[05:59] <yousuc> last 4 days of daily bionic has installation issues when using "something else" for installation methods
[06:03] <alkisg> yousuc: what issues?
[06:04] <alkisg> Personally I'm getting UI freezes because of mate-hud, so I have to kill it on boot to be able to continue
[06:04] <yousuc> well after specifying the drives, click continue, get to the user add part
[06:04] <yousuc> as soon as i click on continue, installer crashes
[06:05] <yousuc> now if i installed with auto for drive layout, it will install just fine
[06:06] <yousuc> unfortunately my sda drive is mounted for /home
[06:06] <yousuc> just damn annoying
[06:07] <yousuc> even when u choose to install mate vs try mate mode, same thing
[06:08] <yousuc> been trying to fix/add gtk-3.0 port of nimbus theme, with latest mate, but i guess ill have to stick with virtualbox for dev and testing :/
[06:08] <alkisg> So when it crashes, it shows the apport crash dialog, where you can report it from?
[06:08] <yousuc> yeah sent
[06:09] <alkisg> Cool, that doesn't sound mate-specific, it probably affects all ubuntu flavors
[06:09] <yousuc> not tested other flavors, as since i am now supporting the nimbus theme, want to get it updated and all
[06:10] <yousuc> but frustrating working on it in vm tho
[06:13] <yousuc> i should have never deleted the iso i had from last week when it worked just fine...
[06:14] <yousuc> one thing i wish ubuntu would do for 18.04 would be to use xorg 1.20
[06:15] <yousuc> or integrate it in for release like in a .1
[06:16] <alkisg> yousuc: I have the isos from 25 Feb, do those suit you?
[06:16] <yousuc> yeah
[06:16] <yousuc> that would/should work perfect
[06:17] <yousuc> much appreciated! :)))
[06:17] <alkisg> yousuc: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr:8000
[06:17] <alkisg> Ping me when you're done, to stop the server
[06:17] <yousuc> grabn it now
[06:18] <yousuc> thank u very much for doing that!
[06:18] <alkisg> np :)
[06:19] <yousuc> hopefully in a couple weeks ill have nimbus theme done w/ gtk-3.0 for all
[06:19] <alkisg> I did do a custom install with those; although I had to kill mate-hud and fcitx to get past the UI freezes
[06:19] <yousuc> ah
[06:20] <yousuc> usually i never had a problem with the dailys until lately
[06:20] <alkisg> If your locale doesn't use a localized keyboard layout, you should be fine
[06:20] <alkisg> E.g. I'm using xkb layout = us,gr
[06:21] <alkisg> That's when mate-hud freezes...
[06:21] <yousuc> ah right
[06:22] <yousuc> im using 16.04.4 on my workstation, and trying 18.04 on my alienware laptop
[06:23] <alkisg> I've installed 18.04 in 4 schools so far, for production use :D
[06:23] <alkisg> Maybe I'm too risky :P
[06:23] <yousuc> yeah back when i had 18.04 on my workstation was just fine
[06:23] <yousuc> but between developing and testing and such
[06:24] <yousuc> finally just stayed on 16.04 for now
[06:24] <yousuc> and took a break from gnome3
[06:25] <yousuc> i have a couple servers running 18.04 in production, they runnin smooth as silk
[06:27] <yousuc> looks like about 5 minutes left on that download
[06:28] <alkisg> Fortunately the work internet connection is quite fast, both download/upload :)
[06:28] <alkisg> So it's limited by your download speed
[06:28] <yousuc> im on gigabit here
[06:29] <yousuc> but im in the us
[06:32] <yousuc> ok looks like it is done now
[06:32] <yousuc> thank you again!!!
[06:32] <alkisg> Try md5sum
[06:33] <alkisg> c0a8d31cf063cd2c07292d1c9aa0865e  bionic-desktop-amd64[mate-daily].iso
[06:33] <alkisg> bcaffd6a68b6b4d6e6927b52b0e40e43  bionic-desktop-i386[mate-daily].iso
[06:33] <yousuc> c0a8d31cf063cd2c07292d1c9aa0865e  bionic-desktop-amd64[mate-daily].iso
[06:33] <alkisg> Cool, closing the server
[06:33] <yousuc> perfect :)
[06:34] <yousuc> writing to usb stick now!
[06:42] <yousuc> btw that version works perfect, installer did not crash!
[06:42] <yousuc> its almost done installing now
[11:55] <bikash> hi
[12:00] <kalinouz> bonjour
[13:35] <usrshv> Hi! My laptop work under nouveau driver. Do i need mate-nvidia-optimus turned on as startup application?
[13:45] <prateek> i
[13:45] <prateek> ok
[13:47] <DJGray> Greetings! New to Linux. Chose Ubuntu w/MATE desktop. Have tried repeatedly to get x11vnc to load with no success. Connection refused. Just completed fresh install this very minute. Is there an online tutorial that will walk me (new user) through getting a VNC server (any version) to install and allow me to run headless?
[13:48] <alkisg> If you want to run headless, install x2goserver, and use x2goclient from the clients
[13:48] <alkisg> VNC is usually preferred for sharing local desktops, not for creating virtual ones (it can be done, it's just harder)
[13:49] <DJGray> Thanks alkisg.  I'll locate a tutorial on x2goserver
[13:50] <DJGray> RE: your second message, I'm setting this up to learn. It's a box under my desk at work.  I'm a windows developer but want to learn Linux. Is x2goserver still my best option?
[14:01] <sixwheeledbeast> I use vino-server and Remmina as client, could you have firewall issues?
[14:02] <DJGray> Should be no firewall issues. All internal networking.
[14:03] <DJGray> If I understand correctly, Vino is installed with Ubuntu by default??
[14:03] <sixwheeledbeast> If not the network then maybe ufw. Install on Ubuntu possibly not Ubuntu-Mate
[14:04] <DJGray> With the x11vnc I was having diffitulty getting the service to run on boot.
[14:04] <DJGray> Remember, I'm a completely new Linux user. This is all new to me.
[14:04] <sixwheeledbeast> I think I have a startup applcation command to start vino on boot
[14:05] <DJGray> I'm fine with that.  I really don't care which service/server I use.  I just need to access it from my Winders desktop.
[14:06] <DJGray> Need to remote to it and learn while I do my "real" work in C#.
[14:06] <sixwheeledbeast> System > Prefs > Personal > Startup Applcations  -  may help?
[14:07] <sixwheeledbeast> Found this, not exactly how I did it but may help https://snarkybrill.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/running-vino-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-mate.html
[14:08] <sixwheeledbeast> I use VNC via SSH
[14:10] <alkisg> DJGray: it's a "box"? Is it a VM, e.g. virtualbox, or a physical box?
[14:10] <DJGray> Super.  I'll take a look at that
[14:10] <DJGray> It's a physical box under my feet.
[14:11] <alkisg> If you want to access linux from windows, x2go is an excellent option. VNC works too, either at the DM level or after that.
[14:11] <alkisg> But x2go should work with `apt install x2goserver`, while vnc needs manual setup
[14:12] <alkisg> Also, x2go is a loooot faster than vnc, when you're not on LAN
[14:12] <DJGray> Thanks to both of you for the great help.  I'll go work the issue and see what I can make happen!  Cheers!!
[15:56] <DJGray> Shazzam!!!  Thanks again to sixwheeledbeast and alkisg for your help.  Got x2goserver & client installed and it works beautifully.
[15:57] <sixwheeledbeast> np
[15:59] <DJGray> New (simple) question: Do I need to register for this IRC?  I did not see that option.  There is a checkbox for a password, but I never registered.
[16:13] <sixwheeledbeast> password would be for private channels.
[16:13] <sixwheeledbeast> you can register your nick if not taken.
[22:05] <sebastian|62417> Hello everyone
[22:06] <sebastian|62417> Does anybody know a bit about hardware issues? I'm trying to game on Ubuntu Mate, and it doesn't work very well. When I went into the system specifications of the welcome screen, it says that my CPU has 2.7 Ghz. It actually has 3.4Ghz though?
[22:09] <kernal> is 3.4Ghz it's turbo frequency?
[22:10] <sebastian|62417> Uhm. I don't think so. Let me check
[22:10] <kernal> what model is your cpu?
[22:11] <sebastian|62417> AMD Phenom X4 965
[22:12] <sebastian|62417> phenom II x4
[22:14] <sebastian|62417> I don't think it has a turbo function
[22:16] <kernal> yeah, I assumed you had in an intel chip
[22:16] <sebastian|62417> It's also strange, because Windows is showing the correct 3.4 Ghz in the system info dialogue.
[22:22] <sixwheeledbeast> what's wrong with your gaming?
[22:23] <sebastian|62417> I have FPS drops in CS:GO
[22:24] <sixwheeledbeast> so that is more likely a GPU issue?
[22:24] <sebastian|62417> There are no drops in the windows version, at least not to visible levels. On linux I'm getting drops to ~20fps every now and then.
[22:25] <sebastian|62417> I don't know whether it's CPU or GPU related tbh. But I installed the proprietary drivers for my GPU, and then I saw that ubuntu reads my CPU as 2.7Ghz instead 3.4, so I assumed that might be the problem.
[22:26] <sixwheeledbeast> Probably not, yeah a Phenom x4 965 would be 3.4
[22:26] <sebastian|62417> CS:GO is said to be pretty CPU-heavy as well. I also wouldn't mind getting all the Hz I payed for ;-D
[22:28] <sixwheeledbeast> I would try different drivers. What does cat /proc/cpuinfo show (plz pastebin)
[22:30] <sebastian|62417> https://thepasteb.in/p/48hYWyylzN8HR
[22:30] <sixwheeledbeast> I am a long time AMD user and have no issues
[22:32] <sebastian|62417> Wait a sec, maybe it DOES have 3.4 Ghz even here, but it doesn't show in the welcome thing?
[22:33] <sebastian|62417> https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBq883nvvh8
[22:33] <sixwheeledbeast> exactly my point. welcome maybe detecting it incorrectly. 800x4=3200
[22:33] <sebastian|62417> On the detailed page it lists as min/max 800/3400
[22:34] <sixwheeledbeast> there you go
[22:35] <sixwheeledbeast> you can also use the cpu monitor panel to see live freq. I would still think it's GPU if FPS.
[22:36] <sebastian|62417> Yeah, thanks for your help so far.
[22:36] <sixwheeledbeast> np
[22:36] <sebastian|62417> So you think it's a driver issue?
[22:38] <sixwheeledbeast> What about lspci | grep PCI this should show your GFX card
[22:39] <sebastian|62417> https://thepasteb.in/p/Mjhx8ggjZVrtV
[22:40] <sebastian|62417> I have a Nvidia GTX 570
[22:41] <sebastian|62417> https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQLGGElyKiR
[22:41] <sebastian|62417> This is from welcome -> detailed system info
[22:44] <sebastian|62417> I'm gonna play around with the driver settings a bit. But first I'll get a bit of sleep :-)
[22:45] <sixwheeledbeast> I would try game settings and drivers. I have a ATI card myself.
[22:46] <sebastian|62417> I already tried setting everything to the lowest setting in graphics. That shouldn't even be necessary though, as I get ~150fps in Windows.
[22:46] <sebastian|62417> Thank you very much for your advice!
[22:48] <sixwheeledbeast> how about different games? Let us know how you get on.
[22:51] <sebastian|62417> I haven't tried other games yet. I probably will come by next week. See you!