[00:15] <Unit193> I think I'd prefer complete removal, there's also Debian #886068
[00:26] <Unit193> ochosi: I'm going to presume you're using 'cat' in an effort for readability?
[00:31] <Unit193> I still think use of notifyd here is a bit odd, but not an actual issue.
[00:52] <bluesabre> back now
[00:52] <bluesabre> evening all
[00:54] <Unit193> Howdy.
[00:56] <bluesabre> hi Unit193 
[00:56] <bluesabre> how's it going?
[00:56] <Unit193> I'm still alive...
[00:56] <bluesabre> That's a relief
[01:04] <Unit193> How about you?
[01:10] <bluesabre> A-OK
[01:10] <bluesabre> Feeling pretty good about where we are dev-wise for Bionic
[01:30] <bluesabre> Unit193: see anything wrong with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1746556 and adding 50-xubuntu.conf (or 50-xubuntu-numlock.conf)?
[01:32] <Unit193> /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-xubuntu.conf already exists, fyi.
[01:33] <bluesabre> Unit193: yeah, but I think that one needs to run at 50... I tried inserting at 60 and numlockx didn't fire
[01:33] <bluesabre> or maybe it just needs to run before 60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[01:34] <Unit193> Wondered.
[01:36] <bluesabre> Thoughts?
[01:39] <Unit193> I'm wondering why my numlock is always on.
[01:44] <bluesabre> :D
[01:45] <bluesabre> bios setting maybe?
[01:48] <Unit193> Likely, though can't even use the keyboard until after grub. :P
[01:49] <bluesabre> That's pleasant
[01:49] <bluesabre> BIOS or UEFI?
[01:49] <Unit193> BIOS.
[01:49] <bluesabre> Darn
[01:49] <bluesabre> I've had good luck with using reFind to get my keyboard working at that stage of the boot
[01:50] <bluesabre> Otherwise it will work if I plug it in a bunch before the timer expires
[01:50] <bluesabre> But that won't help you :)
[01:50] <bluesabre> Maybe BURG
[01:51] <bluesabre> Also, thinking about building pa-plug in xubuntu with the wnck support
[01:52] <bluesabre> It primarily improves Spotify integration, which we favor enough to have it in a blog post https://xubuntu.org/news/my-media-manager-cloud/
[06:01] <flocculant> bluesabre Unit193 : numlock is always on for me in bios - I always have to muck about with numlockx, I put it in /etc/lightdm.d though
[06:02] <Unit193> flocculant: To be clear, I'm just saying "WFM, not sure why or how" :P
[06:09] <flocculant> yea for sure I understand - ftr in the past ochosi said exactly the same thing :D
[06:11] <Unit193> BUt you adding it every time means to me that it's decently tested for quirks. ;)
[06:11] <flocculant> :D
[06:12] <flocculant> I did used to put it in /usr then I changed - otherwise wfm :p
[06:16] <flocculant> bluesabre: marked xenial ready - doubt we'll get anyone else looking now
[06:16] <Unit193> Debian 846260, though, it's dead and gone upstream.
[06:32] <flocculant> do we need to worry? or do we need to worry after bionic? 
[06:33] <Unit193> I wouldn't worry, just something to know.
[06:39] <flocculant> :)
[06:40] <flocculant> probably been in that state longer than that bug date 
[06:42] <flocculant> bbl
[10:59] <ochosi> Unit193: feel free to suggest improvements to all of those scripts. what's the benefit of $@ over $* ? (also sorry about the whitespace changes, stupid editors...)
[11:47] <bluesabre> thanks flocculant 
[11:47] <bluesabre> will probably have a big hurrah of package updates tonight
[11:52] <bluesabre> ochosi, Unit193: once you guys are good with thunar-uca I'll also merge and release it
[11:57] <bluesabre> latest parole commit fixes video playback in vbox
[11:57] <bluesabre> trying to fix the other bugs tonight so I can push out the 1.0 of it
[11:58] <bluesabre> flocculant: and then I'll work on the blog post more :)
[12:01] <bluesabre> xfce4-settings 4.12.2; parole 1.0; xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin 0.3.5 with wnck; xubuntu-default-settings bump with numlockx, find-cursor, and new default video output for parole... I think are on my list
[12:19] <ochosi> sweet
[12:19] <ochosi> i'll also try to release notifyd 0.4.2 tomorrow
[12:19] <ochosi> everything is already prepared
[20:38] <flocculant> bluesabre: smoketested respin #2 - marking again ...
[22:48] <TheMaster> ochosi: I thought I did make recommendations! :P  And nah, the whitespace fixing isn't really a problem, I've done that.  Just asking you to note it if you wouldn't mind.  The difference has to do with splitting"
[22:49] <ochosi> TheMaster: right, but the question is whether there's any benefit
[22:49] <ochosi> the for loop does the splitting anyhow
[22:49] <ochosi> i can test again with multiple files with spaces in their names
[22:51] <ochosi> where and how would you note the whitespace removal?
[22:51] <ochosi> commit msg?
[22:51] <TheMaster> http://www.theunixschool.com/2011/03/difference-between-and-in-shell.html
[22:52] <TheMaster> ochosi: And I usually just drop 'd/changelog: Remove trailing whitespace in old entries.' in debian/changelog
[23:00] <ochosi> alrighty
[23:00] <ochosi> will amend that stuff
[23:04] <ochosi> meh, just noticed *.rtf is not in the libreoffice mimetype list
[23:04] <ochosi> how annyoing
[23:04] <ochosi> annoying
[23:13] <ochosi> TheMaster: grrr, i will have to switch back to using file extensions... some of the mimetypes of LO and the mimetypes that the file command return don't match
[23:13] <ochosi> for most things i tested it worked fine, but seemingly i don't have enough *.doc files
[23:14] <ochosi> "application/vnd.ms-word" vs "application/msword"
[23:14] <ochosi> quite silly
[23:14] <ochosi> i'll have to do that on friday, no time before then to rewrite this
[23:46] <bluesabre> thanks flocculant 
[23:46] <bluesabre> evening all
[23:58] <TheMaster> Oh, may as well note.  I'm going to rebuild vte in my own personal Xfce repo against pcre so that I can have a fully functional xfce4-terminal.