| arooni | about to upgrade ubuntu 14.04 => 16.04 server via command line; anything i need to keep in mind? | 00:16 |
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| arooni | about to upgrade ubuntu 14.04 => 16.04 server via command line; anything i need to keep in minabout to upgrade ubuntu 14.04 => 16.04 server via command line; anything i need to keep in mind?d? | 00:16 |
| arooni | oops sorry for the repost | 00:16 |
| arooni | (twice :( ) | 00:16 |
| sarnold | if you've got apache installed I think 16.04 changed the authentication and authorization stuff | 00:17 |
| sarnold | and php7 doesn't handle everything php5 did. or something like that. | 00:17 |
| rbasak | arooni: take a full system backup before you begin :) | 00:18 |
| arooni | is doing the upgrade not recommended | 00:18 |
| arooni | i.e. as opposed to transferring to a clean install | 00:18 |
| sarnold | no, upgrade should work, please file bugs if you run into trouble. but backups are always a good idea. :) | 00:19 |
| arooni | running a snapshot backup first | 00:20 |
| arooni | i wasnt really paying attention; was running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wrong | 00:29 |
| sarnold | do-release-upgrade is the supported way to move from one release to the next | 00:30 |
| arooni | sarnold: ok so a bit of dist-upgrade already ran before i control c'd it | 00:34 |
| arooni | does that mean i really screwed up | 00:34 |
| sarnold | maybe | 00:34 |
| arooni | and need to restore from the backup before trying again | 00:35 |
| sarnold | did it start unpacking packages yet? | 00:35 |
| sarnold | or was it still downloading? | 00:35 |
| arooni | ummm i think it was setting up packages :( | 00:35 |
| arooni | got to this https://gist.github.com/5b17ced2bbdde3cae2cc806cdba9bae8 | 00:36 |
| sarnold | *probably* if you set the apt sources back the way they were, and run do-release-upgrade, it'll sort out a path forward | 00:36 |
| sarnold | arooni: those numbers seem sane. might as well let it go :) | 00:36 |
| arooni | well i have a backup in case i kaboshed it | 00:37 |
| arooni | may as well see | 00:37 |
| sdeziel | arooni: if you have apache2, sites-enabled needs to contain files ending with .conf | 00:45 |
| rbasak | nacc_: do you want me to work on getting gpgv in the snap tomorrow? Or are you looking at it already? | 00:45 |
| arooni | sdeziel: i'm using nginx | 00:46 |
| arooni | if there are any gotchas there | 00:46 |
| sdeziel | arooni: not that I remember | 00:46 |
| sdeziel | arooni: only good things ahead (http2) :) | 00:46 |
| nacc_ | rbasak: i can work on it now, and i'll send an mp off yours? | 00:47 |
| nacc_ | it should end up passing ci as a means to check it | 00:47 |
| arooni | goodbye php 5.6 | 00:49 |
| arooni | hello php 7 | 00:49 |
| nacc_ | arooni: 14.04 -> 16.04? | 00:50 |
| arooni | howd you guess lol | 00:50 |
| rbasak | nacc_: sure, thanks | 00:51 |
| nacc_ | arooni: :) | 00:51 |
| arooni | should i keep the unattended upgrades config file i created | 00:51 |
| arooni | diff doesnt appear to have anything about a specificrelease | 00:51 |
| sdeziel | arooni: trusty ships with php 5.5.9, do you have any PPAs? | 00:56 |
| arooni | i think i did | 00:57 |
| arooni | probably should have blown them away prior to upgrade | 00:57 |
| nacc_ | do-release-upgrade does automatically disable them, but you still need to purge them, iirc | 00:57 |
| arooni | well it booted up successfully as 16.0.4 | 00:58 |
| arooni | 16.04.4 | 00:58 |
| nacc_ | arooni: well, that's not released yet, so hopefully not :) | 00:59 |
| sdeziel | nacc_: the base-files update was pushed already | 01:06 |
| nacc_ | sdeziel: really? | 01:06 |
| nacc_ | sdeziel: that's surprising, but i guess doesn't hurt | 01:06 |
| sdeziel | grep VERSION= /etc/os-release | 01:06 |
| sdeziel | all of my systems are reporting 16.04.4 | 01:07 |
| arooni | so ;;; if there are things listed in my sources.list.d directory that reference trusty | 01:07 |
| nacc_ | sdeziel: interesting, i thought that would be coordinated with the official release, but maybe that's only for the iso | 01:07 |
| arooni | do i need to delete/remove them | 01:07 |
| arooni | or will they not be used as its not the xenial release | 01:07 |
| sdeziel | nacc_: the ISO always seems to lag from a couple days | 01:07 |
| sdeziel | arooni: you need to delete/update them | 01:08 |
| nacc_ | sdeziel: well, the iso isn't supposed to release until mar 1 | 01:08 |
| sdeziel | arooni: well, only the files with names ending with .list | 01:08 |
| arooni | what are the other files there for | 01:09 |
| sdeziel | leftovers from the release upgrade mostly | 01:09 |
| nacc_ | rbasak: i'm testing the trivial revert now, and then i'll need to narrow it done | 01:24 |
| nacc_ | i should be able to work on it more tmrw | 01:24 |
| nacc_ | rbasak: sigh, you're calling gpg too in the tests :) | 03:17 |
| nacc_ | rbasak: i think we can snap all of gpg again, but not use it in our code | 03:19 |
| nacc_ | beyond the tests | 03:19 |
| nacc_ | i'll need to verify that's actually the case, though | 03:19 |
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| chamar | Hi folks, anyone using LXC/LXD? | 03:58 |
| sdeziel | chamar: yes | 04:22 |
| chamar | sdeziel, Are you using the apt-get package or snap?! Having package at both place is kind of confusing | 04:23 |
| sdeziel | chamar: I'm using the apt-get package because I set this up before the snap came in. That said, upstream recommends using the snap now | 04:24 |
| chamar | Thanks, I'll go with snap then. Appreciate. | 04:25 |
| sdeziel | np | 04:25 |
| Goop | is it possible to enable/disable a graphical desktop environment on-demand? | 04:27 |
| sarnold | you can certainly apt-get install unity or fvwm2 or whatever you want .. and then apt-get purge it again later | 04:44 |
| sdeziel | Goop: on a 16.04 desktop, you could set the lightdm service to not autostart (systemctl disable lightdm) and manually start it when you want a graphical session | 04:52 |
| mason | Goop: you don't mean "systemctl set-default" do you? | 04:54 |
| mason | ...because if youre going to have a generic system-wide default on Unixlike systems, of course it should really mean "is this my laptop or not". :P | 04:55 |
| mason | s/default/& setting/ | 04:55 |
| chamar | urgl.. what is that netplan thing?! :/ | 05:03 |
| mason | chamar: You should still be able to install/usr ifupdown. | 05:03 |
| chamar | yeah.. ho.. that seems to be tied with systemd.. hum | 05:04 |
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| cpaelzer | good morning | 06:03 |
| rbasak | nacc_: oh. To import the keys into keyrings, yeah, sorry. Any version fo gpg will do for that though. | 09:50 |
| soshiant | i want to install snmpd | 11:01 |
| soshiant | apt-get install snmpd | 11:01 |
| soshiant | errror is : libsnmp30 depends libsensores | 11:01 |
| soshiant | i use ubuntu server repository | 11:02 |
| soshiant | trusty distribution | 11:02 |
| soshiant | snmpd depends libmysqlclient18 | 11:02 |
| hateball | soshiant: can you !paste the full output? | 11:19 |
| hateball | soshiant: also run an "sudo apt-get update" first | 11:19 |
| soshiant | <hateball> libsnmp30 depends libsensores4 but it is not installed | 11:40 |
| soshiant | <hateball> snmpd depends libmysqlclient18 but it is not installed | 11:41 |
| hateball | soshiant: can you paste what "apt-cache policy libsnmp30" says? | 11:41 |
| hateball | !paste | soshiant | 11:41 |
| ubottu | soshiant: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 11:41 |
| soshiant | i use ubuntu server repository | 11:41 |
| soshiant | i can't past | 11:41 |
| Ussat | When 18.04LTS goes live, what ver of php will it have ? 7 ? | 11:43 |
| soshiant | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7DrW4n74r5/ | 11:51 |
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| frickler | jamespage: you might want to fix your ceph-volume patch to avoid overlap with debian/python-cephfs.install:usr/lib/python2*/dist-packages/ceph_volume_client.py*, see https://git.launchpad.net/~j-harbott/ubuntu/+source/ceph/commit/?id=a874f13042b58073906b9a4465c3498d99301d3c | 12:53 |
| jamespage | frickler: thanks | 13:26 |
| soshiantt | . | 13:29 |
| boxrick | Good afternoon folks, just dabbling with Ubuntu 18 and I would like to drop netplan and use the stock systemd-networkd. Is there any caveats or things to be aware of in this? | 14:07 |
| boxrick | And a simple way of disabling netplna | 14:07 |
| boxrick | Netplan | 14:07 |
| rbasak | boxrick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan#I_really_do_need_ifupdown.2C_can_I_still_use_it.3F | 14:13 |
| rbasak | Oh I'm sorry. | 14:13 |
| rbasak | That's not exactly what you asked. | 14:13 |
| rbasak | But I suppose if you used ifupdown in the way described, it's easy enough to configure it to do nothing. | 14:14 |
| rbasak | I suspect exactly the same applies with netplan - if not given a plan, it will do nothing. | 14:14 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: ^ | 14:14 |
| boxrick | So lets assume I remove the netplan config then insert the systemd networkd config and restart networkig | 14:15 |
| boxrick | networking* | 14:15 |
| rbasak | What does "restart networking" mean? :) | 14:15 |
| boxrick | Good point, since that doesn't work in Ubuntu 18 | 14:16 |
| rbasak | The term has no meaning. | 14:16 |
| rbasak | Way back when (before upstart) it might have meant "run the restart action on the networking init.d script) | 14:16 |
| rbasak | Nowadays with more complex networking setups, and hotplug and so on, it has little meaning. | 14:17 |
| cyphermox | boxrick: have you filed bugs about whatever doesn't work for you? | 14:26 |
| cyphermox | and yeah, if you just remove the config, it will do nothing | 14:26 |
| boxrick | There is no bugs | 14:37 |
| boxrick | Just rather first testing | 14:37 |
| boxrick | I need a multi OS networking config, so netplan isn't suitable | 14:37 |
| boxrick | Configuring systemd-networkd directly is ideal. | 14:37 |
| boxrick | So as a brief example, if I have eth0 configured by netplan on DHCP. If I remove the config, recreate in systemd-networkd and do a service systemd-networkd restart. Will it spring to life ? | 14:38 |
| boxrick | Is there any way to confirm netplan is not doing the config to make sure its working. | 14:38 |
| cyphermox | if there is nothing in /etc/netplan, netplan will do absolutely nothing | 14:39 |
| cyphermox | but yes, you can use netplan to generate a configuration, then edit it as a starting point for using systemd-network directly -- so once you have config for systemd-networkd in /etc/systemd/network, you can restart systemd-networkd and the network should be managed correctly. | 14:40 |
| rbasak | nacc_: would you mind avoiding prefixing your branch names with lp references please? It stops me being able to tab complete anything :-/ | 14:57 |
| rbasak | A suffix would be fine. | 14:57 |
| jamespage | frickler: thanks for that - I've pushed ready for next week when I'll upload | 15:39 |
| frickler | jamespage: nice, maybe you can also consider https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1752308 | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1752308 in ceph (Ubuntu) "ceph-mgr needs python-jinja2 for dashboard plugin" [Undecided,New] | 15:41 |
| nacc_ | rbasak: why does it stop you? | 15:46 |
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| rbasak | nacc: because autocomplete stops after nacc/lp173 and after that I basically have to look up the number every time. From my POV your branches might as well be numbered instead of being named. | 15:50 |
| nacc | rbasak: right, but for me it's handy to know which branch i need to checkout based upon which bug i'm working on | 15:51 |
| nacc | rbasak: if it's a suffix, i need to know the <string topic> i chose in order to find it | 15:51 |
| rbasak | I didn't think you'd find it less convenient. It's your choice I guess :) | 15:52 |
| rbasak | Personally I can remember the names of a few different things more easily than I can remember the numbers of a few different things :) | 15:52 |
| nacc | rbasak: i'm the opposite :) | 15:52 |
| rbasak | (and the numbers are typically all alike) | 15:52 |
| rbasak | nacc: if you're available, would you like to sync before the standup? | 15:53 |
| nacc | rbasak: ack | 15:54 |
| nacc | rbasak: i can join now | 15:54 |
| rbasak | omw | 15:54 |
| coreycb | jamespage: down to 3 failures with tempest on queens | 15:54 |
| coreycb | jamespage: i'm planning to get the final releases uploaded and then work through those last 3 failures | 15:55 |
| jamespage | coreycb: +1 | 15:56 |
| jamespage | sounds good - do you need a hand? | 15:56 |
| jamespage | happy for you to take all of the release glory but if you want to spread the load I have some 'waiting for functional tests to complete' time | 15:56 |
| coreycb | jamespage: either way is fine with me | 15:58 |
| coreycb | jamespage: should be relatively light-weight at this point | 15:58 |
| jamespage | coreycb: ok shall I take the neutron* and networking* bits then? | 15:58 |
| jamespage | and you can work the rest | 15:58 |
| coreycb | jamespage: sure, sounds good | 16:05 |
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| nacc | rbasak: do you have a few minutes? just wanted to check something with you | 16:43 |
| rbasak | nacc: sure. Which HO? | 16:43 |
| nacc | rbasak: standup is fine | 16:43 |
| rbasak | omw | 16:44 |
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| arunpyasi | Hi everyone, I need to have a secondary mail server which can be used to receive and send emails when primary server is down and the emails should be sync with one another. How do I achieve that ? A good tutorial/manual/tool/link would be appreciated. Thanks ! | 16:47 |
| TJ- | arunpyasi: if using postfix a smarthost config on 1 of them | 16:48 |
| arunpyasi | TJ-,doing that will sync the emails on both the sides ? | 16:59 |
| TJ- | arunpyasi: the idea is the SmartHost receives them and passes them on to the primary server when it can | 17:02 |
| arunpyasi | TJ-, ok, I went through this soln but the thing is, I need each other to be synced and server2 be available for pop/imap/smtp when server1 is down | 17:09 |
| TJ- | arunpyasi: then you'd need file-system level syncing between them of the mailbox directory/ies so POP/IMAP clients can see the emails | 17:11 |
| arunpyasi | TJ-, ok so this goes to the filesystem sync ? can it be rsync or GlusterFS ? | 17:13 |
| Ussat | You need 2 servers that share the same FS, and the config on the servers should reflect that | 17:13 |
| TJ- | arunpyasi: take your pick of options :) I think I'd want a distributed file-system of some sort to make the sync transparent, but then you hit the problem of, at some times, needing it to switch masters | 17:13 |
| Ussat | also you need a smart way to determine when one is down and automatically fail to the live server | 17:13 |
| TJ- | arunpyasi: might be worth looking at how high-available servers are configured for jsut this kind of thing | 17:14 |
| Ussat | you could use a VIP that then goes to one or the other servers, the VIP could live on something like a F5 | 17:14 |
| Ussat | which would switch from one to the other based on which is live | 17:14 |
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| arunpyasi | Ussat, what is VIP ? AFAIK is Very Important Person | 17:25 |
| Ussat | Virtual IP | 17:26 |
| Ussat | So.....in the case of your scenario, the IP would reside on the F5 or similar, and the F5 would forward requests to one or the other server | 17:27 |
| Ussat | AKA Poor Mans HA | 17:27 |
| Ussat | Its perfectly viable though and works quite well | 17:27 |
| Ussat | Hard to explain over text | 17:28 |
| jamespage | coreycb: ok have neutron* and networking* built - about to publish to bionic once everything is differed | 17:42 |
| coreycb | jamespage: awesome | 17:43 |
| jamespage | coreycb: publishing now - I'll need to eod shortly | 17:59 |
| coreycb | jamespage: ok thanks. i should be able to get the rest today. work is underway on my end. | 18:00 |
| dpb1 | _bladernr_: the bug looks fine. Thanks. nacc is working on it now, we'll let you know where there is something to test. | 18:32 |
| nacc | dpb1: thanks | 18:32 |
| _bladernr_ | dpb1, thanks! | 18:34 |
| nacc | rbasak: to be sure, you're planning on acking my branch (fixes) before you EOW? | 18:34 |
| nacc | rbasak: and/or reviewing i guess | 18:35 |
| dpb1 | nacc: good thing you pinged him here. :) | 18:35 |
| nacc | dpb1: well, it's what we had talked about earlier, but i wanted to be sure -- needed before we can ramp up phasing | 18:35 |
| dpb1 | nacc: understood | 18:38 |
| rbasak | nacc: yeah I am. I deferred finishing work to do some chores that needed setting off earlier (like laundry). Now back to finish work and OW :) | 19:11 |
| rbasak | EOW | 19:11 |
| nacc | rbasak: np, i'll need to reboot in a sec, but i think this snap test should pass now (turns out gpg is senstivie to the order of its options :) | 19:11 |
| nacc | rbasak: ok, got self-test working with yoru branch | 19:27 |
| nacc | i'll update mine | 19:27 |
| nacc | rbasak: fyi, tests pass with my branch, i think i'm ok to land (i could wait for the integration tests, but it's a noop there, afaict) | 20:17 |
| nacc | powersj: hrm, do you know if the jenkins is perhaps not retriggering right now on branch changes? | 22:25 |
| nacc | powersj: i just updated ~nacc/lp1734905-script-fixes and i'm not seeing the CI job yet | 22:25 |
| powersj | nacc: https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/job/git-ubuntu-ci-trigger/17270/console that's the latest job | 22:25 |
| nacc | usually it's pretty immediate | 22:25 |
| powersj | it runs every 15mins | 22:25 |
| nacc | oh ok | 22:25 |
| nacc | maybe i always just got caught it before :) | 22:26 |
| coreycb | jamespage: everything for queens should be uploaded at this point. will cross-check the report later. still have 3 tempest failures. | 22:50 |
| driftmonk | hey guys. I’m trying to set e-tag and last-modified headers on my .htaccess but it only seems to work for requests to my subdomains. any ideas? (Wordpress on Ubuntu) | 23:15 |
| sarnold | driftmonk: iirc the main config delegates to the htaccess files which settings can be modified; perhaps your vhost configs delegate those things, but the "main" configs do not? | 23:16 |
| driftmonk | sarnold: are you talking about the httpd.conf file? | 23:18 |
| driftmonk | sorry i haven't touched web servers in a while | 23:19 |
| sarnold | driftmonk: yeah, and all the files that it includes | 23:20 |
| driftmonk | mm yes perhaps. I’m just using digital ocean with a Wordpress on Ubuntu platform. where on the machine can I find the configs? | 23:22 |
| sarnold | /etc/apache* I think | 23:23 |
| driftmonk | ahh! right! thanks sarnold. will have a look! cheers :) | 23:23 |
| pmatulis | how can i discover whether a certain package is installed by default on an ISO? for instance, how to discover whether 'lxd' is installed on Artful Server or Artful Desktop? | 23:33 |
| nacc | pmatulis: seeded-in-ubuntu command | 23:33 |
| nacc | pmatulis: and 'preinstalled' in the output for server or destkop as appropriate | 23:34 |
| patdk-lap | never installed for me | 23:36 |
| patdk-lap | but that is cause I only install jeos | 23:36 |
| pmatulis | nacc, sweet! but this covers only the running release right? | 23:39 |
| pmatulis | also, for 'snapd', i see 'ubuntu-server: daily, daily-live, daily-preinstalled' | 23:41 |
| pmatulis | what about the official ISO? and there are live ISO's for server? | 23:41 |
| nacc | pmatulis: i'm actually not sure, i think it reflects the current seeds (e.g., for bionic), but i really don't know | 23:42 |
| nacc | pmatulis: there is a new installer iso now (subiquity) | 23:42 |
| nacc | pmatulis: i wonder if that is waht the daily-live is | 23:42 |
| nacc | powersj: --^ maybe you can answer better? | 23:43 |
| mwhudson | er i don't think so | 23:43 |
| mwhudson | the live-server is just the server seed + sprinkles | 23:43 |
| nacc | oh ok | 23:43 |
| mwhudson | i think, anyway :) | 23:44 |
| mwhudson | or is it the cloud-image seed? | 23:46 |
| mwhudson | minimal, standard, server and cloud-image _tasks_ it seems | 23:54 |
| nacc | mwhudson: ah | 23:54 |
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