| Nafallo | morning team | 07:44 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Morning Nafallo | 08:27 |
| seb128 | good mroning desktopers | 08:28 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how is today? | 08:28 |
| duflu | Sorry my head is cloudy. Too many years with very little linear algebra makes for a slow duflu | 08:28 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 08:28 |
| duflu | See above | 08:28 |
| duflu | How are you seb128? | 08:28 |
| tjaalton | seb128: are we getting mutter 3.28? | 08:29 |
| seb128 | I'm good, still tired though | 08:29 |
| duflu | tjaalton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1751070 | 08:29 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1751070 in budgie-desktop (Ubuntu) "mutter 3.28 transition" [Wishlist,In progress] | 08:29 |
| tjaalton | ok | 08:29 |
| * duflu crosses fingers | 08:30 | |
| tjaalton | thing is that the diff to force 8bit rgb doesn't apply to 3.26 since it's missing stuff | 08:30 |
| tjaalton | I'm not even sure if it would matter there | 08:31 |
| tjaalton | since it doesn't have meta_egl_choose_config() | 08:31 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning desktopers | 08:32 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg | 08:34 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, so that transition nows require us to update the shell stack to 3.27? | 08:34 |
| tjaalton | seb128: i'm saying it might not affect mutter 3.26 | 08:35 |
| seb128 | ah | 08:35 |
| seb128 | so back to investigate what's the issue that makes clutter autopkg red? | 08:35 |
| tjaalton | mutter disables some clutter tests that clutter itself doesn't | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | at least one of them was now failing | 08:37 |
| seb128 | so back to recommending just skipping that one? | 08:38 |
| seb128 | did anyone tested that the new stack doesn't result in a buggy session, with xorg and wayland? | 08:39 |
| tjaalton | I've been using it with xorg for weeks | 08:39 |
| seb128 | and did you try to log into wayland session? | 08:40 |
| tjaalton | trying now | 08:41 |
| seb128 | thx | 08:41 |
| tjaalton | seems to work | 08:42 |
| tjaalton | but this is intel, AIUI it would need a driver that uses gallium (radeon, swrast) | 08:43 |
| seb128 | the discussions about that transition seem tedious | 08:44 |
| seb128 | I would just like to know what's the way out | 08:44 |
| seb128 | we need to unblock things, other work needs to land :/ | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | looks like moving i965_dri.so aside breaks logging in | 08:45 |
| tjaalton | thought it would use swrast then | 08:45 |
| tjaalton | guess it tries to respawn the session, and i'm locked out | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | can't access anything :) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | :/ | 08:47 |
| seb128 | duflu, we said no bluetooth meeting this week right? (iirc konrad is not there?) | 08:50 |
| duflu | seb128, sounds right | 08:51 |
| seb128 | good, so I'm staying outside a bit longer :) | 08:51 |
| duflu | seb128, isn't it cold there? | 08:51 |
| seb128 | duflu, only -7°C :) | 08:53 |
| seb128 | k, I'm changing location, back in 5-10 min | 08:57 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:57 |
| Nafallo | morning willcooke :-) | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | 17:08:49 <seb128> hehe | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | 17:08:50 <Nafallo> and the release days :-D | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | 17:08:59 <seb128> good luck | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | meh | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | not that button... | 08:59 |
| Laney | moin oin | 09:01 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney, how is u.k today? | 09:11 |
| willcooke | hi seb128, some nice snow here over night | 09:19 |
| willcooke | Quite nice this morning, the kids all get very excited when they open their curtains | 09:20 |
| seb128 | :) | 09:20 |
| darkxst | hey willcooke, seb128, Laney | 09:21 |
| jibel | seb128, hi, do you have a bug associated to the removal of ecryptfs? | 09:22 |
| jibel | in ubiquity | 09:22 |
| willcooke | yo darkxst | 09:22 |
| seb128 | jibel, hey, no, would that be useful/better? | 09:22 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 09:22 |
| jibel | seb128, no, it was just to add it to the commit log for the sake of documentation. | 09:23 |
| darkxst | willcooke, we must almost be due for some snow, but right now its just a smoky mess outside ;( fires down in the valley | 09:24 |
| seb128 | jibel, the security team is due to write a post about that "this week" since january, we agreed that they are too busy and that it shouldn't block the commit | 09:24 |
| willcooke | darkxst, :(( | 09:24 |
| Laney | hey seb128 darkxst | 09:25 |
| Laney | and willcooke jibel too | 09:25 |
| willcooke | hoy Laney, snow? | 09:25 |
| Laney | poor showing | 09:25 |
| willcooke | :( | 09:25 |
| Laney | hoping my fuschias are surviving | 09:26 |
| * Laney fleeced them up | 09:26 | |
| darkxst | seb128, isnt g-s-d using systemd user sessions? and a bunch of other services? really the only r-dep I can find that still uses X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay is probably update-notifier | 09:27 |
| darkxst | ^(re gnome-session patches obviously) | 09:28 |
| seb128 | darkxst, no, GNOME isn't using systemd user sessions | 09:28 |
| seb128 | L_aney is working on that | 09:28 |
| seb128 | see https://trello.com/c/9kiXF8rW/28-systemd-user-session-for-gnome-shell | 09:28 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey, did you see jbicha's question the other day about whether you plan to update system-config-printer in bionic? | 09:30 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, Debian has a newer version than us | 09:30 |
| mitya57 | Trevinho: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.9.4+dfsg-0ubuntu3 contains your Qt patch | 09:31 |
| darkxst | seb128, ok will have a look | 09:34 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, so what's the conclusion about clutter/autopkg/transition? | 09:36 |
| tkamppeter | jbicha, seb128, no, but I planned updating it today, to version 1.5.11 | 09:38 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, k, that version is already in Debian if that helps you | 09:40 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, also did you see my comment on https://trello.com/c/kMTto6kl/2-fix-printing-of-filled-pdf-forms-using-qpdf ? | 09:40 |
| tjaalton | seb128: xorg and totem work fine even with swrast, i can't test radeon but could add a workaround in /etc/drirc | 09:41 |
| tjaalton | needs mesa upload though | 09:41 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, well I don't know if that's needed | 09:42 |
| seb128 | what would you recommend doing? | 09:42 |
| tjaalton | accept what we have now | 09:42 |
| seb128 | I'm not following you :/ do you have confidence the update is fine and should be forced in or reserves on whether it might screw users on some videocards/drivers? | 09:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ wdyt? | 09:43 |
| tjaalton | iff mutter 3.26 would be affected, then the workaround is to log in to x | 09:43 |
| tjaalton | or i'll force-disable the 10bit support in drirc | 09:45 |
| seb128 | there is something wrong in our process if we can't test that case upfront without relying on screwing users and waiting them to report back | 09:45 |
| tjaalton | well, does anyone here have radeon? | 09:46 |
| tjaalton | no | 09:46 |
| tjaalton | (i bet) | 09:46 |
| tjaalton | I need to head out for a bit | 09:47 |
| seb128 | if we don't even have a radeon machine in ubuntu engineering then something is indeed wrong and we need to get somebody to buy/expense one imho... | 09:47 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, k, thanks for the update, let's see if Laney has an opinion on what we should do | 09:47 |
| tjaalton | I have at the office but it's -15C and won't be going there today | 09:48 |
| seb128 | k | 09:48 |
| tjaalton | I'll just add the drirc workaround and upload | 09:48 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, I have downloaded it. wiull merge it. | 09:48 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thx | 09:49 |
| Laney | I don't understand the problem | 09:49 |
| Laney | If the tests are now wrong, upload clutter to fix or drop them | 09:49 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks, sorry for being annoying about that, I just want things to get unblocked :/ | 09:49 |
| Laney | If they are right and there's a problem, it should be fixed | 09:49 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, that's going to fix clutter's tests? | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | no | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | just gnome-shell | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | makes sure it doesn't break on wayland | 09:50 |
| seb128 | so is anyone looking at the clutter test issue?. | 09:50 |
| Laney | I think tseliot was looking into the clutter/cogl thing specifically | 09:50 |
| seb128 | that's blocking the transition still :/ | 09:50 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 09:50 |
| seb128 | tseliot, hey :) | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | i'd say screw clutter | 09:51 |
| seb128 | we can't do that | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | totem works | 09:51 |
| seb128 | as Laney said, either it's a real issue and we need to fix it | 09:51 |
| seb128 | or it's not one but we understand what's going on and decide it's ok to skip | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | well, the mutter patch is for 3.27 | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | cogl is way older | 09:52 |
| seb128 | but clutter tests aren't on a GNOME stack | 09:52 |
| seb128 | so that update might still screw standalone clutter users | 09:52 |
| tjaalton | I'll upload this after lunch, sorry | 09:52 |
| seb128 | no problem | 09:52 |
| seb128 | enjoy lunch! | 09:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, can we hint gtk to ignore the clutter autopkg so it gets in? | 09:57 |
| tseliot | seb128, Laney: I'm working on it | 09:57 |
| seb128 | or is it going to be blocked by that transition anyway? | 09:58 |
| seb128 | I guess it it picked the proposed version that's because they need to go together? | 09:58 |
| seb128 | tseliot, thanks | 09:58 |
| tseliot | xserver, mesa, and the nvidias should go in together, yes | 09:59 |
| seb128 | but gtk? | 10:01 |
| Laney | not sure why the test got the mesa stack from proposed | 10:03 |
| Laney | that indicates that it picked up a dep or something | 10:03 |
| Laney | I could add the hint though and then we'll see if it works or not | 10:11 |
| Laney | this isn't the fault of gtk | 10:11 |
| * Laney stabs bzr | 10:17 | |
| Laney | "These branches have diverged" never fails to make me want to cry | 10:17 |
| seb128 | :/ | 10:18 |
| oSoMoN | snowy morning, desktoppers | 10:19 |
| Laney | ok, there, let's see | 10:20 |
| Laney | hey oSoMoN | 10:20 |
| Laney | been out making a snowman? | 10:20 |
| seb128 | Laney, thx! | 10:20 |
| seb128 | hey oSoMoN | 10:20 |
| oSoMoN | Laney is watching me ⛄ | 10:24 |
| oSoMoN | hey seb128 ! | 10:24 |
| oSoMoN | anyone else having issues connecting to canonistack instances? | 10:25 |
| oSoMoN | the one that I use for my IRC bouncer is off, and the web console is currently unavailable | 10:26 |
| Laney | they've been doing restarts for spectre | 10:27 |
| oSoMoN | right, that might be it | 10:28 |
| Laney | could be | 10:28 |
| tseliot | Laney: hey, how can I use local packages with autopkgtest ? | 10:47 |
| tseliot | Laney: or, how do I test my new packages? | 10:50 |
| tseliot | oh "Run tests from Debian .dsc source package" | 10:50 |
| popey | oSoMoN: one for you maybe? https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/80uyx8/different_version_numbers_of_libreoffice_snap/ | 10:55 |
| Laney | you can give it a .dsc and that will be built and tested or an amd64+source.changes if you already built it | 10:55 |
| oSoMoN | popey, that's weird, let me read this again and try to make sense of it | 10:56 |
| jibel | seb128, I reviewed your MP, it needs a small fix and it's all good. | 10:56 |
| Laney | tseliot: or if you fix in a different package you can give those debs on the commandline too | 10:57 |
| Laney | like if you wanted to add a new cogl in | 10:57 |
| Laney | and test clutter | 10:57 |
| tseliot | Laney: how? | 10:57 |
| Laney | after the source package to test | 10:57 |
| Laney | see autopkgtest(1) - it calls those 'testbinary' | 10:58 |
| oSoMoN | popey, that looks like a bug in gnome-software that's displaying info from the candidate channel | 11:00 |
| oSoMoN | oh wait, it's not a bug, you can click on the channel label in the details to switch channels | 11:01 |
| oSoMoN | I'm not sure why candidate is selected by default though | 11:01 |
| tseliot | Laney: ok, thanks | 11:07 |
| jibel | since the update of gnome-terminal this morning in bionic, symlinks in byobu are blinking. Is anyone seeing that? | 11:21 |
| jibel | my eyes are bleeding | 11:21 |
| popey | yes | 11:23 |
| popey | someone told me this happens in some other terminals a while back | 11:23 |
| jibel | popey, is there a bug for it? | 11:23 |
| popey | dunno, I only just noticed when you mentioned it | 11:24 |
| jibel | okay, I'll report one | 11:24 |
| jibel | popey, thanks | 11:24 |
| popey | its not just urls | 11:24 |
| popey | symlinks do too | 11:24 |
| popey | (here anyway) | 11:24 |
| seb128 | jibel, great, thanks | 11:24 |
| jibel | yes, what I said. | 11:24 |
| popey | oh, i read it as urls.. duh | 11:24 |
| jibel | and just in byobu, without it it's fine | 11:25 |
| popey | dont think it's since this morning btw | 11:25 |
| popey | I haven't updated for a few days | 11:25 |
| seb128 | Laney, gtk migrated, thanks :) | 11:26 |
| Laney | np | 11:30 |
| jbicha | jibel: I don't know what you're talking about but blinking text is a new feature 😉 https://git.gnome.org/browse/vte/commit/?id=38396ef8 | 11:32 |
| * popey blinks | 11:34 | |
| * xnox pukes | 11:41 | |
| tseliot | Laney, tjaalton: I suspect the regression in virtualbox that's blocking X is more like the test looking for the vboxvideo.ko, which is not even mentioned in the sourceshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#gdbm https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-bionic/bionic/amd64/v/virtualbox/20180227_201549_c6f06@/log.gz | 11:42 |
| tseliot | as all the modules build here | 11:43 |
| oSoMoN | bah, we had that back in the 90s with the HTML blink element | 11:43 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: the maintainer knows, and said it should be badtested | 11:43 |
| ahayzen | Hmm Tilix has an option for Blink Mode, wonder if that'll switch it off, gnome-terminal doesn't seem to have such an option (at least in 17.10 :-) ) | 11:44 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: badtested? | 11:44 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: ignored | 11:44 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: ok, it makes sense, looking at the logs | 11:45 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, is there anything blocking the promotion of libepubgen to main? | 11:45 |
| seb128 | jibel, k, I pushed an update which should fix that and remove the autopilot corresponding file as well | 11:47 |
| Laney | tseliot: apw (oh hi) usually takes care of that one I think | 11:47 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, no, just too much to do, I did it now | 11:52 |
| jibel | seb128, thx | 11:52 |
| seb128 | jibel, thank you for testing&reviewing | 11:52 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, thanks! | 11:52 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, yw! | 11:52 |
| apw | tseliot, wassup ? | 11:59 |
| tseliot | apw: the tests for virtualbox are looking for a module (vboxvideo.ko) that is not there any more https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-bionic/bionic/amd64/v/virtualbox/20180227_201549_c6f06@/log.gz | 12:00 |
| tseliot | apw: and this is one of the things blocking xorg-server: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#gdbm | 12:00 |
| tseliot | vbox builds without problems here | 12:01 |
| apw | tseliot, that log shows it failing to check the version correctly, but the thing _is_ there | 12:03 |
| apw | tseliot, that said that is meant to be fixed ... | 12:03 |
| tseliot | apw: oh, I suppose that comes from virtualbox-guest-dkms, I only tested virtualbox-dkms | 12:04 |
| apw | tseliot, anyhow that can be ignored as it has passed otherwise | 12:05 |
| apw | tseliot, but i did all the work to make this work, and yet it is not applied, wtf | 12:05 |
| tseliot | heh | 12:06 |
| * duflu masters elliptical hysteresis | 12:15 | |
| * duflu forgot to eat | 12:15 | |
| apw | tseliot, oh no it is there, just that that one driver is now officially in staging | 12:33 |
| tseliot | oh | 12:33 |
| apw | tseliot, and dkms is very very dumb when handling this | 12:47 |
| apw | tseliot, hinted anyhow | 12:54 |
| xnox | seb128, should encrypt-home be dropped from user-setup udeb too? such the d-i does not ask those questions. | 13:14 |
| xnox | seb128, i know that we may use native-fisesystem encryption in the future, but until then, imho it's better to drop the code alltogether. | 13:14 |
| xnox | seb128, we have version control to resurrect things. | 13:14 |
| seb128 | xnox, if you want to sure, I didn't want to have to chase kubuntu people to know what they wanted to do so I only removed the option from the installer we use in Ubuntu Desktop | 13:15 |
| seb128 | but it probably makes sense to remove it from d-i is we support that one | 13:16 |
| seb128 | is->if | 13:16 |
| xnox | seb128, my thinking was that the underlying tech is unsupportable, reliably, any more =/ | 13:16 |
| xnox | seb128, was this requested by security team, no? i wonder if i should double check with tyhicks | 13:17 |
| seb128 | that might be the case, I'm not going to stop you if you want to go further | 13:17 |
| seb128 | yeah, he said it was going to move to universe | 13:17 |
| seb128 | not to be removed from the archive | 13:17 |
| seb128 | so I guess flavors could still use it if they wanted | 13:17 |
| seb128 | but you are right, it's probably not a good thing to do | 13:18 |
| Laney | tseliot: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/z44XsGY8NS/ I thought that might be useful to you | 13:19 |
| Laney | the remaining xorg-server failure | 13:19 |
| Laney | pasted it twice in there by mistake, go to line 100 | 13:20 |
| Laney | soup time, bbbbbbbbbbbbrb | 13:21 |
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| jbicha | Laney: have you consider adding totem to the minimal-remove list? | 14:08 |
| jbicha | and what about ubuntu-web-launchers?? | 14:09 |
| Laney | don't ask me, I'm not sure what the specification is, I just copied the list didrocks came up with | 14:14 |
| jbicha | ok, I'll add it to the big stack I have for him :) | 14:15 |
| tseliot | Laney: I'll have a look at it, thanks | 14:18 |
| Laney | jbicha: wi_llcooke could probably assist you | 14:20 |
| Laney | don't think you'll get away with ubuntu-web-launchers | 14:21 |
| Laney | nice try though :P | 14:21 |
| seb128 | jibel, thanks for the reviews, sorry for the stupid mistake I didn't do any extra testing after the previous changes, should have I guess | 14:24 |
| seb128 | jibel, going to fix that in a bit | 14:24 |
| jibel | seb128, np, I fixed them and continuing with the review | 14:26 |
| jbicha | it would be controversial if u-web-launchers was included and it's more noticeable when the Dock & Activities Overview are more empty | 14:26 |
| seb128 | jibel, great, thx | 14:26 |
| willcooke | jbicha, totem seems like a good idea, but I dont want to cause more changes, so if it can be added to the list easily, wfm. u-w-l I think we'd need to keep really. But I will defer to didrocks who is back tomorrow | 14:28 |
| Laney | controversial to who? | 14:28 |
| Laney | I think it's as controversial as it's going to get anyway | 14:28 |
| jbicha | there will be complaints and I expect reviewers will notice | 14:29 |
| jbicha | as far as controversies goes, this one is kinda "minimal" though ;) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | sorry I changed location and closed IRC, what's the suggestion? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | jibel, if the rest is fine do you want to merge my branch and commit your fix after it, or me to include your changes? | 14:36 |
| jbicha | seb128: I suggested that ubuntu-web-launchers be added to the minimal-remove list | 14:37 |
| seb128 | ah | 14:37 |
| seb128 | willcooke, don't make didrocks be unhappy on his day back by having to have it to make a call for things he doesn't care about/didn't make the requirement for :) | 14:39 |
| willcooke | seb128, well, I said I didnt want to make more changes, so I've said no already, but if he wants to say yes, thats fine by me | 14:43 |
| seb128 | k, wfm | 14:43 |
| willcooke | :) | 14:43 |
| seb128 | it's easy to tweak that list now, thanks to L_aney | 14:44 |
| jibel | seb128, I'll test on kubuntu just in case, then apply my changes and merge your proposal | 14:50 |
| seb128 | jibel, k, you might hit the issue raised on #ubuntu-release with the kde installer though | 14:51 |
| jibel | seb128, oh, okay, I'll just approve and merge then | 14:52 |
| seb128 | thx :) | 14:52 |
| jibel | and have a look at this kde crash | 14:52 |
| seb128 | jibel, it looks weird, the diff has no mention of that secureboot label | 14:52 |
| jibel | seb128, the page layout changed, maybe the xml is broken a bit | 14:53 |
| jibel | i'll see | 14:53 |
| Laney | don't duplicate too much with tsimonq2 | 14:53 |
| amano | jibel, blinking cursors is a new feature in gnome-terminal | 14:56 |
| amano | you can turn that off in the preferences | 14:57 |
| xnox | =/ | 14:58 |
| xnox | i really hope we can ship a sensible default of non-blinking, for the sake of epileptic users. | 14:59 |
| amano | (in your gnome-terminal profile to be exact) | 14:59 |
| jibel | amano, okay, but blinking symlinks is byobu is not nice. I suppose the default theme of byobu needs fixing | 15:00 |
| jibel | s/is/in/ | 15:00 |
| jibel | which reminds me I had to file a bug | 15:01 |
| jbicha | seb128: should I go ahead and upload e-d-s 3.27 late today to avoid FFe paperwork? | 15:03 |
| amano | I guess the reason for Egmond Kobleder was that if an app thinks that it has a good reason to blink (e. g. attention grabbing) , let it blink | 15:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, that's going to add up to the mesa/gnome-desktop transition if we do that right? | 15:03 |
| jbicha | yes | 15:03 |
| seb128 | so please don't | 15:03 |
| jbicha | ok | 15:03 |
| seb128 | tseliot and tjaalton are working on clearing those out | 15:03 |
| seb128 | let them today at least | 15:04 |
| jbicha | jibel: as a workaround, Terminal > Edit > Preferences > Allow blinking text | 15:06 |
| amano | speaking of gnome-terminal: is there still a Unity CSD patch applied or does it still lack a symbol for the preferences in the title bar? | 15:07 |
| jbicha | amano: ? | 15:08 |
| amano | a preferences button next to minimise/maximise/close | 15:09 |
| amano | there should be one, I guess | 15:10 |
| jbicha | I still don't understand | 15:11 |
| seb128 | jbicha, he seems to want an hamburger menu in a csd decoration? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | upstream wishlist | 15:11 |
| amano | ah ok, it is still not there upstream then. | 15:13 |
| jibel | jbicha, thanks, that's fine. I don't spend my day starring at symlinks and can bear it until the default is fixed :) | 15:13 |
| amano | (yes, a hamburger menu ;) ) | 15:13 |
| jbicha | amano: you mean headerbars (aka client-side decorations)? | 15:14 |
| amano | yes, headerbars ;) | 15:14 |
| jbicha | that's a rough spot with the Terminal maintainer, there is a bit of progress there but it may take a while, see GNOME bug 756798 | 15:15 |
| ubot5` | Gnome bug 756798 in general "Gnome-Terminal Header Bar (Client-Side Decorations)" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756798 | 15:15 |
| jbicha | maybe the kind of person who enjoys dealing with low-level terminal emulation coding isn't as quick to adopt new UI stuff :) | 15:16 |
| jbicha | also, terminal is more complex than most GNOME apps | 15:16 |
| amano | thanks. I always thought that was hidden in Unity . But I like Egmond's work with 2.27/28. The new preferences window looks very clean 😍 | 15:17 |
| amano | it always felt a bit weird to have separate preferences and profile preferences | 15:18 |
| amano | s/2.27/3.27 | 15:33 |
| jibel | Laney, there is no minimal install on kubuntu with your patch. Is it expecteD? | 16:22 |
| jibel | OTOH it does not crash | 16:23 |
| Laney | jibel: yeah they don't have it | 16:24 |
| Laney | it's per flavour | 16:24 |
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| jibel | okay. Everything else is going well | 16:25 |
| Laney | great | 16:30 |
| Laney | thanks for being a ubi reviewer | 16:30 |
| tjaalton | Laney, seb128: I've verified that the clutter test failures were indeed due to the 10bit configs, verified by adding workarounds to drirc for each failing test binary | 16:46 |
| tjaalton | now hoping tseliot has a working cogl soon :) | 16:46 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: unfortunately my patch didn't really work. I'm getting the exact same failures | 16:48 |
| tjaalton | ok, bah | 16:49 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: well, the autopkgtest command ignored my local packages, that's why | 16:52 |
| tseliot | oh, no it didn't | 16:53 |
| tseliot | I misread | 16:53 |
| tjaalton | I'll try something quick.. | 16:58 |
| tjaalton | no dice | 17:09 |
| tjaalton | actually | 17:11 |
| tjaalton | it looks like clutter itself is to blame after all, the tests I mean | 17:11 |
| tjaalton | would be interesting to see how cogl tests would fare | 17:11 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, hum, I've difficulty following, we are basically at the same point as yesterday then? | 17:12 |
| tjaalton | yes | 17:12 |
| seb128 | clutter is failing and nobody has a clue why/how to fix it | 17:12 |
| tjaalton | I'll check if cogl tests (which aren't built) fail | 17:15 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, that puts us in a tricky position :/ | 17:15 |
| seb128 | unsure what to do from there | 17:15 |
| seb128 | ff is tomorrow and thats blocking other work to land | 17:15 |
| seb128 | we could delete that stack from proposed since it seems not ready | 17:16 |
| tjaalton | i know | 17:16 |
| seb128 | or pile other things | 17:16 |
| seb128 | or delay other lands, screw schedule, need extra ffe, etc | 17:16 |
| seb128 | none of options is great :/ | 17:16 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, do you need help from somebody and if so what kind of somebody? like what bits are not understandable in the test failure? | 17:17 |
| tjaalton | I'll just revert stuff from mesa then | 17:18 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: would that allow libglvnd and nvidia to work? | 17:19 |
| tjaalton | unrelated | 17:19 |
| tseliot | ok, good | 17:20 |
| andyrock | kenvandine hey hey | 17:24 |
| andyrock | kenvandine do you know if GsAuth is used just for snapd and ubuntu-reviews g-s plugins? | 17:25 |
| andyrock | we might need to modify it in order to get g-s integrated with g-o-a | 17:26 |
| tjaalton | seb128, tseliot: I'll just flip the default in mesa and be done with it for now.. | 17:29 |
| tjaalton | no need to revert anything | 17:30 |
| kenvandine | andyrock, i really don't know | 17:30 |
| kenvandine | andyrock, robert_ancell would probably know | 17:30 |
| andyrock | thanks I'll ping him tonight | 17:30 |
| Laney | andyrock: It is, yes, but I think there were plans to support donations which might use this | 17:31 |
| Laney | You should go to #gnome-software and discuss your changes there with hughsie I think | 17:31 |
| andyrock | kk | 17:31 |
| tjaalton | mesa uploaded | 17:38 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: yes, we can figure this out later. Thanks | 17:38 |
| tjaalton | right, I'll start by checking the cogl tests first | 17:40 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thx! | 17:42 |
| willcooke | calling it EOD, night all | 18:09 |
| oSoMoN | same here, it's been a productive day, see ya all tomorrow | 18:10 |
| Laney | o/ too | 18:22 |
| cyphermox | jbicha: is vanilla-gnome still something? because your tasksel changes from last cycle do not work (and aren't supposed to, as-is) | 19:48 |
| jbicha | cyphermox: it's a thing, what's not working? | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | vanilla-gnome reminds me of the old days of stracciatella-session to get a "mostly GNOME upstream" (vanilla) session | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | jaunty i think | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Jaunty/StracciatellaSession | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | wow, that was created the very day I joined canonical :) | 20:20 |
| sarnold | nice :) | 20:21 |
| seb128 | jbicha, debconf on gtk3 is landing it seems :) | 20:37 |
| seb128 | shame that all the tests are getting screwed by that font conflict :/ | 20:37 |
| seb128 | update_excuses is a stack of red | 20:37 |
| seb128 | I hope somebody has a magic retry-all script | 20:38 |
| andyrock | jbicha: hey hey | 21:44 |
| andyrock | building the deb of gnome-online-account I get several warnings treated as errors | 21:44 |
| andyrock | I just do "debuild -b" | 21:46 |
| jbicha | I use sbuild | 21:54 |
| jbicha | you could pastebin the build log? | 21:54 |
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