[00:00] <TJ-> airos: this appears to be it https://openbenchmarking.org/system/1110021-LI-INTEL808685/sandy/lspci
[00:01] <TJ-> airos: and that matches your dmesg log for the PCI device at pci 0000:00:1f.2: [8086:1c03] type 00 class 0x010601
[00:03] <airos> TJ-: if you want I can restart on the live cd and run lspci
[00:03] <TJ-> airos: this looks like somehow the SATA ports have been disabled, is that possible in the system's BIOS/firmware setup?
[00:04] <airos> TJ-: I will check
[00:04] <TJ-> airos: did the dmesg output report the ahci module loading? is it still loaded ("grep ahci /proc/modules") ?
[00:04] <airos> now
[00:06] <TJ-> airos: I've just checked and the ahci.ko module declares an alias that matches the device ID of the AHCI controller reported in that dmesg: "pci:v00008086d00001C03sv*sd*bc*sc*i*"
[00:08] <airos> TJ-: I'm in the BIOS, now, about the sata controller, everything seems to be up. I can choose the sata mode selection between ahci and ide
[00:09] <TJ-> airos: and it should be AHCI, which it is now I guess
[00:09] <TJ-> airos: the setup can see the hard disk in it's boot order options?
[00:09] <Sven_vB> TJ-, btw I solved part of the overlay mystery. I was sloppy about the version numbers. the overlay module seems to have vanished somewhere in the xenial updates. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tN8NDf45rB/
[00:10] <airos> TJ-: yeah the default was ahci. The hard disk is present in the boot order
[00:10] <Sven_vB> so I'll rebuild my live USB with Ubuntu 16.04, w/o the .3
[00:10] <TJ-> Sven_vB: that looks like a bug; unless the idea was to remove support for persistent installs. I wonder who'd be responsible since we're about to spin the 16.04.5 ISOs
[00:10] <TJ-> nacc: ^^^^^^ any ideas
[00:11] <nacc> TJ-: 16.04.4, sil2100 is doing it
[00:11] <nacc> TJ-: i have a foggy memory of overlay or aufs replacing one or the other
[00:11] <TJ-> airos: Well, the only other thing I can think of is you're some custom rules in /etc/modprobe.d/ that is blacklist-ing ahci module (since it should load automatically)
[00:11] <nacc> i recall some config issues in one of my upgrades with my sbuild stuff
[00:11] <Sven_vB> I'll ko-grep for aufs
[00:11] <TJ-> nacc: thanks :)
[00:12] <nacc> TJ-: np
[00:12] <nacc> Sven_vB: iirc, they provide equivalent functionality, but i've not looked closely
[00:12] <Sven_vB> aufs seems to be in all images that I have. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jgt2m8vnQg/
[00:12] <TJ-> Sven_vB: hopefully that'll help you - you might find sil3100 in #ubuntu-devel at some point
[00:12] <TJ-> sil2100 even!
[00:13] <airos> TJ-: so I reboot with the live cd to check ?
[00:13] <Sven_vB> TJ-, I'll just try with the older ISO and maybe it works.
[00:13] <TJ-> nacc: it seems to have broken the live ISO persistence feature
[00:13] <TJ-> airos: yes, since the LiveISO sees the disk correctly doesn't it?
[00:14] <airos> TJ-: yeah it does
[00:14] <TJ-> airos: so there must be something in the installed OS that is doing something to the initrd.img that blocks that module loading, or loading but not finding devices
[00:14] <Sven_vB> TJ-, nacc, my failure case involves creating the live USB with unetbootin on a 32bit trusty. dunno whether that's a required condition for failure.
[00:14] <TJ-> airos: i suppose the module could be corrupt but I'd expect the kernel to complain in dmesg quite loudly if so
[00:15] <airos> TJ-: hummm yeah it should
[00:15] <TJ-> airos: we can check that once the LiveISO is booted and we can see the drive again :D
[00:15] <nacc> Sven_vB: TJ-: i don't have time to dig right now
[00:15] <aaashle> join
[00:15] <TJ-> airos: and you can grab an "lspci -nnk" for me
[00:16] <TJ-> nacc: no, don't expect you to, thanks for the pointers
[00:16] <TJ-> nacc but do you know which package to file a bug against for the liveISO images?
[00:18] <nacc> Sven_vB: TJ-: i supposed you could check those kernel's configs
[00:18] <nacc> for CONFIG_AUFS_FS and CONFIG_OVERLAY_FS
[00:19] <nacc> TJ-: i'm not sure livecd-rootfs is what actually builds them, i thoguth
[00:20] <nacc> TJ-: but i'm not sure where the bug is/why
[00:20] <airos_livecd> TJ-, https://pastebin.com/npNDzQgg
[00:20] <TJ-> nacc: right, I just noticed that one , so we can report a bug
[00:20] <nacc> TJ-: you might start with #ubuntu-kernel
[00:20] <TJ-> Sven_vB: ^^^^^^
[00:20] <nacc> TJ-: and see if it's a 'known' issue or so?
[00:21] <TJ-> I suppose it could be 'casper' as its the casper persistent feature
[00:22] <nacc> yeah
[00:22] <TJ-> Sven_vB: aha!! Bug #1279106
[00:23] <TJ-> airos_livecd: Yay, that is the same lspci I found so I wasn't on a wild goose chase
[00:24] <airos_livecd> TJ-, nice ^^
[00:24] <TJ-> airos_livecd: once you've mounted the root fs, do "pastebinit <( grep -rn ahci /mnt/etc/modprobe.d/ )"
[00:25] <Sven_vB> TJ-, thanks!
[00:27] <airos_livecd> TJ-, the grep return an empty result
[00:27] <airos_livecd> TJ-, so no weird rule to disable ahci...
[00:27] <Sven_vB> however that bug doesn't mention a missing kernel module, and afais the patch isn't about that either
[00:27] <TJ-> airos_livecd: so nothing blacklist-ing it then.
[00:28] <TJ-> Sven_vB: it was my supposition based on what you reported that it was missing overlay but I may be incorrect
[00:29] <Sven_vB> well my ko-grep confirmed that the overlay(|fs).ko is indeed not present in the .3 iso
[00:29] <Sven_vB> …'s initrd
[00:30] <TJ-> Sven_vB: look at the other bugs too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper?field.searchtext=persistent
[00:31] <TJ-> airos_livecd: what is the liveISO kernel version "uname -r" ?
[00:33] <TJ-> airos_livecd: can you pastebin the current dmesg?
[00:34] <airos_livecd> TJ-, 4.14.0-kali3-amd64
[00:34] <TJ-> airos_livecd: so much different version that the installed one
[00:34] <airos_livecd> TJ-, https://pastebin.com/Ye87yKT9
[00:35] <TJ-> airos_livecd: let's try a wide-spread search for anything mentioning AHCI: " sudo grep -rni ahci /mnt/etc/"
[00:37] <airos_livecd> TJ-, empty...
[00:37] <TJ-> airos_livecd: this is getting weirder
[00:38] <Sven_vB> how do I determine the filesystem of a partition? my script has "LANG=C stat -f -c %T /dev/sdb3" which seems to have printed "msdos" in the past, but today it prints "tmpfs".
[00:38] <airos_livecd> TJ-, yeah ...
[00:39] <Sven_vB> oh and it's still a FAT32 partition as expected.
[00:39] <airos_livecd> TJ-, it can help you to know that the thing which break the system was a apt upgrade interrupted during kernel install because /boot was full
[00:40] <airos_livecd> TJ-, maybe the initramfs is breaked
[00:40] <airos_livecd> After this failed update, the laptop never boot again
[00:41] <TJ-> airos_livecd: we rebuilt them all, and the list of modules looks correct... the kernel and udev should automatically add the module matching the hardware at boot. We know that didn't happen, which is why I suspected a blacklist
[00:41] <airos_livecd> should I do a dpkg --reconfigure all
[00:42] <TJ-> airos_livecd: it won't help that I can see... you rebuilt all the initrd.img files 2 hours ago with  "update-initramfs -vu -k all |& tee /tmp/initramfs.log"
[00:43] <TJ-> airos_livecd: oooooo! idea! let me go check something
[00:43] <airos_livecd> TJ-, yeah but maybe update-initramfs is not consistant
[00:46] <TJ-> airos_livecd: nope, false alarm. I wondered if the /lib/modules/<version>/modules.dep etc weren't there but it seems they were - the only kernel version missing them was 3.13.0-128-generic
[00:46] <TJ-> airos_livecd: I've got the log file - it's consistent
[00:47] <TJ-> airos_livecd: the only possibility is the one I mentioned earlier - if you didn't correctly mount the /boot/ file-system into the chroot before running that command then the wrong initrd.img might have been loaded. Shall we check that?
[00:49] <airos_livecd> TJ-, hummm the file generated is supposed to be initrd.img-4.4.0-116-generic ?
[00:51] <TJ-> airos_livecd: "sudo mkdir /sda1 /rootfs; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /sda1; sudo mount /dev/mapper/saiph-system /rootfs;  pastebinit <( md5sum /sda1/initrd.img*; md5sum /rootfs/initrd.img* )"
[00:52] <TJ-> airos_livecd: the files generated are initrd.img-<version> for each kernel version.
[00:52] <TJ-> airos_livecd: hang on!! wrong command again :D
[00:53] <airos_livecd> TJ-, yeah, the date of the file doesn't seems good (22:00 but it's 1:53 now)
[00:53] <TJ-> airos_livecd: the last command should be "pastebinit <( md5sum /sda1/initrd.img*; md5sum /rootfs/boot/initrd.img* )"
[00:53] <TJ-> airos_livecd: this will help us check if you've got different files due to not mounting /boot/ correctly before update-initramfs
[00:54] <airos_livecd> TJ-, I juste rm -r * the /boot of the rootfs when /dev/sda1 is not mounted ... sorry
[00:54] <airos_livecd> TJ-, just before you send me the commands
[00:55] <TJ-> airos_livecd: ahhh foooey. Well, at least now there CANNOT be 2 sets, so let's create the chroot the correct way and regenerate
[00:55] <TJ-> airos_livecd: did you already configure the chroot like I described earlier ?
[00:55] <airos_livecd> TJ-, I'm currently doing it
[00:56] <TJ-> airos_livecd: Let me confirm the commands for you so I know it's done correctly
[00:57] <airos_livecd> TJ-, arf my live cd was not at the good timezone. when I'm chrooted I see that the last generated initrd is at 23:27 which is probably the time when we did it
[00:57] <TJ-> airos_livecd: "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /mnt/$n; done; sudo chroot /mnt" then "mount -a" at which point " ls -l /boot/" should list the vmlinuz* initrd.img* Symbol.map* config* files
[00:58] <TJ-> airos_livecd: do "grep boot /proc/mounts" to be sure the correct file-system is mounted too
[00:58] <TJ-> airos_livecd: I presume that should be /dev/sda1 /boot ?
[01:00] <TJ-> airos_livecd: you can then again do  "update-initramfs -vu -k all |& tee /tmp/initramfs.log"
[01:01] <airos_livecd> TJ-, http://dpaste.com/3ESAYD7
[01:01] <airos_livecd> TJ-, maybe I'm doing something wrong because I find myself with a shell like root@kali after chroot instead of root@saiph
[01:03] <TJ-> that us correct
[01:05] <airos_livecd> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xgykcyKNHt/
[01:08] <TJ-> airos_livecd: that looks the same as last time, and correct
[01:09] <TJ-> airos_livecd: did you confirm "grep boot /proc/mounts" in the chroot shows the correct partition ?
[01:09] <TJ-> airos_livecd: presumably /dev/sda1 /boot ?
[01:09] <airos_livecd> TJ-, it's strange, I have two initrd.img for the 4.X kernel: initrd.img-4.4.0-92-generic and initrd.img-4.4.0-116-generic but the update-grub onyl see the 92 one
[01:10] <TJ-> airos_livecd: in /boot/ is there a vmlinuz-4.4.0-116-generic ?
[01:10] <airos_livecd> TJ-, no
[01:11] <TJ-> airos_livecd: that explains it then! do "apt --reinstall install linux-image-4.4.0-116-generic"
[01:14] <airos_livecd> TJ-, ok I regenerated everything, time to reboot?
[01:14] <TJ-> airos_livecd: yes :D I'm going to dive into the shower whilst you do :p
[01:15] <Sven_vB> with the older xenial ISO I managed to reached the systemd outputs stage, and now it's at a stage where the screen constantly changes between black and a very dark gray. the effect is similar to one I had when booting the 32bit xenial from disk, it was a gnome session crashing in a loop because it tried to use some 3D feature. I solved that by switching to xfce, but how to fix it on the live USB? it doesn't even have network at this
[01:15] <Sven_vB> stage.
[01:17] <OerHeks> !info games-finest
[01:18] <Sven_vB> back again, hope I haven't missed the answer.
[01:19] <Sven_vB> of course I could chroot into my casper-rw and install xfce. I'd prefer a less invasive approach though.
[01:19] <OerHeks> installed size 13 gb ...
[01:19] <OerHeks> oh the package itself
[01:21] <airos> TJ-: After the reboot, the 4.4.0-116was not in the advanced list...it still doesn't work. I will investigate this tomorow, I need to sleep. Thanks a lot for the long time you dedicated to me. Have a nice day
[01:21] <TJ-> airos: thanks, and keep us updated on this one!
[01:22] <TJ-> airos: are any other (USB?) devices attached when you boot the laptop?
[01:22] <jkdr_> In Ubuntu's /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.1.1   --  and it's really slow to resolve domain names to ip addresses, a few seconds before ping starts.  However if I change to nameserver 8.8.8.8, resolving domain names to ip address is instantaneous.
[01:22] <TJ-> airos: wondering if it could be reading the boot loader from a different device
[01:22] <airos> TJ-: yes the live key was plugged
[01:23] <TJ-> airos: try booting it without anything else connected
[01:23] <airos> I will
[01:23] <airos> thanks
[01:23] <jkdr_> Is there a way I can somehow make the 127.0.1.1 nameserver faster?
[01:24] <TJ-> jkdr_: the localhost dns server is set with the upstream DNS servers your gateway provides (usually via DHCP), which might in turn be using your ISPs DNS servers
[01:28] <TJ-> jkdr_: if you're using Network Manager you can check which DNS servers have been provided with "cat $(ls -1tr  /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient* |  tail -1 )"
[01:29] <TJ-> jkdr_: look at the "option domain-name-servers"
[01:38] <Sven_vB> :/ tried in another computer that has 3D graphics but the graphical session still gets stuck right when it should start. screen is dark gray for several minutes now.
[01:48] <Sven_vB> time to give up. maybe it'll work tomorrow.
[01:50] <babahulk> hello
[01:50] <babahulk> Just a stupid question
[01:50] <babahulk> My keyboard every so often decides to type a ton of letters at the same timeeeee
[01:50] <babahulk> like that
[01:50] <babahulk> has anyone ever seen this?  If I am typing a word it will extend the whole word instead of just a single letter as well
[01:50] <babahulk> this is just becoming so frustraaatinnnng annnndddddddd
[01:50] <Sven_vB> babahulk, could it be a mechanical problem? maybe a key getting stuck?
[01:51] <babahulk> It seems like it is more than a single key but every key every so often
[01:51] <babahulk> I tried chhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkking the repeat
[01:51] <babahulk> but it wasn't helping when removing
[01:51] <Sven_vB> is the keyboard connected directly or do you have some device like a USB KVM involved?
[01:52] <babahulk>  it is direct on a laptop
[01:52] <Sven_vB> the built-in one or via some cable?
[01:52] <babahulk> sometimes the backspace counts as the extra key as well so it will delete a ton instead of a single letter if I need it
[01:52] <babahulk> build it
[01:52] <babahulk> built in*
[01:53] <babahulk> tried turning repeat off completely instead of changing the delay to a higher amount
[01:53] <Sven_vB> try to attach a USB keyboard and check whether it occurs with that one as well. this way we can tell apart software from hardware problems.
[01:54] <babahulk> Ah that is a great Idea thank you!
[01:54] <babahulk> let me check it out
[01:54] <Sven_vB> yw
[01:58] <bobdobbs> Does ubuntu have a GUI for managing VPN connections?
[01:59] <bobdobbs> I tried using kvpnc but it crashes all the time
[02:05] <TJ-> bobdobbs: there are various VPN-type plugins for Network Manager
[02:06] <TJ-> bobdobbs: you can list what is available with "apt-cache search -n network-manager*"
[02:10] <noj_> am running out of space-for fresh install of ubuntu what would you recommend I do with the storage to get a mix of performance and speed with space i have
[02:10] <noj_> i have 3x1TB 7600 1x3TB 1x120GB SSD
[02:11] <noj_> dont mind partitioning and reordering what is where
[02:12] <noj_> currently OS is on 120GB
[02:16] <BillD73> noj_: how in the heck are you running out of space lol
[02:17] <noj_> rofl on my 120GB drive i am running out of space
[02:17] <noj_> personally would you bother about the os being on the ssd
[02:17] <noj_> is it bad for the life cycle
[02:18] <noj_> constant rewrites
[02:18] <asklah> hey, why has ubuntu 16.04 still libgcrypt 1.6.5 and not <1.7 ?
[02:18] <BillD73> wasnt that the intention of SSD drives for rewrite lifecycle?
[02:19] <asklah> pardon, >1.7
[02:20] <BillD73> I mean the one is this old ASUS Eee PC is a 128Gb SSD   the one in my tower is a 500Gb SSD  all my externals are IDE on USB
 i dont follow but you know better than i hence why i am here i digress
[02:23] <noj_> what is the best place to install my os on the ssd or a small partition on a IDE 7600
[02:25] <noj_> i intend to make a few partitions on the other HDD's for storage unless i hear a better method
[02:25] <noj_> i am a novice and value input dont assume i know please
[02:25] <BillD73> noj_:  personally OS to a 50Gb partion,  /homes on a 7 and then mount externals for storage but to each their own
[02:27] <noj_> do you think that 50 will cover room for addditional software (home user nothing fancy) and updates provided old backups are deleted
[02:28] <BillD73> noj_: i dont see why not  this isnt Micor@oft loaded with bloatware.
[02:30] <noj_> cool
[02:36] <noj_> i usually just follow the prompts re installing Ubuntu how do i separate where home is installed an os is installed think im right re resizing
[02:36] <noj_> think im right with the swapspace also
[02:37] <noj_> just not sure how to put os in one place and home in another
[02:39] <noj_> dont worry foound a page
[02:43] <BillD73> noj_: sorry am in an out   was going to tell ya to check this one out  https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-ubuntu-with-different-root-home-hard-drives/
[02:43] <noj_> thanks for your assistance and advice (not a problem google works fine dude)
[02:45] <noj_> will check out what you posted also thank you :)
[02:45] <BillD73> noj_: no problem
[02:54] <noj_> what is an AapImage file (etcher-burning software) says it doesnt require inatall to run ???
[02:55] <noj_> to be trusted
[02:58] <BillD73> noj_:  what are you on now?
[02:58] <noj_> this is the page id like to test on ubuntu
[02:58] <noj_> https://imgur.com/a/3zUrK
[02:59] <noj_> can anyone tell me better way to do it via software center
[03:00] <BillD73> sorry  since I left windows i just use dd in terminal
[03:00] <noj_> ive been warned about adding what i think this is a repository by ppl
[03:00] <noj_> this works on linux
[03:01] <noj_> it states in the line 'These are AapImage files and do not require installation on Linux distributions including Debian and Ubuntu.
[03:01] <noj_> '
[03:02] <noj_> have i missed something re AapImage files (hoodwink the novice)
[03:03] <BillD73> since I havent used them I would assume it means you can just run it from within the dir you extract it to    again  I personally prefer dd
[03:04] <noj_> im to scared of dd at this stage-have been known to incorrectly re-read lines lmao
[03:04] <noj_> i like terminal too
[03:05] <chisight> my old 16.04-2 build died and apt became too corrupt to recover.  rather than continue recovery attempts, i backed up and reinstalled.  i'm very unhappy with gnome and want my old desktop back but can't figure out which one that was.
[03:05] <chisight> how can i identify which desktop was installed when the backup image will mount but won't boot?
[03:08] <chisight> likely candidates are mate, kde, and lxde.  i don't know if that helps.
[03:08] <BillD73> noj_:  good dd tutorial here https://www.ostechnix.com/how-to-create-bootable-usb-drive-using-dd-command/
[03:09] <noj_> thank you
[03:09] <BillD73> chisight: i think the default desktop on 16.04 was unity
[03:09] <stiltzkin> Hi, hoping someone might be able to help me diagnose a stability issue I've been running into with Ubuntu Server. I posted about it in here a couple of days ago and the suggestion was to switch to the HWE kernel. Well, I've done that, and about 48 hours later the system has hung again. Would appreciate any help, thanks
[03:09] <chisight> BillD73: i know for sure that i wasn't using unity.  i remember installing it and immediately hating that.  not a fan of the apple look.
[03:11] <BillD73> chisight: couldnt say man, I have unity on my towe adn xfce on here
[03:12] <chisight> thanks BillD73. i was hoping that there was some file that i could read and see which command was being used, or some config entry that would be definitive.
[03:13] <Serisia> Hi folks
[03:13] <BillD73> you could persuse your hidden files .xxxx etc and see what ya come up with
[03:13] <Serisia> .xxx files?
[03:13] <Serisia> Is that for porn?
[03:13] <stiltzkin> This is really starting to get bothersome because I can't keep the system up for barely over a day at a time. It hangs to a black screen and neither resetting X (ctrl+alt+bksp) nor REISUB makes the system respond. I have to do a hard reset
[03:13] <chisight> hidden config files Serisia
[03:13] <stiltzkin> And this is a file server so hard resets = bad news for disks
[03:14] <Serisia> I think your storing porn
[03:14] <Serisia> Gross!
[03:14] <stiltzkin> linux isos :)
[03:14] <Serisia> Is it gay furry fart porn?
[03:14] <Serisia> Thats the kinda stuff im into
[03:14] <chisight> the latter.
[03:14] <stiltzkin> it's all richard stallman porn
[03:15] <chisight> lol stiltzkin
[03:15] <chisight> much better.
[03:15] <stiltzkin> lots of slowmo videos of him eating his toenails
[03:15] <Serisia> I am legion folks who
[03:15] <BillD73> stiltzkin: can you ssh in after it hangs?
[03:15] <stiltzkin> @BillD73, no.
[03:16] <BillD73> stiltzkin: syslog give you anything?
[03:16] <stiltzkin> Nope.
[03:16] <stiltzkin> there's some MCE messages at the beginning of the boot but it looks benign upon further research
[03:16] <stiltzkin> I also updated my BIOS
[03:17] <chisight> there's a process to set up kernel dumps and to read them.
[03:17] <stiltzkin> mce: [Firmware Bug]: Ignoring request to disable invalid MCA bank 10.
[03:17] <stiltzkin> ^ that
[03:17] <stiltzkin> but I don't think that's an issue actually
[03:17] <stiltzkin> I have kdump set up.
[03:17] <BillD73> stiltzkin: that could well be your issue. kernel was used to information coming in one way and bios changed it's output
[03:17] <Bashing-om> stiltzkin: nvidia graphics ? I did have same issue with nvidia card .. installing the proprietary driver resolved in my case .
[03:17] <stiltzkin> No, no discrete graphics card.
[03:17] <chisight> are you getting kdump files?
[03:18] <stiltzkin> I don't think I am because the system does not crash. It hangs
[03:18] <chisight> no panic?
[03:18] <stiltzkin> nope no kernel panics
[03:18] <chisight> any disk activity?
[03:19] <stiltzkin> I don't see any looking at the chassis - there's a general disk activity light and also individual disk lights for all disks in the array and I don't see any of them lit when it hangs
[03:19] <stiltzkin> I have noticed that the Num Lock light turns on when the system hangs
[03:20] <stiltzkin> That to me sounds more like something you'd see in a kernel panic
[03:20] <chisight> hmm.  is this a generic motherboard being used as a server, or a machine that was designed from the ground up to be a server class machine?
[03:20] <stiltzkin> But I haven't observed any. I see no panics in the logs
[03:21] <stiltzkin> Custom designed but it's almost all server class components. Server chassis, server motherboard, server HBA for the disks, etc. The CPU is a consumer CPU and not a Xeon, that's about it
[03:21] <stiltzkin> It's mounted in a rack
[03:21] <BillD73> stiltzkin: seriously leaning towards the bios update. if at all possible can you flash the original back to it  and check it out
[03:21] <chisight> any management port that might give you some status?
[03:21] <stiltzkin> Yes it has IPMI but I don't see anything logged there
[03:21] <chisight> ^^^ bios is sounding promising.
[03:21] <stiltzkin> @BillD73, this happened prior to the bios update. I only updated the BIOS to see if it would resolve this issue
[03:22] <stiltzkin> Which clearly it doesn't
[03:22] <stiltzkin> Previous BIOS was from factory
[03:22] <chisight> i'm not familiar with IPMI, but if it has increased logging that might be a place to start.
[03:22] <stiltzkin> There's nothing there unfortunately
[03:23] <BillD73> stiltzkin: what is the rack model
[03:23] <stiltzkin> HP G1
[03:23] <stiltzkin> it's a 42U
[03:23] <stiltzkin> yes I'm insane and have a full rack at home
[03:23] <chisight> g1!!!
[03:26] <stiltzkin> pic: https://i.imgur.com/B86iSeh.jpg
[03:26] <BillD73> stiltzkin: what ubuntu are you using?
[03:26] <stiltzkin> server 16.04 lts
[03:28] <stiltzkin> ideally this machine should be a fileserver only with no other software installed. But I haven't built a VM server yet. So this is currently an all-in-one
[03:30] <BillD73> stiltzkin: intel proc?
[03:30] <stiltzkin> Celeron G4400
[03:30] <BillD73> ok
[03:31] <stiltzkin> mobo: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C236_C232/X11SSH-F.cfm
[03:31] <BillD73> stiltzkin: take a look at this https://askubuntu.com/questions/803640/system-freezes-completely-with-intel-bay-trail
[03:32] <stiltzkin> hmmm I'm on skylake though
[03:32] <chisight> oh, wow.  so quite the combination of chassis and other hardware.
[03:32] <RA3OR> im on Haswell, does that make me old?
[03:33] <chisight> just mature.
[03:33] <BillD73> its referencing a c-state bug on intel processors with 5.x kernels
[03:33] <BillD73> errr 4.x
[03:33] <BillD73> typo
[03:34] <stiltzkin> https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2441458/intel-admits-to-skylake-bug-that-freezes-windows-and-linux-systems
[03:34] <stiltzkin> hmmmmmmmm
[03:34] <stiltzkin> well I'm not running prime95
[03:34] <stiltzkin> that's for sure
[03:37] <stiltzkin> well it looks like c-state is really just a bay trail issue, so I don't think that's it
[03:37] <BillD73> stiltzkin: still its a simple trial item until you can narrow it down more.
[03:37] <stiltzkin> sure I could try it
[03:38] <stiltzkin> I appreciate it. I came across that reading this post: https://askubuntu.com/questions/4408/what-should-i-do-when-ubuntu-freezes
[03:38] <stiltzkin> REISUB doesn't do anything unfortunately
[03:39] <BillD73> stiltzkin: all good things to know.
[03:40] <RA3OR> what about Prescott ?
[03:40] <RA3OR> (my older pc)
[03:40] <stiltzkin> lolol
[03:41] <stiltzkin> at least it doubles as a space heater right
[03:41] <BillD73> lol
[03:43] <stiltzkin> https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0515/88/1448782414455.png
[03:46] <RA3OR> lol BillD73, stiltzkin :)
[03:46] <RA3OR> yeah, thats why i love that little pc(the only one i talk with, of my 6 computers)
[03:46] <RA3OR> because i hugged it during cold winters
[03:47] <BillD73> haha  my laptop dont even get warm enough anymore once I removed windows off it
[03:47] <RA3OR> plus, it never failed me, it even ran hd movies, on abit ag-8 3rd eye mb
[03:48] <RA3OR> I had 8 fans in it
[03:49] <jdr> What laptop do you have?
[03:50] <BillD73> jdr: me?   Old ASUS Eee PC lol
[03:50] <jdr> niceee
[03:50] <RA3OR> i have a lenovo x240
[03:51] <BillD73> once i pulled unity off it an got xfce on it it runs good  video aint great but it plays
[03:51] <RA3OR> and a lenovo x60s
[03:51] <jdr> I've tried to love or even like unity.
[03:51] <jdr> I always switch back to xfce.
[03:51] <BillD73> i like it as long as the hardware can keep up
[03:52] <Denisi> Hello my brothers
[03:52] <jdr> What up bruh?
[03:52] <RA3OR> and desktop pcs, i have: p4 sk478 @1400mhz, p4 sk478 @ 2800mhz, amd athlon xp @1700+, p4 Ht@2800, i5 Haswell
[03:53] <Denisi> Look at this fucking nerd babbling
[03:53] <RA3OR> where? :o
[03:53] <jdr> I've used macbooks for the last 6-7 years. I just tunnel a vncserver/xfce session over ssh, so its *kind* of like running linux on my macbook :D
[03:53] <RA3OR> eeewwww, nerdsssss (says the blondie)
[03:53] <Denisi> I was porn on my phone
[03:53] <Denisi> Watch*
[03:54] <RA3OR> :o
[03:54]  * RA3OR watches his timepiece
[03:54] <RA3OR> :) ok, back to work, hf
[03:54] <Denisi> Can i post links to some things i was watching?
[03:54] <jdr> Probably not the best idea in here Denisi
[03:55] <Denisi> Can i send you some in PM
[03:55] <jdr> nope.
[03:56] <Denisi> Alright i get it your mother is home
[03:56] <Denisi> Ok maybe later then
[03:56] <RA3OR> apply cold water
[03:56] <Denisi> I am actually watching some right now
[03:57] <jdr> You know darn well that I am in your moms bed at this moment.
[03:57] <Denisi> It is the real kinky stuff
[03:57] <RA3OR> mega burn
[03:57] <Denisi> You can have her idc
[03:57] <Denisi> I used her last night
[03:57] <Denisi> Ao like
[03:57] <Denisi> So like
[03:57] <RA3OR> how old is she, Denisi ?
[03:57] <Denisi> She is 27
[03:57] <RA3OR> practily a teen
[03:57] <Denisi> I am 18
[03:58] <Denisi> So like
[03:58] <Denisi> It was legal
[03:58] <RA3OR> so, you're a girl
[03:58] <Denisi> What the fuck no im a boy you degenerate
[03:58] <RA3OR> are you, now?
[03:58] <Denisi> Yee
[03:58] <Denisi> I have a ding dong
[03:59] <RA3OR> come closer, let me warm u up with my Prescott
[03:59] <RA3OR> are you sure thats your ding dong?
[03:59] <Denisi> That sounds a little gay
[03:59] <Denisi> Yee
[03:59] <RA3OR> it tickles
[03:59] <Denisi> Not my dads
[03:59] <Denisi> His is wrinkly and old
[03:59] <Denisi> He is 73
[03:59] <BillD73> what the hell
[03:59] <RA3OR> :)))
[03:59] <BillD73> !ops
[04:00] <Denisi> Yea he was 50 something and my mom was 9
[04:00] <Denisi> She doesnt like to talk about it
[04:00] <RA3OR> Denisi, shush or run
[04:00] <jdr> Thank you BillD73
[04:00] <Denisi> !ops
[04:00]  * RA3OR goes dark
[04:00] <Denisi> Cool
[04:00] <Denisi> !ops
[04:00] <Denisi> Dang
[04:00] <Denisi> Well anyways
[04:00] <Denisi> Long story shot
[04:00] <Denisi> Short*
[04:00] <Denisi> He qas black
[04:00] <Denisi> And he pulled the race card
[04:01] <RA3OR> m'kay
[04:01] <Denisi> So he was found not guilty
[04:01] <krytarik> Denisi: This is Ubuntu support..
[04:01] <Denisi> Oh
[04:01] <Denisi> I thought it was for general support
[04:01] <RA3OR> he dang messed up
[04:01] <Denisi> With like anxiety
[04:01] <Denisi> And depression
[04:01] <krytarik> Nooope!
[04:01] <Denisi> Hey are you that one fucking cunt who banned me
[04:01] <Denisi> In another channel
[04:01] <RA3OR> :o
[04:02] <Denisi> Fuck you
[04:02] <RA3OR> what a mouth
[04:02] <Denisi> I hate u
[04:02] <Denisi> So much
[04:02] <RA3OR> right now?
[04:02] <Denisi> Whiny lil bitch
[04:02] <jdr> who comes here and starts drama in a linux channel?
[04:02] <Denisi> Im not
[04:02] <Denisi> U r
[04:02] <RA3OR> Denisi ofc
[04:02] <Denisi> Im from 8chan
[04:02] <Denisi> Land of the free
[04:02] <Denisi> Home of the free
[04:02]  * RA3OR everybody points at Denisi
[04:02] <krytarik> Denisi: Do you mind to stop this?
[04:03] <Denisi> But why
[04:03] <RA3OR> clearly, you didnt have a Prescott to keep u warm
[04:03] <Denisi> 🍤
[04:03] <RA3OR> we all wanna ban you, Denisi
[04:03] <Denisi> ;-;
[04:04] <Denisi> Thats homophobic
[04:04] <RA3OR> m'kay, im busy
[04:04] <Denisi> Alright baby
[04:04] <Denisi> Have fun ♡
[04:05] <jdr> We need a crowd banning option.
[04:06] <jdr> X amount of people !ban user, and they get a temporary 20 minute ban
[04:06] <BillD73> i put it on ignore
[04:07] <jdr> That works too Bill
[04:12] <BillD73> stiltzkin: anything new?
[04:18] <stiltzkin> @BillD73, I'm out of leads here :/
[04:19] <BillD73> did you try that grub edit?
[04:21] <stiltzkin> I have not yet but I will
[04:22] <bz-> hi, i am attempting to install mysql server 5.7 on ubuntu 17.10, and i get the following error
[04:22] <bz-> mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.7; however:
[04:22] <bz->   Package mysql-server-5.7 is not configured yet.
[04:22] <bz-> any idea what this may relate to? the mysql guys told me it's ubuntu related...
[04:25] <jdr> Is mysql-server already installed?
[04:30] <bz-> no
[04:30] <bz-> but
[04:30] <bz-> i had mariadb installed, and i uninstalled it
[04:30] <bz-> then attempted to install mysql
[04:30] <bz-> and get the error all the time
[04:31] <jdr> with just mysql?
[04:31] <bz-> yes
[04:33] <jdr> what does dmesg | grep mysql show
[04:34] <bz-> nothing
[04:35] <BillD73> are pretty much all distro migrating to MariaDB due to ORacle buying mysql?
[04:36] <jdr> what about dpkg -l | grep mysql
[04:36] <kk4ewt> BillD73,  yes
[04:37] <bz-> jdr: it lists a number of packages, however, i had previously removed them, and i think my very last command to attempt to install mysql-server caused those to show again...
[04:37] <jdr> purge that package
[04:37] <bz-> ok
[04:39] <bz-> done
[04:40] <bz-> my current running attempt is to use the directions from here
[04:40] <jdr> now dpkg -l | grep mysql
[04:40] <bz-> https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide/en/#repo-qp-apt-install-from-source
[04:40] <bz-> ok
[04:40] <bz-> shows nothing now
[04:41] <jdr> will mktemp -d create a temp directory for you
[04:41] <jdr> do a apt update
[04:41] <jdr> apt upgrade
[04:41] <jdr> and then apt-cache search mysql
[04:42] <bz-> ok
[04:43] <jdr> apt install mysql-server-5.7
[04:43] <bz-> apt-cache search mysql comes up with a number of stuff
[04:43] <bz-> ok
[04:44] <bz-> yeah...
[04:45] <bz-> vr/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst: line 143: /usr/share/mysql-common/configure-symlinks: No such file or directory
[04:45] <bz-> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.7 (--configure):
[04:45] <bz->  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[04:46] <bz-> i had previously gotten that error also
[04:48] <jdr> open that mysql-server-5.7.postinst file
[04:48] <jdr> comment line 143 out, the one that has the configure-symlinks line it it
[04:48] <bz-> ok
[04:49] <pZombie> hello friends
[04:49] <jdr> and then apt-remove mysql-server-5.7
[04:49] <jdr> and also dpkg -l | grep maria
[04:51] <bz-> ii  mysql-common                               10.1.26+maria-1~yakkety                      all          MariaDB database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql/my.cnf)
[04:51] <jdr> what is that from
[04:52] <bz-> no idea
[04:52] <bz-> remove it?
[04:52] <jdr> no what command
[04:52] <pZombie> I used the startup disk creator in ubuntu on a 8.04 ubuntu ISO file to get it onto a usb hdd. qemu -cdrom /dev/sdb boots just fine. However, using the usb hdd  on a laptop, i get "non-system disk or disk error"   Anyone know why? Other ISOs do work using the same method
[04:52] <bz-> dpkg -l | grep maria
[04:52] <Ben64> bz-: yakkety?
[04:52] <jdr> apt-remove mysql-common
[04:52] <Ben64> you said you were on 17.10
[04:53] <bz-> oh oops
[04:53] <bz-> my laptop is
[04:53] <bz-> this is a cloud server
[04:53] <bz-> sorry, got them mixed up
[04:53] <Ben64> yakkety lost support in July
[04:53] <Ben64> you need to upgrade it
[04:53] <bz-> ok
[04:53] <bz-> shall do
[04:53] <bz-> it's a digital ocean droplet
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !8.04 | pZombie
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> pZombie: long end of life
[04:56] <pZombie> lotuspsychje, yes, but this startup disk creator was used in 17.10, and i am asking about why it did not work
[04:56] <jdr> bz-, did you remove mysql-common
[04:57] <bz-> yes
[04:57] <jdr> now dpkg -l | mysql
[04:57] <bz-> by the way, the droplet is 17.10; however, that comment for maria db being yakkety apparently was related to the mariadb version that had been installed...
[04:57] <bz-> ok
[04:57] <jdr> dpkg -l | grep maria
[04:58] <bz-> both lists nothing
[04:58] <jdr> now see if apt install mysql-server-5.7
[04:58] <jdr> wait
[04:58] <jdr> do you have a /etc/mysql
[04:59] <bz-> no i don't
[04:59] <jdr> ok
[04:59] <jdr> then apt install
[05:00] <bz->  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:00] <bz-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:00] <bz->  mysql-server-5.7
[05:00] <bz-> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:01] <bz-> yikes.
[05:03] <jdr> ?
[05:03] <bz-> well...error.
[05:04] <jdr> what does /var/log/dpkg.log say in regards to it
[05:05] <bz-> 2018-03-01 05:00:06 status half-configured mysql-server-5.7:amd64 5.7.21-0ubuntu0.17.10.1
[05:06] <jdr> dpkg --configure -a
[05:06] <bz-> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.7 (--configure):
[05:06] <bz->  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:06] <bz-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:06] <bz->  mysql-server-5.7
[05:07] <jdr> apt-get install --fix-broken
[05:08] <bz-> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.7 (--configure):
[05:08] <bz->  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:08] <bz-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:08] <bz->  mysql-server-5.7
[05:08] <bz-> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:09] <jdr> apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.7
[05:10] <bz->  mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.7; however:
[05:10] <bz->   Package mysql-server-5.7 is not configured yet.
[05:10] <bz-> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server (--configure):
[05:10] <bz->  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:10] <bz-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:10] <bz->  mysql-server-5.7
[05:10] <bz->  mysql-server
[05:11] <bz-> sorry..
[05:12] <bz-> so are all options exhausted?
[05:12] <jdr> lets try a few more i just googled
[05:13] <bz-> ok, thank you
[05:13] <jdr> apt-get --auto-remove purge mysql\*
[05:13] <jdr> apt-get -f install
[05:13] <jdr> apt-get --auto-remove purge mysql\*
[05:14] <bz-> ok
[05:14] <jdr> rm -rf /etc/mysql* /var/lib/mysql* /usr/share/mysql*
[05:14] <jdr> apt-get clean
[05:14] <jdr> updatedb
[05:14] <jdr> and then see if locate mysql prints anything
[05:15] <bz-> just a bunch of files in /var/crash/mysql-5.7-5.7.21/...
[05:17] <jdr> try apt-get install mysql-server mysql-server-5.7
[05:18] <jdr> after that im done
[05:18] <jdr> did mktemp -d allow you to make a directory ?
[05:19] <bz-> yes
[05:19] <bz-> and by the way, error.... mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.7
[05:19] <bz-> i guess i need to kill this droplet, and create a new one, with assets lost.
[05:20] <bz-> weird.
[05:21] <jdr> yah
[05:21] <bz-> thank you very much
[05:21] <bz-> for the help.
[05:21] <jdr> sorry couldnt fix the problem
[05:21] <bz-> np..
[05:23] <herekun> bz-: jdr: rockcrawler: platvoeten: can anyone to help me with my storage?
[05:24] <jdr> bahaha
[05:24] <jdr> i installed mariadb-server
[05:24] <jdr> removed it
[05:24] <jdr> and then installed mysql-server....or tried too. Same error
[05:24] <bz-> yep. see..
[05:24] <bz-> really really weird
[05:25] <jdr> hey
[05:26] <jdr> mine said if i want to downgrade, remove /var/lib/mysql/debian*-flag
[05:26] <bz-> mine too
[05:26] <bz-> i actually ended up just reinstalling mariadb
[05:26] <jdr> di you remove it
[05:27] <bz-> and then removing it
[05:27] <bz-> then removing that flag file
[05:27] <bz-> and attempting to reinstall mysql; however, same issue
[05:27] <bz-> mind boggling
[05:32] <bz-> the reason i wanted to get on mysql and off mariadb, is due to the apparent ability of mysql having a function called ST_Distance_Sphere for the purpose of calculating distance using long/lat with spatial indexing; it appears mariadb does not have this capability (function)
[05:33] <bz-> anyway..
[05:35] <marrygrim> hello everyone.
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome marrygrim how can we help
[05:36] <herekun> lotuspsychje:  marrygrim: hello! can you help me?
[05:36] <marrygrim> I was looking for a buddy to talk to.
[05:37] <herekun> help me, please. I have home storage with my gay & furry porn, and I want to have best perfomance on it. now I use 4 3Par's with totaly 200Tb of space. I use ocfs2 and FC fabric to connect my home computers to it.
[05:37] <herekun> I use thunderblot to    PCI-e     adapted with fibr
[05:37] <herekun> echannel card to delivery my gay porn to my macbook pro. I use SAN on FC on Silkworms 200E as SAN-core; But now I think, that I need to move to Ceph on ZFS to best mobility and my integrity. I want to use "proxy" servers with FC connection to SAN and ethernet and infiniband connection to my LAN.
[05:37] <herekun> I think, that I can migrate my gay & furry porn to new FS over restore from tape LTO-6 backup. but it is a lot of work to do it. on my place what did you with your's gay furry porn storages? migrate from cluster FS to distributed FS or not?
[05:37] <marrygrim> 1. I have not been in this irc channel for some time and i FEel as if I need to be here. There is so much to relearn.
[05:38] <marrygrim> herekun, !!!!!
[05:38] <herekun> marrygrim: ?????
[05:39] <marrygrim> 200TB ???
[05:39] <marrygrim> hahah
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !ot | marrygrim
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> herekun: only ubuntu support here
[05:40] <marrygrim> I think herekun  is asking an honest but strange question, lol so how to move 200TB of his storages.
[05:40] <herekun> lotuspsychje: i use ubuntu as primary system. even on my macbook (to support ocfs2)
[05:42] <herekun> marrygrim: not how. but to which arhitecture?
[05:42] <marrygrim> lotuspsychje,  dont !ot me, so you can throw the book at me less then % mins here as a cheap response, unless your a AI bot...
[05:42] <herekun> marrygrim: and what is stange in my question?
[05:42] <unicornjedi> hello, I recently upgraded to ubuntu 17.10 and I am having random system freezes... Like my keyboard and mouse don't work and my screen is frozen as well
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | herekun
[05:43] <marrygrim> I can fix this better over discord. pm me please if you want help.
[05:43] <marrygrim> herekun,
[05:44] <herekun> marrygrim: em. I don't use discord. why you cannot write here?
[05:45] <marrygrim> trying to troll the channel herekun
[05:46] <marrygrim> so what is a hwb kernal?
[05:47] <rekun> marrygrim: i'm here.
[05:47] <marrygrim> I saw this in the newer installs on the server side
[05:47] <marrygrim> is this on the desktop too?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> marrygrim: only ubuntu support here please
[05:47] <kitkatz0013> Hello?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> marrygrim: for chat, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <marrygrim> >:(
[05:48] <unicornjedi> but I have ubuntu desktop :(
[05:48] <marrygrim> lotuspsychje,  you getting frustrating to talk to.  I just asked you a ubuntu support question about kernals.
[05:50] <rekun> unicornjedi: and i have! how did you store your gay furry porn ? you SAN or NAS?
[05:51] <rekun> *uses
[05:51] <unicornjedi> rekun: say wuhh.. I use samba like a newb
[05:51] <segersjerry> hahhahhahaha
[05:51] <marrygrim> whas s san?
[05:51] <segersjerry> unicornjedi, non-native speaker, I'm guessing.
[05:52] <unicornjedi> segersjerry: I speak english but my linguistics are poor.
[05:53] <unicornjedi> lol
[05:53] <unicornjedi> how do I stop the freezes plz halp, I have my log's open yo
[05:54] <segersjerry> unicornjedi, he used inference that you had a collection of gay furry porn. All given answers imply that he was correct. For example, "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
[05:55] <unicornjedi> I don't watch gay furry porn. I watch straight furry porn. rude!
[05:55] <nacc> marrygrim: hwe, you mean?
[05:55] <nacc> unicornjedi: segersjerry: please stop.
[05:55] <el> lets go back to on topic discussions shall we
[05:55] <segersjerry> k
[05:56] <unicornjedi> nacc: plz halp...
[05:56] <nacc> unicornjedi: if it's quick, i can try; but i'm past my end-of-day
[05:57] <marrygrim> nacc yes. what is it. i read already but i dont fully understad it.
[05:57] <nacc> !hwe | marrygrim
[05:58] <nacc> marrygrim: it's effecitvley a backport of the newer kernel and X from the later releases to the LTS
[06:00] <garando> hi for all!
[06:00] <marrygrim> nacc, thanks whats  a back ort?
[06:01] <marrygrim> port
[06:01] <nacc> marrygrim: a backport is taking a version of something and making it available on an older release
[06:02] <marrygrim> nacc,  oh ok ! i think i better understand.
[06:03] <marrygrim> what is X support mean?
[06:03] <marrygrim> nacc,
[06:04] <nacc> marrygrim: X is the windowing system (graphics)
[06:04] <marrygrim> oh ok,
[06:04] <marrygrim> nacc,
[06:05] <MeaCulpa> could someone run that apt-get --fixbroken syntax by for me please
[06:05] <MeaCulpa> or am I right
[06:06] <marrygrim> sudo apt-get -f install
[06:06] <MeaCulpa> marrygrim, was that for me?
[06:08] <marrygrim> yes
[06:08] <MeaCulpa> thanks :)
[06:08] <marrygrim> going for a reboot.
[06:10] <kitkatz0013> Hello?
[06:11] <kitkatz0013> Is literally anybody using this?
[06:11] <MeaCulpa> yep
[06:11] <MeaCulpa> I think it's only a ubuntu topics channel
[06:11] <kitkatz0013> Well I'll be damned
[06:12] <MeaCulpa> not chit chat :)
[06:12] <kitkatz0013> I tried joining a bunch of different lobbies but didn't seem like any were active
[06:12] <MeaCulpa> means if you're in here your systems working so nothing to say
[06:13] <MeaCulpa> I can't even enter text in #html for some reason and I've yet to manage it
[06:14] <MeaCulpa> I think it's very late for most of the folk in here
[06:14] <kitkatz0013> It's almost 1:30AM here
[06:14] <MeaCulpa> are you in US?
[06:14] <unicornjedi> nacc: so you said you can hook me upppp
[06:14] <kitkatz0013> Yup
[06:14] <MeaCulpa> <Australia
[06:15] <kitkatz0013> What time is it there?
[06:15] <MeaCulpa> 17;15
[06:16] <kitkatz0013> What am I doing with my life?
[06:16] <kitkatz0013> pffft
[06:16] <MeaCulpa> Same as me :P
[06:16] <aaronstone386> i have gnome installed do you know how to get the gui what i had before with all the boxes on the left can i in stall it
[06:17] <MeaCulpa> you could try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <unicornjedi> soo... how do I figure out what's making my system freeze? Like the screen freezes along with my mouse and keyboard
[06:17] <aaronstone386> ok
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> guys stick to ubuntu support
[06:17] <MeaCulpa> no guarantees
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> no chitchat here
[06:17] <unicornjedi> I need a supporter though
[06:17] <unicornjedi> plz support this poor boi
[06:18] <kitkatz0013> Do you have any additional drivers you could install?
[06:18] <aaronstone386> do i neet to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or no?
[06:18] <MeaCulpa> yep
[06:18] <unicornjedi> aaronstone386: me?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> unicornjedi: please dont flood for help
[06:18] <MeaCulpa> sort of goes without saying
[06:19] <aaronstone386> metaculpa
[06:19] <aaronstone386> yes ok let me try
[06:19] <MeaCulpa> aaronstone386, it's sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <kitkatz0013> Why does Linux hate Broadcom drivers so much?
[06:21] <MeaCulpa> try googling it or duckduckgo
[06:22] <MeaCulpa> works for me
[06:22] <aaronstone386> i have a broadcom driver ubuntu woulnt work on it i had to get linux mint and 32 bit and xfce i called the computer company and they told me which linux to install the procesor in a 32 bit system is 64 bit but it wont run the 64 bit
[06:22] <MeaCulpa> is it a 64bit computer?
[06:22] <aaronstone386>    │   │ A display manager is a program that provides graphical login              │   │ capabilities for the X Window System.                                     │   │                                                                           │   │ Only one display manager can manage a given X server, but multiple        │   │ display manager packages are installed. Please select which display       │   │ 
[06:23] <kitkatz0013> I'd use Ubuntu 16.04 if I were you
[06:23] <MeaCulpa> yep good plan
[06:23] <aaronstone386> gdm3 or lightdm?
[06:24] <aaronstone386> no i have another computer with broadcom
[06:24] <MeaCulpa> there is a budgie desktop thats quite nice you can google where to download and how
[06:24] <MeaCulpa> you have to add a repository but the instructions are all there
[06:25] <aaronstone386> ok its saying gdm3 or lightdm is the lightdm what im installing?
[06:25] <kitkatz0013> gdm3
[06:25] <MeaCulpa> just google "install budgie desktop on ubuntu"
[06:25] <aaronstone386>  and is the gdme the gnome?
[06:25] <aaronstone386> gdm3?
[06:25] <MeaCulpa> I'm not sure
[06:25] <aaronstone386> ok
[06:25] <MeaCulpa> I use the unity one
[06:26] <kitkatz0013> when I chose lightdm switching to gnome it screwed up my whole desktop
[06:26] <MeaCulpa> it comes with 16.04 and its good
[06:26] <kitkatz0013> Unity is honestly underrated
[06:26] <MeaCulpa> 16.04 has the best support
[06:26] <aaronstone386> it completley says configuring lightdm so i will pick that after i used install ubuntu-desktop[
[06:26] <MeaCulpa> I prefer unity but I don't know about a how to install location
[06:27] <MeaCulpa> thats why I suggested budgie
[06:27] <MeaCulpa> I guess it depends how far you've gone with your current distro
[06:28] <MeaCulpa> you'll be able to switch desktops if you have more than one when you log in
[06:28] <aaronstone386> ive never used budgie or unity
[06:28] <kitkatz0013> Unity is the best bet
[06:28] <MeaCulpa> I think you'll prefer unity
[06:28] <kitkatz0013> Most support
[06:29] <aaronstone386> i guess what i was trying to ask was how to find lightdm
[06:29] <aaronstone386> its literally install ubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <aaronstone386> but have you ever tried linux-cinnamon its fairly good would i beable to install cinnamon on ubuntu?
[06:30] <aaronstone386> without linux mint?
[06:30] <kitkatz0013> Linux Mint is great and all
[06:30] <MeaCulpa> I can't say for sure but linux is linux
[06:30] <kitkatz0013> But in my opinion Ubuntu as an operating system "just works"
[06:30] <MeaCulpa> no harm trying
[06:31] <MeaCulpa> I agree kitkat
[06:31] <aaronstone386> i know the two systems use the same distros
[06:31] <kitkatz0013> Like literally the only distro I could get to use my Broadcom hardware was 16.04
[06:31] <MeaCulpa> what version do you have aaronstone386
[06:31] <kitkatz0013> and I tried like 10 distros
[06:32] <MeaCulpa> I've updated my kernel with no problems at all
[06:32] <MeaCulpa> so most things must be compatible on linux
[06:32] <aaronstone386> i would have ubuntu on this other broadcom system but it dosent work its not compatible neither does the windows that came with it neither does a dual boot the opnly thing i can do is linux-mint
[06:32] <kitkatz0013> Wot?
[06:32] <MeaCulpa> what sort of computer aaron
[06:32] <MeaCulpa> is it old?
[06:33] <MeaCulpa> like 32 bit
[06:33] <aaronstone386> but th e mint has the programs the wifi on it i had to mod it before to use the wifi i was running ubuntu i got i t modded them it crashed the compuetr company said xfce would be best on a 32 bit
[06:33] <MeaCulpa> or is that 386 a hint :)
[06:34] <kitkatz0013> You could try a lightweight distro
[06:34] <MeaCulpa> I can remember paying 1500 bucks for a 486sx motherboard and drooling lol
[06:34] <aaronstone386> lol
[06:35] <aaronstone386> nbo because steam even works right now and im runing sonic the hedehog right now so im not
[06:35] <MeaCulpa> used to only take five minutes to open M$ works
[06:35] <aaronstone386> so the downloading is over im gonna sign out and back in
[06:36] <MeaCulpa> ok good luck
[06:36] <kitkatz0013> Good luck
[06:36] <MeaCulpa> snap
[06:36] <kitkatz0013> crackle and pop
[06:36] <kitkatz0013> reminds me I need to get Steam too
[06:36] <MeaCulpa> snap is quite a handy installer if you've got the room on disk too
[06:37] <MeaCulpa> Steam?
[06:37] <aaronstone386> the computer is a dell latitude d630
[06:37] <aaronstone386> yes
[06:37] <aaronstone386> i even got steam working on it now
[06:38] <kitkatz0013> Wait
[06:38] <MeaCulpa> not so primitive then
[06:38] <kitkatz0013> You're gonna use Steam on the Dell?
[06:39] <kitkatz0013> I mean I can't judge I'm literally installing it on my Mac so
[06:39] <MeaCulpa> what is Steam, excuse my ignorance
[06:39] <kitkatz0013> touche
[06:39] <kitkatz0013> It's a game client
[06:39] <MeaCulpa> ohh
[06:39] <Laconic> It should be fine to buy a soldering iron that says "lead free" if I intend to use it with led solder... right?
[06:40] <MeaCulpa> I use ubuntu in virtualbox on my mac, but presently using an acer laptop
[06:40] <MeaCulpa> I've almost converted completely to ubuntu but steve jobs has me by the short and curlies for this and that
[06:41] <MeaCulpa> using my phone with the computer for instance
[06:41] <kitkatz0013> I told myself using my iPhone with my Mac was the most amazing thing
[06:41] <MeaCulpa> dropbox gets around most of that
[06:41] <kitkatz0013> Then I remembered botnet
[06:41] <kitkatz0013> Privacy is king round these parts
[06:42] <MeaCulpa> is that a good thing
[06:42] <MeaCulpa> yeah I agree
[06:42] <aaronstone386_> ok
[06:42] <aaronstone386_> im back
[06:42] <MeaCulpa> I almost go ballistic with mum's windows box and the commercialism
[06:43] <kitkatz0013> Aaron what even
[06:43] <aaronstone386_> yeah so it had about 15 different os before the computer company suggested the linux-mint
[06:43] <MeaCulpa> did you get your graphics aaron
[06:43] <aaronstone386_> yes thank you
[06:43] <MeaCulpa> cool
[06:43] <kitkatz0013> The Dell has dedicated graphics?
[06:43] <MeaCulpa> ubuntu-desktop is the unity one apparently
[06:43] <aaronstone386_> oh yeah but its not nvidia ]
[06:43] <kitkatz0013> See I thought so
[06:44] <aaronstone386_> its a notebook
[06:44] <MeaCulpa> I'm on amd
[06:44] <MeaCulpa> built in graphics I think
[06:44] <aaronstone386_> this computer im on is a laptop and it is a 18.5" screen and ablu-rayplayer/computer
[06:44] <MeaCulpa> nice one
[06:45] <MeaCulpa> too expensive for me :)
[06:45] <aaronstone386_> i didnt know it was a blu-ray player for a long time :)
[06:45] <MeaCulpa> I don't think I've ever seen blu ray in action
[06:45] <aaronstone386_> so what other graphics did you want me to try meaculpa
[06:45] <MeaCulpa> addicted to the internet for everything
[06:46] <MeaCulpa> I was suggesting budgie
[06:46] <MeaCulpa> but I think unity is better myself
[06:46] <aaronstone386_> its good it has 16 mb memory i upgraded it new laptops probly have more
[06:46] <MeaCulpa> I have both installed
[06:46] <kitkatz0013> I think Gnome is ubuntu-desktop-gnome?
[06:46] <kitkatz0013> I dunno
[06:46] <MeaCulpa> a matter of taste I guess
[06:46] <aaronstone386_> it has two disc slots im running ubuntu on the second
[06:47] <MeaCulpa> you have windows installed too?
[06:47] <kitkatz0013> Oh good I thought I lost you guys for a second
[06:47] <aaronstone386_> i was running it on the first but i was to new to installing linux and it was shot  out so i just deleted the parititions
[06:47] <kitkatz0013> Eesh
[06:48] <MeaCulpa> I've heard rumours that ubuntu peeks over your shoulder when on the computer
[06:49] <MeaCulpa> doesn't really bother me
[06:49] <kitkatz0013> I heard the Amazon app is botnet
[06:49] <MeaCulpa> they collaborate I heard
[06:49] <MeaCulpa> amazon and ubuntu
[06:50] <kitkatz0013> Same here
[06:50] <aaronstone386_> steve jobs taught me linux on a 386 he would tell me wat to spell in the bow he had a 3.5" and a 5" disc drive on a hewlet packard with ubuntu wich he supported himself i also worked on apple2e with him for 8 years well first it was apple 2 then plus then apple 2 e we had tellcom on it and and apple 2 server in a lab at my primary school in N california 100 miles away from apple headquarters
[06:50] <MeaCulpa> I watched some interesting interviews with linus torvalds on youtube yesterday
[06:51] <MeaCulpa> he seems a nice enough regular guy
[06:51] <aaronstone386_> ok i already got nome is the budgie command?
[06:51] <MeaCulpa> he says he hates graphical
[06:51] <kitkatz0013> Should we open up a private chat?
[06:51] <rahul12789> #yocto
[06:51] <kitkatz0013> Wot?
[06:51] <aaronstone386_> yeah invite me and meaculpa
[06:52] <shiroininja> aw,  there goes my entertainment.
[06:52] <shiroininja> lol
[06:52] <aaronstone386_> we invented ios!!
[06:53] <aaronstone386_> we also invented messanger in the apple
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic guys
[06:55] <aaronstone386_> so what is the command for unity and budgie?
[07:00] <aaronstone386_> how can i remove the gnome graphics?
[07:16] <aaronstone386> wow this works great its still as choppy as before
[07:17] <aaronstone386> the backround is black now its telling me to kill all natilus...
[07:21] <ConsoleFx> I've been trying to run flash contents on firefox (ubuntu 17.10). Installed flashplugin-installer and found "/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so" is also present. Still I am unable to play flash based contents (e.g.: Amazon Music)
[07:21] <ConsoleFx> Any pointers, where I might be missing the direction?
[07:23] <baba_> flash player still works in linux?
[07:23] <ConsoleFx> baba_, Well many have blocked its usage at the first place but you can enable it as an on-demand basis
[07:23] <BMXfce> Installing .deb from terminal hangs, on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. I've read the forums on this topic and still have the same result. I did try gdebi as suggested in one post and have a Traceback.(?) All prior attempts resulted in closing the terminal and having to remove a lock on dpkg. Here is the result: https://gist.github.com/brads-git/24e4cad171406fb44477d144da00d800 Any ideas?
[07:24] <baba_> thank you
[07:24] <ConsoleFx> Shall I try installing pepperflash plugin?
[07:24] <ConsoleFx> package name: pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[07:27] <baba_> what is ##ubuntu...is that for off-topic?
[07:28] <MeaCulpa> baba, there's one way to find out :)
[07:29] <MeaCulpa> join and ask
[07:29] <baba_> thank you
[07:29] <MeaCulpa> np
[07:29] <hateball> ConsoleFx: pepperflash is for chromium
[07:30] <hateball> ConsoleFx: most browsers have made flash click-to-run, but that doesnt work with all sites, so you might need to whitelist them pre-emptively
[07:30] <MeaCulpa> firefox is set to ask when I wish to use flash
[07:30] <MeaCulpa> you may find a way to enable it in preferences
[07:31] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, yea I enabled the option to play flash contents. There are 2 options (Always activate // Always ask before playing)
[07:31] <ConsoleFx> I chose the second option though
[07:31] <MeaCulpa> still not working?? hmmm
[07:31] <MeaCulpa> yeah that works for me
[07:32] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, aah okay
[07:32] <ConsoleFx> :s
[07:32] <MeaCulpa> are you on 17.10?
[07:32] <ConsoleFx> yeah Its 17.10
[07:32] <ConsoleFx> I never had issues with 16 LTS though :s
[07:32] <MeaCulpa> I think 16.04 is a much more stable platform personally
[07:32] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, Can't agree more on this. Its true
[07:32] <ConsoleFx> 16 was faar better
[07:33] <MeaCulpa> nods
[07:33] <MeaCulpa> I had 17.10 and went back
[07:33] <MeaCulpa> no probs if you know where the stuff you want is to back up
[07:34] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, yea I am surely gonna do that. Its hard to handle 17 with so much of unstability
[07:34] <MeaCulpa> I do wish I'd installed ubuntu server straight up though
[07:35] <ConsoleFx> Too much unstable compared to 16
[07:35] <MeaCulpa> lots of messing around if you don't
[07:35] <baba_> 17 is sluggish
[07:35] <MeaCulpa> and you get better answers for 16.04 problems
[07:35] <ConsoleFx> its not limited to this flash issue though. I have been ubuntu user since a decade but never faced these much of issues earlier.
[07:36] <MeaCulpa> I just keep an eye on the new kernels and update as soon as they get marked stable
[07:36] <ConsoleFx> Most importantly its gfx sucks to the core. Pages scroll like tortoise though I have an nvidia 1gb dedicated graphics plus 32gb RAM!!
[07:37] <ConsoleFx> Its too much
[07:37] <MeaCulpa> I had all sorts of bother myself with bluetooth etc on 17.10
[07:38] <ConsoleFx> I've kernel 4.13.0-36-generic though
[07:38] <MeaCulpa> I have 1.15 something and its fine
[07:38] <MeaCulpa> 4.15 rather
[07:38] <ConsoleFx> Aah okay
[07:39] <MeaCulpa> is -uname the command to check it?
[07:39] <ConsoleFx> yep
[07:39] <ConsoleFx> uname -a is more verbose
[07:39] <ConsoleFx> otherwise uname -r is enough generally
[07:40] <MeaCulpa> 15.0-041500rc9-generic yep
[07:40] <MeaCulpa> lol
[07:41] <MeaCulpa> with a 4 in front, I didn't know the terminal window was dragged off screen a little
[07:42] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, hehe :P
[07:44] <MeaCulpa> it doesn't hurt to try the new kernels, you can always use grub to boot into an earlier one
[07:44] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, looks like thats the last resort left
[07:44] <ConsoleFx> else I would happily fall back to 16 and it would be once for all
[07:45] <MeaCulpa> I recommend trying it
[07:45] <ConsoleFx> not sure why the hell I tried upgrading
[07:45] <MeaCulpa> try updating the kernel
[07:45] <MeaCulpa> I can't remember the name of the site but you can google it
[07:46] <ducasse> !mainline
[07:46] <MeaCulpa> heaps of kernels there
[07:47] <MeaCulpa> I have very few issues with useability
[07:47] <MeaCulpa> I sudo apt update every day
[07:48] <MeaCulpa> so long as you check the upgradables in case you don't want something its good practice
[07:51] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, looks like I have the latest kernel patch though
[07:53] <MeaCulpa> can anyone tell me if "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/polaris11_me_2.bin for module amdgpu
[07:53] <MeaCulpa> is an issue I need to address?
[07:54] <MeaCulpa> system seems fine but on updating I get that line many times
[07:58] <ConsoleFx> Any idea which would be a latest stable kernel version for 17.10?
[07:59] <MeaCulpa> they have comments on the site I think ConsoleFx
[08:00] <ducasse> !info linux-image-generic artful
[08:00] <MeaCulpa> if they say its stable it generally is
[08:00] <ducasse> ConsoleFx: ^^
[08:00] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> by the way, if anyone is interested, I did find a webcam that works perfectly on ubuntu 17.10. Logitech C920, has microphone integrated (which works perfectly too, in combo with the webcam). Highly recommended if you are looking for a USB webcam
[08:01] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> It's a high quality webcam (1080p), so not for everyone. I was looking for a good quality because I live on the other side of the world and want nice video with family calls :P
[08:01] <ConsoleFx> hmmm okay
[08:01] <MeaCulpa> I'd hate to let my family know the horrible truth
[08:01] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> what truth?
[08:01] <MeaCulpa> what I look like after years of neglect lol
[08:02] <MeaCulpa> still I agree a good webcam is a must have
[08:04] <MeaCulpa> I bought a $4.99 smart watch and was bitterly disappointed with the camera performance
[08:04] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> LOL
[08:05] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I have a good laptop camera but it's on the side, and it's hard for both of us to fit
[08:05] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> not to mention the microphone pain
[08:05] <ConsoleFx> https://www.kernel.org/ it says 4.15.7 is a stable one. Probably I should upgrade to this version then!
[08:05] <MeaCulpa> tells the time ok if you don't mind charging up a watch every night
[08:05] <MeaCulpa> ooh ooh I can update again, I would go for it ConsoleFx
[08:05] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> this one has definitely paid itself back with the "hassle removal"
[08:06] <MeaCulpa> you can hold down shift while you boot up to get grub and use your old kernel if its no good
[08:06] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> you can hold shift on your watch? XD
[08:06] <MeaCulpa> or maybe its esc now one or the other
[08:06] <MeaCulpa> my watch has gone to one of the grandkids lol
[08:06] <MeaCulpa> lucky boy
[08:07] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, yeah :) lets see ifupgrading kernel solves the crazy issues
[08:07] <MeaCulpa> no harm in trying :)
[08:08] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, absolutely ;)
[08:09] <MeaCulpa> just don't let the smoke out of the box
[08:10] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, haha
[08:10] <ConsoleFx> time to reboot .. Hope I am safe lol
[08:10] <MeaCulpa> good luck
[08:10] <MeaCulpa> see you
[08:10]  * ConsoleFx will be back in a moment
[08:13] <MeaCulpa> wb
[08:13] <MeaCulpa> seems to work
[08:13] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, hehe thanks ;)
[08:13] <ConsoleFx> yeah the update worked safely ;)
[08:14] <MeaCulpa> I got that tip on Lynda.com
[08:14] <ConsoleFx> Gfx still *** sucks LOL
[08:14] <MeaCulpa> grrrr
[08:14] <MeaCulpa> bummer
[08:14] <ConsoleFx> dono why this major issue is still un-noticed!! Grrrr
[08:14] <ConsoleFx> nobody cares it seems :P
[08:14] <MeaCulpa> what is the issue?
[08:14] <PaulePanter> Hi. With Ubuntu 16.04.3, should holding the meta/Windows key (Super_L in xev) still show the help/shortcut overlay?
[08:15] <unicornjedi> hello again
[08:15] <MeaCulpa> try pressing it
[08:15] <EriC^^> PaulePanter: yes
[08:15] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, lets say you open any webpage via (chrome/firefox), the moment you scroll the page , the page would be scrolled after 1 sec duration haha
[08:15] <MeaCulpa> :)
[08:15] <ConsoleFx> so basically not a smooth scrolling experience at all
[08:15] <MeaCulpa> thats annoying
[08:16] <ConsoleFx> Yeah man!
[08:16] <MeaCulpa> what about clicking in the scroll bar?
[08:16] <ConsoleFx> Too much
[08:16] <PaulePanter> EriC^^: Understood. It doesn’t work then on the Dell XPS 13 9370 shipped with Ubuntu (adapted by Dell I guess).
[08:16] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, same. Makes 0 difference at all
[08:16] <MeaCulpa> ding dong dell
[08:16] <EriC^^> PaulePanter: does xev register it?
[08:17] <koenraad> hi all someone can help me to install grub-uboot on a raspberry pi with utbuntu-mate installed on sd card?
[08:17] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, the scroll works pretty well in terminal though ;)
[08:17] <ConsoleFx> that doesnt help much anyways at the EOD
[08:18] <MeaCulpa> Seems like a lot of bugs with dell and ubuntu, they must have a deal with bill gates
[08:19] <MeaCulpa> wouldn't surprise me
[08:19] <PaulePanter> EriC^^: Yes, Super_L.
[08:20] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, LOLz
[08:20] <EriC^^> PaulePanter: anything in settings > keyboard shortcuts
[08:20] <PaulePanter> EriC^^: I have to check. I’ll report back in 30 minutes.
[08:20] <EriC^^> ok
[08:20] <ConsoleFx> PaulePanter, I feel there is an option which could help you tweak the Super-L key combo
[08:21] <ConsoleFx> As EriC^^ said, you can check the keyboard settings page
[08:21] <ybaumy> hi. i have a strange problem. i configured ipv4 address and the address is reachable in internet. then i add my ipv6 address but the state is always down no matter what i do. this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HpWTXF7rDF/ is after the boot. no carrier and state down
[08:22] <ybaumy> any ideas? need more information -> ask
[08:24] <MeaCulpa> maybe the router is no good ybaumy...
[08:26] <ybaumy> MeaCulpa: strange thing is that the global address is not set. if i dont specify any link local address then no ipv6 is even configured
[08:26] <ybaumy> MeaCulpa: can that be that the switchport doesnt support ipv6?
[08:27] <MeaCulpa> maybe
[08:27] <ybaumy> MeaCulpa: but on my eth0 everythings just fine. global/link local all there
[08:27] <MeaCulpa> can you try bypassing it
[08:27] <MeaCulpa> I'm really more a hardware person than software
[08:28] <MeaCulpa> so I tend to look there
[08:28] <akik> ybaumy: do you get the ipv6 service from your own isp?
[08:28] <ybaumy> MeaCulpa: ok the server is at my provider so i have no chance in changing switch port easily
[08:28] <MeaCulpa> yep
[08:28] <ybaumy> akik: i got a /56 from my server provider
[08:28] <ybaumy> akik: its native not tunneled
[08:29] <PaulePanter> EriC^^: I got access to the device earlier. I do not find the entry for showing the overlay.
[08:29] <akik> ybaumy: ping6 doesn't work at all?
[08:29] <PaulePanter> Do you know under what section it should be?
[08:30] <unicornjedi> can someone help me figure out what is causing ubuntu to randomly freeze up? The screen freezes along with the keyboard and mouse
[08:30] <ybaumy> akik: ping6 works with eth0 and my main address. but the second interface wont be configured somehow
[08:31] <hateball> unicornjedi: check dmesg and ~/.xsession-errors, sounds like gpu driver bug to me
[08:31] <MeaCulpa> ybaumy you could look here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPv6
[08:32] <unicornjedi> hateball: whoa, this log is huuuuuuuge
[08:33] <unicornjedi> hateball: what am I looking for in the ~/.xsession-errors log?
[08:33] <ybaumy> MeaCulpa: would that change something if i would use dhcp on my own box and not static ip?
[08:33] <MeaCulpa> I really don't know
[08:33] <MeaCulpa> sorry
[08:34] <ybaumy> no problem
[08:34] <hateball> unicornjedi: well, anything that looks like an obvious error :D
[08:34] <akik> ybaumy: i don't have native ipv6, but a tunnel from tunnelbroker.net
[08:34] <hateball> !paste | unicornjedi
[08:34] <MeaCulpa> seems like an issue with dhclient.conf
[08:34] <EriC^^> PaulePanter: doesn't seem to be anywhere, does "super + a" open the applications menu and stuff?
[08:35] <ybaumy> akik: well i had that before too but not on that server. this one is new
[08:35] <PaulePanter> EriC^^: Found it under *Starter* (German): Key to display HUD: Alt L
[08:35] <unicornjedi> hateball: https://pastebin.com/SqXWNiad
[08:36] <dingir_> hi
[08:36] <dingir_> with what program can i monitor traffic on eth0
[08:36] <hateball> dingir_: depends in what detail you want, iftop is one way
[08:37] <PaulePanter> EriC^^: So Dell seems to have adapted it to not confuse converters from Microsoft Windows. I do not think that’s good though. But what can you do.
[08:37] <PaulePanter> EriC^^: Thank you for your help.
[08:38] <hateball> unicornjedi: nothing out of the ordinary at a glance. I should note I know very little about AMD tho
[08:39] <hateball> unicornjedi: what you could try is changing the opengl level used for compositing in kwin
[08:40] <unicornjedi> hateball: I am using like an old 3xxxx radeon HD graphics card with opengl 3.1
[08:40] <meteorx> hello
[08:41] <unicornjedi> hateball: thank you for the suggestion :)
[08:46] <dingir_> thanks
[08:50] <ybaumy> akik: i opened up a ticket with my hosting provider in order to figure if there is a probem with the switch pport or anything else
[08:51] <zhangwei> anyone?
[08:57] <rows> hi
[08:59] <rows> 第一次使用unbuntu
[08:59] <ducasse> !cn
[09:00] <rows> 哦
[09:02] <pagios> hello all, does anyone know of a good reliable digital signare software?
[09:02] <pagios> hello all, does anyone know of a good reliable free  digital signage software?
[09:02] <ybaumy> pagios: pgg?
[09:02] <pagios> whats pgg?
[09:03] <ybaumy> https://www.openpgp.org/
[09:03] <hateball> unicornjedi: I suppose you could try switching to opengl 2.0 in kwin, see if that makes it behave nicer
[09:14] <pagios> any recommened digital media signage software opensource project supporting chromecast as a client to stream content to tvs?
[09:16] <birgersp> pagios: I'm interested in that aswell. Would appreciate it if you say which one you find =)
[09:17] <MessiahT> LASTLOG
[09:19] <birgersp> I'd like to file an issue (feature request) with Ubuntu. Couldn't figure out how to properly do it, since the issue is somewhat in a "gray area".
[09:20] <birgersp> Nautilus file browser has replaced type-head find with searching, which renders it completely and utterly unusable for me.
[09:20] <birgersp> I've tried to file an issue with Nautilus, asking them to please re-implement type-ahead find but they wouldn't hear it
[09:53] <nino15> irc.explosionirc.org
[10:15] <ducasse> birgersp: if the nautilus devs won't implement it, there's not much to do. the ubuntu devs certainly don't want to add more ubuntu-specific patches.
[10:19] <birgersp> It's baffling to me, how the Nautilus devs claw unto the idiotic decision to remove type-ahead find.
[10:22] <ducasse> birgersp: the gnome devs are well-known for removing stuff users want, so nothing new there. not an ubuntu issue, unfortunately.
[10:23] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah that's why I went to kde years and years ago and never looked back
[10:23] <willc> So I think I completely fubard stuff attempting to get a remote display working through ssh. enabled this and that and before long, I get "cannot open display" until I run a bunch of stuff. startlxde-pi for example
[10:23] <willc> else it is non-stop, can't load idle3 from terminal because of display errors.
[10:24] <willc> is there a way to revert settings?
[10:28] <holden87> hi
[10:28] <holden87> anyone running 18.04 already?
[10:29] <holden87> is it somewhat safe to install already?
[10:29] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | holden87
[10:34] <lcb> Hi. Could you please give me a suggestion of a good slideshow with photo | video | audio |text capabilities, please..
[10:35] <lcb> I mean an application, of course :)
[10:35] <jink> lcb: I suppose OpenOffice should be able to do that?  Donno, realy.
[10:35] <jink> really*
[10:36] <birgersp> (wrt Gnome) currently, Nautilus is the only problem I'm having with Gnome. Anyways, thanks for letting me vent
[10:36] <lcb> jink, what I have to do today it's one of more that 200 photos and several video clips and LibreOffice Impress it's kind oh hard for a first timer.
[10:37] <lcb> *more than 200 photos*
[10:38] <lcb> jink: thanks anyway :) :)
[10:59] <energizer> alright so my computer is playing a sound every few seconds irregularly, sounds like a piano key alert
[10:59] <energizer> nothing shows up in pulseaudio
[11:00] <energizer> , on the playback tab
[11:00] <energizer> but i see it playing on the Output Devices tab
[11:01] <energizer> i have literally no idea what is happening
[11:08] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm attempting to learn the commands md5sum and sha256sum.
[11:08] <Richard_Cavell> As I understand it, when I download a file off the Internet that has a corresponding .md5 or .sha256 file, I can check that it's downloaded correctly.
[11:09] <Richard_Cavell> And I will use whichever program the file server has a hash of.
[11:09] <Richard_Cavell> Does that sound right?
[11:10] <frostschutz> Richard_Cavell, sure... as long as that file has a specific filename you didn't change, you can use md5sum --check md5sumfile and it will tell you whether the file is OK or not
[11:11] <frostschutz> Richard_Cavell, if you don't have a file with the hash sum, googling for the md5sum (or sha1sum, sha256sum) usually also finds a result for known hash sums
[11:13] <holden87> ducasse: nobody's answering, and before downloading media i would like to ask
[11:14] <holden87> since the feature freeze is today, i can expect mostly bugfixes until release day, so it should be somewhat stable?
[11:23] <stalion> how can i install wine on ubuntu 16.04 without errors
[11:28] <hateball> stalion: sudo apt install wine
[11:28] <stalion> it gives  The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine : Depends: wine1.6
[11:31] <stalion> i tried following this guide http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/11/wine-2-21-released-how-to-install-it-via-ppa/. but this also gives error The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:31] <stalion>  winehq-devel : Depends: wine-devel (= 3.2.0~xenial)
[11:31] <stalion> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:31] <Richard_Cavell> frostschutz, And am I right in thinking that md5 and sha256 are simply two different algorithms for mathematically transposing one source file into a single number?
[11:32] <hateball> stalion: PPAs are unsupported here. And why are you trying to install the -devel version anyhow? why not just winehq-stable ?
[11:34] <stalion> i didn't know the difference . sorry for that but now what should i do. i just want to run a couple of windows application on ubuntu and thats why i want to install wine.
[11:34] <frostschutz> Richard_Cavell, yes, different hash functions
[11:38] <Richard_Cavell> frostschutz, And is CRC32 also the same sort of thing?  (Although the command doesn't allow you to check)
[11:40] <frostschutz> Richard_Cavell, yes... one more ancient than the other. it's good enough to check for accidental corruption. not good enough if someone tries to maliciously give you a tampered file, as it's possible to make changes that produce the same hash. if you know more than one hash type for a file, check them both
[11:42] <Richard_Cavell> frostschutz, I'm not attempting to protect against an expert hacker, I'm just trying to ensure that downloaded files downloaded correctly.
[11:43] <frostschutz> tha's fine, just thought I'd mention it ;)
[11:43] <birgersp> What's the easiest way for me to install the version 2.4 OpenCV library? The current version on apt is 3.0
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:07] <hateball> stalion: you could have just used the wine version in the ubuntu repos. but now you added the winehq ppa, and if you want to use that I suggest you "sudo apt install winehq-stable"
[12:07] <hateball> stalion: the -devel is, unsurprisingly, geared towards wine developers
[12:08] <stalion> but it's giving me error . The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:08] <stalion>  winehq-stable : Depends: wine-stable (= 3.0.0~xenial)
[12:08] <stalion> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:10] <Guest90222>  the internet so slow  why?
[12:10] <Gargravarr> generally China DDoS'ing
[12:11] <Gargravarr> hi gents, having trouble with Xenial, getting an NMI warning about hard/soft lockup on boot from kworker
[12:12] <hateball> stalion: run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" first
[12:12] <Gargravarr> just after what looks like most of the services have started, the boot hangs, and getting warnings every 20-ish seconds about the lockups
[12:22] <stalion> still getting the same error
[12:27] <stalion> hateball: getting same error
[12:39] <janosch> \join tcs_reach
[12:40] <xiaomi> hello every
[12:40] <xiaomi> hello everyone
[12:43] <evg1790> hey
[12:49] <xiaomi> exit
[12:51] <hateball> !paste | stalion can you paste the full output after running your command
[12:52] <hateball> Gargravarr: can be CPU or BIOS bugs for instance. Is your BIOS updated? Have you install available cpu-microcode?
[12:52] <stalion> here is the output. https://pastebin.com/YmscvuzE
[12:55] <hateball> stalion: well, since PPAs are not supported here, I suggest you remove the winehq PPA from your sources, then update and install the version from ubuntu repos
[12:55] <hateball> stalion: otherwise ask in ##winehq as it's their packages not working
[13:01] <stalion> should i run sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa to do that
[13:04] <mkvrick> hello
[13:04] <abinash> hello
[13:05] <Gargravarr> hateball: yes, BIOS is up to date. i think it did install the microcode too
[13:05] <mkvrick> i am wondering where the linux builders hangout, which channel ? as in building programs from source.
[13:05] <mkvrick> hello abinash :)
[13:06] <Gargravarr> i'll chroot a live session and make sure microcode is installed
[13:08] <mkvrick> i guess there is no building channel
[13:08] <hateball> stalion: that's a way, sure
[13:09] <Gargravarr> mkvrick: there is, for building ubuntu - #ubuntu-dev
[13:09] <Gargravarr> but for non-specific development, you probably want to search elsewhere, this is kinda Ubuntu-specific :)
[13:10] <stalion> now running sudo apt install wine-stable gives unable to locate package error
[13:10] <hateball> stalion: because the ubuntu package is called "wine" only
[13:11] <mkvrick> i am at a loss of words to use for searching , which is why i came here to ask ... maybe ill google linux dev and see what it says
[13:11] <mkvrick> thank you for the answer tho Gargravarr
[13:12] <Gargravarr> mkvrick: do you want to build Ubuntu itself, the Linux kernel or an application?
[13:12] <hateball> !compile | mkvrick
[13:13] <stalion> getting new error , pasted here https://pastebin.com/sR8v49Nx
[13:13] <Gargravarr> hateball: huh, intel-microcode wasn't installed, trying that now
[13:13] <mkvrick> well i am trying to build a prog called mkvtoolnix, and then want to build a good tailor made linux kernel, maybe more
[13:16] <mkvrick> ah, yes, i have been using the gcc, which i did build (compile) myself. because not all pkg's are really up to date, although ubuntu seems to have the best repository
[13:17] <Gargravarr> you built gcc yourself? sounds like you ought to be running Gentoo ;)
[13:18] <mkvrick> haha, i thought about gentoo, but it seems if you update one prog, it messes with the stability of the rest
[13:18] <Gargravarr> no, that's Arch ;)
[13:18] <ioc_> ubuntu bionic has v19
[13:19] <Gargravarr> hateball: hasn't helped i'm afraid, gets to the same point in the boot sequence and hangs
[13:19] <mkvrick> i was using MinGW on windoze, gave error, so i installed Debian, same error, now with Ubuntu, same error .. so i better chat with some builders (develepers) is my guess
[13:20] <mkvrick> yeah, gcc is not an easy build, i started with v6.3 and latest was 7.2 works very well ! :)
[13:22] <ioc_> mkvrick, and they have ppa for xenial https://mkvtoolnix.download/downloads.html#ubuntu
[13:23] <Gargravarr> your best bet is to get in touch with the developers of mkvtoolnix, or try the PPA ioc_ linked
[13:25] <mkvrick> true, i can download precompiled ver of mkvtoolnix , but then it would not be optimized for my system like the rest of my toolchain
[13:25] <mkvrick> itis the last link of my toolchain that i have not already built with optimization
[13:27] <nils_> those "predictable network device names" are quite funny, two of my devices are named rename4 and rename5 ;)
[13:29] <BitByBit> Hu to all.. I need to install a usb modem driver on ubuntu 16.04 only terminal. Following a guide is said to perform many steps and I think this is concerning kernel features. 1) edit [KERNEL]/drivers/usb/serial/option.c, [KERNEK]/drivers/usb/serial/usb_wwan.c. But I canf locate these files.
[13:29] <rory> I've got some IRC log files, which for whatever reason, "grep" thinks are binary files, so I need to use "grep -a" every time to search them. Is there some way to strip out the characters causing grep to think it's binary?
[13:29] <gordonjcp> BitByBit: got a link to the guide?
[13:30] <nils_> BitByBit, yeah, you'll need to edit the kernel source for that and compile a new kernel.
[13:30] <mkvrick> thanks guys, hav a good day, bye
[13:30] <TJ-> rory: I've got a PERL script 'term-strip' I found at  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14684/removing-control-chars-including-console-codes-colours-from-script-output#14707
[13:31] <BitByBit> gordonjcp, ftp://77.47.193.10/pub/pavlov/Distrib/UnitedHelp/Datasheet/Quectel%20EC20%20-%20Multi-mode%20LTE%20Module/User%20Guide/Quectel_WCDMA%20LTE_Linux_USB_Driver_User_Guide_V1.5.pdf
[13:31] <TJ-> rory: that might help
[13:31] <ioc_> rory, change the first non-ascii bytes of the files to ascii with hexadecimal editor like hexedit?
[13:32] <BitByBit> nils_, this is too far for me.. it took to run buildroot?
[13:33] <nils_> BitByBit, I don't understand the question.
[13:33] <Gargravarr> rory: alternatively, use 'strings' to dump all the ASCII to a new file
[13:33] <Sven_vB> hi! stilly trying to install xenial amd64. now that the casper-rw problem is solved (by using the 16.04 ISO instead of 16.04.3), I get to the stage where usually (with xenial i386) the graphical session would start. instead, my screen flickers in an infinite loop. (black <--> darkgrey yesterday; today I tried with another graphics card so it's black <--> green and yellow stripes.) I guess this is the relevant syslog part.
[13:33] <Sven_vB> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zWx56PkX3g/ looks like the failsafe X script wasn't programmed really failsafe: failsafeXServer[3250]: /usr/share/xdiagnose/failsafeXinit: line 194: [: ==: unary operator expected
[13:33] <BitByBit> nils_, Could I buld only the kernel and put the Image and dtb file? All the rest can be the same with all the applications I already installed?
[13:35] <nils_> BitByBit, this may be helpful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel, however you'll be mostly on your own with regards to upgrades.
[13:36] <Sven_vB> rory, it may be about color sequences in the IRC log. try stripping them
[13:37] <BitByBit> nils_, sorry, I have difficulties to explain me well. I could also build a new kernel with buildroot, this is the simplest way the SOC producer provide to me. Build the kernel give me 2 files, Image and xxx.dtb that I put in the boot directory. Can I do this in a system that already exist without reinstalling ubuntu itself?
[13:37] <Sorfrost> TJ-, hey man, did you check the bug report? i did the apport-collect but i got 'PulseList: Error: command ['pacmd', 'list'] failed with exit code 1: No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.'
[13:37] <rory> it's not that, Sven_vB because it's not all log files
[13:37] <Sorfrost> TJ-, is it a problem? or that's enough informations to work on
[13:38] <robbinzone> hi all, I am trying to bind the command "xte "mousedown 1"" to <CTRL>Button1 via CompizConfigManager in Ubuntu, but cannot seem to make that key+mouseclick combination do the "click and hold" action that I need. Advice, anyone? (I have installed the xautomation package)
[13:38] <ioc_> BitByBit, depends if the kernel source was configured to produce modules, in which case they would need to be installed as well
[13:39] <TJ-> Sorfrost: it's fine; That's expected when there is no sound device :D I've got the disassembly on my to-do list
[13:39] <nils_> BitByBit, seems these IDs are already present in linux 4.15. What type of device is it?
[13:39] <BitByBit> This is a miniPCIe modem
[13:40] <jaranGoyang> hi all
[13:40] <nils_> I mean the SoC thing?
[13:40] <jaranGoyang> where i can find the lounge?
[13:40] <BitByBit> nils_, i need to configure that to get internet connection on a SOC (espressobin, ARM from Marvell)
[13:41] <va> hello i need help i installed fresh installation today i cannot finish setup of synaptic missing python support
[13:41] <nils_> I see, well you can of course replace the kernel and modules, I don't know how that works on ARM unfortunately.
[13:42] <Sorfrost> TJ-, thanks! :)
[13:42] <BitByBit> nils_, you already give me precious hints on where I need to work.. Now I will try to figure out how to get it work.
[13:42] <TJ-> Sven_vB: "error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: "
[13:42] <va> i am looking on forum but i cannot solve the problem
[13:42] <nils_> the problem of course is that those types of devices are usually shipping with some heavily modified kernel with dubious availability of sources etc.
[13:43] <Sven_vB> TJ-, so now I have to find an ISO that has an overlay module AND a libGL? :D
[13:44] <Sven_vB> with my luck, the next ISO I try is missing ubiquity.
[13:44] <BitByBit> nils_, you mean that it could be possible that the functionality could be impossible to embed in the kernel? even if it already have usb ports?
[13:45] <nils_> BitByBit, it may be hard to find the sources for the kernel since it may not work with vanilla kernels because ARM vendors are usually terrible at upstreaming hardware support
[13:48] <va> i cannot fix the problem :(
[13:48] <BitByBit> nils_, uhm.. this is pain to hear for me
[13:53] <va> everything what i try he told me python support depends bla bla
[13:54] <TJ-> Sven_vB: the file is at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1
[13:55] <TJ-> Sven_vB: I suspect your issues are caused by a broken overlay so files aren't visible
[13:55] <sirensari2> va, did you try installing python
[13:56] <Sven_vB> TJ-, thanks, I'll debug that then!
[13:57] <BitByBit> nils_, ESPRESSObin board currently supports Linux kernel versions 4.4.8 and 4.4.52
[13:59] <nils_> BitByBit, just as I suspected, no upstreaming and they only support outdated kernels.
[14:00] <maddawg2> wow.. awesome.. it took me 42 seconds to download the entire Ubuntu 16.04.3LTS iso
[14:00] <maddawg2> i love my new internet
[14:03] <netochka> how can i customize the launcher? more specifically, arrange the locked icons in launcher without having to remove and adding them again
[14:04] <sirensari2> netochka, tweak tool maybe
[14:05] <netochka> couldn' find anything for this purpose on tweak
[14:06] <netochka> sirensari2:  do u by any chance know how to change the shortcut for 'showing desktop'? i looked in the shortcuts to edit it but could not find it
[14:06] <netochka> it's by default on ctrl+super+D ... and i want to change it
[14:09] <Sven_vB> TJ-, starting with a clean casper-rw solved the libGL issue. :))
[14:11] <TJ-> Sven_vB: doesn't surprise me :D
[14:12] <netochka> how can i customize the launcher? more specifically, arrange the locked icons in launcher without having to remove and adding them again
[14:19] <Sven_vB> TJ-, yeah, I could have had that idea myself, that the casper-rw from xenial i386 contains lots of 32bit stuff since I apt-updated it
[14:23] <MyNickname__> hi all.  upgraded by Ubuntu (novice user)  to 17.10 and i'm unable to change any of the settings in "software and updates".  I want to check for only LTS releases but the changes don't stick.  i'm wondering if it's permissions issue somewhere.  anyone experienced this and able to help please?
[14:25] <MyNickname__> MyNickname__: Flick
[14:25] <TJ-> MyNickname__: is it using the Gnome Wayland session, or the "Ubuntu on Xorg" session? The Wayland side doesn't allows 'root' privileges which might prevent changes to APT's config in /etc/apt/
[14:25] <va> some help please about fail synaptic install? :(
[14:26] <MyNickname__> @TJ- how would I tell?
[14:26] <TJ-> MyNickname__: I seem to recall there's an environment variable set that indicates it but I can't remember what it is; in a terminal try "env" and look for anything that sounds like "wayland" ;)
[14:28] <MyNickname__> @tj- "XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=Lubuntu"  any good?
[14:29] <TJ-> MyNickname__: OK, if it's Lubuntu it definitely isn't using Wayand!
[14:29] <MyNickname__> well I guess we've figured something out :)
[14:30] <MyNickname__> when I boot up it also says "an error has been reported.  would you like to report it?"  prior to upgrade, when I clicked yes, it would ask me for password.  now it just goes away.
[14:33] <MyNickname__> @tj- i'm unable to select "canonical partners" either.  nothing changes
[14:35] <TJ-> MyNickname__: that seems weird, usually it is supposed to prompt for elevated privileges I think
[14:35] <MyNickname__> @tj- yes, I thought so too
[14:36] <TJ-> MyNickname__: I've got a Lubuntu (16.04) here; as soon as I change a checkbox in the Software and Updates dialog I get an Authentication pop-up dialog
[14:37] <MyNickname__> @tj- that's how it used to work before upgrading.  i'm very sure this isn't a "feature" but some balls up along the way
[14:37] <MyNickname__> @tj- (it wasn't a smooth upgrade!)
[14:38] <TJ-> MyNickname__: that could be a clue. Check in $HOME/.xsession-errors and /var/log/auth.log for more clues
[14:39] <MyNickname__> @tj- there were some errors in .xsession - I ended up removing upstart files.  before I did that I couldn't log in at all
[14:39] <MyNickname__> @tj- I will have a look in auth.log
[14:39] <MyNickname__> @tj- although don't know what i'll be looking for
[14:40] <TJ-> MyNickname__: nor me... "clues" :p
[14:40] <TJ-> MyNickname__: auth.log generally records anything where elevated privileges are required, that's why I suggest it
[14:40] <deadrom> hi
[14:40] <MyNickname__> @tj- that's good to know.  thanks.
[14:41] <TJ-> MyNickname__: as a test, create a new user with sudo rights, log-in using that, see if that user can change settings. IF so, you know the issue is some config option in your user's $HOME
[14:42] <deadrom> LTE usb modem, works, but IPs are strange: wwan0 has a 10.x.y.z address, which can't be the public IP address. do I get to see the public address on LTE connections *at all* or does the modem hide all this from me?
[14:42] <jaranGoyang> wwhat best download manager for ubuntu?
[14:43] <leftyfb> deadrom: the LTE device you have is a modem/router
[14:43] <leftyfb> deadrom: curl http://icanhazip.com # will you your public ip
[14:43] <leftyfb> jaranGoyang: the one that fits your personal needs and preferences
[14:45] <jaranGoyang> leftyfb:u get or xdm?
[14:46] <jaranGoyang> i use for download movie
[14:46] <leftyfb> jaranGoyang: please see my above post. These types of questions aren't support issues.
[14:48] <MyNickname__> @tj- new user with sudo rights also unable to change the settings
[14:49] <deadrom> leftyfb, I tried such a service, but I cannot ping back to that address. Could be their stack, though.
[14:49] <leftyfb> deadrom: you will not be able to ping your own public ip behind a router
[14:50] <leftyfb> deadrom: regardless, you might try #computer or #networking for support with this. It's not related to Ubuntu
[14:50] <deadrom> leftyfb, tried from a smartphone on another carrier
[14:50] <deadrom> true that
[14:51] <deadrom> what is ubuntu though: I need to reach the machine from the internet. ssh access or any other port will be fine. dyndns won't work due to the above, so I wonder.
[14:53] <deadrom> machine is headless (ubuntu server), thus TeamViewer is no option
[14:53] <leftyfb> deadrom: dyndns will work
[14:54] <deadrom> leftyfb, tried, won't. noip neither.
[14:54] <leftyfb> but you'll still need to poke holes in the LTE router
[14:55] <MyNickname__> @tj- as an aside, i'm sure I can do it via command line via ssh but I want to be able to do it through the GUI
[14:57] <cbit> Ubuntu 17.10 with Wayland session: does anyone experience crashes with a dual screen setup. It happens to me after some hours of work, when moving windows between monitors
[15:11] <vberkaltun> hi
[15:16] <TJ-> MyNickname__: this might be something to do with a move recently to using policykit and pkexec rather than gksudo and friends
[15:18] <MyNickname__> @tj- I found this: ightdm: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet5.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:19] <MyNickname__> @tj- that was in auth.log
[15:20] <TJ-> pam_kwallet5.so is a common report affects almost every system, is non-fatal, and you can safely ignore it
[15:21] <MyNickname__> @tj- oh...how disappointing :(
[15:21] <akik> is polkit the thing which sometimes asks for root password when you don't provide it?
[15:22] <akik> it's completely unknown system to me
[15:22] <TJ-> akik: polkit is the policy engine service, but as I recall it communicates via DBus so clients can ask for/receive rights to do things
[15:23] <MyNickname__> @tj- well, i'm at a loss.  I really don't want to have to do a fresh install.  that's gonna take me days to get it back to how I had it.
[15:23] <akik> TJ-: why is it needed?
[15:26] <TJ-> akik: so the 'user' process doesn't need to run as root; it can run as the user account and ask over DBus for privileges just to do a single function
[15:28] <akik> linux is becoming really complicated
[15:29] <akik> i saw that the config file for it is in xml
[15:29] <Sven_vB> I'd like to find the window ID of a gnome-terminal window using its title, but there's neither xdotool nor wmctrl in the Xenial live session, and the title doesn't show up in xlsclients -al. any other ideas?
[15:29] <TJ-> akik: this is why there are problems with Wayland; applications need altering to use polkit
[15:30] <qswz> I've a custom bash function, loaded in .bashrc, but I can't run it with sudo, is their a way?
[15:30] <Sven_vB> qswz, inside the sudo shell, source your .bashrc
[15:31] <Sven_vB> qswz, or you could make that function a stand-alone executable script
[15:31] <akik> TJ-: so i am able to create sudo rules easily. how much of a learning curve is creating these polkit rules?
[15:31] <qswz> ah ok, thanks, actually it was to be used in sudo crontab
[15:31] <qswz> Sven_vB ah ok, the other option might be better then
[15:31] <TJ-> akik: they're shipped as policies by the applications that provide/use it
[15:31] <akik> TJ-: so users are not expected to create them?
[15:32] <qswz> ll /
[15:32] <qswz> oops
[15:32] <TJ-> akik: have a look under /usr/share/polkit-1/ for an idea of how it works; it's rather like udev rules in terms of organisation
[15:32] <leftyfb> qswz: why are you running sudo in a cron? Why not run the job from root's cron?
[15:32] <TJ-> akik: no, it's a packaging function
[15:33] <qswz> leftyfb: I  run http://dpaste.com/1RR630Z to save my eyes, (like a custom f.lux / redshift)
[15:33] <qswz> and it uses sudo
[15:33] <akik> TJ-: so it's not a replacement for sudoers?
[15:33] <akik> i'm pretty baffled as you can see :)
[15:34] <leftyfb> qswz: remove sudo and just run it as a script (not a function) as root in a cron
[15:34] <robbinzone> hi all, I am trying to bind the command "xte "mousedown 1"" to <CTRL>Button1 via CompizConfigManager in Ubuntu, but cannot seem to make that key+mouseclick combination do the "click and hold" action that I need. Advice, anyone? (I have installed the xautomation package)
[15:35] <qswz> leftyfb: ok yes, like what Sven's 2nd way
[15:35] <qswz> thanks
[15:37] <TJ-> akik: there's a good summary here, skip to the "PolicyKit Authorization Service" heading and read the 1st 3 or 4 parapgraphs.  http://www.admin-magazine.com/Articles/Assigning-Privileges-with-sudo-and-PolicyKit
[16:23] <CSO1> Hi there. I could need some help with installing different Ubuntu versions. When creating a bootable USB Stick, I can choose, what I want to start (install or test), but when I click one of those options, my PC completely freezes after the animation of the five dots. I tried this with 16.04LTS and 17.10, both without success. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance!
[16:26] <birgersp> What's the easiest way for me to install the version 2.4 OpenCV library? The current version on apt is 3.0
[16:26] <CSO1> If it helps: on the same PC I was running 17.04, but since the support was dropped, I was forced to update. 17.04 ran flawlessly
[16:28] <nacc> birgersp: what package name?
[16:29] <sirensari2> CSO1, what program
[16:29] <Guest70554> hello
[16:29] <CSO1> I used Rufus 2.18 from the official site
[16:29] <Guest70554> y
[16:29] <MyNickname__> @jt- hey - thought i'd let you know I sorted it.  reinstalling the desktop environment somehow seems to have worked :)
[16:30] <sirensari2> CSO1, try e2b
[16:30] <sirensari2> it's better
[16:30] <MyNickname__> @tj- that was for you btw
[16:30] <nacc> TJ-: --^
[16:30] <MyNickname__> @tj- sorted it  - reinstall of desktop environment did it :)
[16:30] <CSO1> sirensari2 Easy2Boot?
[16:30] <sirensari2> o ya baby. so ez
[16:31] <kostkon> CSO1, another option http://etcher.io/
[16:31] <sirensari2> only 1 distro w/ that tho
[16:32] <birgersp> nacc: libopencv-dev
[16:33] <birgersp> Sorry, the current version is 3.1. But anyways...
[16:33] <nacc> birgersp: the short answer is, you can't officially; you can build from source
[16:34] <sirensari2> build from source
[16:34] <sirensari2> ya ^
[16:34] <nacc> birgersp: or you can use a ppa, but that's probably not a great choice for going backwards
[16:34] <nacc> birgersp: or, finally, set up a trusty vm or container
[16:34] <nacc> birgersp: xenial even
[16:34] <sirensari2> looks like 2.x and 3.x are actively maintained
[16:36] <CSO1> I'll be back reporting when installing 17.10 or 16.04 worked because I'm writing on the same PC I want to install... Thanks for your help though! See ya.
[16:36] <birgersp> sirensari2 and nacc: thanks. I've built from source before so it should be okay. was just hoping there'd be a quicker way
[16:37] <Zenina> Hiya
[16:38] <TJ-> MyNickname__: glad you figured it out; I was trying to avoid that suggestion :)
[16:38] <Zenina> Can anyone here help me realign my protonic harmonizers with my quantum relay
[16:38] <nacc> Zenina: please stay ontopic.
[16:39] <Zenina> I dont want to cause a lepton overload
[16:39] <Zenina> Look i really need help
[16:39] <nacc> Zenina: then don't troll.
[16:39] <Zenina> Im not
[16:40] <nacc> Zenina: what is your ubuntu support issue?
[16:41] <Zenina> Yea i dont know how to harmonize my neutron rods with my hadronic collision protocol without causing a meltdown
[16:42] <nacc> Zenina: please stop, this is the Ubuntu support channel.
[16:42] <Zenina> Pardon my language nacc but your kinda being a little bitch right now
[16:42] <nacc> !ops
[16:43] <Zenina> Lmao
[16:43] <nacc> dax: thank you
[16:44] <lupulo> is Ryzen 7 a good option?
[16:44] <MyNickname__> @tj- still no idea what the cause was but thought it was worth a go.  relatively painless.  thanks a lot for your help and suggestions.
[16:46] <sirensari2> :o
[16:48] <lupulo> is Ryzen 7 and Nvidia Titan X an option?
[17:13] <talexb> Is anyone here in charge of the configuration for 91.189.88.152? Getting '403  Forbidden: header 'Content-Type' value denied [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]' when trying to install a package.
[17:17] <leftyfb> talexb: what version of ubuntu?
[17:17] <talexb> leftyfb, 17.10. Just installed this server last month.
[17:18] <leftyfb> talexb: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[17:18] <talexb> Did the install at home, and now it's at a client site.
[17:20] <talexb> leftyfb, Here: https://pastebin.com/r7tpDNew
[17:20] <chris__> so I could install a lamp server so I can make a website for my business, but why do I need sql?
[17:20] <leftyfb> talexb: I would try changing your main repo, maybe from ca.archive ro us.archive to see if it resolves the issue
[17:21] <chris__> Im asking because I may not be seeing I MAY need it
[17:21] <talexb> leftyfb, That's the first line?
[17:21] <leftyfb> chris__: a lot of website applications use mysql as their backend
[17:21] <leftyfb> talexb: all the lines that says ca.archive
[17:22] <leftyfb> talexb: that don't have # in front of them
[17:22] <talexb> OK, will do. Yes, I understand that the leading # means comment, thanks. :)
[17:22] <chris__> leftyfb: thats really not telling me much, why would  I need a database?
[17:23] <chris__> it would be a very basic website
[17:23] <leftyfb> chris__: other than the fact that this isn't an ubuntu support question, if you use a website application like wordpress, it requires a mysql backend. If you're writing your own html, then don't worry about it.
[17:24] <tgm4883> chris__: because the M in LAMP is mysql
[17:25] <chris__> leftyfb: yes I was going to wirte myself thanks sorry I know its off topic
[17:26] <talexb> :( It seems that liblwpx-paranoidagent-perl doesn't exist on the us site. All I really need is the Perl module LWP::UserAgent, but my cpan access is broken ATM.
[17:26] <cemerick_> I have an ARM ubuntu installation here that is missing all of the usual CPU frequency info. Are there lower-level ways to determine CPU frequencies than the usual special files?
[17:26] <talexb> Anyway, thanks for your suggestion. I'm going to have lunch and think again. :)
[17:27] <tgm4883> chris__: if you install a LAMP server (meaning you select LAMP during the server install), it's going to install a Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP server. If you don't need all that, don't install the portions you don't need (a LAMP stack is simply what is most commonly installed)
[17:28] <ph88> how do i restore the grouping with alt-tab ? it got messed up after installing and removing the gnome AlternateTab extension
[17:31] <leftyfb> ph88: if you had the gnome AlternateTab extension to solve your grouping issue before and now you reinstalled, wouldn't reinstalling the gnome AlternateTab extension solve the issue yet again?
[17:33] <ph88> leftyfb, i want grouping, i don't want alternatetab .. i just enable/disable it by accident
[17:34] <leftyfb> ph88: sorry, I misread
[17:34] <chris__> what is a good channel for website, I was thinking networking but not really
[17:35] <leftyfb> for website?
[17:35] <OerHeks> chris__, #html perhaps?
[17:35] <leftyfb> chris__: do you mean how to create a website using html?
[17:36] <mrzro> hello
[17:37] <chris__> leftyfb: Im more kind wondering if I need php or not. I know I need html and css then Im assumming I need php or javascript
[17:37] <mrzro> hello
[17:40] <sirensari2> chris__, ##webdev
[17:40] <sirensari2> use a static site generator. don't waste your time with php
[17:41] <chris__> I guess it better to get javscript first
[17:42] <chris__> thnaks all
[17:43] <chris__> maybe a typing tutor :-))
[17:44] <haymi> Iam using  ubuntu 16.04.2 and my laptop sound works in  speaker but  in  headset it doesnt work when  i plug my headset  any solution/
[17:45] <sirensari2> haymi, did you test it in sound settings
[17:46] <nacc> haymi: 16.04.2? does that imply you are not fully up to date?
[17:48] <haymi> sirensari2: yes i already test
[17:48] <haymi> nacc:it is 	Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS sorry
[17:48] <nacc> haymi: np, just checking :)
[17:49] <nacc> haymi: which kernel are you on (uname -r)
[17:49] <ioria> already out .4 ?
[17:49] <nacc> ioria: yeah
[17:49] <ioria> tx
[17:49] <nacc> ioria: well, to be clear, upgrades have already updated
[17:49] <nacc> ioria: new ISOs are published today, i believe
[17:49] <haymi> nacc:4.4.0-116-generic
[17:49] <ioria> great
[17:49] <nacc> haymi: ok, so that's the base kernel
[17:49] <nacc> haymi: have you tried the hwe kernel?
[17:50] <nacc> TJ-: --^ weren't you also helping a user with this problem?
[17:50] <nacc> (similar problem with sound, i mean)
[17:50] <haymi> nacc:i didn't get you?
[17:51] <nacc> !hwe | haymi
[17:51] <manishkumarsinha> how to expand /tmp partition
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> manishkumarsinha  did you create a separate partition for /tmp?
[17:52] <alfepu79> hola
[17:53] <alfepu79> algun hispano hablante
[17:53] <nacc> ioria: looks like ISOs are being marked as ready right now
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> !es | alfepu79
[17:53] <ioria> nacc, ok, tx
[17:53] <sirensari2> alfepu79, #ubuntu-es
[17:57] <haymi> nacc:I didnt try it how can i  try hwe?
[17:57] <nacc> haymi: see the link mentioned in the faq
[18:08] <albertoiNET> Hi
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: welcome, how can we help you?
[18:09] <albertoiNET> Hi  lotuspsychje I've been dealing with this problem for days -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1010405/the-brightness-of-laptop-screen-cannot-be-adjusted-with-either-the-buttons-or-th
[18:09] <haymi> nacc:I have already install hwe kernel but still the same  problem
[18:09] <albertoiNET> :((
[18:10] <albertoiNET> My brightness in my laptop always is highest
[18:11] <albertoiNET> My eyess..... xD
[18:11] <nacc> haymi: installed and booted to it, i assume?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: thats a big list you have tested indeed
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: does this work under an LTS version?
[18:12] <albertoiNET> Yes I testes all, and I have the latest Ubuntu 17.10 with a kernel upstream mainlinie (yesterday) xD
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: how about on a liveusb?
[18:14] <albertoiNET> in liveusb doesn't work  :(
[18:16] <dazi> hi
[18:16] <albertoiNET> added to the list xD
[18:16] <dazi> Please help me in running anbox on ubuntu budgie 17.10
[18:16] <Carll> albertoiNET: cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[18:17] <dazi> i have installed properly, it shows up then disappear
[18:17] <dazi> please suggest something!
[18:18] <OerHeks> dazi,  and what guide did you follow? anbox is not in our repos
[18:18] <albertoiNET> Carl, it shows 100
[18:18] <albertoiNET> cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness 100
[18:18] <Carll> albertoiNET: https://pastebin.com/zU11HWey
[18:18] <dazi> I have installed via terminal as per instructions of anbox.io
[18:19] <nacc> dazi: that seems like a question for anbox
[18:19] <Carll> albertoiNET: change your boardname etc to suit
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: found one thread saying its unity related, can you test another flavor perhaps too?
[18:19] <dazi> so should i ask help from anbox ?
[18:19] <albertoiNET> ok I'm going to try
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: oh wait nvm, your on gnome
[18:20] <Carll> albertoiNET: if that doesnt work there's a workaround
[18:21] <albertoiNET> lotuspsychje I try with KDE Plasma
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> dazi OerHeks seems like we have an anbox installer in snaps now
[18:21] <albertoiNET> lotuspsychje I tried with KDE Plasma and doesn't work
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: ok mate seems like its machine/hardware related then, consider filing a new !bug with your whole story/steps?
[18:23] <nacc> lotuspsychje: that would be suported by the anbox snapper (morphis)
[18:23] <Carll> albertoiNET: make sure also your driver is installed :) if not install xbacklight?
[18:23] <dazi> lotuspsychje yes indeed. but it doesn't work for me
[18:24] <OerHeks> dazi, i would certainly ask in #anbox here on #freenode, "Anbox doesn't start on my device. What did I do wrong? Most likely it's not your fault. Anbox is still in its early days and doesn't have much test coverage.."
[18:24] <dazi> i had to re-install it via terminal
[18:25] <dazi> i read an thread says; it easily works on ubuntu 17.10 wayland session
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> dazi: and did you test that?
[18:25] <albertoiNET> I posted a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1751887
[18:25] <albertoiNET> but I'm going to test your pastebin Carll
[18:25] <albertoiNET> Carll   https://pastebin.com/zU11HWey i'm going to test this pastebin
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> albertoiNET: have you been able to catch acpi errors from a syslog/dmesg tail?
[18:26] <dazi> yes, fortunately it never disappears but did not work
[18:26] <akik> dazi: what's the error message? start it from a terminal
[18:27] <dazi> let me share
[18:28] <OerHeks> their ppa gives a DKMS package, but not for Artfull 17.10 ...https://launchpad.net/~morphis/+archive/ubuntu/anbox-support and this github enables devmode... https://github.com/anbox/anbox/wiki/Installation
[18:28] <OerHeks> really alfa, i guess
[18:29] <dazi>  2018-03-01 18:28:33] [daemon.cpp:58@Run] bind: Address already in use
[18:29] <dazi> this is what i m getting on the command of "anbox session-manager"
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks dazi yeah i also readed its now being tested on ubports 16.04 early stage now
[18:31] <akik> dazi: check if that process is already running
[18:31] <akik> dazi: then kill it, and launch it again from the terminal
[18:33] <dazi> same result it disappears and not even in the process after its disappearance
[18:33] <OerHeks> join #anbox ..
[18:34] <Bodsda> My nvidia graphics card is detected by lspci, nvidia drivers installed, but it doesnt appear when I go to set the displays up and xrandr doesnt recognise the nvidia card at all
[18:35] <dazi> no doubts bugs are expected in #anbox but it should work at least in the beginning
[18:39] <ioria> Bodsda, 17.10 ?
[18:46] <ph88> how do i go back to the gnome default alt-tab grouping ? it got messed up after installing/uninstalling AtlernateTab gnome extension
[18:48] <OerHeks> open systemsettings, devices, keyboard, [reset all] ??
[18:48] <weaksauce> anyone have a recommendation on an email server that will only be used to send emails to itself and read those back?
[18:48] <weaksauce> no need for anything external
[18:49] <weaksauce> external being comms to other email systems
[18:50] <OerHeks> weaksauce, postfix perhaps? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html
[18:51] <weaksauce> OerHeks thanks. i suppose one of the old standby servers is probably the best choice yeah.
[18:51] <weaksauce> battle tested and all that
[18:52] <compdoc> I use nullmailer
[18:53] <compdoc> but more for just sending, i guess
[19:05] <FabienH> Hell
[19:05] <FabienH> Hello
[19:25] <madLyfe> when a git clone has cmake build options, and you have already compile with x options, but now you want to recompile with the same options, are those options saved from the previous compile or do they need to be entered again?
[19:27] <pavlushka> how to browse and select ubuntu repositories from terminal?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> !sources | pavlushka
[19:29] <nacc> madLyfe: not sure what git has to do with it, seems like a cmake question?
[19:29] <madLyfe> was just giving some background.
[19:29] <CarlFK1> pavlushka: apt-add-repository
[19:30] <pavlushka> awe: even the bot knows
[19:30] <OerHeks> pavlushka, to edit, not add, sudo nano etc/apt/sources.list .. but browsing other repos is not a feature
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: perhaps tell us what your real plan is?
[19:32] <pavlushka> OerHeks: what if my current repo server is down and I need to select another repo, how to do it from terminal?
[19:32] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: ^\
[19:33] <nacc> pavlushka: by editing the files?
[19:33] <madLyfe> nacc: are you saying go elsewhere with a cmake question?
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: #ubuntu-mirrors might know whats wrong with your country/repo?
[19:33] <nacc> madLyfe: i assume there is probably a cmake channel
[19:33] <nacc> madLyfe: or try it and see?
[19:33] <nacc> madLyfe: if you're in a git repo, `git status` should show you all the modified files in repo
[19:34] <madLyfe> by git repo, you mean the local clone dir?
[19:35] <nacc> madLyfe: ... yes
[19:35] <madLyfe> sorry im a nix newb.
[19:36] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: in the morning (utc+6) my reguler repo was down, so I needed to switch, so my Q is how to do it from terminal.
[19:36] <nacc> madLyfe: not really about 'nix'. just Git
[19:36] <madLyfe> know less about git.
[19:37] <pavlushka> *regular
[19:37] <nacc> madLyfe: are you referring to command-line options to cmake?
[19:38] <madLyfe> ya im on server.
[19:38] <nacc> madLyfe: ... not sure how that answers my question
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: talk to the #ubuntu-mirrors channel, they might know whats going on with your repo
[19:39] <madLyfe> nacc: obv i dont either. 'cmake .. -DCUDA_ENABLE=OFF -DOpenCL_ENABLE=OFF -DHWLOC_ENABLE=on' was the build command i used previously.
[19:39] <robbinzone> hi all, I am trying to bind the command "xte "mousedown 1"" to <CTRL>Button1 via CompizConfigManager in Ubuntu, but cannot seem to make that key+mouseclick combination do the "click and hold" action that I need. Advice, anyone? (I have installed the xautomation package)
[19:40] <Bashing-om> pavlushka: If you know the mirror that you want to change to : ' sudo sed -i -e 's/archive.ubuntu.com/mirror.steadfast.net/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ' where mirror.steadfast.net is my mirror site .
[19:59] <nacc> madLyfe: and you want to know if those values got saved somewhere?
[19:59] <madLyfe> ya
[20:00] <nacc> madLyfe: did you bother grepping your local files to see?
[20:01] <madLyfe> grepping?
[20:02] <nacc> madLyfe: ok, let's take a step back. Why are you building from source? It feels like you don't have the required knowledge
[20:12]  * SomeT guess who is back
[20:13] <materiales> hola
[20:13] <SomeT> I need help, I updated a ubuntu distro sudo apt upgrade or whatevver
[20:13] <SomeT> https://pasteboard.co/H9VJ2eC.png
[20:13] <SomeT> I have this
[20:13] <SomeT> I dunno which is safest to select?
[20:14] <geirha> "show the differences..."
[20:14] <geirha> then decide after looking at the diff
[20:14] <OerHeks> 'locally modified' ... never seen this before
[20:14] <ioria> SomeT, what version is that , if i may ask ?
[20:15] <tgm4883> OerHeks: it means he modified the file from defaults
[20:15] <tgm4883> and now the packaging is trying to change it
[20:15] <SomeT> show the differences between the versions?
[20:15] <SomeT> the version of ubuntu?
[20:15] <ioria> yep
[20:15] <SomeT> its 16.04
[20:15] <SomeT> the latest lts one anyway
[20:15] <ioria> ok
[20:16] <SomeT> but yeah my install was one click app on digital ocean
[20:16] <SomeT> for machine learning
[20:16] <SomeT> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-the-machine-learning-one-click-install-image-on-digitalocean
[20:16] <SomeT> this
[20:16] <SomeT> ok if I show the differences between the versions
[20:16] <SomeT> it says
[20:17] <OerHeks> show side-by-side ..
[20:17] <SomeT> https://pasteboard.co/H9VKU7P.png
[20:17] <tgm4883> this sounds like a digitalocean support question
[20:17] <SomeT> ok
[20:17] <SomeT> that says: https://pasteboard.co/H9VL4DI.png
[20:17] <SomeT> yeah digitalocean don't answer support anymore
[20:17] <geirha> SomeT: then just install the package maintainer's version
[20:17] <SomeT> not sure why
[20:18] <SomeT> what based on the side by side comparison?
[20:18] <SomeT> like what is this even doing? I dont understand
[20:18] <ioria> There is no menu.lst any more with grub2
[20:18] <geirha> the differences was only whitespace, so no important changes
[20:19] <SomeT> ah I get ya
[20:19] <SomeT> thanks
[20:19] <SomeT> so I will just update with install the package maintainers version right?
[20:19] <SomeT> that will install the new one?
[20:21] <SomeT> >????
[20:21] <weaksauce> what is the name of that server that had an almost impeccable record for security
[20:21] <weaksauce> was it qmail?
[20:22] <SomeT> I use protonmail for security
[20:22] <OerHeks> 'almost'.... *all* of them
[20:22] <SomeT> uh?
[20:23] <SomeT> ah
[20:23] <weaksauce> i am talking on the order of only a few bugs
[20:23] <arkoldthos> hello nice people from #ubuntu. I'm currently trying to configure a network with a vlan... I'm doing a similar setup with this documentation I found http://enricorossi.org/blog/2017/systemd_network_vlan_interface_up/ and it does work fine, but once I reboot I need to restart systemd-networkd twice and it's not taking the DNS setting, so I modified resolved.conf and I have to restart systemd-restartd after server reboot aswell
[20:24] <geirha> SomeT: yes, pick the package maintainer's version. Then it won't nag you next time that package gets upgraded
[20:25] <SomeT> thansk
[20:25] <SomeT> *thanks
[20:54] <MeaCulpa> does anyone know of a way to use bluetooth on ubuntu 16.04 without having to go into sound settings every time to switch
[20:54] <MeaCulpa> or if there is none
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> MeaCulpa  use blueman
[20:54] <MeaCulpa> thanks monkeydust
[20:55] <MeaCulpa> do I need to uninstall the other?
[20:56] <MeaCulpa> monkeydust, it's already installed maybe I need to do something in settings
[20:58] <MeaCulpa> monkeydust, just for interest sake I had to go into blueman settings and switch from "headphones" to audio sink
[21:05] <smb-or-nfs> Hi all. I have a NAS (running FreeNAS) which is currently sharing an SMB share to a couple of Windows clients. I would like to connect an xubuntu client to the same share. Is it beneficial to host an NFS share from the NAS for the xubuntu client to connect to, or is it ok to connect to the SMB share too?
[21:09] <mlody> hello
[21:10] <Carll> hey mlody
[21:12] <Carll> smb-or-nfs: the choice is setup dependent, what is your goal?
[21:12] <nadio> hello I am having some issues installing truecrack with cuda, and cant figure out where to point --with-cuda=PATH  https://github.com/lvaccaro/truecrack what ever I do causes problems...
[21:12] <smb-or-nfs> Carll: Just file sharing, copying files to-from the NAS and the client
[21:12] <smb-or-nfs> *to/from
[21:13] <OerHeks> test both options? i guess nfs would be faster
[21:13] <smb-or-nfs> The SMB would be fully compatible though?
[21:14] <Carll> smb-or-nfs: yes afaik.
[21:21] <bosphus2> How can I add/remove a scanner in simplescan? I dont see any options in preferences
[21:23] <Carll> bosphus2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[21:24] <smb-or-nfs> Carll: That's great, cheers!
[21:24] <Orbitor> How could I create a user that CAN’T log in graphically?
[21:25] <Carll> Orbitor: if you limit access to their home directory the user wouldn't be able login through the graphical interface
[21:26] <Orbitor> Limit access how? I was under the impression that a user needs access to their own home directory?
[21:26] <Carll> Orbitor: through chmod, may be a better way, let me check one sec.
[21:26] <Orbitor> Thanks for the help!
[21:29] <bosphus2> @Carll I cannot find the .fw or.usb file per those instructions
[21:30] <Carll> bosphus2: is this the first time using the device?
[21:31] <bosphus2> yes...I have a similar one a bit older that autodetected with simplescan
[21:31] <bosphus2> I can print wirelessly fine...but can't scan plugged or not
[21:31] <Carll> Orbitor: create a test user, cd /home/testuser | ls -a | see your .graphical interface files?
[21:32] <Carll> bosphus2: OK, sure I hear ya, what's the printer / scanner called?
[21:32] <bosphus2> epson xp-446
[21:32] <bosphus2> xp-220 is the old one
[21:32] <Orbitor> Carll: Yes, they’re there.
[21:33] <Carll> Orbitor: rename .samename.backup | and try to login through gui - it *should* fail
[21:33] <Orbitor> Carll: k, trying that
[21:34] <Carll> bosphus2: ok sure, are the drivers installed? https://askubuntu.com/questions/310190/can-scan-with-simple-scanner-in-epson-stylus-525wd
[21:35] <bosphus2> I didnt need to isntall drivers to network print...let me look at that link
[21:35] <Orbitor> Carll: it still allows graphical login
[21:35] <Carll> Orbitor: ok, delete those backup files, what gui are you using?
[21:35] <m3rlin> hi
[21:36] <Carll> hey m3rlin
[21:36] <Orbitor> Carll: Unity (16.04 lts)
[21:36] <m3rlin> what's up
[21:36] <m3rlin> talk about printer?
[21:37] <bosphus2> @Carll I see the driver for the xp-220 in my system...but not the 446...just a 442-445 entry
[21:37] <bosphus2> ive had bad luck trying to manually isntall drivers but will read about it
[21:37] <Orbitor>  Carll: found solution https://askubuntu.com/questions/92349/how-do-i-hide-a-particular-user-from-the-login-screen
[21:37] <m3rlin> bosphus2, try searching your driver here http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/?OSC=LX
[21:38] <m3rlin> type xp-446
[21:39] <bosphus2> how do I install it once I get the tarball?
[21:39] <bosphus2> also when I found it there it just linked to the generic driver I already have that doesnt work
[21:40] <Carll> Orbitor: you could add a line in the conf, to stop user logging in.
[21:40] <Carll> Orbitor: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/remove-guest-session-ubuntu-16-04/ - modify to suit.
[21:40] <m3rlin> bosphus2, download debian packages
[21:40] <Orbitor> Carll: thanks!
[21:41] <Carll> Orbitor: you're welcome. :)
[21:41] <bosphus2> I already have that driver package installed
[21:41] <Bashing-om> Carll: Orbitor A thought. chown .ICEauthority and .Xauthority to root ?
[21:42] <bosphus2> the one it links to...and it doesnt list the XP-446 in the list..but thats the package you are linked to when entering XP-446 on the epson site
[21:42] <TJ-> Orbitor: you should probably use PAM, you could use the pam_succeed_if module to do something like "pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup gui" and create a 'gui' group which only GUI users are members of
[21:43] <m3rlin> bosphus2, had you try install it?
[21:43] <bosphus2> again...I already have that package installed
[21:43] <Orbitor> TJ-: the new user is still allowed to log in via console
[21:43] <bosphus2> it doesnt work for this device
[21:44] <Orbitor> Alright, I’ve solved the problem by adding a file under /var/lib/AccountsService/users
[21:44] <TJ-> Orbitor: the full example should probably be  "auth required pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup gui" in /etc/pam.d/lightdm near the top
[21:44] <m3rlin> had you setup printer driver from cups?
[21:44] <m3rlin> localhost:631
[21:45] <Orbitor> TJ-: i’ve solved it, thanks!
[21:56] <Orbitor> How could I allow a user to run one specific task (org.debian.apt.upgrade-packages) as root?
[21:57] <grid-> goodbye see you all
[21:59] <Carll> Orbitor: use sudo privileges? could the task be automated?
[22:00] <MeaCulpa> 0000
[22:01] <MeaCulpa> oops no prizes for guessing what I login to my puter with lol
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> Orbitor  with visudo you can assign root privileges to a single user, for one single command
[22:02] <Orbitor> Carll: the user in question doesn’t know how to use a terminal. Is there any way to allow it to be done graphically? Via the Software Updater applet
[22:02] <Carll> Orbitor: see answer from MonkeyDust
[22:02] <yeats> Orbitor: and best practice is to create a file in visudo format in /etc/sudoers.d/
[22:03] <Orbitor> All: thanks for the help! I’m also looking as PolicyKit, which I think handles these requests graphically?
[22:10] <MeaCulpa> does anyone know off the top, which file I edit to change the command line
[22:11] <nacc> MeaCulpa: you mean the kernel command line?
[22:12] <DiecastMessiah> bash shell?
[22:13] <yeats> MeaCulpa: sounds like you need to clarify what you mean by "change the command line"
[22:13] <ikonia> "change the command line" ?
[22:13] <OerHeks> if one knows howto change command line...
[22:15] <MeaCulpa> it's cool .bashrc was what I was looking for
[22:15] <DiecastMessiah> kk cool
[22:16] <nacc> MeaCulpa: so you mean the command *prompt* ?
[22:18] <MeaCulpa> I'd forgotten to put the $ on the end last time I played with it
[22:21] <_-svg-_> What is up ppl
[22:21] <_-svg-_> Anyone play SC2
[22:21] <MeaCulpa> _.svg ^ that way
[22:22] <ikonia> why ?
[22:22] <nacc> _-svg-_: this is the ubuntu support channel, do you have an ubuntu support request ?
[22:22] <_-svg-_> Nope
[22:22] <_-svg-_> First time using hexchat
[22:22] <_-svg-_> Oh you're right, it says so up there
[22:23] <MeaCulpa> could be addictive svg :)
[22:23] <_-svg-_> Can anyone point me in the direction where to chat with other people that may play SC2?
[22:24] <_-svg-_> MeaCulpa are you Luis Pinto irl
[22:24] <DiecastMessiah> try #gamingonlinux
[22:24] <Carll> _-svg-_: star control 2?
[22:24] <_-svg-_> Thanks Diecast
[22:24] <_-svg-_> Carrl yup
[22:25] <Carll> _-svg-_: have you seen #sc2?
[22:25] <kostkon> !tab | _-svg-_
[22:25] <_-svg-_> Nope, thanks carrl
[22:25] <Carll> Welcome.
[22:28] <MeaCulpa> if anyone is interested in customizing their command prompt "ezprompt.net" is a good place to play around with it
[22:28] <_-svg-_> What so there really is a Star Control 2
[22:44] <_-svg-_> Hey dudes that wasnt a starcraft 2 chat
[22:45] <nacc> !alis | _-svg-_: not our job to find you channels, you can use
[22:46] <_-svg-_> Ok jeez nevermind...
[22:46] <_-svg-_> Thanks anyways to the guy that pointed me to #gamingonlinux
[22:52] <ph88> how do i go back to the gnome default alt-tab grouping ? it got messed up after installing/uninstalling AtlernateTab gnome extension
[22:54] <MeaCulpa> can anyone tell me how to make hexchat beep on 'nick' please
[23:20] <stargoing> hola
[23:21] <stargoing> hi drone
[23:31] <xorg> ...
[23:35] <arooni> best xmpp client for ubuntu?
[23:35] <arooni> what would that be
[23:35] <nacc> arooni: 'best' is not really ontopic for this channel
[23:35] <arooni> how about a recommended one/
[23:35] <bazhang> arooni, you mean jabber
[23:35] <arooni> sure
[23:36] <tomcres> I personally like psi-plus
[23:37] <albertoiNET_> Hi Carll I tested this and doesn't work https://pastebin.com/zU11HWey
[23:37] <albertoiNET_> :(
[23:37] <OerHeks> jabber-client might give good search results
[23:37] <albertoiNET_> ANy can help me with this problem
[23:37] <albertoiNET_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1010405/the-brightness-of-laptop-screen-cannot-be-adjusted-with-either-the-buttons-or-th
[23:39] <zacky83> hello