtdms> but it says i have already installed
[00:38] <bazhang> mtdms, then go ahead and use it
[00:38] <mtdms> do you want me to reeinstall? to remove and install it again
[00:38] <bazhang> no
[00:38] <bazhang> use it
[00:40] <timdotrb> Howdy. I just replace my nvidia video card with an AMD card, and am looking around for drivers for it. I see the fglrx package is not available for Ubuntu 17.XX, so I was wondering what driver is recommended for the recent versions of the distro?
[00:40] <bazhang> timdotrb, which amd card exactly
[00:40] <timdotrb> bazhang: RX 580
[00:41] <bazhang> timdotrb, is that a newer one,
[00:41] <timdotrb> bazhang: it is one of (if not the) newest
[00:41] <mtdms> [ERROR] Null response.
[00:41] <mtdms> [ERROR] Oops! Something went wrong and I can't translate it for you :(
[00:42] <bazhang> mtdms, tell us the exact command you used to get that error
[00:42] <mtdms>  i just need to type: trans and the word right?
[00:42] <mtdms> for example: trans hi
[00:42] <mtdms> my first language is spanish
[00:42] <mtdms> its an example
[00:42] <mtdms> from english to spanish
[00:42] <mtdms> or maybe im no tryping the right command?
[00:44] <mtdms> ive tryied many ways and i get same error
[00:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver timdotrb
[00:44] <mtdms> is there another translator from console?
[00:45] <bazhang> mtdms, thats not the correct way to use it
[00:45] <mtdms> how should i type it?
[00:45] <mtdms> for example
[00:45] <bazhang> mtdms, the error is what you are inputting
[00:45] <mtdms> the word: hi
[00:45] <mtdms> how do i shoul type?
[00:45] <mtdms> let me try
[00:45] <bazhang> mtdms, the link I gave you tells the exact way to do it
[00:46] <mtdms> i also tryied like the link i got the same error
[00:46] <bazhang> mtdms, you need to read it carefully and then put exactly what it says
[00:46] <timdotrb> bazhang: Yea, I have seen that page, but it doesn’t really help with my quest
[00:48] <sysfault> is there a root user at all on ubuntu?
[00:48] <AmericanBlend> of course it is
[00:48] <AmericanBlend> just it has no password by default
[00:48] <sysfault> ohh i see
[00:48] <bazhang> sysfault, we use sudo
[00:48] <AmericanBlend> you can go sudo su
[00:48] <AmericanBlend> then psswd
[00:48] <sysfault> sweet
[00:48] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, please no
[00:49] <AmericanBlend> and then you can access it by su
[00:49] <AmericanBlend> bazhang, ?
[00:49] <bazhang> sysfault, use sudo -i for a root shell
[00:49] <sysfault> surely i would want to set a password for my root user bazhang
[00:49] <mitch__> hello
[00:49] <mtdms> thanks anyway
[00:50] <sysfault> i'll use sudo for everyday tasks but if i ever needed to be rooted exclusively i'd wanna su -
[00:50] <bazhang> sysfault, really you do not, sudo -i is it
[00:51] <mtdms> do you know another translator? from console
[00:51] <bazhang> trans -shell -brief
[00:51] <bazhang> do that mtdms ^
[00:51] <sysfault> first distro i've ran into which despises having exclusive root access to your own box
[00:52] <bazhang> sysfault, the root shell needs not that, but sudo -i
[00:52] <sysfault> i see
[00:52] <mtdms> i got this: Translate Shell
[00:52] <mtdms> (:q to quit)
[00:52] <mtdms> >
[00:53] <bazhang> mtdms, next command upcoming
[00:54] <bazhang> Rien ne réussit comme le succès.
[00:54] <bazhang> mtdms, ^
[00:54] <mtdms> > Rien ne réussit comme le succès.
[00:54] <mtdms> [ERROR] Null response.
[00:54] <mtdms> [ERROR] Oops! Something went wrong and I can't translate it for you :(
[00:54] <mtdms> :(
[00:54] <mtdms> :S
[01:00] <willc> is docker worth the effort or can virtualenv do the trick?
[01:05] <nacc> willc: sort of unrelated things
[01:05] <nacc> willc: if you are asking specifically about python, you want a python channel
[01:06] <laptop> anyone play around with steam and ubuntu
[01:08] <skywave_> laptop yeah
[01:09] <rollingubuntu> hello, anyone awake?
[01:09] <willc> I didn't realize they were python specific.
[01:09] <skywave_> but then i realized what a huge waste of a finite life it was and that games are just time sinks that provide no real benefit to me as a human
[01:09] <skywave_> so i went and got myself a new bicycle
[01:10] <skywave_> and now i spend my time riding my bike and taking nature phgotos and posting them on facebook
[01:10] <skywave_> so yeah, #%$@ gaming
[01:10] <nacc> skywave_: please stay ontopic.
[01:10] <skywave_> dude...i got a tan
[01:10] <nacc> laptop: do you have a specific support question?
[01:11] <skywave_> actually i came here to ask about a ubuntu 16 specific bug i encoutered in skywave linux distro
[01:11] <nacc> skywave_: 'skywave linux distro'?
[01:12] <nacc> skywave_: that's not an ubuntu issue, if it's a fork
[01:12] <laptop> no sorry I need linux steam help
[01:12] <nacc> laptop: what kind of help?
[01:12] <nacc> laptop: you've mentioned 'ubuntu', 'linux' and 'steam' so far
[01:13] <skywave_> wow, what a but whole
[01:13] <laptop> well it is okay
[01:14] <nacc> alright then
[01:15] <demu> Hi, So I have a ubuntu server on my local network and can access it locally but can't for the outside. router is port forwarding and ufw status is allow anywhere for port 80. Am I missing something?
[01:16] <wedgie> demu: not unheard of for residential ISPs to block 80 inbound. Have you tried it on a different port just to rule that out?
[01:17] <demu> wedgie: nope, will try it now
[01:17] <wedgie> to be clear, I mean portforward some other port on the outside to port 80 inside. Don't have to change the server's config
[01:21] <demu> yup, I had a centOS server before and it worked fine after firewall was setup correctly. No luck but had to try it :(
[01:21] <diepes> join #salt
[01:23] <wedgie> ''netstat -tnl | grep 80'' shows the service listening on all IPs?
[01:23] <demu> wedgit: the server has 2 interfaces could that be the problem with (ufw)
[01:24] <wedgie> which are you port-forwarding to?
[01:25] <wedgie> and ufw confuses the crap out of me, so I probably won't be much help troubleshooting that :P
[01:26] <demu> it listening on all interfaces
[01:27] <what> lol
[01:27] <demu> it's*
[01:27] <wedgie> and you're testing it by hitting it from a box outisde of your network, not trying to hit the external ip from within your lan?
[01:28] <demu> for my lan
[01:28] <demu> I think you are right, should call friend and see if he can reach it
[01:28] <wedgie> will depend on your router, but not all of them will do a NAT hairpin like that by default. Try testing from your phone or something (not on wifi)
[01:29] <demu> or my phone
[01:32] <demu> getting on my phone "your connection was interrupted" hummm...
[01:32] <demu> trying just the IP
[01:33] <demu> connection time out
[01:36] <xromulus> Let's say your wireless router is on 192.168.1.5 and your modem/dns is at 192.168.1.1. Sometimes I connect via wifi and have internet access other times I connect and change the routing to say 192.168.1.5 is the default gateway and the dns is at 192.168.1.1 and it works. Sometimes there is nothing I can do, no connection. Why with network manager does it work sometimes but not always? I am receiving an ip via dhcp..
[01:37] <demu> just figure it out
[01:38] <demu> it is too embarrassing to say what is was :(
[01:38] <demu> is/it
[01:38] <wedgie> lol, don't leave us hanging
[01:39] <Zabot_> I have a network with mdns running on several hosts, when I ping a host with hostname.local on ubuntu I can resolve it just fine, but when I just ping hostname the host isn't found. Adding search local to /etc/resolve.conf doesn't have any effect. Where else should I look
[01:40] <demu> xromulus: thank for the explanation
[01:41] <KerbalST> I've been trying to install Ubuntu on my system and it's been taking 2 hours at this point. The system is a fast one as well (CPU: R5 1600, GPU: GT 740) and every website I check says it should only take 30 minutes at most. The progress bar is slowly progressing. Anyone know how I might make this faster?
[01:41] <xromulus> demu: lol that was my problem/question. Trying to figure out what the hay is going on
[01:41] <mutante> Zabot_: maybe the "hosts:" line in /etc/nsswitch.conf
[01:42] <mutante> only if that has "files" as in "files dns" it looks in resolv.conf
[01:43] <Zabot_> mutante: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
[01:43] <Zabot_> kkk:q
[01:43] <Zabot_> Welp, thats not vim -_-
[01:49] <rollingubuntu> I can see some activity :) so, I have 17.10, and my desktop shows up weird
[01:50] <rollingubuntu> could I get some tips please?
[01:53] <rollingubuntu> hello?!
[01:53] <jdr> ...
[01:54] <thewaffle> So What is everyone's recommended java package for ubuntu 16.04? I run a Java app (Runescape) and my CPU spikes to 100%
[01:58] <rollingubuntu> any 17.10 expert here please?
[02:00] <jdr> Nah. On LTS 16/04
[02:01] <rollingubuntu> jdr: got you
[02:01] <rollingubuntu> any one else?!? :)
[02:01] <rollingubuntu> jdr: stay on 16.04 for as long as you can :D
[02:18] <thewaffle> So What is everyone's recommended java package for ubuntu 16.04? I run a Java app (Runescape) and my CPU spikes to 100%
[02:25] <rhyzom> hey, guys... finally fixed my small, crappy acer yesterday, got it running on lubuntu, this morning upgrade, reboot and it hangs in blank screen right after loading
[02:25] <rhyzom> any help here would be greatly appreciated
[02:27] <Budgii> Simple discovery I made, which most of you probably know but I thought was cool. # cd /home/user/folder ;python3 MyScript.py
[02:33] <Budgii> There is a class offered in my area about ubuntu. It's taught using Ubuntu 14...... .6? It's most likely just outdated curriculum, but would the knowledge be much different than in more current versions?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> rhyzom: Broken graphic's driver ? At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F2 -> console interface; can you login here ?
[02:34] <KerbalST> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.0.4 on my PC and it is taking a very long time (upwards of 3 hours now). The PC is a fast one, and all articles I have found say it should only take 30 minutes. This is my third attempt. Any help? (The progress bar is at "copying files", about 2/3rds of the way there but hasn't moved in a while. Installing from a usb stick)
[02:35] <Budgii> did you verify the hash key? ( i think thats what its called) is it an official version, KerbalST?
[02:35] <Iam1> Probably a corrupt download
[02:35] <Budgii>  +1 Iam1
[02:35] <KerbalST> I'll check that, it was an official version.
[02:35] <jdr> Trashy thumb drive?
[02:36] <Iam1> I think corruption for sure
[02:36] <rhyzom> Bashing-om: i held shift, grub > recovery mode... worked... and im not sure why it didnt 10 times before that
[02:36] <Iam1> What are you installing on
[02:37] <Iam1> Do the. md5 sum
[02:38] <Iam1> Typing on my ipad is too slow sorry
[02:39] <Bashing-om> rhyzom: while good to be able to activate the recovery console, what about ctl+alt+F2 at the login screen ?
[02:39] <Budgii> Iam1, you're on IRC on iPad? what app? :D
[02:39] <Iam1> Mutter
[02:39] <Iam1> Pretty useless
[02:39] <Budgii> @Iam1 really? ha
[02:40] <Iam1> Checking it out
[02:40] <Iam1> Lol
[02:40] <KerbalST> I've checked, the ISO I downloaded is not corrupted, will try a different USB stick and check back later
[02:40] <Budgii> If you do python, I just bought Pythonista. Pretty cool for iOS.
[02:40] <Budgii> KerbalST, good luck
[02:40] <Iam1> Yeah got it
[02:41] <Budgii> Iam1, do you like the app?
[02:41] <Iam1> Not much
[02:41] <Iam1> Slow typing
[02:42] <Iam1> Not the apps fault
[02:42] <Budgii> Agreed on that note, i'm interested in making apps with it. I hear you can use the motion sensors in your scripts. Once I learn more python, i'll be super excited to make a graphical program
[02:42] <Budgii> But.. you can type it out and email it to yourself. :D
[02:42] <rhyzom> Bashing-om: will give it a shot
[02:43] <Iam1> Or iCloud is handy
[02:43] <Budgii> That too.
[02:43] <Budgii> Is SASL available on your IRC app?
[02:43] <Iam1> I run Ubuntu in virtual
[02:43] <Iam1> On my mac
[02:44] <Budgii> Oh, thought you were on iPad
[02:44] <Iam1> Both
[02:44] <Iam1> No Ubuntu for ipad,,,,yet lol
[02:44] <Budgii> that;d be sweet. LD
[02:44] <Budgii> :D
[02:44] <Iam1> Maybe one day
[02:46] <Iam1> Whenever I can avoid paying for stuff I like it
[02:46] <Iam1> I think it's possible to get Ubuntu on ipad
[02:47] <Iam1> Can't see why not
[02:47] <docmur> Hey guys, I have my home folder encrypted for my user and this morning I changed my password with the "passwd" command.  My computer just rebooted and now when I try to login through GDM is just hands and kicks back out to the login GDM screen.  When I go to the console (CTRL+ALT+F2) and use ecrypt-mount-private, it doesn't seem to accept my new or old password, is there something I'm missing?
[02:48] <Iam1> IOS and Linux are very similar
[02:48] <Budgii> Linux iPad would be sweet.
[02:49] <Iam1> Could be worth a shot
[02:50] <Iam1> You have me interested now
[02:50] <Iam1> Will you buy me a new one if I brick it lol
[02:52] <Budgii> haha.. sorry :)
[02:52] <Budgii> at own risk there!
[02:53] <Iam1> I just found a YouTube how to
[02:54] <Iam1> Seems you need to jailbreak first
[02:54] <Iam1> Scary
[02:55] <Iam1> They are making it. Very hard to jailbreak
[02:56] <Iam1> Have you tried budgie desktop
[02:56] <hfp> Hi, is it possible to stream my audio to Kodi over DLNA (or AirPlay)? I don't want to serve a particular file but re-route audio from my computer speakers to my Kodi instance over the network.
[02:57] <hfp> So that whatever is playing on my computer will come out on the Kodi box instead
[03:01] <Iam1> hfp have you tried Bluetooth
[03:01] <hfp> My Kodi box doesn't have bluetooth
[03:01] <hfp> Only ethernet
[03:02] <Iam1> You can buy cheap receivers
[03:02] <Iam1> Less than 20 dollars
[03:04] <hfp> I'd rather stick with what I have already :) DLNA/AirPlay works well from my Android phone so there is no reason it shouldn't work from my Ubuntu machines. I just don't know what software to use, they all seem to be made to stream specific media files sitting on your HDD rather than the audio output.
[03:05] <Iam1> I send audio to my sound system successfully with mine
[03:06] <Iam1> If you have Bluetooth out I can't see why it shouldn't work
[03:08] <Iam1> I must admit I am not familiar with kodi
[03:11] <hfp> Kodi has support for BT I think.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> !ping
[03:30] <Iam1> I'm watching a guy on youtube bagging ubuntu for spyware and the first link he gives is to somewhere he's selling stuff lol
[03:34] <govorun> !help
[03:35] <govorun> !patience
[03:43] <xqb> anyone knows how can I reorder tabs in foxit reader? https://superuser.com/questions/95198/is-there-a-way-to-change-the-order-of-tabs-in-foxit-reader it says just to drag them and it doesn't work, yet it's the most up-to-date version?
[04:00] <leftyfb> xqb: foxit reader is not part of the official supported repository of packages. You should contact support for foxit reader.
[04:07] <s10gopal> !ping
[04:21] <stephen101> trying command sudo cp -prv /tmp/squashfs_root/* /mnt/tempMount/
[04:21] <stephen101> cp: cannot stat '/tmp/squashfs_root/*': No such file or directory
[04:21] <stephen101> but the dir is right there...
[04:22] <fishcooker> is it possible to know detail about datetime update/change of the linux-headers-generic http://vpaste.net/TXNUb
[04:27] <stephen101> nm fixed dumb i had to sudo cp -prv ~/Untitled/tmp/squashfs-root/* /mnt/tempMount/
[04:32] <Auctus> i opened the disks thing and did the smart self-test, "wear-leveling-count" says 27752 ... what does that number mean?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: ' apt changelog linux-headers-3.13.0.142.152-generic | less ' .
[05:02] <pengwen_> Auctus, do you have an old hard drive?
[05:04] <pengwen_> !ping
[05:05] <pengwen_> Who set's up the commands for the bots to respond to? they don't respond to everything, do they?
[05:05] <pengwen_> !hello
[05:05] <pengwen_> !patience
[05:05] <pengwen_> Does this channel have anything other than !ping, !help, and !patience?
[05:08] <Auctus> pengwen_: what do you mean old?
[05:13] <vern> !syntax
[05:16] <pengwen_> Auctus, like is it 10 months or 10 years old?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot > vern
[05:18] <Auctus> pengwen_: its an SSD, its from a 3 or 4 year old laptop i got secondhand
[05:18] <Auctus> the model is LITEONIT LMT-128L9M-11
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Auctus: whats your issue exactly, just joined?
[05:29] <zumba_addict> Good evening. I need to increase the timeout of a service to 5mins. Which one should I add in my service file, TimeoutStartSec, TimeoutStopSec, or TimeoutStopUSec?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> zumba_addict: systemd or init?
[05:30] <zumba_addict> systemd
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | zumba_addict can this help?
[05:30] <zumba_addict> thanks!
[05:33] <energizer> I turned on dash-to-dock and i like it but now my Super+[1-9] doesn't work, even though that option is enabled in dash-to-dock
[05:33] <energizer> I just get super+1 in the application im using
[05:34] <esotericnonsense> not sure whether I should be asking here or in #gnome, but is there a keyboard shortcut for 'switch to window' ? e.g. if I use super-left and super-right to tile two windows, can I move between them without using the mouse?
[05:39] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, alt-tab?
[05:40] <pengwen_> that's probably not what you are looking for ...
[05:40] <esotericnonsense> pengwen_: haha
[05:40] <esotericnonsense> alt-tab within a workspace would work because I generally only have two windows per workspace
[05:41] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, within a single window, if you have a bunch of table open you can switch between them with ctrl-[0-9]
[05:41] <esotericnonsense> i might just end up using i3 again, i bought a machine with touch screen / tablet etc and figured gnome would support it better, but actually it's kind of shitty anyway
[05:41] <pengwen_> (or is it alt-[0-9] ... )
[05:42] <energizer> super, unless you're having the problem that im having
[05:42] <esotericnonsense> super just does everything
[05:43] <esotericnonsense> e.g. I have three workspaces right now, i want to move between the left and right window (or between any windows) on the current workspace
[05:43] <pengwen_> when in doubt, ctrl-alt-del
[05:43] <pengwen_> fixes everything
[05:43] <esotericnonsense> alt-tab moves between everything in the entire wm, super-123 moves between things in the dock (plus favourites) which is just a thing i don't even care about. like the dock can be disabled for all i care
[05:44] <esotericnonsense> i think i'm just gonna go back to i3 hehe
[05:44]  * esotericnonsense has broken his ability to use normal-person interfaces
[05:44] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, what about ctrl-alt-[left/right]
[05:45] <esotericnonsense> are you just giving me random key combinations now? ;)
[05:45] <pengwen_> no, i don't use unity, haven't used it in a while.  but you can switch between workspaces with something like that
[05:45] <pengwen_> that's what you use in lxde
[05:45] <zumba_addict> lotuspsychje: I read the whole document but I didn't find anything related to setting timeouts
[05:46] <pengwen_> and in cinnamon (yeah, different channel, but whatevs)
[05:46] <EriC^^> that's a mk2 fatality
[05:46] <esotericnonsense> i'm using gnome shell
[05:46] <pengwen_> does ctrl-alt left arrown not switch you to a workspace to the left?
[05:47] <esotericnonsense> workspaces are vertically oriented, and it's super-alt-{up, down}
[05:47] <pengwen_> sorry, ctrl-alt-[up/down]
[05:47] <pengwen_> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-workspaces-switch.html.en
[05:47] <pengwen_> gotcha
[05:48] <esotericnonsense> err argh actually i'm wrong.
[05:48] <pengwen_> have you found a better solution for switching between windows that doesn't involve a) switch to the appropriate workspace, and then b) use alt-tab to pick out the desired window?
[05:48] <esotericnonsense> yeah ctrl-alt-{up,down} works. it's also super-{pgup,pgdown}
[05:49] <esotericnonsense> (which on my machine is super-fn-{up,down}
[05:49] <esotericnonsense> pengwen_: the problem i am having is that alt-tab switches between all windows on all workspaces
[05:49] <pengwen_> i wonder if the apple key got mapped to becoming the super key
[05:49] <esotericnonsense> if it were only within one workspace that'd be exactly what I wanted
[05:49] <esotericnonsense> it's the windows key. windows is super no?
[05:50] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, does {alt,ctrl}-` do anything useful?
[05:50] <esotericnonsense> (as in, the windows key is the super key. windows is not super)
[05:50] <esotericnonsense> alt-` switches between instances of the same currently running program
[05:51] <esotericnonsense> e.g. if I have two terminals open in different workspaces it'll switch between them (and as a result switch workspace)
[05:51] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, you can try installing dconf-editor: https://askubuntu.com/questions/464946/ubuntu-gnome-force-alt-tab-to-switch-only-on-current-workspace
[05:51] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, that's annoying
[05:52] <pengwen_> in lxde, you don't have that problem.  but the new problem they made is that every window shares the same taskbar
[05:53] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, second post in that thread suggests running "gsettings set org.gnome.shell.app-switcher current-workspace-only true"
[05:53] <esotericnonsense> yeah. i think i'm just going to go back to i3. the problem is that I wanted to learn the set of keybindings that would allow me to function on someone else's machine if they're running ubuntu
[05:54] <esotericnonsense> but i feel like i've already made enough customizations that that's not the case
[05:54] <esotericnonsense> which kind of defeats the point
[05:54] <pengwen_> What's i3?
[05:55] <zumba_addict> this helped me a lot lotuspsychje - http://alanthing.com/blog/2017/05/03/auto-restart-tomcat-with-systemd/ I'm good now
[05:55] <esotericnonsense> i3 is a tiling window manager which has an extremely unhelpful name (because of the intel core i3)
[05:55] <pengwen_> yeah, i was only aware of the "low power usage" intel processor
[05:55] <esotericnonsense> i'm setting up a new machine and thought i'd give ubuntu a go
[05:56] <pengwen_> i don't really experiment with window managers too much.  at one point i had installed xmonad, i think it was called
[05:56] <xqb> yes it's still called that
[05:57] <esotericnonsense> with a mouse none of this is really a problem. it's just on a laptop on the go that I find it frustrating.
[05:58] <pengwen_> esotericnonsense, yeah, I hear you.  I try to stay away from mice as much as possible
[05:59] <xqb> xmonad greatly helps you achieve that
[05:59] <pengwen_> right now, the settings on this track pad are too sensitve, so the mouse randomly jumps frequently as I type
[05:59] <lotuspsychje_> !yay | zumba_addict
[06:00] <esotericnonsense> my particular concern about using i3 on this laptop was that hidpi will just be a nightmare like i'll have to change every font size. but such is life.
[06:01] <pengwen_> can you guys think of any reason why i should care what language my window manager is written in?  i3 is written in C.  xmonad is written in Haskell
[06:01] <cfhowlett> doesn't matter
[06:02] <xqb> it's how you configure it that matters
[06:02] <xqb> xmonad requires you to know haskell
[06:02] <xqb> i3 has simple syntax
[06:02] <zumba_addict> :)
[06:02] <xqb> I went with xmonad because i3 has no easy way to switch between different layout algorithms
[06:02] <pengwen_> Yeah, I don't know anything about functional programming languages
[06:15] <esotericnonsense> Alt+Escape is what I'm looking for
[06:15] <esotericnonsense> with capslock rebound it's a bit easier on the hand
[06:17] <Marlene> hello
[06:17] <Marlene> How is everyone
[06:18] <Marlene> Can anyone help me?
[06:19] <Marlene> Ubuntu 17.10 and 16 lts seem to be really buggy any good alternatives to ubuntu  more stable?
[06:20] <Marlene> browser and wifi keeps crashing
[06:20] <Marlene> I have to reboot wifi for the browser to work
[06:22] <Marlene> and there is no flash
[06:33] <SemiNus> hi
[06:33] <Dorothy> hi
[06:34] <SemiNus> what is more likely?  That my computer or USB card reader is busted, or that Kubuntu kills micro-SD-cards?
[06:34] <SemiNus> the 5th time in a row I try to install Ubuntu on a Micro-SD card and the Micro-SD-Cards breaks within a few days
[06:34] <SemiNus> in the beginning, fsck can repair the file system
[06:35] <SemiNus> but after a few days, everything is so broken, that even "fsck" can't help any more
[06:35] <blutwurst> Writing logfiles and everything to the SD? Yes? Disable the permanent writing.
[06:35] <SemiNus> blutwurst, how?
[06:35] <SemiNus> Raspberries also have SD-Cards and they survived all here
[06:35] <Dorothy> Well i am new and i believe is the Ubuntu thats the ploblem i try Ubuntu for my blog and it has a lot of issues
[06:36] <SemiNus> Dorothy, Ubuntu as such is an awesome distro
[06:36] <SemiNus> Dorothy, I believe blutwurst's idea could lead to the solution
[06:36] <blutwurst> Rasps only live long when you don't write logs/tmp files to the SD
[06:36] <Dorothy> Well if it is it not behaving so awesome
[06:37] <SemiNus> blutwurst, so I need to figure out how to disable all the logging permanently
[06:37] <SemiNus> blutwurst, well, .... chattr +i on /var/log ;)
[06:37] <SemiNus> probably a bad idea
[06:37] <Dorothy> Browser is slow wifi disconnects package manager do not download properly
[06:37] <blutwurst> You could ( not recommanded )  stop the syslog. But I strongly suggest not to.
[06:38] <SemiNus> blutwurst, why not?  I can live without a syslog (I could re-enable it any time)
[06:38] <SemiNus> but having the SD-Card busted every few days is a bigger problem
[06:40] <blutwurst> Also you could go ahead and add a RAM Disk .
[06:40] <Dorothy> Nothing seems to work out of the box
[06:40] <SemiNus> blutwurst, https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/62534
[06:41] <SemiNus> blutwurst, do you think that would also work for a normal computer with normal Ubuntu?
[06:41] <blutwurst> *points to the ramdisk solution*
[06:41] <Dorothy> Can anyone recommend a more stable linux distribution with fewer issues?
[06:41] <SemiNus> blutwurst, yep, the ram disk solution is goods
[06:41] <SemiNus> *good
[06:41] <blutwurst> I think for a normal computer you should at least use a harddrive oder SSD / SSHD
[06:42] <SemiNus> Dorothy, Debian Potato.  stop trolling ^.^
[06:42] <Ben64> Dorothy: this is #ubuntu , not really the place to get distro recommendations
[06:43] <Dorothy> I have a nnew laptop i was told debian is for old machine i have an HP Expectre 360 i5
[06:45] <SemiNus> Dorothy, it was a joke.
[06:45] <SemiNus> Dorothy, Debian Potato is a decade old.
[06:45] <SemiNus> blutwurst, sudo systemctl disable rsyslog.service
[06:45] <SemiNus> blutwurst, according to my research, this should disable the logging for the current session and also after reboot
[06:45] <SemiNus> is that good enough?
[06:46] <blutwurst> reboot. tail /var/log/*log ... wait...
[06:46] <Dorothy> And is this not where you let Ubuntu know of all the issues i would think you would thank me for pointing out its issues not accuse me of trolling
[06:46] <SemiNus> thank you blutwurst
[06:46] <blutwurst> and see above iotop.. Find out what is writing to the disk. Example: Firefox profiles..
[06:47] <SemiNus> thank you blutwurst !
[06:47] <blutwurst> you're welcome. *going beack to sleep*
[06:47] <SemiNus> good night blutwurst :)
[06:47] <SemiNus> blutwurst, it's 7.47 AM ;)
[06:48] <hateball> Dorothy: This is where you get help to solve your issues, if you so like. It's not a place for pointless ranting
[06:48] <hateball> !bug | And this is where you report actual bugs, Dorothy
[06:48] <Dorothy> But if you dont care to know how terrible it handdles on a new HP 360 then i guess i will move on and just write my video review without trying to fix anything and judge it as it is
[06:48] <Dorothy> good day
[06:49] <SemiNus> Dorothy, people in the open source community put a lot of effort into building open source systems.  They usually don't charge for this, however, they pay with their precious life time, that none of them can get back even a single second.
[06:49] <SemiNus> Dorothy, so some kind of appreciation would be highly welcomed
[06:50] <hateball> Dorothy: If you expect to get help, just saying "wifi is slow, ubuntu sucks" is probably not very useful information to anyone interested in helping you
[06:50] <hateball> !details
[06:50] <SemiNus> Dorothy, if there is a problem that you can point out (e.g. "I am trying to achieve XY and tried ... but I keep getting error ..." then someone might be more than willing to help
[06:51] <ann07> hey
[06:51]  * hotbakedpotato[m gets the popcorn
[06:51] <ann07> hmmm
[06:52] <Amis> Does the latest Ubuntu releases (newer than 16.04) have the option to change th mouse scroll speed? In the GUI obviously, nobody likes tinkering with command line for that.
[06:53] <SemiNus> Amis, yes
[06:54] <Amis> SemiNus, yaay
[06:54] <SemiNus> Amis, you can use the shell to do so
[06:54] <Amis> SemiNus, amm
[06:54] <SemiNus> Amis, for example, this command would make the mouse twice as fast:
[06:54] <SemiNus> xset m 2 0
[06:54] <Amis> SemiNus, I mean if the option is available in the mouse settings, the GUI
[06:54] <Amis> A slider of some kind
[06:54] <SemiNus> Amis, no idea, I don't use the GUI
[06:54] <SemiNus> just go with the shell
[06:54] <Amis> SemiNus, alright
[06:54] <SemiNus> other example:
[06:54] <SemiNus> xset m 3 4
[06:55] <SemiNus> this would speed the mouse to a 3x speed when moved 4 counts within 10 ms
[06:55] <Amis> SemiNus, yea but then I have to set put that in a profile or something to make it permanent and try explaining that to anybody who is not tech savvy
[06:57] <Dorothy> I am with CNET and we are comparing all linux distros on new machines like the HP 360 but i guess the video that will air will be a better way to see the issues first hand a video is worth 1000 words. Thanks anyway
[06:58] <Dorothy> We are also comparing support as well bye
[06:58] <SwedeMike> Dorothy: this is not an official support channel.
[06:58] <SwedeMike> Dorothy: this is volunteers doing volunteer work.
[06:59] <Amis> Text book example of today's journalists
[07:00] <Amis> Uptight know-nothing
[07:00] <SwedeMike> if that was even a journalist.
[07:00] <Amis> Obviously: citation needed :)
[07:02] <Amis> Isn't CNET just a malware distributor nowdays anyway?
[07:18] <arunpyasi> hello anyone around please ?
[07:18] <arunpyasi> I am still unable to make the projector working in 16.04, please help me
[07:19] <arunpyasi> http://dpaste.com/3S0P5S9
[07:23] <hateball> arunpyasi: how is it connected?
[07:24] <arunpyasi>  hateball VGA
[07:24] <hateball> weird
[07:24] <hateball> arunpyasi: what gpu/driver is this?
[07:25] <arunpyasi> hateball, its Intel's
[07:25] <hateball> if it's a hybrid gpu I think in some instances you have the intel chip powering some outputs, while eg nvidia powers the others
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: did you try pressing the Fn + other screen F key?
[07:25] <arunpyasi> Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520]
[07:26] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, yes already
[07:26] <arunpyasi> doesn't work
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: and xrandr --auto ?
[07:26] <arunpyasi> hateball, it has amd and intel
[07:27] <arunpyasi> Amd as gpu and it also has intel's GPU
[07:27] <kes0> kes0: Hej
[07:27] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, auto didn't make it work
[07:28] <hateball> arunpyasi: I might be wrong here, but I *think* that it could be that you are running on the radeon driver, and the VGA output is hardwired to the Intel chip, and under X.org you can't run both chipsets at once (like you can under eg Windows)
[07:28] <hateball> And that would explain why you see the hdmi/dp outputs but not VGA
[07:33] <arunpyasi> hateball, hmm.. so, how do I fix it ?
[07:33] <arunpyasi> I am still not getting how to switch amd or intel
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: perhaps also take a look in your bios for vga settings?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> arunpyasi: check sudo lshw -C video for your chipsets+ driver versions
[07:36] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, there is nothing in bios for vga in mine
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:38] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, http://dpaste.com/01Q41T0
[07:38] <hateball> that would suggest you are not using the radeon card at all then
[07:38] <arunpyasi> hateball, ok
[07:38] <hateball> I guess you could try doing that... but on 16.04, that means using fglrx? I am not expert on AMD at all
[07:39] <hateball> arunpyasi: oh also, if you have not already, enable HWE for updated X.org and mesa
[07:39] <hateball> !hwe | arunpyasi
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> !amd | arunpyasi howto
[07:42] <ducasse> hateball: i can't recall if fglrx works with the original 16.04 kernel and x stack, but i'm positive it doesn't work with the hwe stack
[07:44] <hateball> ducasse: at any rate, HWE stack should provide updated radeon, no?
[07:45] <ducasse> yes, i agree with that part. as you say, this could be caused by hybrid graphics, not sure how to fix that.
[07:45] <arunpyasi> lotuspsychje, I am working on enabling HWE now
[08:04] <rebecca88> I can't figure out how to get my 4th monitor to work using xrandr
[08:04] <rebecca88> Does anyone have experience w/ this ?
[08:05] <Triffid_Hunter> rebecca88: usually just xrandr --output <name> --right-of <some other output> --preferred
[08:05] <Triffid_Hunter> rebecca88: keep in mind that graphics drivers have a hard upper limit on the size of the virtual screen, you may be running into that
[08:06] <rebecca88> Triffid_Hunter, ah that may be what it is... darn
[08:06] <rebecca88> i'm using amdgpu-pro with 2x 1080p, 1x 1200p, 1x 1440p on an R9 290
[08:06] <Triffid_Hunter> rebecca88: eg mine says "Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2560 x 1440, maximum 32767 x 32767"
[08:06] <rebecca88> Oh I can check ?
[08:06] <Triffid_Hunter> first line from xrandr
[08:07] <rebecca88> Mine is 16384 x 16384
[08:07] <Triffid_Hunter> rebecca88: yeah so you've probably maxed virtual, might have to arrange your screens in a square rather than a line
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !info arandr | rebecca88 arunpyasi also usefull alternate xrandr tool
[08:09] <rebecca88> i put it in a square but it's kind of messed up now. brb gonna relog
[08:12] <rebecca88> Okay so what happens is by default the monitor is black
[08:13] <rebecca88> I played around with --addmode and --output and got the monitor to be really dim once, once it mirrored another monitor, and once it went this weird teal color
[08:14] <rebecca88> I ran `cvt 2560 1440 60` which returned `Modeline "2560x1440_60.00"  312.25  2560 2752 3024 3488  1440 1443 1448 1493 -hsync +vsync`
[08:14] <Triffid_Hunter> woah, modelines? I thought we left those in the early naughties
[08:15] <rebecca88> So I did `xrandr --newmode "2560x1440_60.00"  312.25  2560 2752 3024 3488  1440 1443 1448 1493  -HSync +Vsync; xrandr --output DVI-D-1-3 --mode "2560x1440_60.00"`
[08:15] <rebecca88> Did we? Idk I'm lost
[08:15] <rebecca88> I may have been reading stuff for 12.04
[08:16] <Triffid_Hunter> rebecca88: that should all be completely automatic on basically anything that's not ancient.. even VGA had a way for monitors to tell the graphics card what settings they support
[08:18] <rebecca88> Triffid_Hunter, it works well in Windows but no Linux distro has played nice with all 4 monitors
[08:18] <rebecca88> I think I am running into that limit like you said. I do have 2x R9 290s though
[08:19] <rebecca88> Maybe I could get around the limit by splitting up the monitors among the 2 cards ?
[08:20] <rebecca88> I would kill to have linux working w/ these monitors... so sick of using windows+wls+conemu
[08:21] <rebecca88> Conemu makes me want to blow my brains out
[08:25] <rebecca88> Nevermind the limit is not the issue. I'm way below 16384 x 16384
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> rebecca88: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=quad_monitor_linux&num=4
[08:31] <rebecca88> That article is from 2013
[08:34] <arunpyasi> Hi guys, installing HWE, fixed it
[08:35] <rebecca88> Is it possible to "convert" xrandr's output to xorg.conf ?
[08:43] <pragomer>  I have a server/cloudstorage that is connected via sshfs. I have password encrypted 7z-archive with size 7 GB there. Navigating through the archive is pretty fast. But when extracting lets say an 50kb file this takes as long as copying the 7GB. Any hints how I could make this more smart?
[08:48] <rebecca88> pragomer, rclone mount maybe
[08:49] <ioc_> pragomer, if you can restructure the thing, nextcloud + encryption, or a git server + encfs
[08:55] <rebecca88> K it's official this is impossible
[08:55] <zx> hello all
[08:56] <rebecca88> Everything results in an unusable monitor or "Configure crtc 6 failed"
[09:02] <BitByBit> good morning. I have an ubuntu 16.04 distro on an ARM device. I try to install some package, like distcc.. but apt-get tell me there isnt suitable packages. Is there a way to verify that or if i miss repos?
[09:05] <ioc_> BitByBit, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=distcc lists arm64 armhf for xenial
[09:18] <BitByBit> ioc_, Thankyou for your support.. so I wonder why apt-get tell me that: Package distcc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:18] <BitByBit> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:18] <BitByBit> is only available from another source
[09:18] <BitByBit> E: Package 'distcc' has no installation candidate
[09:18] <BitByBit> ops. sorry for multiline
[09:20] <BitByBit> this is my /etc/apt/sources.list  http://www.mpaste.com/p/MKZhAV
[09:22] <ducasse> BitByBit: you need to activate the universe repo
[09:28] <iceskins[m]> Hello, i have a question about active pen support in Ubuntu. I'm using an older hp laptop with a wacom pen digitizer in built. I'm thinking of upgrading. The new hp laptops have many different types of pen tech. Is there a list anywhere of what is likely to work in Ubuntu?
[09:28] <lupulo> BitByBit man sources.list
[09:32] <lupulo> BitByBit, you could use synaptic
[09:33] <patoo_001> how do i change kernel in use?
[09:35] <lupulo> patoo_001, go to kernel.org and download a new one
[09:35] <lupulo> patoo_001, or select a image from ubuntu repositories
[09:35] <patoo_001> I have it installed already.
[09:36] <patoo_001> Changing it from current?
[09:36] <ducasse> patoo_001: reboot and select it from the grub menu
[09:39] <patoo_001> thanks. Let me check.
[09:41] <leeyaa> hi
[09:41] <leeyaa> anyone know why i am not able to start nfs on xenial ? https://bpaste.net/show/de02311eec45
[09:41] <leeyaa> happened after upgrade
[09:42] <leeyaa> seems like nfsd module is missing
[09:44] <Ool> leeyaa: dpkg -l |grep nfs to see what you have (and what missing)
[09:45] <Ool> for a server apt install nfs-common nfs-kernel-server and it's ok
[09:45] <leeyaa> Ool: nfs packages are already installed
[09:46] <Ool> with II at the begining ?
[09:47] <leeyaa> Ool: yeah
[09:47] <leeyaa> i tried reinstalling them before coming here
[09:47] <Ool> strange, perhaps try a dpkg-reconfigure nfs-kernel-server,
[09:48] <leeyaa> Ool: tried, says it is broken
[09:48] <Ool> I'm sure nfs works on xenial, but I don't know what's your problem
[09:48] <leeyaa> or not fully installed
[09:48] <Ool> leeyaa: so purge them all and try to install them back
[09:48] <leeyaa> well there are a few bugs for xenial, not sure if they are related in any way
[09:48] <leeyaa> Ool: already tried
[09:48] <leeyaa> apt-get install --purge nfs-kernel-server && apt-get install nfs-kernel server
[09:49] <leeyaa> it fails on install
[09:49] <leeyaa> erm apt-get remove --purge i mean
[09:49] <BitByBit> add-apt-repository universe -> command not found
[09:49] <leeyaa> i even treid apt-get remove nfs-*
[09:49] <leeyaa> and then reinstall
[09:50] <Ool> did apt update && apt dist-upgrade works ?
[09:50] <leeyaa> yep
[09:52] <ducasse> leeyaa: where did you get the kernel from?
[09:53] <ducasse> leeyaa: is it a standard ubuntu kernel?
[09:53] <BitByBit> Ool, yes they work
[09:54] <ducasse> BitByBit: add-apt-repository is in the software-properties-common package
[09:55] <BitByBit> ducasse, So i need to apt-get install  software-properties-common ?
[09:56] <ducasse> BitByBit: either that or add universe manually
[09:56] <BitByBit> ducasse, you mean i can add universe to the existing sources in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:57] <lupulo> leeyaa, nfs has two version, xenial could have changed its default version of nfs, and the configuration files not work.
[09:57] <leeyaa> ducasse: it is
[09:57] <leeyaa> ducasse: it is 4.4.0-104-generic
[09:57] <ducasse> BitByBit: yes, just add ubiverse after main
[09:58] <leeyaa> lupulo: you mean to remove /etc/exports and try again ?
[10:00] <Ool> ii  libnfsidmap2:amd64                  0.25-5                                     amd64        NFS idmapping library
[10:00] <Ool> ii  nfs-common                          1:1.2.8-9ubuntu12.1                        amd64        NFS support files common to client and server
[10:00] <Ool> ii  nfs-kernel-server                   1:1.2.8-9ubuntu12.1                        amd64        support for NFS kernel server
[10:00] <Ool> sory for flood
[10:01] <Ool> but this is on a nfs server runnong
[10:01] <Ool> dpkg -l |grep nfs
[10:01] <Ool> running on Xenial
[10:01] <leeyaa> same https://bpaste.net/show/03d0f1dc4adc
[10:01] <leeyaa> still doesnt start
[10:02] <BitByBit> ducasse, Thankyou. I got it to work.
[10:02] <ducasse> leeyaa: try reinstalling the kernel
[10:02] <ducasse> BitByBit: yw
[10:02] <lupulo> leeyaa, you could see the version of nfs and see the files what that version requires.
[10:04] <lupulo> leeyaa, fstab changes too,  NFS version 2, 3 and 4 export configurations are not always compatible. https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s3-nfs-server-config-exportfs-nfsv4.html
[10:04] <leeyaa> lupulo: fstab doesnt matter here - deamon doesnt start
[10:04] <leeyaa> ducasse: tried that as well
[10:04] <leeyaa> ;p
[10:04] <leeyaa> very weird
[10:05] <Ool> leeyaa: did you have some modification in /etc/default/nfs* ? did you try without any exports ?
[10:07] <leeyaa> Ool: yes
[10:07] <leeyaa> problem is it reports that nfsd module is missing
[10:07] <leeyaa> even though it is present at /lib/modules/4.4.0-104-generic
[10:08] <Ool> 4.4.0.104 is the kernel you use ?
[10:08] <Ool> you are not using 4.4.0-112-generic ?
[10:08] <SysGhost> what does uname -r say?
[10:08] <leeyaa> it is 4.4.0-104-generic
[10:08] <leeyaa> wait what
[10:09] <SysGhost> if uname -r and the instlled kernel version differs, it means one need to reboot to load the new kernel.
[10:09] <leeyaa> ok so i copied /lib/modules/4.4.0-104-generic/ from a working server and not it works
[10:10] <leeyaa> strange
[10:11] <leeyaa> seems to be resolved now, but could not figure out what had happened
[10:12] <SysGhost> check out what package that are supposed to own that module, and try reinstalling it. Having loose files out of package control is generally not a good idea.
[10:13] <leeyaa> SysGhost: it is the same package, but i think some files were corrupted.
[10:14] <SysGhost> repair the file system, and reinstall the package inquestion should then solve it.
[10:14] <leeyaa> yeah
[10:14] <leeyaa> thats some Yoda stype typing
[10:14] <leeyaa> style*
[10:17] <leeyaa> thanks for the tips guys
[10:32] <ircuser> Failed to download repository information Check your internet connection error inspite of having internet : Details : https://pastebin.com/KvVw7UBM
[10:35] <add1ctus> I recently installed Ubuntu on a new machine, intending to use Intel GPU for display and NVIDIA GPU for deep learning. Everything was working well until I installed the latest NVIDIA drivers (from their website, a .run file). Now I'm stuck in a login loop (after I enter my password, black screen, then back to login). This is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WvSVVwZGY9/
[10:35] <add1ctus> Anyone can help me troubleshoot?
[10:41] <JimBuntu> add1ctus, I had a similar issue when I updated my drivers to their latest version. I would up having to force purge everything related to their drivers, update my kernel again, then re-install. In my case, it seemed their installation program missed a dependency.
[10:42] <JimBuntu> add1ctus, I was left basically with an apt that wouldn't complete installations because it was stuck with a bad install that couldn't complete in the queue... using `apt-get install -f` wasn't resolving the issue.
[10:42] <psem> Hi Guys, I'm new to ubuntu. I have a problem. After booting with windows once after long having not used it, i rebooted to ubuntu and found i was no longer able to rename files or cut them despite having permission to create and dlt files. Please help
[10:52] <ruchika> hello
[10:52] <ruchika> i've just joined hexchat
[10:53] <ruchika> looking forward to learn irc
[11:05] <ducasse> add1ctus: you should not have used the drivers from the nvidia website, but the packages in the repo or the graphics-drivers ppa
[11:06] <JimBuntu> ruchika, welcome. Quick advice is to pay attention to channel topics. Take the time to look through the list of channels and join a bunch to find ones that you like.
[11:06] <add1ctus> JimBuntu: I uninstalled the driver (ran the .run file with --uninstall) and purged with apt purge nvidia-*. Still can't seem to log in. This time, I'm stuck with a wallpaper and nothing else. Any other ideas?
[11:07] <add1ctus> I guess I'll start off with a fresh installation, will save me time
[11:07] <JimBuntu> add1ctus, purge again and try what ducasse is suggesting... using Ubuntu official drivers.
[11:09] <ghost2911> hi. cat /proc/cpuinfo shows bugs cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2. It means my cpu is vulnerable to these attacks ?
[11:22] <Anon95412652538> Hello, I am trying to compile this on Ubuntu 16.04 for the past 3 days with, can anyone please help me?
[11:22] <Anon95412652538> https://github.com/nemosminer/ccminer-hcash/releases
[11:22] <hateball> !compile | Anon95412652538
[11:23] <ducasse> Anon95412652538: for help with random software from github, contact the maintainer
[11:24] <ioc_> ghost2911, almost all processors on the desktop market are vulnerable, install security updates (including kernel updates) and you'll be safe
[11:38] <ghost2911> ioc_, thanks
[11:39] <ircuser34> On giving the command sudo apt-get update I get : https://pastebin.com/ctdGxPcz
[11:40] <ircuser34> "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead"
[11:50] <ioc_> ircuser34, line 84
[11:51] <ioc_> the cdrom:// stuff can be ignored
[11:51] <DiecastMessiah> ircuser34: well you could remove the cdrom in software and updates .. but for the old one.. you must have add PPA's that have old server links that are not used.. so no problem there you can uncheck those as well.. but i do is a pubic key error .. and not sure about that myself.. just means that the key is no good for one of those PPA
[11:53] <DiecastMessiah> i could be wrong.newbie here .. but maybe uncheck the cdrom in software and updates and than try to do apt-get update again
[11:55] <ircuser34> I cannot remove the cdrom in softwares and updates. https://imgur.com/a/JPqJf
[11:57] <DiecastMessiah> In Other software uncheck at the top the cdrom one
[11:57] <DiecastMessiah> sorry i thought it was on the first tab but wasn't
[11:58] <cool3d> blub
[11:58] <ircuser34> Done but still get an error. https://pastebin.com/HuZgxc6x
[12:00] <Ool> ircuser34: https://askubuntu.com/questions/13065/how-do-i-fix-the-gpg-error-no-pubkey
[12:00] <Ool> => sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <PUBKEY>
[12:01] <DiecastMessiah> Ok well i have no idea what docker is.. but it a problem with the key .. some PPA get you make one.. You need to wait for someone that knows better than I ..
[12:01] <Ool> for the  NO_PUBKEY
[12:01] <DiecastMessiah> oops thanks Ool
[12:01] <Ool> if you don't need docker
[12:01] <Ool> you don't need this ppa too
[12:03] <Ool> DiecastMessiah: docker is too manage Container: http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-docker-and-why-is-it-so-darn-popular/
[12:05] <Adrian> k tal
[12:06] <ircuser34> I get this https://imgur.com/a/9Ux69 in the terminal. I can't get past this
[12:06] <ircuser34> The scroll doesn't show
[12:06] <Borw3> Hello, guys, just installed Lubuntu, I try doing apt-get upgrade, and it goes untill it reaches a point and says.....
[12:06] <Borw3> rr:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 firefox amd64 58.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1   502  Bad Gateway [IP: 91.189.88.162 80]
[12:08] <Ool> Borw3: perhaps try to choose an other repo with the update application
[12:08] <Borw3> Ool: But its the default Ubuntu repo, I am using, why should it be having such problems?
[12:09] <Borw3> Ool: ANyways, how can I change it?
[12:10] <DiecastMessiah> ircuser34: hit tab till the ok show up and hit enter or spacebar i think
[12:10] <Outy> ircuser34: just press enter and follow instr. its an installer for truetype fonts
[12:11] <Outy> Jeah TAB to the OK button
[12:11] <DiecastMessiah> i should have said tab till ok is highlighted
[12:12] <DiecastMessiah> you'll see that sometimes when non free stuff is installing
[12:12] <gautamS> hello guys
[12:12] <Ool> Borw3: like this  https://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[12:13] <gautamS> ld errors out like this: "/usr/bin/ld: i386:x86-64 architecture of input file `curl/lib/.libs/libcurl-debug.a(content_encoding.o)' is incompatible with i386 output"
[12:13] <gautamS> first
[12:13] <gautamS> what does i386:x86_64 mean
[12:13] <gautamS> is it i386 or x64
[12:14] <DiecastMessiah> 32 bit or 64 bit
[12:14] <gautamS> then why is it incompatible with i386 output
[12:14] <Ool> gautamS: on the ld command did you put the (…) ?
[12:14] <gautamS> actually this isn't my program
[12:14] <gautamS> i'm trying to build doom3 from source
[12:15] <gautamS> i'll check the SConstruct file
[12:15] <Ool> it's a 32 bits version and you use a 64 bits one ?
[12:16] <gautamS> yes
[12:16] <ircuser34> Now when I try to update I get https://pastebin.com/1mg2JwME
[12:16] <gautamS> in their SConstruct file, they have explicitly added rules for 64-bit systems
[12:17] <gautamS> like this: if(g_os == 'Linux') .. BASELINKFLAGS.append( '-m32' ) ..
[12:17] <gautamS> g_os is probably the output from uname
[12:18] <gautamS> basically how do I apt-get a 32-bit version of curl
[12:18] <gautamS> development package obviously
[12:19] <DiecastMessiah> not sure if the package name is but just add at the end package name :i386
[12:19] <DiecastMessiah> of **
[12:19] <ioc_> google "ubuntu cross-compiling 32 bit"
[12:20] <ioc_> (i guess it's not just about curl, isn't it going to error out for libc6 etc.?)
[12:20] <gautamS> wait
[12:20] <gautamS>  /facepalm
[12:20] <gautamS> doom3 has it's own version of curl
[12:21] <Sven_vB> is there a way to use unetbootin on a 32bit trusty system to make a 64bit xenial liveusb with casper? currently the live system drops to an initramfs shell with error "/cow format specified as overlay and no support found", grep can't find neither "cow" nor "overlay" in /proc/filesystems. "modprobe cow" quits w/o output, same for "overlay" and "overlayfs", still they're not in /p/fs.
[12:21] <gautamS> that's located under "./neo/curl" (. being the root source directory)
[12:21] <Neo> lies
[12:22] <Neo> I am not a directory
[12:22] <ircuser34> :') :')
[12:22] <DiecastMessiah> ircuser34: that error just means it cannot find the list from that ppa.. it ok you can go ahead and do apt-get upgrade now...
[12:23] <Sven_vB> also in case unetbootin can't do it, what's another somewhat-easy method?
[12:24] <ioc_> Sven_vB, persistent usb?
[12:25] <Sven_vB> ioc_, yes, partition 1 on the USB drive is a FAT volume with a large file casper-rw with my seeds and config detection scripts. partition 3 is the unetbootin partition. worked nicely for 32bit ubuntus, so my suspicion is that I'm missing a 64bit overlay fs kernel module. on the other hand, if Windows unetbootin can do it, maybe it's another problem.
[12:26] <Sven_vB> partition 3 (with the live CD files) is FAT32 as well. partition 2 is ext3 for data exchange.
[12:27] <Sven_vB> as usual, I told unetbootin to create 4 MB persistence file, then deleted that manually so casper falls back to the one on partition 1
[12:28] <Sven_vB> *idea!* I'll try whether I can mount the fat partitions.
[12:30] <ircuser34> DiecastMessiah: Actually when I try building my file I get the same error, so I guess I need to get past through the error :)
[12:31] <DiecastMessiah> ircuser34: oh you are building .. than i am sorry i have no idea .. i am far not a programmer
[12:32] <ircuser34> Nvm DiecastMessiah Thanks for the help you provided :)
[12:32] <Sven_vB> the live usb had them already mounted. /dev/sda3 as /cdrom, /dev/sda1 as /casper-rw-backing, /dev/loop0 as /cow. I can even see my custom config files in /cow/upper/etc/
[12:33] <Sven_vB> however they don't exist in initramfs's /etc
[12:35] <Sven_vB> wow that's odd. I'll take a photo of that screen. (I wish I has a serial cable or sth.)
[12:37] <Borw3> Anybody having problems with sudo apt-get upgrade? mine keeps failing when it reaches to download the firefox packages :(, help please
[12:39] <kostkon> Borw3, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin the output
[12:47] <Mongoose> Hi
[12:49] <d_1_stortion> hi
[12:50] <d_1_stortion> does anyone know how to fix theming on 16.04 with virtualbox 5.2 because it's using qt?
[12:54] <ioc_> d_1_stortion, #virtualbox
[12:56] <Sven_vB> well I ran out of time for this attempt. I'll ask again later when I managed to make the photos and maybe even OCR them.
[13:00] <Sven_vB> what kind of cable would I need to make future failing initramfs send a copy of its output to another computer as text?
[13:08] <ioc_> in theory you don't even have to test it on bare hardware. kvm -m 1G -drive file=/dev/sdb,format=raw      never tried whether -serial file:output.log would put the logs in an output file on the host
[13:12] <fishie> why does my Xubuntu "Software" no longer find software? When I search for something the loading spinner just spins indefinitely. I can't even switch tabs or stop it.
[13:12] <fishie> oh I can stop it.
[13:12] <fishie> but I can't even load the "Updates" tab.
[13:13] <leftyfb> fishie: what version of ubuntu?
[13:13] <fishie> leftyfb, I always forget how to check that.
[13:14] <leftyfb> fishie: cat /etc/issue
[13:14] <fishie> 16.04.4
[13:14] <leftyfb> fishie: run: sudo apt update
[13:14] <fishie> ah. hm. http://www.fosslinux.com/1768/fix-ubuntu-software-center-not-loading-issue-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts.htm
[13:17] <fishie> oh god what have I done
[13:17] <fishie> uninstalling gnome software is uninstalling a GB of stuff? I see nvidia and wine .... is it uninstalling my whole OS??
[13:19] <fishie> huh. my game seems to be running so I guess it didn't break it.
[13:20] <DiecastMessiah> mmm did you run??? you shouldn't be seeing uninstalling if you did what leftyfb said
[13:21] <fishie> well what he said didn't fix it.
[13:22] <fishie> the page I pasted went further, telling me to uninstall and reinstall gnome. which ALSO didn't fix it. so the last step is to install Synaptek Package Manager... which... doesn't seem to be finding Steam. god I hate my life.
[13:24] <DiecastMessiah> I wouldn't use those.. much better to do it yourself in termial... so all you want to do it install steam?
[13:24] <fishie> for now, yeah.
[13:24] <WIFIwanter> Hello
[13:25] <WIFIwanter> I have a USB-WLAN-Card
[13:25] <WIFIwanter> After restart WLAN doesn't connect automatic
[13:25] <DiecastMessiah> ok i'll around for the software problem... but for now you can type in termial sudo apt-get install steam
[13:25] <WIFIwanter> I must remove the USB-WLAN-Card before I can connect!
[13:25] <WIFIwanter> What I have to do that I don't must remove the card?
[13:29] <Mememmam> Memes
[13:29] <TJ-> fishie: your symptoms remind me of an early bug in software-center where it messs up it's per-user cache/config, under $HOME/.cache/ $HOME/.local/ or $HOME/.config/ - I don't remember which but maybe that'll help you find the bug/solution
[13:30] <DiecastMessiah> fishie: i hope you reinstalled gnome.. but try sudo spt-get remove software-center  .. once that done sudo apt-get install software-center
[13:31] <add1ctus> I have an Nvidia GPU I use for ML. It only works with Tensorflow if I add /usr/lib/nvidia-384 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. But if I put that environment variable in /etc/environment, then I can't log in (it just sends me back). Any ideas how to fix?
[13:31] <fishie> DiecastMessiah, alright. I'll try that next.
[13:32] <DiecastMessiah> add1ctus: a login loop// you put in the passwrod does it flash and than shows the login screen again?
[13:32] <Borw3> I am back out cause of internet problem, please, assist, I can't sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade cause getting error on firefox package.
[13:32] <hateball> !paste | Borw3
[13:32] <TJ-> fishie: a possible fix from comment #15 onwards in bug #1563155
[13:32] <Outy> I recently (like a few secs ago) installed WolfenBlood from SoftwareCenter. But I can not find this piece of software with apt list. It got installed from Snap Store.
[13:32] <hateball> Outy: "snap list"
[13:33] <hateball> Outy: and "snap run whatever"
[13:33] <add1ctus> DiecastMessiah: I enter the password. It shows the background for a few seconds, then a black screen, then back to the login screen.
[13:33] <Borw3> hateball: please assist, can't sudo apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade the firefox package in fresh Lubuntu install
[13:34] <Outy> hateball: thanks a lot. is there any kind of snap purge whaterver ???
[13:34] <DiecastMessiah> add1ctus: yeah its a login loop.. you have to remove nvidia drvier is the only fix i know .. after that you can try installing it again
[13:34] <hateball> Borw3: I just told you to pastebin whatever errors you get
[13:34] <hateball> Outy: to remove a package you mean? snap remove package
[13:34] <hateball> Outy: snap --help, should show you what you can do
[13:35] <Outy> hateball: thanks... hope remove is like purge - i like a clean system
[13:35] <add1ctus> DiecastMessiah: But everything is working fine when I don't have /usr/lib/nvidia-384 in /etc/environment. I use my Intel GPU without any problems, and if I do the export manually, I can use my Nvidia GPU without problems.
[13:36] <Borw3> hateball: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fJKB5y7TPd/
[13:36] <Borw3> Or anyone please help, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fJKB5y7TPd/
[13:38] <DiecastMessiah> add1ctus: oh it a optimus computer.. its a bugger to get it going.. not i am very new to linux so i guess it best to wait for someone who can help ya better
[13:38] <Borw3> I can't sudo apt-get update, please help: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fJKB5y7TPd/
[13:38] <Borw3> I mean upgrade*
[13:38] <DiecastMessiah> it took be couple of weeks to get my laptop working fully. just finally have my games running
[13:39] <TJ-> add1ctus: adding it to /etc/environment means everything tries to use it which is why it breaks the X display session. As you know it works when set manually before running tensor, then create a wrapper shell script for launching tensor which sets the variable first
[13:40] <hateball> Borw3: suppose you could try a different mirror perhaps
[13:41] <Borw3> hateball: I have tried, same problem.
[13:42] <Borw3> hateball: Currently on main server option, was on my local server before.
[13:42] <Borw3> ...and both don't apt-get upgrade the firefox package.
[13:43] <DiecastMessiah> did you autoclean i think it is to clean out downloaded packages?
[13:44] <Borw3> DiecastMessiah: How to autoclean?
[13:44] <DiecastMessiah> maybe a corruped package is the problem
[13:44] <TJ-> Borw3: the problem is the server, not your system
[13:45] <Borw3> TJ-: LOL, you experiencing same problem? cause I did apt-get upgrade....
[13:45] <Borw3> .....and all packages upgraded except firefox
[13:46] <DiecastMessiah> does it hang while it downloading the firefox package.. or when it installing the package?
[13:46] <TJ-> Borw3: no, but I manually tested the IP address you got using a telnet session. I've reported it to the server admins
[13:46] <Borw3> DiecastMessiah: It cancels the download, doesn't reach installing...
[13:46] <Borw3> ...I evenhad to do --fix-missing to skip firefox
[13:46] <Guest65680> desmet stijn
[13:47] <DiecastMessiah> kk yeah its the server
[13:47] <TJ-> Borw3: just be patient; it'll be fixed soon
[13:47] <Friedel> Hello
[13:47] <Borw3> TJ-: Thanks mate.
[13:49] <TJ-> Borw3: if you want a /temporary/ workaround do " echo "91.189.91.23 security.ubuntu.com " | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts" -- that'll add a working fixed IP address for that hostname rather than relying on round-robin DNS... then remove it later on
[14:07] <TJ-> Borw3: server fixed, if you added the entry to /etc/hosts you can remove it now
[14:09] <Borw3> TJ-: Thanks, let me try now
[14:14] <hik4ry> hello
[14:16] <Outy> hello =)
[14:16] <hik4ry> whats up
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:32] <hellyeah> avidemux is not in ubuntu
[14:35] <z3u4r5dok> hi guys I have an issue with vmware
[14:35] <z3u4r5dok> I cannot fix I'm desperately trying to find a solution on ubuntu
[14:36] <z3u4r5dok> my error message is the following:\
[14:37] <z3u4r5dok> E: Malformed entry 44 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (component)
[14:37] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok: correct the syntax of the offending line
[14:38] <z3u4r5dok> E: the list of sources could not be read
[14:38] <z3u4r5dok> I am sorry but I'm new, I have read some many tutorials and websites and fell lost more and more
[14:39] <z3u4r5dok> Can you please direct me how, please??
[14:39] <Sorfrost> sudo vi  /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:39] <Sorfrost> :44
[14:40] <Sorfrost> to go to the 44 line
[14:40] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok: show us the file: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:40] <leftyfb> Sorfrost: I wouldn't suggest vim to someone who is new to linux
[14:41] <leftyfb> TJ-: I don't think pastebinit it installed by default
[14:42] <TJ-> leftyfb: if it's not the friendly-commands thing should give the install command
[14:42] <z3u4r5dok> how to install pastebin??
[14:43] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok: try this instead: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:43] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: sudo apt install -y pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:43] <Sorfrost> I have a problem with audio. It only shows Dummy Output from the gui. This is my alsa-info http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b27b6bc04d7c00fe10c94c672acc5624bf1c6669
[14:44] <Sorfrost> and i found this i dmesg
[14:44] <Sorfrost> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VCyjgr4kMv/
[14:44] <z3u4r5dok> let me try please
[14:45] <ioc_> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | grep 44       and post here
[14:47] <z3u4r5dok> it throws me the following:
[14:47] <z3u4r5dok> http://termbin.com/t2di
[14:49] <z3u4r5dok> ??
[14:49] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok: some lines do not specify the ubuntu release
[14:49] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok: e.g. "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe" and others
[14:50] <z3u4r5dok> so what to do next??
[14:50] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok: and you have entries for th 12.04 Precise release that should not be there too
[14:51] <z3u4r5dok> no, my release is 16
[14:51] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok: Yes, 16.04 Xenial but you have entries for 12.04 Precise at the end
[14:51] <z3u4r5dok> 16.04 TLS
[14:51] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ###   delete everything there and copy/paste this into it ##  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/39tzPtt4zb/
[14:53] <Borw3_> TJ-: So, when I do upgrade I gota wipe old version from sources.list.d?
[14:54] <Borw3_> and also sources.list file itself?
[14:54] <leftyfb> Borw3_: an upgrade done properly should do that for you
[14:54] <leftyfb> Borw3_: but if you're doing the upgrade manually for some reason, yes, that is necessary
[14:55] <Borw3_> Also, I recently tried Manjaro, and it seems to have a kernel that supports my wifi more...
[14:55] <Borw3_> ...I was wondering if there is a way to update to that version of kernel in ubuntu?
[14:55] <leftyfb> !hwe | Borw3_
[14:56] <momo12> hello
[14:56] <Borw3_> ubottu: I am on 4.13.x on 16.04 and wifi signal works, but seems to be lower in performance compared to kernel 4.20.x in Manjaro one.
[14:57] <TJ-> Borw3_: there is no kernel 4.20
[14:57] <z3u4r5dok> I'm just created an account with paste bin just a second please
[14:58] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: you do not need an account with "paste bin" to copy what's there and paste into your sources.list
[14:58] <momo12> Borw I have the same issue with firefox i try to use ubuntu with chrome and is the same it it very slow. Some times i need to turn off wifi and back on to make it work but is very slow
[14:59] <leftyfb> Borw3_: as TJ- said, there is no 4.20 kernel. 4.15 is the latest stable kernel. All other kernels would still be under development. I think the latest under development kernel is 4.18
[15:00] <leftyfb> er, 4.16, sorry
[15:00]  * TJ- loves Ubuntu TimeTravel :p
[15:00] <momo12> It worked fine before the update wifi and firefox
[15:01] <TJ-> momo12: check the retries/error/invalid counts using "iwconfig"
[15:02] <momo12> lol so TJ im new to this and even worse im a girl lol
[15:02] <TJ-> momo12: why is that worse? intelligence is worse?
[15:02] <Sorfrost> anyone able to debug audio issues? ubuntu 17 with 4.13 kernel on a dell vostro 15 5000
[15:03] <TJ-> Sorfrost: Your dmesg shows the device codec cannot be found, I wonder if the system's ACPI firmware is causing a device discovery issue
[15:03] <momo12> You might as well talk to me in chinese lol :P
[15:04] <Sorfrost> Should i update BIOS?
[15:05] <nicomachus> Sorfrost: what
[15:05] <nicomachus> why would updating your BIOS be your first idea for an audio issue?
[15:05] <nicomachus> Sorfrost: going to need more info about your audio issues.
[15:06] <momo12> Well im in college and im sick of guys thinking they know more than me so im trying to use linux to prove to myself i can do something beside putting make up on lol
[15:06] <TJ-> Sorfrost: is there a BIOS/firmware option controlling the audio device?
[15:06] <nicomachus> !pm | Sorfrost
[15:06] <z3u4r5dok> Hi there how can I give you access to my paste bin is called Ubuntu issue
[15:06] <momo12> This is my challage and i will make it or else hehehe
[15:07] <TJ-> momo12: the command "iwconfig" shows wireless devices and lists various counters for invalid packets, excessive retries. If those numbers grow rapidly or are large that indicates a problem.
[15:07] <nicomachus> Sorfrost: just type the first few letters of someone's name and then hit the "TAB" key, it'll auto-complete the name and tag the user
[15:07] <momo12> i wish i didnt have to cheat and ask for help but i guess im out of my element lol
[15:07] <TJ-> Sorfrost: can you show us "dmesg | pastebinit"
[15:08] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ###   delete everything there and copy/paste this into it ##  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/39tzPtt4zb/
[15:08] <Sorfrost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YgshPgcqyh/
[15:09] <z3u4r5dok> https://pastebin.com/dEwpdMCd
[15:09] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ###   delete everything there and copy/paste this into it ##  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/39tzPtt4zb/
[15:10] <z3u4r5dok> Did you see it??
[15:10] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: did you see what I've told you to do 3 times now?
[15:10] <Outy> where are the snap packages/containers stored?
[15:10] <momo12> OK Tj Thank you :P
[15:11] <z3u4r5dok> sorry will do it inmediatly
[15:11] <Outy> found it sorry for asking
[15:11] <momo12> Whre do i use the command?
[15:11] <Outy> its /snap
[15:11] <yatta> Hi, I have problems with files I don't want on hard disk at this time...this permutation of files is killing me softly.
[15:11] <momo12> omg nevermind sorry im better read more on basic before commung here
[15:12] <momo12> so sorry
[15:12] <leftyfb> yatta: please offer more detailed information
[15:12] <momo12> Im a dumb blonde here
[15:12] <momo12> bye
[15:12] <Sorfrost> TJ-, nicomachus i posted the dmesg and the alsa-info. Do you need anything else to help you debugging?
[15:13] <TJ-> Sorfrost: OK, so those dmesg errors are related to the HDMI audio only
[15:13] <TJ-> Sorfrost: no, I think we have everything we need ... so far :)
[15:14] <Sorfrost> TJ-, thank you!
[15:14] <TJ-> Sorfrost: so I think we can ignore those errors they are for /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0  HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP
[15:14] <yatta> I am afraid of popping up questions like "...are you sure you want to delete file...". Are you sure this... are you sure that... I just know I don't need some files on my hard and it scary enough I they'll be permanetly lost. What that even means?
[15:14] <TJ-> Sorfrost: so now we have to find the built-in audio device!
[15:15] <leftyfb> yatta: what is your question?
[15:16] <Sorfrost> TJ-, there is also this " MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 10ac08 " in dmesg but i dont think it's related to audio
[15:16] <TJ-> Sorfrost: there is no audio device I can see. Can you "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[15:17] <Sorfrost> TJ-, there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HMy28rW5qv/
[15:17] <TJ-> Sorfrost: you are correct; those are for the nvidia GPU
[15:17] <Sorfrost> TJ-,  it's a Dell Vostro 15 5000 series
[15:19] <TJ-> Sorfrost: OK, I was wrong, that is the built-in sound device but it appears to have ports for built-in and HDMI
[15:19] <alnx> hi, today my boss gave me a laptop to upgrade, which runs on ubuntu 15.04. I want to upgrade it to 16.04. when i tried "update-manager -c" it showed 15.10 upgrade available, but the urls are failing to download upgrades. how can i do this upgrade without format and reinstall?
 you told me just to erase eveything and copy the info in your links as root??
[15:20] <yatta> leftyfb, lets start with question does fb in your nick stands for facebook?
[15:20] <TJ-> Sorfrost: this could be an ACPI issue; whilst I research more please try this possible workaround:  http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[15:20] <EriC^> !eolupgrades | alnx
[15:20] <leftyfb> yatta: trolling is offtopic. Do you have a support question?
[15:21] <Sorfrost> z3u4r5dok, it wasnt me. but yes. erase everything and put the other lines in source.list
[15:21] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ok thx a lot
[15:21] <z3u4r5dok> I did it gives me something else let me show you
[15:24] <z3u4r5dok> https://pastebin.com/FNW6KFDs
[15:24] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: you did not do what I told you
[15:25] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ###   delete everything there and copy/paste this into it ##  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/39tzPtt4zb/
[15:25] <TJ-> Sorfrost: if that doesn't work try installing a recent Ubuntu mainline kernel build in case it's fixed in later kernels
[15:25] <TJ-> !mainline | Sorfrost
[15:25] <z3u4r5dok> sorry I will do it again
[15:25] <Sorfrost> you are writing those lines in the shell
[15:25] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: do not do the exact thing you did before again. Do exactly as I told you
[15:25] <TJ-> Sorfrost: I have a script to make downloading and installing mainline kernel images easy: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh
[15:26] <alnx> Eric^, thanks
[15:26] <EriC^> alnx: no problem
[15:27] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ok i try rebooting now with the acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\" see how it goes
[15:27] <Sorfrost> TJ-, brb dont go away!
[15:27] <TJ-> Sorfrost: good luck :)
[15:29] <Sorfrost> TJ-, can i view from terminal which option i used for booting?
[15:30] <Sorfrost> i edited default/grub and did update-grub but i want to be sure it booted right
[15:30] <TJ-> Sorfrost: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[15:30] <TJ-> Sorfrost: that's the kernel's view of it's command line
[15:31] <Sorfrost> ok then
[15:31] <Sorfrost> TJ-, BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.13.0-36-generic root=UUID=7cb41753-425d-4ae6-a15e-a9fd1d1c6757 ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet splash pcie_aspm=off vt.handoff=7
[15:31] <Sorfrost> TJ-, that's correct, but didnt solve the issue :P I'll try the latest kernel as u suggested
[15:32] <TJ-> Sorfrost: so the option is active; does the dmesg still show the Codec #0 probe error
[15:32] <TJ-> Sorfrost: there might be a different message (if we're lucky!)
[15:33] <Sorfrost> TJ-, no it's still the same. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zb6dTD6MBm/
[15:33] <TJ-> Sorfrost: OK, another thing to test before you try a newer kernel.
[15:35] <TJ-> Sorfrost: echo "options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf"
[15:36] <TJ-> Sorfrost: then try to remove and reinsert the module with "sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel" then "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel" and test. If the module cannot be removed due to being in-use, do a reboot to test it
[15:36] <campitor> hi there folks
[15:37] <campitor> I am trying to run ubuntu live 16.04.3 on asus N552V
[15:37] <Sorfrost> TJ-, on it
[15:37] <campitor> The problem is there is only a purple screen
[15:37] <campitor> and the rolling stones don't roll
[15:37] <z3u4r5dok> I guess I just finally did
[15:37] <campitor> any help?
[15:37] <z3u4r5dok> How to prove it??
[15:38] <z3u4r5dok> I saved in nano?? All I see is the text I copied
[15:38] <ioria> !nomodeset | campitor
[15:39] <ioria> campitor, and if you have a maxwel nvidia i'd disable secure boot
[15:40] <z3u4r5dok> leftyfb: What can I do next??
[15:41] <Sorfrost> TJ-, still no luck https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B9JH2pm75h/
[15:41] <TJ-> Sorfrost: looking
[15:41] <Sorfrost> TJ-, should i remove the boot option i inserted before?
[15:42] <z3u4r5dok> I did what you told me now if I enter this sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ### what pops up are the contents of the file you ask me to copy...
[15:42] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: try sudo apt update
[15:42] <TJ-> Sorfrost: I'd recommend keeping the acpi_osi values; they can only help possibly with things you don't realise are sub-optimal (power levels, device config)
[15:42] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ok
[15:43] <TJ-> Sorfrost: I think it's time to try a mainline kernel
[15:43] <z3u4r5dok> can i upgrade now??
[15:43] <skinux> Why are global installations of node tools discouraged on Ubuntu?
[15:44] <skinux> It seems to me they all get installed under $HOME/.node
[15:44] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok: sure, try: sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade
[15:45] <Sorfrost> TJ-, do i need to know anything else other that what's written in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[15:45] <TJ-> Sorfrost: I have a script to make downloading and installing mainline kernel images easy: "mkdir $HOME/Downloads/kernel; cd $HOME/Downloads/kernel; wget  http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh ; bash ./wget_kernel_mainline.sh v4.15.5"
[15:45] <Sorfrost> TJ-, right. sry
[15:46] <TJ-> Sorfrost: that'll fetch the list, then the kernel v4.15.5 then install the packages for you
[15:47] <z3u4r5dok> I am working on it....
[15:47] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i read you need to uninstall out-of-tree modules before updating or you'r machine will likely not boot
[15:47] <Sorfrost> TJ-, like virtualbox
[15:48] <Sorfrost> TJ-, does your script take care of that?
[15:48] <kfirufk> hi! :) trying to fully understand how x11 forwarding works. why it needs the DISPLAY environment variable and what supposed to set it ?
[15:48] <docmur> I'm trying to find a keylogger for Ubuntu 17.10.  I'm SSH'd into the box, I can no physical access to it.  I install logkeys and build it by source, but the log file is alway blank, same with with simple-key-logger
[15:48] <TJ-> Sorfrost: no, what should happen is as the new kernel is installed it triggers the DKMS to build the O.O.T. modules against the new kernel headers
[15:48] <docmur> Is there a good keylogger or a functional one?
[15:48] <docmur> *have no phyiscal access
[15:48] <Sorfrost> TJ-, all right, on it
[15:48] <z3u4r5dok> leftyfb: Still doing it... so fsr so good
[15:49] <TJ-> Sorfrost: it may be the DKMS build fails due to changes in the mainline code since the O.O.T. driver was released, but any O.O.T. driver shouldn't be essential for booting... sometimes network or possibly GPU
[15:49] <inky> timedatectl says NTP synchronized:yes but the time is 3 minutes ahead of what it really is.
[15:50] <TJ-> Sorfrost: once the install is done yu can double-check state of DKMS-managed O.O.T. modules with "dkms status"
[15:51] <Outy> docmur: did u try: https://github.com/gsingh93/simple-key-logger
[15:52] <docmur> Yes
[15:52] <docmur> it installed fine and it generates the logfile, but the logfile was blank
[15:53] <Outy> docmur: have you done every step in readme?
[15:54] <docmur> Yep, ran Make, then sudo ./skeylogger
[15:54] <Sorfrost> TJ-,  ./wget_kernel_mainline.sh v4.15.5 error: Cannot find version  v4.15.5 in the Ubuntu mainline kernel archive
[15:54] <Sorfrost> TJ-, but i just checked it, and the folder is there
[15:55] <TJ-> Sorfrost: hmmm, let me test here, but I use it all the while !
[15:55] <TJ-> Sorfrost: worked here
[15:56] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ok i will double check
[15:56] <campitor> ioria: thank you
[15:56] <Sorfrost> TJ-, in mainline-kernel.list the entry is there
[15:57] <campitor> problem solved
[15:57] <ioria> campitor, it's ok
[15:57] <Quenz> Thunderbird works fine on my Mac, but not on Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS. Same Thunderbird version. Outputs from host command on mail servers: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6qZgTMC9Bq/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/drZTthtfwn/ Using alternate DNS fixes the issue, but makes the internet slow.
[15:58] <TJ-> Sorfrost: has it created a sub-dir for that version in kernel/ ?
[15:58] <Outy> docmur: that was not the question. have you prepared everything to use it - follow instructions in readme.md
[15:58] <Quenz> The DNS was changed in my router, but I've since changed it back.
[15:58] <Outy> docmur: its not like you can simply run a keylogger without preparations
[15:58] <Sorfrost> tj no just the text file. i just downloaded your script
[15:58] <docmur> To quote the read me: To build and run, clone the repository and run `make`. Then run `sudo ./skeylogger`. The keylogger will start and log all keypresses to `/var/log/skeylogger`.
[15:59] <Outy> docmur: it has to have some sudo privileges
[15:59] <docmur> Which it did
[15:59] <Outy> docmur: use THIS one: https://github.com/gsingh93/simple-key-logger   do the readme and it should work
[16:00] <TJ-> Sorfrost: right, the text file is generated from the HTTP server's directory list of versions, so it should then be able to download the matching dir. Try doing "bash -x ./wget_kernel_mainline.sh v4.15.5"    -x will show what it is doing
[16:00] <Sorfrost> TJ-, do i need to do exaclty what you said for it to work? like kernel in my downloads dir etc?
[16:00] <TJ-> Sorfrost: it'll work from the current directory; The reason I gave those directory commands is to stop it polluting your $HOME
[16:01] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ok with no option i downloaded 4.16 rc3 and exited with exit-code 3
[16:02] <TJ-> Read the output you probably need to install the kernel team's GPG key first
[16:02] <TJ-> the key ID is reported then the suggested command to add that key a few lines later
[16:05] <TJ-> Sorfrost: once you've installed the key, you can rerun the same command it won't download any packages it's already fetched, it'll just go ahead and install
[16:06] <z3u4r5dok> I got a message:
[16:06] <Sorfrost> TJ-, kk
[16:06] <z3u4r5dok> Configuration file '/etc/vmware-tools/tools.conf'
[16:07] <z3u4r5dok> Modified (by you or by a script) sine installation
[16:07] <Sorfrost> TJ-, you can run your own script with v4.15.5 as argument?
[16:07] <z3u4r5dok> package distributor has shipped an updated version
[16:08] <z3u4r5dok> What would you like to do about it? your options are:
[16:08] <TJ-> Sorfrost: yes, I tested it when you said you had the issue
[16:08] <tomreyn> !paste | z3u4r5dok
[16:08] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ok ill just try that manually np
[16:08] <z3u4r5dok> Y od I : Install the package maintener's version
[16:09] <z3u4r5dok> N or 0
[16:09] <Outy> z3u4r5dok: think if you changed anything important to this config file. if not go with the new one. if yes keep old one
[16:09] <z3u4r5dok> ok, hte last line says
[16:10] <z3u4r5dok> ***tools.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [Default=N] ?
[16:11] <z3u4r5dok> I should say yes???
[16:11] <Outy> z3u4r5dok: do you use vmware tools heavily and professional? keep     its just a hobby: take new config file
[16:11] <z3u4r5dok> thanks
[16:12] <Outy> z3u4r5dok: your're welcome
[16:12] <z3u4r5dok> I will type Y
[16:12] <Outy> if it is a hobby yes =)
[16:13] <Outy> z3u4r5dok: its not that you could damage something here - its just a config file. and if anything is configured wrong - you can reconfigure
[16:14] <z3u4r5dok> I'm a bit scared I have never done anything like it.. and yyou guys have help me a lot
[16:15] <z3u4r5dok> I am very thankful about your existence
[16:15] <Outy> =)
[16:18] <z3u4r5dok> Guys i have to go my battery is dying but thanks you so much to all of you.. Thnaks
[16:18] <z3u4r5dok> I'll be back in a couple hours hopefully you'll be here
[16:18] <Sorfrost> TJ-, still no luck http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nkDjVs4hzM/
[16:19] <Sorfrost> TJ-, if it can help us, i was on debian 1 week ago and sound worked perfectly
[16:20] <TJ-> Sorfrost: this feels like a firmware settings issue because the kernel is unable to probe the device codecs
[16:20] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i double check my bios settings
[16:20] <Sorfrost> TJ-, maybe i did something bad
[16:20] <Sorfrost> TJ-, brb
[16:24] <ycyclist> #readtime
[16:25] <svavs> We are currently building out a kiosk using 16.04 with a touchscreen monitor. Everything is working great, but we would like to turn disable multitouch on the monitor. I figured this would be done via xorg.conf, but I cannot seem to find any information on how to do this. The monitor is using the evdev driver
[16:26] <jdr> what desktop environment ?
[16:26] <svavs> jdr: lightdm
[16:27] <lab26> hi
[16:28] <lab26> ,hjn
[16:28] <lab37> your a bumhole
[16:28] <lab26> poopy pants
[16:28] <nicomachus> svavs: lightdm isn't a DE
[16:28] <svavs> we are running chromium in kiosk mode - we disabled pinch to zoom but sometimes the clients will click with two fingers, which chrome ignores since it seems to be registering as a pinch-to-zoom gesture
[16:29] <jdr> You said lightdm....but what happens after you login?
[16:29] <svavs> we run chromium in kiosk mode
[16:29] <nicomachus> svavs: 16.04 with lightdm as a display manager is probably Unity as the DE
[16:29] <alnx> EriC^, when i do do-release-upgrade it said "An upgrade from vivid to xenial is not supported with this tool." what should i do now, please help
[16:31] <Sorfrost> TJ-, still no luck. i restore factory default settings from bios which were the ones i was using with debian (sound was ok)
[16:31] <jdr> If its unity, check out unity-tweaks
[16:31] <lab37> ho
[16:31] <lab37> hi
[16:31] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i could flash new bios i guess
[16:31] <TJ-> Sorfrost: I've been looking at the Dell support site. Two things I found
[16:31] <nicomachus> s/unity-tweaks/unity-tweak-tool/
[16:32] <lab23> hi
[16:32] <lab37> hi
[16:32] <lab37> make your thng smaller
[16:32] <TJ-> Sorfrost: 1) there's a new firmware http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=CY184
[16:32] <nicomachus> lab37: lab23 this is an ubuntu support channel. If you don't have ubuntu support questions, please leave.
[16:32] <Sorfrost> TJ-, yes saw that too. just released
[16:32] <TJ-> Sorfrost: and more likely, in firmware setup there are 2 audio options 1) enable/disable microphone **AND** 2) enable/disable speakers
[16:32] <lab23> hi
[16:32] <svavs> jdr: thanks - I will check that out
[16:32] <lab37> yo
[16:33] <TJ-> Sorfrost: manual says "Enable Internal Speaker (by default enabled)"
[16:33] <lab37> anyone in this chat
[16:33] <lab37> hiiii
[16:33] <nicomachus> !ot > lab37
[16:33] <TJ-> Sorfrost: did you check that since the issue is a missing codec?
[16:33] <nicomachus> !coc > lab37
[16:33] <alnx> this channel should be restricted to registered user only. else little things/bumholes will popup and annoy
[16:34] <m3rlin> Hi too
[16:34] <TJ-> Sorfrost: found here under System setup options > System Configuration screen options > Audio  http://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/04/vostro-15-5568-laptop/vostro5568/system-configuration-screen-options?guid=guid-68a70088-52b2-47cd-882a-ecff20468194&lang=en-us
[16:34] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ill check that out
[16:36] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ah yes sure. in the bios i double checked speakers were on
[16:37] <alnx> someone pls help, i'm trying to upgrade 15.04 to 16.04 following eolupgrades doc, but when i do do-release-upgrade it said "An upgrade from vivid to xenial is not supported with this tool." what should i do now, please help
[16:38] <Ool> alnx: normal, it's too late,  your version is out of date
[16:39] <TJ-> Sorfrost: sounds silly but try disabling speakers, reboot, then re-enable them... it's not unknown for silly bugs like that to affect nvram config
[16:39] <alnx> Ool: i really need to get this upgrade done without reinstalling, its my boss laptop
[16:39] <Sorfrost> TJ-, will do.
[16:40] <ioria> alnx, just to be sure...    grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades    what it says ?
[16:40] <alnx> pls let me know any workarunds
[16:40] <alnx> it says lts
[16:40] <ioria> ah
[16:41] <Ool> strange to have prompt=LTS at first on a 15.04
[16:42] <jdr> Backup his files and configs and do a fresh install.
[16:42] <leftyfb> ^ that will be the easiest and cleanest way
[16:42] <leftyfb> and quickest
[16:42] <jdr> But why go to just 16.04?
[16:42] <leftyfb> because it's LTS
[16:43] <leftyfb> and the upgrade to the next LTS in April will be cleaner than any other upgrade
[16:43] <Ool> leftyfb: +1
[16:43] <jdr> true
[16:43] <jdr> i didnt see the he wants to stay on LTS
[16:43] <alnx> yes, my plan is to do 16.04 for now and later to 18.04 when it released
[16:43] <Ool> except I'm sure it will not be in april but later
[16:43] <jdr> Gotcha.
[16:44] <leftyfb> alnx: the cleanest, easiest and quickest way to accomplish that is to do a clean install of 16.04 and restore from backup
[16:44] <Outy> jdr: made a backup already ?
[16:44] <jdr> Outy: alnx is the one needing to upgrade
[16:44] <Outy> sorry got names wrong ^^
[16:44] <alnx> Outy: hi :)
[16:45] <jdr> alnx: Bite the bullet. Backup, re-install, restore his files....kaboom.
[16:45] <Outy> so im interested too - how is it done a full distro upgrade?
[16:45] <Sorfrost> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vpmkk9wFM9/ i completely disable audio controller and now i dont have that error in dmesg
[16:45] <TJ-> Sorfrost: do you know which kernel version your previous Debian install used? support for the AL3266 codec has been in-kernel since 2015 so there's no problem in supporting that
[16:46] <alnx> i folled the eol upgrades doc and added old-release url to apt sources.list and did dist-update
[16:46] <TJ-> Sorfrost: Great, so that confirms that firmware setting completely disables the PCI 1f.3 device. Re-enable it and see what happens
[16:46] <Sorfrost> TJ-, was a very standard debian stretch
[16:47] <Sorfrost> TJ-, yep, rebooting
[16:48] <alnx> can i unpack 15.10 iso to a webserver and do the upgrade from there and then to 16.04 from ubuntu.com repos?
[16:49] <VanceCole> Hello. I have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1725555 on 17.10, it looks like it has a fix very recently committed for bionic. Can I install the .deb for bionic on 17.10 or is that a terrible idea?
[16:49] <leftyfb> VanceCole: that is not the best idea
[16:50] <VanceCole> Any suggestions for a better way to fix it?
[16:50] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ok im in the same situation i was before now
[16:51] <TJ-> Sorfrost: something else I noticed in the Dell user guide is the power settings. Are you currently booting it with AC attached and powering the PC? There seems to be a 'peak' option where even if AC is connected in daytime it won't use it :s   ... laptops often put PCI devices into a low power state on battery **AND** you have disabled PCI advanced power management on the kernel command line with the
[16:51] <TJ-> "pcie_aspm=off" - **remove that**
[16:51] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i cant explain this myself :P
[16:52] <Sorfrost> TJ-, reboot?
[16:52] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i just remove the pcie thing
[16:52] <TJ-> Sorfrost: remove the entry from /etc/defualt/grub, "update-grub" then reboot
[16:53] <Sorfrost> TJ-, ye sure
[16:54] <jdr> alnx: couldnt you just add the old-releases repo to your sources.list?
[16:54] <alnx> jdr: i did for vivid, do i need to do it for xenial too?
[16:54] <Truk> hello i cant find my cron logs
[16:55] <Truk> in /var/log/syslog the logs only begin at 6 am
[16:55] <alnx> Truk: restart syslog
[16:55] <Truk> this is a ec2 ubuntu instance
[16:55] <Truk> alnx: my cron job was at 0 am
[16:56] <alnx> then check for any syslog-<yesterday date> files under /var/log
[16:56] <Sorfrost> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gq8QmG9XMv/
[16:57] <jdr> alnx: yes add willy
[16:57] <noname_> hi
[16:57] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i put those options to correct these errors, anyway audio still not working
[16:58] <tomreyn> VanceCole: unless you know how to apply diffs to source code and rebuild packages and don't mind doing it again until it's fixed in ubuntu 17.10, nothing but wait.
[17:00] <TJ-> Sorfrost: OK, we can disable AER independently without disabling ASPM though - we'll look at that later. Let's see if the 1c.4 bridge is in front of the audio device. "lspci -tnnv"
[17:00] <Truk> ok thank you alnx :)
[17:01] <Sorfrost> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gSmQFSDdWN/
[17:01] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i wrote you privately, can u enable pming for a sec
[17:01] <TJ-> Sorfrost: for disabling AER use "pci=noaer"
[17:01] <tomreyn> VanceCole: chances are that with an importance of 'Low' this wont get fixed in 17.10, however
[17:02] <Sorfrost> TJ-, where do i write that?
[17:02] <Sorfrost> TJ-, boot option?
[17:02] <VanceCole> tomreyn: I will probably just configure monitors manually then until 18.04 comes out
[17:02] <VanceCole> thanks
[17:02] <TJ-> Sorfrost: add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="..." in /etc/default/grub
[17:05] <TJ-> Sorfrost: I'd suggest a firmware update next, this really feels like firmware isn't correctly enabling something. We've checked existing settings, we're optimised the ACPI, and we know disabling internal speakers in firmware makes the device disappear, so more-and-more this looks like firmware induced
[17:05] <tomreyn> VanceCole: note that (at least this is how it wa sin the past) upgrades to bionic won't be available until 18.04.1 is released. ubuntu 16.04.1 was released on  July 21st, so that's roughly when to expect bionic upgrades to work in 2018.
[17:06] <alnx> jdr: i added wily old-release urls and ran apt-get update and dist-upgrade, it showed the updates, should i proceed?
[17:06] <VanceCole> np, I can manually configure monitors.xml its just annoying when switching back and forth between docked and laptop mode
[17:07] <VanceCole> I can just write a shell script or something to swap out configs tho
[17:07] <tomreyn> VanceCole: right, that's what i'd do.
[17:07] <raidghost> Just a maybe weird question: When linux finds 3 tvtuner cards. But the application says there`s 2 cards. How could that be?
[17:07] <Sorfrost> TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vvSWjc9RxH/
[17:08] <tomreyn> raidghost: if the kernel actually handles all of them properly, then it would seem to be a shortcoming of the application.
[17:08] <TJ-> Sorfrost: do you have a headphone connected ?
[17:09] <Sorfrost> TJ-, no but i can connect one
[17:09] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i didnt have one connected during all these tests
[17:10] <TJ-> Sorfrost: ok not sure if this might help - not checked what "tlp" is yet - but read especially last comment in this thread https://forum.manjaro.org/t/dell-vostro-5568-audio-issues/17186/2
[17:10] <tomreyn> alnx: the better approach is to reinstall.
[17:10] <TJ-> !info tlp
[17:11] <TJ-> Sorfrost: hmmm, interesting, do you have any power saving tools intalled like "tlp" or "laptop-mode-tools" ?
[17:11] <tomreyn> alnx:since you're been running an unsupported (read: no fixes for (potentially) remotely exploitable, critical security vulnerabilities) release for soooo long.
[17:11] <jdr> he doesnt want to do a reinstall
[17:12] <raidghost> tomreyn: Any suggestion to application for testing. ?
[17:12] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i dont but i guess ill follow this guide https://medium.com/@tom.suffern.wright/better-battery-life-on-ubuntu-17-10-4588b7f72def
[17:12] <tomreyn> raidghost: no, sorry, i have almost 0 experience with tv tuners.
[17:13] <alnx> tomreyn: its my boss's. i will see if jdr's solution works, else i will return it for data backup. thanks.
[17:13] <Sorfrost> TJ-, if i need one. because this is a very fresh ubuntu installation though
[17:13] <TJ-> Sorfrost: we're almost there!! read last comment https://askubuntu.com/questions/841759/sound-stopped-working-on-ubuntu-16-10-dell-vostro-5568
[17:13] <TJ-> Sorfrost: we did that ^^^^^ but try it again and after plug in the headphones :D
[17:14] <Sorfrost> TJ-, lol. this sounds like vodoo but ill try
[17:16] <tomreyn> alnx: i don't see how "it' my boss's" makes a difference there, unless he decided it or you're convinced you know what he'd chosen, knowing the choices well.
[17:16] <tomreyn> anyways, good luck
[17:19] <alnx> tomreyn: thanks, i wish the release upgrade tool becomes more intelligent than now to handle these kinds of situations.
[17:19] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i disabled and reenabled sound with headphones plugged in. same result
[17:19] <raidghost> tomreyn: So there could not be a adressing limit for pci-cards ?
[17:20] <Sorfrost> TJ-, i didnt completely boot into system after disabling. just rebooted to apply the modifications
[17:20] <pragomer1> i have a logitech bluetooth mouse on my laptop and the movings are very very laggy. I am under 17.10. what could be the reason
[17:20] <tomreyn> alnx: i think there is work underway (or planned) to actively notify you if your release is reaching (and approaching) EOL.
[17:20] <Sorfrost> TJ-, but i think that's enough
[17:20] <TJ-> Sorfrost: OK, well that report and others seems to confirm there's a firmware issue, so upgrade to latest, do a default-config reset if possible, and check careful all the power-saving options that could affect this device going into a low-power state
[17:20] <djokjula> hello?
[17:20] <Sorfrost> TJ-, will do. thanks a lot for you time. ill be here again if i need :P bye!
[17:21] <tomreyn> djokjula: hello.
[17:21] <tomreyn> raidghost: i think it's limited by your # of pci lanes
[17:21] <tomreyn> + memory
[17:21] <soskicp> Hello
[17:22] <djokjula> Hi
[17:22] <m3rlin> Hi
[17:22] <soskicp> What's up
[17:22] <djokjula> how to go private?
[17:22] <tomreyn> !ot
[17:22] <raidghost> djokjula: Depends how private
[17:22] <m3rlin> Just double click nick
[17:22] <TJ-> Sorfrost: shame you missed this one https://wyldeplayground.net/sound-stopped-working-on-ubuntu-16-10-dell-vostro-5568/
[17:23] <raidghost> tomreyn: but then it shouldnt show up in lspci with 3 cards.
[17:23] <raidghost> So must be some buggy application
[17:23] <tomreyn> raidghost: if it lackaed pci lanes, yes, it would not.
[17:24] <raidghost> I thought pc`s didnt have limits. But so wrong could i be:p
[17:27] <TJ-> raidghost: 1 device may not be fully configured by kernel (missing firmware, etc.)
[17:34] <GoopAway> So, at my school, they have Windows 7 (and probably some Microsoft server somewhere), and they've allowed me to log in to 1 computer with special credentials, and log into another computer in the area with the same credentials. I know none of these are zero clients, and its weird (IIRC) they have physical accounts and accounts that only work if the server and computer connect.
[17:34] <GoopAway> How would I do the same thing for Ubuntu?
[17:34] <GoopAway> a Ubuntu desktop with Ubuntu server.
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> GoopAway: we have a nice #ubuntu-server channel if you like
[17:36] <TJ-> GoopAway: use samba as an Active Directory server the same as Windows does it; it uses an LDAP service
[17:39] <xromulus> Let's say your wireless router is on 192.168.1.5 and your modem/dns is at 192.168.1.1. Sometimes I connect via wifi and have internet access other times I connect and change the routing to say 192.168.1.5 is the default gateway and the dns is at 192.168.1.1 and it works. Sometimes there is nothing I can do, no connection. Why with network manager does it work sometimes but not always? I am receiving an ip via dhcp..
[17:39] <xromulus> What's t
[17:39] <xromulus> This all about
[17:41] <TJ-> xromulus: sounds like both devices might be operating DHCP services and the PC gets confused
[17:41] <xromulus> Hmm
[17:41] <xromulus> Weird anyway huh?
[17:43] <TJ-> xromulus: having 2 active DHCP servers on the same ethernet segment certainly is weird
[17:43] <xromulus> Lol..
[17:43] <OerHeks> certainly a wifi setting issue
[17:43] <xromulus> Got em
[17:44] <OerHeks> * in the router
[17:45] <Lithium64> How can I clean uninstall xboxdrv? I uinstalled it but the xpad mimic controller is still enabled on evdev
[17:46] <xromulus> On the router I suppose I could set it to receive the ip from 192.168.1.1 and default gateway to 192.168.1.5 on my pc?
[17:47] <OerHeks> Lithium64, you will need to logou/login i guess, and see if there is still a config folder under ~/.config
[17:53] <SimonNL> xromulus: disable dhcp on first router let that router handle dhcp for second one
[17:53] <SimonNL> oops on second router!
[17:53] <SimonNL> xromulus: disable dhcp on second router let first one handle it
[17:54] <xromulus> Ok
[17:55] <SimonNL> mmm xromulus not sure if that good advice
[17:55] <SimonNL> thats*
[17:56] <xromulus> Whatever I'll try it
[18:00] <raidghost> TJ-: Missing firmware it cant be. Installed the firmware and drivers from hauppage webpage.
[18:00] <raidghost> But i did discover that in /dev/dvb/ that there was 4 adapters missing for the last card
[18:01] <raidghost> So might be memory pci-e issues or something
[18:01] <leftyfb> xromulus: put your router on a different subnet
[18:01] <leftyfb> xromulus: the WAN will be 192.168.1.5, but the LAN should be something like 192.168.0.x or 10.1.10.x
[18:02] <leftyfb> xromulus: or better yet, get your ISP to put your modem into bridge mode and just set your router's WAN to DHCP
[18:03] <TJ-> raidghost: show the dmesg log in a pastebin
[18:06] <raidghost> TJ-: Will do
[18:08] <raidghost> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/Sx48Qy0v
[18:10] <sorinescu> Hi
[18:11] <arooni> for a network drive attached via samba; how can i permanently delete the .Trashes folders and any files i've previously deleted?  in the future i'd like to permanently delete things and not go thru a 2 step process; how can i do this?
[18:14] <TJ-> raidghost: "cx23885: cx23885[0]: warning: unknown hauppauge model #166200"
[18:15] <raidghost> Weird? I might test another card then.
[18:18] <TJ-> raidghost: ahhh, that's a red herring, it is still being configured. My eyes may be skipping but I'm sure I've counted 4 devices being configured (based on the tveeprom report groups)
[18:19] <TJ-> raidghost: ahhh, here we go "cx23885[5]: dvb_register_adapter failed (errno = -23)"
[18:19] <TJ-> raidghost: that's line 1405 of your pastebin
[18:20] <raidghost> TJ-: will try to google and test. Got some more information to work on now so. THANKS ;)
[18:20] <TJ-> raidghost: I'm checking the source to find out what error 23  is caused by
[18:20] <loginoob> Hello please someone help me with my HDD which is not showing up. But it does shows in ls usb and when i do tail -f /var/log/syslog
[18:20] <loginoob> This is the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog
[18:20] <loginoob> http://lpaste.net/362957
[18:21] <loginoob> and this is the output of sudo lsusb -v http://lpaste.net/362956
[18:21] <loginoob> Please help me someone who know about HDD
[18:21] <JimBuntu> loginoob, what's the result of `lsblk`?
[18:21] <loginoob> JimBuntu: Wait sir
[18:22] <loginoob> JimBuntu: This http://lpaste.net/362958
[18:23] <leftyfb> loginoob: it's a 1TB drive that has no partitions
[18:23] <JimBuntu> loginoob, Ok, I see the device being listed... I don't see any partitions. Have you checked the drive with something like `gparted`?
[18:23] <JimBuntu> loginoob, Ah, ok. You will need to partition it.
[18:23] <TJ-> raidghost: interestingly you may have been correct about the limit: "#define ENFILE          23      /* File table overflow */"
[18:23] <loginoob> JimBuntu: I tried gparted but it scans forever when external HDD is connected
[18:24] <loginoob> leftyfb: I don't know what happened It has data in it
[18:24] <loginoob> It suddently stopped working
[18:24] <leftyfb> loginoob: not anymore
[18:24] <loginoob> :(
[18:24] <leftyfb> loginoob: try plugging it into another machine?
[18:24] <loginoob> But can we make it run again?
[18:24] <loginoob> leftyfb: I tried but same thing
[18:24] <JimBuntu> loginoob, Do you have another drive that you can make an image of this drive onto? i.e., do you have another spare 1G somewhere?
[18:25] <leftyfb> loginoob: if it's confirmed that the drive has a fault, you destroy it and get another one. Putting more data on it is futile
[18:25] <loginoob> JimBuntu: I can arrange another 1 GB but i don't know how to make the image if this drive is not showing
[18:25] <raidghost> TJ-: Maybe i should try to remove some pci-e cards (not the tuner cardws) and see if it shows up)
[18:25] <TJ-> realies: how many /dev/video/ devices are there ?
[18:25] <TJ-> ooops
[18:25] <TJ-> raidghost: how many /dev/video/ devices are there ?
[18:25] <loginoob> leftyfb: How to confirm if the drive is faulty
[18:25] <pikapika> Hi
[18:25] <raidghost> Its quad cards. So 4 tuner each card
[18:26] <raidghost> at the moment it says 8
[18:26] <JimBuntu> loginoob, you can use things like `dd` on the raw device... there are also other utils, it will also show you if the drive is faulting when being read... there are specific utils for that as well, generally the first order of business is to make a bit for bit copy of the original drive if possible and if the data is worth it to you
[18:26] <TJ-> raidghost: so 4 x 4 ? that sounds like a likely limit, let me check if that is a kernel limit or system-defined
[18:27] <raidghost> TJ-: root@mediabox:/dev/dvb# ls
[18:27] <raidghost> adapter0  adapter1  adapter2  adapter3  adapter4  adapter5  adapter6  adapter7
[18:27] <pikapika> I am planning to remove my windows from dualboot. First I am backing up data to external drive. Now when I boot to the Ubuntu installed in the harddrive itself, it recognizes the disk fine. But now in live boot from a usb drive, it is saying "Unable to mount [hard disk name]"
[18:27] <raidghost> each adapter name is DVB-C or dvb-T
[18:27] <JimBuntu> loginoob, This is the Ubuntu Data Recovery page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[18:27] <loginoob> JimBuntu: And can you guide me to a specific tutorial or document so that i can follow it? Or is it some paid utility?
[18:27] <pikapika> I need live mode to safely backup the Ubuntu partition if I am not wrong, so what is wrong here?
[18:28] <pikapika> Its an ntfs disk
[18:29] <pikapika> The external one I mean
[18:29] <JimBuntu> loginoob, in the link, there is a section titled 'Imaging a damaged device, filesystem or drive', but I suggest you read the entire thing once before starting anything
[18:29] <TJ-> raidghost: in /boot/config I see CONFIG_DVB_MAX_ADAPTERS=8
[18:29] <loginoob> ok I will try
[18:31] <TJ-> raidghost: something to try to get more info, remove "quiet splash" from kernel boot parameters and add "debug systemd.log_level=info" then on boot look for the message "Registering adapters failed. Check DVB_MAX_ADAPTERS in config."
[18:33] <raidghost> TJ-: You are a great person! Thanks. will check it out after late food
[18:34] <TJ-> raidghost: it does look right now like you're limited by the Ubuntu kernel's config here; I don't see any way to dynamically increase the MAX value at runtime.
[18:36] <raidghost> TJ-: just currious. What was your first computer (386/486/Pentium 1 2 3 ?
[18:37] <JimBuntu> TJ-'s first computer was hand crafted from wood, I think.
[18:37] <raidghost> :P
[18:37] <raidghost> lol
[18:37] <JonelethIrenicus> i am trying to connect to a device, but I think it might already be claimed
[18:38] <TJ-> raidghost: JimBuntu isn't far wrong; A Sinclair ZX80
[18:38] <raidghost> Have to google that:P
[18:38] <loginoob> what does swapoff -a does?
[18:38] <TJ-> loginoob: turns off swap for 'all' devices
[18:38] <JimBuntu> loginoob, `man swapoff`
[18:38]  * vlt had a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC_85
[18:38] <raidghost> TJ-: Holly Molly. Looks like a early raspian pi :P
[18:38] <TJ-> loginoob: see "man swapoff"
[18:39] <TJ-> raidghost: 1MHz Zilog Z80 CPU :)
[18:39] <raidghost> Ooh. What a lovely spec
[18:39] <TJ-> 4KB of RAM and seemed like a lot :D
[18:39] <raidghost> 4KB oh. Lord have mercy.
[18:39] <loginoob> I saw man swapoff but i am not able to understand
[18:40] <loginoob> if i run the command is it safe? Will it give problem
[18:40] <raidghost> TJ-: Just enought ram and cpu for plex :P
[18:40] <TJ-> raidghost: anyhow... your issue... can you "/join #ubuntu-kernel" I'm asking canonical kernel team if we can increase the config ... not had a reply yet
[18:40] <vlt> TJ-: My KC-85 used an East German Z80 clone :-D
[18:41] <TJ-> loginoob: "swapoff -a" will disable all swap files/partitions which are used as a backup if RAM starts to het exhausted, instead of killing processes
[18:41] <TJ-> vlt: really? I've still got a ZX81 here in a shoe box :)
[18:41] <raidghost> TJ-: how much did you pay for that xz80
[18:42] <raidghost> Had to boot from floppy?
[18:42] <vlt> No floppies here.
[18:43] <vlt> We had our programs and data on cassette tape.
[18:43] <raidghost> sounds like amiga/commondore
[18:43] <mutante> you recycle some cassette tapes that had audio books for kids on them.. except they didnt have the term "audio book" yet
[18:44] <raidghost> So. Saved stuff on casette tapes (for music?)
[18:45] <raidghost> didnt know that was possible
[18:45] <mutante> raidghost: yes, the device to play/record was a "datasette"
[18:45] <raidghost> My first computer was a compaq 486 dx2 with 66Mhz and turbo button. And Hold on.
[18:46] <raidghost> 4MB of ram :P
[18:46] <mutante> https://www.google.com/search?q=datasette&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&source=iu&i
[18:46] <mutante> you know how a modem would make those sounds when it connected to the internet? dial-up ?
[18:46] <mutante> just imagine recording those on a tape :p
[18:47] <raidghost> piiiip dubabababababababab P
[18:47] <mutante> yea:)
[18:47] <raidghost> back in the good old days
[18:48] <TJ-> let's throttle the off-topic please
[18:48] <nemo> so. my friend followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent to setup his ubuntu (14.04 LTS) on a flash drive using usb-creator-gtk
[18:48] <raidghost> okey. as you wish ;)
[18:48] <nemo> he then enabled "persistent" in the grub boot flags
[18:48] <nemo> everything seemed fine. could save files to desktop, firefox profile was persisting.  he then ran updates to pick up fixes.  and on restart, got "filesystem is corrupt"
[18:49] <raidghost> TJ-: See you around later. my girlfriend just made some late dinner. t2ul
[18:49] <nemo> I was wondering if anyone here might have any ideas why that might be
[18:51] <TJ-> nemo: sounds like the USB device was removed before the cached file-system data was flushed to the device
[18:52] <nemo> hm
[18:52] <nemo> TJ-: but it was a reboot
[18:52] <nemo> that's ubuntu's job
[18:52] <nemo> but can test with a sync I guess
[18:52] <nemo> if so. could add explicit sync to shutdown scripts
[18:52] <TJ-> nemo: indeed, it should have completed a "sync" before shutdown
[18:52] <nemo> TJ-: other than that it should work right, even if kernel was changed?
[18:52] <nemo> hm
[18:52] <TJ-> nemo: yes; does an fsck have a chance of repairing it?
[18:52] <nemo> wonder if grub would have a problem w/ kernel changes
[18:53] <nemo> TJ-: can just fsck the union file?
[18:53] <TJ-> nemo: no, GRUB doesn't care, all it does is load files into memory and pass control to them
[18:53] <nemo> TJ-: was just wondering if it would be lacking the overlay
[18:53] <nemo> but ok
[18:53] <TJ-> nemo: fsck the underlying persistent file-system - boot without the persistent option on the command line so it's a regular Live session then run the fsck
[19:09] <virtuosoj> Keyboard settings question: In 16.04 Unity and also in Elementary, I could set my keyboard to U.S. International (AltGr Dead Keys) which allowed me to type easily in Spanish as well as English.  However in 17.10 Gnome I don't have this option.  Is there a way I can enable this?
[19:10] <kostkon> virtuosoj, it isn't listed?
[19:16] <z3u4r5dok_> Hi guys I have an issue trying to play videos... I get the following error Error loading player: No playable sources found
[19:17] <z3u4r5dok_> I have done the following: Enable DRM Playback in Preferences under Content
[19:18] <z3u4r5dok_> Install ffmpeg-libs and dependencies I believe I've done too
[19:18] <virtuosoj> kostkon, no it becomes English and Spanish
[19:20] <z3u4r5dok_> any ideas??
[19:22] <ZorroT> anyone here familiar with the intel compute stick ?
[19:22] <pikapika> Is it safe to perform a "normal" copy (ie cp, file manager, etc NOT dd) of /var, /bin, /etc, /usr, etc from a running Ubuntu system to an external drive?
[19:23] <ZorroT> to the point: i have a unit that is coming up to the grub menu, and once you hit return to select 'ubuntu', it boots normally -- but i'm not sure how to make grub boot to this option automatically without interaction?
[19:24] <DiecastMessiah> z3u4r5dok_: i think ya need to install ubuntu-extra or somehting i forget the name .. it has most of the nonfree things that you need to play back dvds and crap
[19:25] <z3u4r5dok_> How can I do that.... Sorry I am new
[19:26] <pikapika> Wait, now that I think, what I want is a tar. Ie tar -cvpf /ubuntu/path /externaldrive/xyz.tar
[19:26] <pikapika> Is it safe?
[19:26] <DiecastMessiah> one sec i'll look to see what the package is
[19:26] <pikapika> Or would it be better to dd from live mode?
[19:27] <z3u4r5dok_> I appreciatte it
[19:27] <MonsieurBon> Hi
[19:28] <DiecastMessiah> z3u4r5dok_: ok so termial .. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:29] <DiecastMessiah> it adds all the things you need to used for mp3s, videos and playback dvds
[19:29] <MonsieurBon> I'd like to build my own Router/Firewall/DNS Server/OpenVpn Gateway. I was looking to buy a Shuttle NS02A as it's not too expensive and the octa core with 16 GB RAM sound like a lot of power. Has anyone experience with this hardware and ubuntu server?
[19:30] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, on what websites? in which browser? firefox?
[19:31] <z3u4r5dok_> this is what I get
[19:31] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/fvDGz73z
[19:32] <z3u4r5dok_> Yes, firefox, Linux Academy
[19:33] <DiecastMessiah> ohhhhhh thats not ubuntu lol
[19:34] <z3u4r5dok_> Yes, my ubuntu version is 16.04 lts
[19:35] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, why are you logged in as root?
[19:35] <DiecastMessiah> oh ok. sorry than .. why root
[19:35] <z3u4r5dok_> yes
[19:35] <z3u4r5dok_> should I go back as a regular user??
[19:36] <DiecastMessiah> bad idea to login to root..
[19:36] <kostkon> !root | z3u4r5dok_
[19:36] <DiecastMessiah> yeah and anything that you need root for .. like installing things use sudo in fornt of the command you are doing
[19:36] <TJ-> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:37] <z3u4r5dok_> Thank you for the advice. I will go back
[19:37] <z3u4r5dok_> to my regular user
[19:37] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, open Software & Updates and enable the Multiverse repository
[19:37] <TJ-> z3u4r5dok_: you see how it says ^^^^^ "In component universe" ? You need to enable "Multiverse" if Software Sources GUI
[19:37] <TJ-> grrr s/universe/multiverse/
[19:38] <z3u4r5dok_> I'm a regular user again
[19:38] <z3u4r5dok_> let go to software tabs just a second please
[19:38] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, open dash, search for "software"
[19:39] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, open dash → click on the Ubuntu logo icon in the dock
[19:39] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:40] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: it's part of the multiverse repo which if you pasted in the sources.list I gave you earlier, you should have enabled
[19:40] <pikapika> Anyone?
[19:40] <z3u4r5dok_> which one I have 2 options
[19:40] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: huh?
[19:40] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:41] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, Software & Updates
[19:41] <z3u4r5dok_> community-maintained free and open source software (universe)
[19:41] <z3u4r5dok_> and the second options is
[19:42] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: I thought you copied the sources.list I gave you earlier?
[19:42] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: if you had done it correctly, you would have multiverse already enabled
[19:42] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, for the third time you need the Multiverse repo
[19:42] <leftyfb> kostkon: ^
[19:42] <z3u4r5dok_> Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (Multiverse)
[19:43]  * leftyfb sigh
[19:43] <kostkon> leftyfb, he didn't do it it seems
[19:43] <DiecastMessiah> checkmark both
[19:43] <leftyfb> kostkon: I'd like to confirm that
[19:43] <leftyfb> kostkon: without the silly GUI
[19:43] <z3u4r5dok_> I did, believe me I did
[19:43] <kostkon> leftyfb, yeah go ahead
[19:43] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[19:44] <guardian> hello, I'm installing ubuntu for the first time. What does it change to select "minimal installation" in the 18.04 installer?
[19:45] <leftyfb> guardian: 18.04 is not released yet and not recommended to install for a first time user
[19:45] <leftyfb> guardian: if you insist on installing 18.04, please go to #ubuntu+1 for support
[19:46] <guardian> ok fair enough
[19:47] <DiecastMessiah> guardian: 16.04 would be better for ya
[19:48] <DiecastMessiah> but don;t fall in love with unity desktop to much.. it will be going in the next version ..
[19:48]  * DiecastMessiah cries a little tear
[19:48] <guardian> yeah hence trying 18.04
[19:48] <OerHeks> minimal would do -no-install-recommends, but a basic set of tools you need to continueinstallation
[19:48] <dax> the minimal option in 18.04 doesn't install some desktop packages (e.g. libreoffice) to reduce disk usage
[19:49] <dax> if you're installing from scratch currently, i'd personally go with 17.10 and upgrade to 18.04 and then stick with LTS from then on
[19:49] <DiecastMessiah> for testing you could use 17.10 i don;t think unity is there
[19:49] <dax> 17.10 doesn't use Unity either, so should be an easier transition to 18.04 than 16.04
[19:49] <jdr> I think 18.04 is going to have a "light" version?
[19:49] <leftyfb> I personally wouldn't recommend 17.10.
[19:49] <ikonia> what's a light version ?
[19:50] <dax> (17.10 defaults to wayland whereas 18.04 doesn't, but that's easy to turn off if desired)
[19:50] <OerHeks> i hope gparted ans synaptic gets fixed for wayland
[19:50] <z3u4r5dok_>           this is what I get now : https://pastebin.com/icMXaniA
[19:51] <z3u4r5dok_> Honestly guys you know so much and I don't know anyhting
[19:51] <z3u4r5dok_> sorry for the bother
[19:51] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: can you just "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and copy and paste it on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ?
[19:51] <z3u4r5dok_> sure
[19:51] <OerHeks> !info pastebinit
[19:53] <leftyfb> OerHeks: they cannot install pastebinit at the moment. We're trying to determine what repo's are enabled
[19:54] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/uqVqrnNj
[19:54] <OerHeks> leftyfb, yes i see, i thought it was in universe..
[19:54] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:55] <ioria> it's commented
[19:55] <ioria> main,  i mean
[19:55] <lord4163> hello
[19:55] <leftyfb> damnit, just noticed that
[19:55] <ioria> z3u4r5dok_, how that happened ?
[19:55] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: you'll need to remove those #'s at the top of /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:55] <guardian> thanks for the info
[19:55] <lord4163> I have a LAMP server with postfix set up, which works, but it whenever I sent an email using the PHP mail function it sends it using an old domain name.
[19:56] <leftyfb> ioria: pasting from my pastebin
[19:56] <lord4163> Is there any way to update this?
[19:56] <ioria> oh
[19:56] <leftyfb> lord4163: postfix configs
[19:56] <leftyfb> lord4163: or whatever php script you're using
[19:56] <lord4163> leftyfb: Postfix does its job tho
[19:56] <leftyfb> lord4163: yup, and it could still have configs for an old domain
[19:57] <lord4163> leftyfb: if I use the unix mail command it sends from the right domain
[19:57] <leftyfb> lord4163: ok, then the php script you're using
[19:57] <lord4163> leftyfb: Only Apache/PHP gets it wrong
[19:57] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:57] <z3u4r5dok_> It is doing something
[19:58] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: what is doing something?
[20:00] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: ?
[20:03] <z3u4r5dok_> I am working on it
[20:04] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, is it still fetching and installing the packages?
[20:04] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/DKatvUVu
[20:04] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: you are working on what? I told you to use sudo to edit your sources.list
[20:05] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: ok, great, save that, then run : sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:05] <z3u4r5dok_> I did, didn't i??
[20:05] <kostkon> oh you haven't reached that step yet
[20:06] <nemo> TJ-: but but. how could the non-overlay get corrupted?  it should never ever be modified
[20:06] <nemo> anyway. guess I can fsck them both. why not
[20:07] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/yKuvna37
[20:08] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: good, you're done
[20:08] <z3u4r5dok_> what do I do now??
[20:08] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: profit?
[20:08] <kostkon> what's that trusty media PPA about
[20:09] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: ubuntu-restricted-extras is installed
[20:09] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: I would suggest whatever PPA's you have in there for trusty you either remove or update to the xenial version where applicable
[20:10] <z3u4r5dok_> I'm sorry I don't understand this PPA's you have in there for trusty you either remove or update to the xenial version where applicable
[20:11] <ioria> z3u4r5dok_, that ppa is available only for trusty, you are on xenial (i suppose)
[20:12] <leftyfb> ok, someone else will have to help you with that. It's taken us 5 hours to get to this point
[20:12] <leftyfb> ioria: they don't understand any of this
[20:12] <ioria> ok :þ
[20:13] <DiecastMessiah> he or she is very new,, i don;t know why they just let him do some of the stuff in the gui
[20:13] <leftyfb> DiecastMessiah: because it was a bit of a mess to begin with and the GUI will not help with any of that
[20:13] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/XJ4T1y9d
[20:13] <ioria> it's the same
[20:14] <z3u4r5dok_> you are right guys
[20:14] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, that ppa is about media and you are having media/codec problems. is this a coincidence?
[20:14] <leftyfb> ioria: to clean this up? https://pastebin.com/dEwpdMCd
[20:14] <z3u4r5dok_> I'd really appreciatte all of your help
[20:14] <DiecastMessiah> yes but he could have used software and updates easly and than told him the commands... let not try to discorage him too much
[20:15] <ioria> wow
[20:15] <leftyfb> ioria: yeah
[20:15] <leftyfb> ioria: the GUI aint fixing that
[20:15] <ioria> looks lie salem in 1691
[20:15] <ioria> like
[20:16] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: try to play your media
[20:17] <ioria> z3u4r5dok_, and what 's your kernel ? uname -r
[20:17] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, you'll probably have to get rid of that PPA with ppa-purge
[20:18] <leftyfb> kostkon: I would say we leave the cleanup till after the original issue (playing media) is resolved
[20:19] <leftyfb> kostkon: during that process though, we should look at the actual repo and determine why it was added and if it's still needed/wanted and if there's an upgrade/alternative .... could be a small learning experience
[20:19] <z3u4r5dok_> You guys are awesome now everything it's working including you tube
[20:19] <z3u4r5dok_> I have no words to say thank you...
[20:19] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: ok, please hold on
[20:20] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: you should really let people here help you clean up your repo's
[20:20] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: you have some that are outdated and will only cause confusion for you down the road
[20:20] <z3u4r5dok_> Thank you for you patience and support
[20:20] <z3u4r5dok_> sure
[20:20] <z3u4r5dok_> How can we do that??
[20:21] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d # to get a list of the repo's you've added
[20:22] <ioria> if we're lucky , given the wrong ppa,  nothing should have been installed from that there ...
[20:22] <OerHeks> ioria, +1
[20:22] <OerHeks> never had any packages for his version
[20:22] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/HTKsmKuy
[20:22] <ioria> OerHeks, i don't use ppa, so i don't really know
[20:22] <leftyfb> OerHeks: we don't know 100% if this machine wasn't upgraded from trusty
[20:23] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: that isn't what I asked you to paste
[20:24] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/PnccVggE
[20:25] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mc3man-ubuntu-trusty-media-xenial.list
[20:25] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: actually, nevermind that ....
[20:25] <OerHeks> i guess both ppa's are useless
[20:25] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mc3man-ubuntu-trusty-media-xenial*
[20:26] <leftyfb> OerHeks: gwendal-lebihan-dev-ubuntu-hexchat-stable-xenial has hexchat 2.12
[20:26] <tgm4883> OerHeks: mc3man didn't have trusty packages?
[20:27] <leftyfb> OerHeks: xenial only has 2.10
[20:27] <leftyfb> tgm4883: that repo was titled "Ubuntu Multimedia for Trusty"
[20:27] <tgm4883> leftyfb: yea, and it has trusty packages
[20:27] <ioria> tgm4883, he's on xenial (i suppose) welcome back, btw
[20:27] <OerHeks> tgm4883, no xenial package, so cruft from trusty will be uninstalled i guess
[20:28] <tgm4883> It only gets xenial packages if the xenial package version is newer
[20:28] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: once you remove the mc3man packages, you're good to go
[20:28] <tgm4883> granted I haven't been keeping up with what's going on here, just wanted to step in and say it's entirely possible that packages in a trusty repo were installed on a xenial system
[20:29] <leftyfb> er, repo I mean, not packages
[20:29] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/v5LXyXJy
[20:29] <leftyfb> z3u4r5dok_: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mc3man-ubuntu-trusty-media-xenial.list*
[20:30] <leftyfb> hm, that should work
[20:32] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/zdxXvacz
[20:32] <tgm4883> hmm, sad. We don't have an equivelent to 'yum list installed'?
[20:32] <TJ-> tgm4883: "apt list --installed"
[20:33] <tgm4883> TJ-: yea I was looking at that trying to decode the output
[20:35] <tgm4883> TJ-: I don't suppose you can point me at documentation for what the columns are in that list
[20:36] <z3u4r5dok_> Is that wrong??
[20:36] <OerHeks> so those ppa lines are already removed.
[20:37] <Bashing-om> z3u4r5dok_: ^^ pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[20:37] <willc> is there an easy way to reinstall ubuntu on a machine? Can I run like apt-get reinstall ubuntu? :P
[20:37] <leftyfb> willc: no
[20:38] <wafflejock> willc probably best off just installing from the original media again
[20:38] <willc> shucks
[20:38] <willc> lol
[20:38] <willc> I tried :)
[20:38] <TJ-> tgm4883: gcc/xenial,now 4:5.3.1-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed] package/release[,now] version arch [status]
[20:38] <wafflejock> willc you can reinstall lots of the parts but not worth it if you need to really wipe it out
[20:38] <willc> Yea my liveboot cd is at home
[20:38] <willc> running 16.04 on a raspberrypi and trying to get virtualenv+opencv running and it feels like I made a mess and just wanted a fresh start
[20:39] <tgm4883> TJ-: xul-ext-ubufox/artful-updates,artful-updates,artful-security,artful-security,now 3.4-0ubuntu1.17.10.1 all [installed]
[20:39] <willc> but I'll deal with my mess
[20:39] <tgm4883> TJ-: that doesn't fit what you said
[20:39] <MonsieurBon> exit
[20:39] <tgm4883> TJ-: specifically, there's 4 things listed for the repo
[20:39] <z3u4r5dok_> https://pastebin.com/WBz0f5N4
[20:40] <TJ-> tgm4883: package/[release list][,now] version arch [status]
[20:40] <TJ-> tgm4883: because the package is available from different release pockets
[20:41] <tgm4883> TJ-: yea that's what I figured. However, it doesn't show which repo/pocket that the currently installed version is from
[20:41] <TJ-> tgm4883: the repeats may be because you've got duplicated entries in your apt sources from different archive servers
[20:41] <Rick13> Hii
[20:41] <Rick13> Hola
[20:42] <TJ-> tgm4883: them all! upgraded package started in artful-security (for speed) and also goes into artful-updates (but may be delayed getting to mirrors)
[20:42] <TJ-> tgm4883: try "apt-cache policy xul-ext-ubufox"
[20:42] <Bashing-om> z3u4r5dok_: Uh huh, gone as OerHeks suspected . no mc3man PPA present now .
[20:43] <z3u4r5dok_> what it does mean??
[20:43] <tgm4883> TJ-: yea I know how to do it by package, I was trying to get the information system wide
[20:43] <tgm4883> TJ-: for comparision, this is what I can get from yum "python2-pip.noarch                  8.1.2-5.el7                        @epel" which shows me it's installed from epel
[20:44] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: is + in tail the same as -A1 ?
[20:44] <nacc> tgm4883: there are some scripts out there that take the --installed output and the provide the policy output, parsed for each ofthem
[20:44] <tgm4883> TJ-: which makes it super easy to see all packages installed from there.
[20:44] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: sorry, +1
[20:44] <nacc> tgm4883: seems like it would be nic eot integrate that into apt-get itself
[20:44] <Bashing-om> z3u4r5dok_: Your " sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mc3man- " . Can not remove what does not excist :)
[20:44] <tgm4883> nacc: I agree, that should get added to the apt list output
[20:44] <Bashing-om> exist*
[20:44] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: actually, no, i'm thinking of grep. What's the +1 all about in your tail?
[20:45] <tgm4883> nacc: TJ- I was trying to find a command that they could run to see if any packages were installed from that ppa
[20:45] <DomD5> Hey, I was wondering if anyone here could help me out, I've been trying to find the source of the debian-installer package that is installed on ubuntu installation iso's, specifically the one executable found in the /sbin/ of the initrd.gz filesystem, every source I've found is either just docs or something used to build a debian installation iso, I would appreciate anyone's help
[20:45] <f0f0f0> im getting random freezing on my machine
[20:45] <f0f0f0> it gets to the point have to cold boot
[20:46] <f0f0f0> it happens 3+ times a day
[20:46] <f0f0f0> don't even know where to start trouble shooting
[20:46] <f0f0f0> any suggestions?
[20:46] <z3u4r5dok_> So Do I need that?? Do I need to install it or my system is wrong??
[20:46] <f0f0f0> have done a memory check
[20:46] <f0f0f0> and memory is fine
[20:47] <f0f0f0> dont have the problem on my windows boot
[20:47] <kostkon> !reisub | f0f0f0, for next time
[20:47] <f0f0f0> dual boot win/ubuntu
[20:47] <nacc> tgm4883: i think there is a way to filter by sources
[20:48] <Lehthanis2> hey all...I'm running lubuntu, just upgraded to 17.10 and swapped from nvidia to radeon (7750) and video is runnign super slow...how do I make the radeon driver act right?
[20:48] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: That +1 is how many lines 'n' is to return .
 thanks for the info, that is extremely helpful!
[20:51] <f0f0f0> is there a log file or some place I can find what caused the issue?
[20:51] <z3u4r5dok_> So do I need to worry for anything else?? Do I still need clean up my repo's??
[20:51] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: oooooo ,that's useful
[20:51] <ioc_> DomD5, idk but dpkg -S filename could help
[20:52] <leftyfb> I really gotta spend more time perusing man pages
[20:52] <kostkon> f0f0f0, a plethora of logs in /var/log
[20:53] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: Uh huh on useful // terminal can get amazing like that :P
[20:53] <leftyfb> TJ-: blew my mind the other day with dmesg -w
[20:54] <ioc_> f0f0f0, journalctl --list-boots     then search the line for the corresponding session, then journalctl --boot abcd      replacing abcd with the calue in 2nd column in that line
[20:54] <ioc_> or any of the /var/log/syslog's
[20:54] <Lehthanis> trying again now that I'm logge din verified:
[20:54] <Lehthanis> hey all...I'm running lubuntu, just upgraded to 17.10 and swapped from nvidia to radeon (7750) and video is runnign super slow...how do I make the radeon driver act right?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: Same - I too  made note .
[20:55] <Lehthanis> I believe the radeo driver is built in, but It's not detecting any of my other displays
[20:55] <Lehthanis> is there a config app?
[20:55] <Lehthanis> I uninstalled the nvicia drivers
[20:56] <Lehthanis> I can't type on this machine, lol
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Lehthanis: You did purge the old nvidia driver prior to installing the AMD card ?
[20:57] <Lehthanis> additional drivers doesn't detect anything
[20:57] <Lehthanis> I didn't purge, no...whats the command to purge?  I just uninstalled
[20:57] <dlam> any opinions on best GUI irc client on ubuntu? :D   (i currently use emacs  x__x)
[20:57] <Lehthanis> dlam: irssi
[20:57] <kostkon> dlam, sudo snap install hexchat
[20:57] <z3u4r5dok_> ok guys let me ask you something can I reboot my system?? or do we need to do something else before I tried to do it....????
[20:58] <dlam> thx thx thx
[21:00] <OerHeks> driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[21:00] <Bashing-om> Lehthanis: See what ' sudo apt purge nvida* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' produces .
[21:00] <TJ-> leftyfb: if you like -w how about "dmesg -Hl err,warn"
[21:00] <leftyfb> man  ... now I gotta go read the man page
[21:01] <Lehthanis> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[21:01] <Lehthanis> I just ran that
[21:01] <leftyfb> oh, that's no that complicated
[21:01] <TJ-> OerHeks: you can replace all that with "lspci -nnk -d::300"
[21:01] <Lehthanis> there was a LOT to purge
[21:01] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: Now ain't that ^just wonderful .
[21:01] <leftyfb> TJ-: I noticed -w was also doing -H I think by default
[21:01] <Lehthanis> Bashing-om: should I still remove the xorg.conf?
[21:01] <TJ-> leftyfb: yes ... being able to limit to the log_level is very useful though, as is limiting to facilty or kernel-only
[21:02] <kostkon> Lehthanis, that sounds... encouraging
[21:02] <TJ-> OerHeks: 0300 is the PCI class for a VGA compatible controller
[21:02] <z3u4r5dok_> I guess I will do that. Thank you all for everything....
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Lehthanis: If it should happen to exist .. yes remove it as it applies to the old nvidia stuff .
[21:03] <Lehthanis> it doesn't...should I just reboot now that I've purged that stuff
[21:03] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, we did nothing that would endanger your system's stability
[21:03] <OerHeks> TJ-, i knew there were short routes, i stored this version as one can see what is about to happen
[21:04] <kostkon> z3u4r5dok_, you're safe to reboot (98% sure)
[21:04] <Lehthanis> I'm gonna reboot too...will be back if it doesn't help, lol
[21:04] <OerHeks> * and your comment is stored too
[21:05] <winter> hi
[21:05] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: TJ-: I don't always check, but I do follow @commandlinefu ... they've got some doozies on there on occasion
[21:06] <TJ-> leftyfb: due to dealing with low-level recovery I've got into the habit of figuring out how to use shell/awk/grep and sysfs to reproduce output of commands like lspci lsusb and lshw :S
[21:07] <leftyfb> TJ-: I've had to do that with usb lately. The past 6 months or so troubleshooting usb camera's killing usb ports till it got rebooted
[21:07] <HairToday> I don't have bluetooth on this laptop, Yet blueman starts up and takes up a large part of my ram each time.  How can I uninstall all things bluetooth?
[21:08] <leftyfb> TJ-: got a nice little script to reset the whole usb bus though which re-enumerates all the devices plugged in. That's handy
[21:09] <TJ-> HairToday: blueman shouldn't auto-start unless you've got it configured to do so as an autostart in the user GUI session
[21:09] <TJ-> leftyfb: Yes, it's a wonderful thing is sysfs
[21:09] <Lehthanis> ok, so nvidia is all removed, but performance is still horrible
[21:10] <HairToday> TJ-, Yeah, nope, bluetooth is turned off in my settings.  Using 16.04 BTW -- will upgrade to 18.04 in a few days
[21:10] <TJ-> HairToday: I'd stick with 16.04 for a while longer if you use the system for something useful :)
[21:11] <jdr> rfkill list HairToday
[21:11] <HairToday> TJ-, oh?  well, I didn't plan to ON april fools day :OP  I was going to wait a month or so
[21:11] <Bashing-om> Lehthanis: What release ? Such that is Xorg a factor ?
[21:11] <TJ-> HairToday: there's an option in some DEs to save the session at log-out - maybe that was set once and blueman is set to autostart, but then you disabled the setting and so it never gets removed from the list?
[21:11] <Lehthanis> Lubuntu 17.10
[21:12] <Lehthanis> at this point I think I'm just unconfigured or unoptimized
[21:12] <TJ-> HairToday: try something like "grep -rn blueman $HOME/.config $HOME/.gconf $HOME/.local"
[21:12] <HairToday> TJ-, I'm not too sure.  Don't know where my autostart list is.... using a gnome callback on 16.04
[21:12] <Lehthanis> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]
[21:12] <Lehthanis> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family (rev 30)
[21:13] <HairToday> TJ-, THANK YOU, i'll look into this, already some hits.
[21:16] <sere_> is it possible to install lvm with btrfs from a usb 16.04 persistant /live
[21:16] <Lehthanis> meh, I gotta go home for the day, I'll pick this back up tomorrow.
[21:16] <Lehthanis> thanks
[21:19] <TJ-> sere_: you mean via terminal? so it's installed in the persistent file system?
[21:23] <sere_> TJ- no im actaully running off a live / persistnt 16.04 usb trying to install to a lvm btrfs sdd slam drive... im pretty sure that sd card is bad that i was using the other day..so i im trying this
[21:24] <sere_> TJ- i can see it with the installer but there is no way to add the lvm partition when i boot to a miminal console /text install it doesnt show up or i could do it thrugh that
[21:26] <TJ-> sere_: hmmm, I'm so used to installing manually now I'm not sure what you should have available, but for a Live session "Try Ubuntu" GUI with a terminal you cn install "lvm2" and then use "pvcreate / vgcreate / lvcreate" from a terminal
[21:29] <sere_> TJ-  ok perfect i can manage that.. thank you  :)
[21:30] <gabnerd> hey
[21:31] <z3u4r5dok> I just came back to say thank you, everything still works after the reboot.... I will now do a snapshot just in case.... Thank all of you...
[21:41] <virtuosoj> Keyboard settings question: In 16.04 Unity and also in Elementary, I could set my keyboard to U.S. International (AltGr Dead Keys) which allowed me to type easily in Spanish as well as English.  However in 17.10 Gnome I don't have this option.  Is there a way I can enable this???
[21:46] <tyler-baker> anyone having issues rebuilding dkms modules with retpoline?
[21:46] <tyler-baker> https://hastebin.com/etenidudug.md
[21:47] <tyler-baker> trying to rebuild fglrx on 16.04 (which was working until latest kernel update)
[21:47] <tyler-baker> do I need to pass a flag to dkms?
[22:15] <djgrapes> lit
[22:19] <hans-peter> hall
[22:42] <xMopx> Hi, I have a vm that periodically fails to boot up with an error about my root device, /dev/mapper/<name>, not being found
[22:42] <xMopx> I get an (initramfs) prompt that if I simply exit from using ctrl-D, the boot sequence completes normally
[22:42] <ikonia> you need to know the error
[22:42] <xMopx> the problem seems to be that lvm doesn't assemble it's array quickly enough
[22:43] <ikonia> I doubt that
[22:43] <xMopx> ikonia: it's Alert! <device> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[22:43] <ikonia> I suspect it's more likley the virtual disk under lvm control isn't available
[22:44] <ikonia> how many pv's are in the vg ?
[22:44] <xMopx> one ikonia
[22:44] <ikonia> so there is nothing to assemble
[22:44] <xMopx> boot continues normally if I exit the initramfs prompt, though. So the disk is certainly available
[22:44] <ikonia> it sounds like the disk device isn't being made available to the vm quick enough
[22:45] <xMopx> ikonia: the root lvm and /boot/ partition are the same virtual device, so I think we'd see other errors if it wasn't available
[22:45] <Iam1> will someone do me a favor and tell me if I diss and comeback, I want to check if my laptop suspends when I close the lid:)
[22:45] <ikonia> xMopx: so thats interesting,
[22:46] <Iam1> ???
[22:46] <Iam1> maybe I should have asked someone who cares :P
[22:46] <ikonia> probably
[22:47] <kostkon> Iam1, check your logs as well
[22:47] <Iam1> apparently not judging by the lack of reaction, ooh thanks kostkon I do appreciate that
[22:48] <Iam1> do you mean like syslog?
[22:48] <kostkon> Iam1, yep
[22:48] <Iam1> cheers
[22:50] <Iam1> kostkon, now it's worth my while reading the howto on making it suspend when I close it :)
[22:54] <NikitaSadkov> https://github.com/saniv/free-game-art/blob/master/foss-copyright-infringement-records.md
[22:56] <ikonia> NikitaSadkov: please don't spam
[23:03] <tournesol> list
[23:08] <Iam1> does anyone know a way to reverse the order of syslog?
[23:08] <Iam1> seems a pain to have to scroll to whats happening now
[23:09] <ikonia> what ?
[23:09] <ikonia> just tail it
[23:09] <NikitaSadkov> man tail
[23:09] <Iam1> ohh cool, didn't think of using that
[23:09] <Iam1> I was using the graphical one
[23:10] <ee> hello all
[23:11] <Iam1> what's the command to see syslog from the command line?
[23:11] <ikonia> tail
[23:11] <ikonia> as you've just been told
[23:12] <dax> specifically, sudo tail /var/log/syslog
[23:12] <ee> i have some problem in configuration of my vncserver insite of ubuntu 16.04. When i connect to server usign the vnc client i can't see the menu horzontal. Can you help me to resolve this problem?
[23:12] <Iam1> I get nothing when I type "tail" or "syslog"
[23:12] <dax> (I think that's the right filename, I'm not on Ubuntu right now)
[23:12] <Iam1> I was presuming you piped it to tail
[23:12] <ikonia> if you can't use the basic commands you're not going to be able to make sense of the syslog
[23:13] <ikonia> dax: correct
[23:13] <dax> and if you want to see everything instead of just recent stuff, sudo less /var/log/syslog and then type G (capital G) to go to the bottom/recent stuff
[23:13] <Iam1> ok thanks will try that
[23:14] <ee> ikonia: also do you have some solution for my problem ;-)
[23:14] <ikonia> ee: not even read it
[23:14] <Iam1> tail just locks up the terminal
[23:15] <ee> ikonia: ok
[23:15] <spotter> does anyone understand how start-stop-daemon is supposed to work?
[23:15] <spotter> trying to have it leverage it to control some process life cycle and it doesn't work as I expect
[23:15] <Iam1> cheers ikonia that works nicely
[23:17] <Iam1> I find the man pages are a bit difficult to read atm
[23:18] <Iam1> but I'm a fast learner :)
[23:18] <Iam1> got tail to work for me now
[23:20] <Iam1> I wasn't aware before that syslog was a file, I thought it was a program
[23:21] <ee> some one had never my problem?
[23:22] <Javabean> !patience
[23:31] <Iam1> any opinions on running apt update daily?
[23:33] <dax> Should be fine. If you're on desktop, there's an option somewhere to configure update frequency. If on server, sudo apt install unattended-upgrades; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades
[23:34] <dax> (or you can run it manually instead if you want, obviously)
[23:34] <Iam1> I managed to mess up nextcloud running it, thats the only problem I've had so far
[23:35] <Christian-M-NY> Anyone know anything about ULauncher or Alfred?
[23:35] <Iam1> Given up on nextcloud since :)
[23:37] <Iam1> I'm not sure if nextcloud let me down because I don't have a static IP address, could that be an issue?
[23:37] <Christian-M-NY> IT is no longer showing results
[23:37] <kalixus> :))
[23:39] <kalixus> Shall we
[23:41] <Christian-M-NY> anyone?
[23:42] <Javabean> !patience
[23:46] <Christian-M-NY> thanks
[23:46] <Christian-M-NY> ok