[00:00] Ninja85a was added by: Ninja85a [00:01] hey guys [00:02] has anyone tried ubuntu touch on the moto G3 osprey? [00:03] @Ninja85a, is it supported [00:03] I've looked and no it isnt [00:03] Unfortunately, that means that it will not work [00:03] :( [00:04] dammit [00:04] what makes a device more likely to be supported? [00:04] or is it just luck [00:04] Which is official device for ut [00:05] https://ubports.com/devices/ready-to-use-devices [00:05] @Strangerer, Supported devices are still in the group description [00:05] did not know that! : … Supported Devices: https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch [00:06] @Ninja85a, A device must specifically be ported [00:06] The project for porting Ubuntu Touch, Plasma Mobile, and other OSs is halium.org [00:06] I know that but is there anyway of getting any more devices added? [00:07] And our porting information is https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html [00:07] Whats the next update for UT [00:09] what ubuntu version is UT based on? [00:09] I'm guessing the latest LTS [00:10] Ubuntu touch (ut) [00:12] @Ninja85a, 15.04 now, we're working on moving to 16.04 [00:12] ah kk [00:13] Y so delay [00:14] Because we inherited the OS at 15.04 and 16.04 is the last supported Ubuntu version with Upstart [00:14] Which we need to not deprecate all of the old devices right now [00:16] When will this ota arrive, any approximate date? [00:16] There isn't one, we don't have enough of a stable and informed contributor base who is able to commit to a date. [00:26] I have another dumb question [00:27] UTouch will recognize 2 SIM cards right? [00:27] Yes [00:28] @nanu_c Thank you ^^ [00:31] I use this on a dayly basis :) [00:32] nice nice ^^ [00:34] @Strangerer, If you build it, they will come... [00:34] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6EmIqHl6.mp4 [00:35] Hi bruce [01:31] Im trying to install UBPorts and this error appears [01:31] cant copy it [01:31] lmao [01:32] has to do with pushing the files [02:31] @Squish :3, Can you take a picture/screenshot of it? [03:03] I'm unable to find utouch ROM for Mi MAX [03:04] @dkvish, UT isn't a ROM. It's a full mobile OS that replaces Android. [03:05] Yes. But how to install that?? [03:05] @dkvish, only mi4 now，maybe [03:06] Is there any list of supported devices?? [03:06] @dkvish, In the group description.. [03:07] @dkvish, Ubuntu Touch is only available for the Fairphone 2, the OnePlus One, the Nexus 5, the Meizu Pro5, the Moto G2, and the BQ Aquaris M10 off the top of my head [03:09] @dkvish, You can always try to port it to your device though [03:56] payrrobot was added by: payrrobot [07:18] @Cesar_Herrera, awesome [07:19] Lao was added by: Lao [07:50] @payrrobot, Hi Adam and Lao welcome , Pls start here https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [07:54] Hey, I'm looking into porting my device to ubports [07:55] join #halium on IRC [07:55] Ok, thanks [07:56] Would that be compatible with a mainline kernel? [07:56] no [07:56] android devices aren't mainlined [07:56] They are [07:56] some parts sometimes are, yes [07:57] Ive helped mainlined my device [07:57] Mainline [07:57] have you mainlined all of the binary drivers? [07:57] if so, then i will give you huge respect for that [07:57] And has most stuff working (Inc freedreno) [07:58] Camera obviously doesn't work [07:58] halium runs lineage in a LXC container [07:58] and communicates with it via libhybris [07:58] join it anyways, would be nice to hear other member's opinions [07:59] i am so far really pessimistic and this looks more like a pmOS case [07:59] I already have pmos [07:59] Just wanted to try ubports as it is more complete [08:00] @dohbee has anyone done something like that in the past? [08:00] What device is it? [08:01] Xperia Z2 tablet [08:01] Msm8974 [08:02] Oh, nice to see Sony devices getting some love. [08:03] Should be pretty simple to do for z2 non tablet aswell [08:03] fujinnec was added by: fujinnec [08:04] @fujinnec, Hello Ciro, welcome here some starting point for You https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [08:12] Do you have freedreno enabled in your nesa? [08:12] Mesa [08:17] anyway to enable the side-stage on a phone? I though changing the grid_unit will do it but apparently not, only desktop mode switch is enabled when the grid unit is smaller [08:28] @Javacookies, IIRC You need to add an entry in /etc/ubuntu/devices.conf for your device and set `Category` to desktop or tablet to enable side stage … ```[hammerhead] … Category=tablet``` [08:30] If you set it to desktop the shell will start in windowed mode [08:34] Or would it be better if I used the old android kernel? [08:39] @DanChapman, ooohhh okay...I think the side-stage would still be useful in some big phones...doesn't really have to be a tablet [08:39] thanks anyway :) [08:43] Have any OEMs shown any interest in UBports yet? Have any of them made any overtures at all? [09:00] How can I build a rootfs [09:00] As I need to add in WiFi config files and freedreno firmware [12:25] @vanyasem, No [12:26] @opendata, You need to build halium for your device [12:26] Hi anybody having problems with nexus 5. Not being able to take video i am on devl [12:31] Dohbee how? [12:31] Since I'm using mainline kernel android drivers don't work [12:31] Stock android drivers anyway [12:37] And why as halium is just a compatibility layer for android drivers [12:37] Which we don't use [12:39] @prpleXist, Yes.. And no. Dis you try front and back cams? Try front cam. Oddly this action made both work for me! [13:39] On my BQ E 4.5 with UBports OTA-3, my main problem is that, once I accept a phone call, the LCD goes blank until the caller hangs up, I cannot get to the screen via touchpad or buttons inbetween. This is the case since Ubuntu Touch OTA-13. It works fine with Android. Is anyone else experiencing this? [14:00] @opendata, The ubuntu phone builds are pretty heavily dependent on going through the Android HAL to talk to hardware. There's currently no way to build the stack in a way that works reasonably well both with hybris and without, afaik [14:07] I am just looking at the ubports site and am missing the legacy devices overview. Will it return? [14:09] @Ernst Vaarties, http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices#/ [14:10] but yeah, the navigation there is really circular and confusing [14:12] CNpigCA was added by: CNpigCA [14:26] Ah, maybe the ubports page should link or redirect to that domain. [14:46] Hi! I installed the ubports 16.04on my bq M10 ubuntu tablet. After the todays update the wifi stoped working. Does not show any wifi signal [14:51] Before,the wifi was working very well till now... [14:53] have you tried rebooting? sometimes that happens on my nexus 5 even in 15.04 [14:58] Tried rebooting several times, switched of and on the flight mode, but noting changed [15:03] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/rpCDbY0J.png [15:08] So I got my halium-boot to give me ssh again, logged in, lxc didn't start, so I try starting it, it kicks me out and won't let me back in and never does anything on the devices screen [15:12] @Ernst Vaarties, i'm pretty sure it does. if you go to the "get ut" page, and scroll to the bottom, there's a "more devices" with a "for developers" link when you hover over the square. that link goes to the URL i pasted [15:12] but getting there was a bit confusing [15:17] Ah. I see it now. Indeed confusing. I expected to see all devices when clicking on 'other devices' on http://www.ubports.com/devices/ready-to-use-devices . [15:19] yeah, and the "devices" link where it says "see if your device is compatible" at the top, just goes back to the "core" devices page [15:19] so you end up in circles [15:22] Yup. They really don'don't want you getting other devices 🤔 [15:51] @Alexander, This happened to me before on my n4 i recall then some update fixed it.... Sounds really familiar. [15:54] @wayneoutthere, That's usually how bugs get fixed. ;) [16:22] Does anyone know, how to run commands inside clickable? [16:22] there's a field in the manifest [16:22] hang on [16:22] http://clickable.bhdouglass.com/en/latest/clickable-json.html [16:22] scripts [16:22] that can basically do anything [16:23] Thank you, I'll try... === Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er === doniks_ is now known as doniks [16:26] @wayneoutthere, That's the only bug that prevents me to use the phone on a daily basis. [16:32] @neothethird, Hm, doesn't work. I'm currently trying to fix that f***ing libsmbclient problem with python2.7-minimal in xenial docker chroot also known from vivid. [16:36] Anyone know, where the clickable containers are located? [16:46] After the last ubports 1604 update my bq m10 tablet wifi stop working. I fixed it reseting the system to default. Lost all data but fixed it [17:09] adikri was added by: adikri [17:20] @Alexander, does anyone else have this bug on your same device? Check to see if a bug is filed. Otherwise, I tend to think your version might be out of date. that also happened to me once. I was wondering why so many bugs but I was running wrong/old version. [17:21] I reinstalled yesterday, it's on OTA-3. I filed a bug some time ago. [17:26] @nfsprodriver, What problem? [17:29] @adikri, Hi Aditya, you can start here https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [17:55] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/MH56hLNS.null [18:00] Booting FairPhone [18:03] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d9cHVMhhVG/ [18:03] Something tells me that you missed a remaining possible problem. :P [18:04] But that is quite an interesting error... [18:07] [Edit] Booting Fairphone [18:08] @UniversalSuperBox, is the qtquick controls 2 lib not installed on your device? [18:22] @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks for testing, I think it's only one package missing in the click. Because the suru style is not yet built by the ci, it tries to use Material which is not included [18:24] It's a broken symlink ... interesting [18:25] I probably need to move another library around to be in LD_LIBRARY_PATH [18:27] SImply some package missing [18:27] Next build is on the way [18:27] @JBBgameich, Or set QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE to Suru maybe? [18:27] There is no suru QtQuickControls 2 Style installed yet [18:28] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/1RfQsoIH.null [18:30] oh ok [18:31] The problem was one missing package: libqt5quickcontrols2-5 [18:31] I only included the QML module [18:32] My brother just asked me, do we have a Waze client? [18:33] @TartanSpartan, is it usable via web? [18:35] @Mark, Well yes and no. We are of course in talks with BQ, its the natural choice since they have already produced for Canonical. We have an informal exchange of information currently and a few assertions. Cannot say more at the moment, until the UBports foundation is legally set up we canß make any agreements [18:35] i guess not, so no you can't use waze on ubuntu without anbox [18:35] But be sure that we have our relation management setting up this and that ;) [18:35] also waze is super creepy [18:36] @Mark, [Edit] Well yes and no. We are of course in talks with BQ, its the natural choice since they have already produced for Canonical. We have an informal exchange of information currently and a few assertions. Cannot say more at the moment, until the UBports foundation is legally set up we cant make any agreements [18:36] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/zr9hMoxD.png [18:36] @Flohack, nice [18:36] :) thanks for that [18:36] @JBBgameich, congratulations! It's really tiny. :) [18:36] @UniversalSuperBox, Nice, something starts at least :) [18:37] an open and anonymized waze-like thing built around OSM could be pretty sweet though [18:37] Super creepy? [18:37] That Suru style is looking fine [18:37] why are those buttons and text so small?! [18:37] @UniversalSuperBox, Probably a scaling problem .... Btw, it's currently Material design because suru is not installed [18:37] (Suru for QQC2) [18:37] acts like it was sarcasm [18:38] Ressources and images are currently also missing. What does it say in the log? [18:38] (Assuming the keyboard works already) Do you have a jabber account to test it with? [18:40] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BFsqQc5vg3/ [18:40] Keyboard works though :) [18:40] I think I have a diaspora* account... how the heck to I use that [18:41] If your diaspora server supports the chat feature, just enter your diaspora* credentials [18:42] Oh, well look at that! [18:42] Hi @PhoenixLandPirate [18:42] Hi. Installed ut stable channel on opo. Really great. Where is the caldav thing hidden? Can't find it in the accounts nor in the calendar menu. Only Google and Ubuntu options are available. Any hint? Tx [18:42] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/e20FsQP7.png [18:42] @dohbee why does it freak you out? [18:43] @UniversalSuperBox, Hi [18:43] @UniversalSuperBox, Does the drawer conflict with any Ubuntu Touch touch gestures btw? [18:43] @UniversalSuperBox For the resources: Is there any env var that points to `/opt/click.ubuntu.com/kaidan.kaidanim/0.3.2/`? [18:43] @UniversalSuperBox, Whats this? [18:43] [Edit] @UniversalSuperBox For the resources: Is there any env var that points to `/opt/click.ubuntu.com/kaidan.kaidanim/0.3.2/` ? [18:43] [Edit] @UniversalSuperBox For the resources: Is there any env var that points to `/opt/click.ubuntu.com/kaidan.kaidanim/0.3.2/ ` ? [18:43] @PhoenixLandPirate, Kaidan, the app we're currently testing [18:43] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Gp9zXY59.png [18:43] It gets real wonky real fast... [18:43] I thought so but wasn't sure [18:44] @UniversalSuperBox, Lol, it's in desktop mode because of broken scaling 😆 [18:44] @Ellenjott Maybe Kirigami.GridUnit is not correctly set? [18:44] [Edit] @Ellenjott Maybe Kirigami.GridUnit is not correctly set on Ubuntu Touch? [18:45] @JBBgameich, I'm not sure, we should better ask the kirigami developers, I think [18:45] As for gestures, no you're not interfering. It'd be best if that "Add new contact" menu was in a bottom swipe-up menu, but that's just nitpicking and using the design guidelines of a completely different OS. [18:45] @Ellenjott, I think it's also the first Kirigami App on Ubuntu Touch [18:45] Maybe that's something that'd get done in the style? Iunno how QML works honestly [18:46] @TartanSpartan, constantly streaming your location to a server and having it "learn the routes you like to take between home and work" and that kind of creepy usage of personal data [18:46] List of things to fix for now: … * scaling … * icons … * ressources [18:48] If you're looking to set grid units, you should have access to the `GRID_UNIT_PX` environment variable at any time [18:48] (Photo, 1248x562) https://irc.ubports.com/V6BpOkk6.png Just for comparison: That's how it's supposed to look like [18:48] Guys , What about the S7? [18:49] @JBBgameich, Yeah, that's a little different. We're close though! [18:49] I'll notify you when there's something new to test. Thanks for your help so far! [18:50] Guys , Any news for S7? [18:50] I see. [18:50]