| tsimonq2 | .ir | 00:00 |
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| tsimonq2 | whooops | 00:00 |
| CoJaBo | donofrio: All the options are grayed out, with no explanation | 00:08 |
| donofrio | CoJaBo, hu? | 00:11 |
| CoJaBo | Try it; the interface is just terribly broken, and apparently has been unfixed since ~2014 | 00:11 |
| CoJaBo | https://www.google.com/search?q=xfce+select+background+greyed+out | 00:12 |
| CoJaBo | Some from 2012 actually | 00:12 |
| CoJaBo | lol'd. | 00:12 |
| donofrio | CoJaBo, what it works for me great https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsBlZbBf72iNoMAqrMaVNAXibrQvEA | 00:14 |
| donofrio | again skip that onedrive login jazz | 00:14 |
| CoJaBo | donofrio: I mean, try to select one from another folder | 00:16 |
| donofrio | uh I did that is not stock mouse background ;) | 00:16 |
| CoJaBo | It pops up a message telling you to select a file, but the files are all grayed out | 00:16 |
| donofrio | I use xfce4 daily on my work and home machines | 00:16 |
| donofrio | you do noe select the file in that view but directoey that contains the file | 00:17 |
| CoJaBo | That and the clock issue, users are going to notice right away, and will be unable to fix withoug using Google. Or in the latter case, possibly at all. | 00:17 |
| CoJaBo | donofrio: Read the dialog again | 00:17 |
| donofrio | then it loads up thumbnails of all wallpapers it finds | 00:17 |
| donofrio | #xfce great channel and awesome people there.... | 00:17 |
| CoJaBo | Tell them to fix their stuff then :P | 00:18 |
| donofrio | CoJaBo, it's working like it should.... ;) | 00:19 |
| donofrio | just my 2cents | 00:19 |
| gpunk | hi after this morning update , plasma is very slow, cpu at 100% | 05:35 |
| Vanish | Hey all. I just updated to the 18.04 alpla and now I am not able to connect to the internet at all. I can connect to the router just find and I can ping out but I can't run apt update, apt, upgrade, or use a web browser. It says that am offline | 06:34 |
| gpunk | hi after this morning update , plasma is very slow, cpu at 100% | 06:46 |
| donofrio | so what does this mean to you good folks "(deja-dup-monitor:722): dconf-CRITICAL **: 01:58:37.792: unable to create directory '/home/donofrio/.cache/dconf': Permission denied. dconf will not work properly." | 06:59 |
| flocculant | lotuspsychje_: woohoo - grub issue seen elsewhere, marked my one as a dupe to the one someone is assigned to :) | 07:41 |
| lotuspsychje_ | flocculant: you got a bug url on that? | 07:43 |
| flocculant | bug 1752767 | 07:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1752767 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub2 regression, simultaneous console and video graphical glitches with new patch" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752767 | 07:44 |
| lotuspsychje_ | lets c :p | 07:45 |
| lotuspsychje_ | flocculant: 6 affected | 07:45 |
| lotuspsychje_ | flocculant: is this your bug, or the dupe | 07:46 |
| flocculant | that's the dupe - most of the affected are coming from my one | 07:49 |
| flocculant | main thing is someone will fix it :D | 07:49 |
| lotuspsychje_ | yay | 07:52 |
| flocculant | personally not over worried - only have grub for 3 secs - would look shit for the default time though lol | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje_ | flocculant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1752138 | 07:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1752138 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub menu text corruption" [Undecided,New] | 07:57 |
| lotuspsychje_ | browsing new grub bugs | 07:58 |
| flocculant | seems lots since I reported at beginning of Feb - possibly because it's shown up in artful :D | 07:59 |
| lotuspsychje_ | yeah | 08:00 |
| Boyette | hi | 09:00 |
| Boyette | i have a weird problem | 09:01 |
| Boyette | when i press my prt sc button it doesnt make a screenshot mostly but about 30 seconds later my system cuts the power as a security measure | 09:01 |
| gpunk | hi after this morning update , plasma is very slow, cpu at 100% | 09:21 |
| lotuspsychje_ | Boyette: might be interesting to tail -f /var/log/syslog to see whats happening in realtime before your system shutsdown | 09:27 |
| Boyette | if i can reproduce it | 09:45 |
| Boyette | but it does not always occur | 09:45 |
| Boyette | maybe this | 09:53 |
| Boyette | │Mar 2 09:59:15 HQ /slick-greeter-set-keyboard-layout: Result: Warning! Multiple definitions of keyboard model#012 Using command line, ignoring X server#012Warning! Multiple definitions of keyboard lay│ | 09:53 |
| Boyette | https://pastebin.com/w68dXmK6 | 09:57 |
| Faux | Looks like xorg-server 2:1.19.6-1ubuntu2, now available, may fix my "Option" bug from ~16h ago. Not sure I can face trying it, though. | 11:09 |
| diddledan | fun https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AEIW4iKg/ | 11:28 |
| diddledan | conflicting package | 11:28 |
| diddledan | I can't figure out a way out of this mess | 11:28 |
| diddledan | installing libgl1 removes ubuntu-desktop | 11:28 |
| TJ- | diddledan: "libgl1' is a virtual package; it doesn't exist. Other packages declare "Provides: libgl1" (libg1-mesa-glx is one that Provides) so your issue is that /another/ package is providing it | 11:34 |
| diddledan | ... | 11:34 |
| diddledan | I've got nvidia 390 drivers installed, surely they'd remove conflicting stuff though | 11:35 |
| TJ- | diddledan: try this: " awk -v PROV=libgl1 '/^Package/ {pkg=$2} /^Provides:/ && PROV == $2 {print pkg, $0} {}' /var/lib/dpkg/status " | 11:38 |
| diddledan | nada | 11:38 |
| * diddledan tries under root | 11:39 | |
| diddledan | also nada | 11:39 |
| diddledan | I previously have removed both libgl1 and libgl1-mesa-glx in an attempt to fix this - the idea being to run apt install ubuntu-desktop^ again, but it's at that point I get the conflict | 11:41 |
| TJ- | diddledan: some other package is declaring the provides I think; maybe my command doesn't work correctly in all cases. I'll see if I can find another Provides group to test it on | 11:42 |
| diddledan | dpkg -l https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9ldGJWf7/ | 11:43 |
| diddledan | removing libgl1 (apt remove libgl1) installs libgl1-mesa-glx and vice versa | 11:44 |
| diddledan | with libgl1-mesa-glx installed your script shows it: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Nr9FdKpv/ | 11:47 |
| TJ- | diddledan: right, I was expecting more than 1 package to be reported | 11:51 |
| diddledan | the reason this came up is because I have no gnome shell working: gnome-session-check-accelerated-gl-helper: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 11:51 |
| diddledan | so I've been trying to figure out where the libGL.so.1 has gone to | 11:52 |
| diddledan | I'm not very familiar with the rules for conflicts/replaces/provides but libgl1-mesa-glx has the same value (libgl1) in all THREE slots | 11:53 |
| diddledan | I thought that was a nogo | 11:54 |
| diddledan | I mean how do you conflict with the thing that you provide? surely sounds like a loop | 11:54 |
| diddledan | ok, it looks like the nvidia drivers are wonky: | 11:57 |
| diddledan | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Mjvln4Qe/ | 11:57 |
| diddledan | libglvnd is prividing a package called libgl1 | 11:57 |
| TJ- | right, and my script was supposed to find that. weird, met me re-look at it | 11:58 |
| diddledan | yeah I don't have it installed | 11:58 |
| diddledan | because if I install it then libgl1-mesa-glx is removed due to the conflict | 11:58 |
| diddledan | and when libgl1-mesa-glx is removed so too is ubuntu-dekstop | 11:59 |
| diddledan | and then we get a loop when I try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop^ | 11:59 |
| diddledan | libgl1 from the libglvnd _source_ package is a _real_ .deb package not a "provides" | 12:00 |
| diddledan | libglvnd0 doesn't "provide" libgl1 at all https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5tn6767n/ | 12:01 |
| TJ- | diddledan: arghhh | 12:11 |
| * diddledan goes bananas | 12:11 | |
| diddledan | ;-p | 12:11 |
| diddledan | I think this system of mine is royally mucked-up :-p | 12:12 |
| diddledan | perhaps I can try purging the nvidia driver? (I don't know all the relevant packages so I'd need a hand) | 12:14 |
| diddledan | I _think_ I've removed nvidia fully. was a case of removing nvidia-driver-390 and autoremove thereafter | 12:19 |
| diddledan | but the conflict still remains on ubuntu-desktop^ | 12:19 |
| diddledan | without the ^ works, though | 12:20 |
| diddledan | so something that isn't directly depended upon by the deb package but _is_ by the task | 12:22 |
| gpunk | my opengl accelaration is dead too | 12:30 |
| diddledan | progress. Got to a failsafe X session now | 12:30 |
| gpunk | i fixed by removing libglvnd0 , but it came back with an update, and i cant remove it now | 12:31 |
| gpunk | plasma depends on it and many kde apps | 12:31 |
| TJ- | diddledan: that needs reporting as a bug against libglvnd0, with a suggestion the debian/control needs a "Provides: libgl1" | 12:35 |
| diddledan | the thing is it doesn't provide libgl1 | 12:36 |
| diddledan | the source package builds a separate package CALLED libgl1 | 12:37 |
| gpunk | and I have an intel videocard | 12:37 |
| diddledan | as in there literally is a package libgl1 not a virtual package | 12:37 |
| TJ- | diddledan: hmmm, do either declare conflicts on each other? | 12:39 |
| diddledan | see: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libglvnd/ | 12:39 |
| diddledan | no | 12:39 |
| diddledan | and neither depend on each other either | 12:39 |
| TJ- | either way, report the bug and then the maintainers can sort it out | 12:40 |
| TJ- | do either package have a Replaces declared? | 12:41 |
| diddledan | no | 12:41 |
| diddledan | I lie | 12:41 |
| diddledan | on libgl1: | 12:41 |
| diddledan | Replaces: libglvnd0 (<< 0.2.999+git20170201-1) | 12:41 |
| diddledan | libglvnd0 is current above that number: Version: 0.2.999+git20170802-2 | 12:42 |
| TJ- | check the changelog, then bug report it, looks like a simple change. The maintainer wasn't paying attention :) | 12:45 |
| diddledan | I don't know what or where the bug is though | 12:46 |
| diddledan | it's too all encompassing | 12:46 |
| diddledan | ogl doesn't work. nvidia drivers don't work. failsafe x without nvidia drivers | 12:46 |
| diddledan | .. conflicting packages with opengl-related stuff... | 12:48 |
| TJ- | the 1st bug is that 2 packages provide the same file (symlink) /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/scczPztDwT/ | 12:50 |
| diddledan | ok, that one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1752863 I don't know more than I've said so it's really not a helpful bug report IMO | 12:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1752863 in libglvnd (Ubuntu) "libgl1 and libgl1-mesa-glx both provide libGL.so.1" [Undecided,New] | 12:58 |
| Volkodav | looks like autoremove kicked out my i-386 libs | 14:09 |
| Volkodav | I get all kind of errors libGL.so.1 and such | 14:09 |
| diddledan | for reference, TJ- , my bug is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1751414 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] | 14:12 |
| diddledan | looks like something gone wonky | 14:13 |
| TJ- | diddledan: 'wonky' is an understatement :) | 14:14 |
| diddledan | haha | 14:15 |
| scde | Hello, does someone here know when the users with 16.04 will be prompted to upgrade to 18.04? | 14:38 |
| scde | I think I recall that with 16.04 it was once the first fixes were available with 16.04.1 | 14:39 |
| SwedeMike | 364 | 14:41 |
| SwedeMike | oops | 14:41 |
| FurretUber | Hi, I've updated Xubuntu 18.04 and now GPU rendering is no longer working. The update was: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S7csQfNHT4/ | 15:00 |
| FurretUber | Yes, this is the same thing from 3 or 4 days ago | 15:00 |
| FurretUber | Something now requires libegl1, and if I try to remove libegl1 it tries to remove update-manager, gnome-software, xubuntu-desktop and other packages | 15:01 |
| FurretUber | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1752901 | 15:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1752901 in libglvnd (Ubuntu) "If libegl1 is installed, modeset fails and rendering falls back to CPU (llvmpipe)" [Undecided,New] | 15:13 |
| TJ- | you're not the first one today bug \1751414 | 15:23 |
| TJ- | you're not the first one today bug #1751414 | 15:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751414 | 15:23 |
| diddledan | I suspect there'll be more :-) | 15:24 |
| FurretUber | On my case, I use Xorg. While it was avoidable it was tolerable, but now something important depends from that and it's marked as a supported package. I told about this problem here days ago, but couldn't reproduce properly, I was not sure if was libegl1 or libopengl0 or libglvnd0, libegl1 was not marked as supported and there is the libegl1-mesa package already supported | 15:35 |
| diddledan | "supported" on an unsupported distribution | 15:38 |
| FurretUber | But I believe libegl1 is supported (it has the check mark on synaptic: http://i.imgur.com/yonICV9.png ) | 15:43 |
| nacc | FurretUber: TJ-: diddledan: it's because we're in the middle of a migration | 15:44 |
| nacc | bionic-proposed has the fixes | 15:44 |
| nacc | (the updated packages for all of the x stack | 15:44 |
| diddledan | yeah, nacc , I'm being patient :-) I've got other systems I can use while waiting for bionic. The main thing I was concerned about was helping get the right people the right information to assist | 15:45 |
| nacc | diddledan: ack, appreciate it | 15:47 |
| nacc | i think you're all looking at the right bug | 15:47 |
| FurretUber | I'm sorry for that messages, I was frustrated | 15:51 |
| Boyette | anyone who can help me with debugging my blackouts | 15:51 |
| nacc | FurretUber: totally undestandable :) | 15:52 |
| nacc | FurretUber: we're in a bit of a bind on 18.04 (like most releases) as stuff needs more love in Ubuntu than Debian (IMO) since we don't let tests just fail | 15:52 |
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| donofrio | nacc, but midori failed I guess and was removed from 18.04 ;( just replying to FurretUber conversation | 18:13 |
| nacc | donofrio: which conversation? | 18:13 |
| donofrio | from 10:40am something about "we don't let tests just fail" you said | 18:14 |
| donofrio | 10:52:59 | 18:14 |
| nacc | donofrio: it wasn't tests | 18:15 |
| nacc | the package *didn't build* | 18:15 |
| nacc | read the bug reports and the publishing history | 18:15 |
| * donofrio hanging head - understood | 18:15 | |
| donofrio | nacc, got a handy link to history and the like? | 18:17 |
| nacc | i sent it earlier, donofrio | 18:17 |
| donofrio | oh ok I'll go back and read | 18:17 |
| nacc | donofrio: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/midori/+publishinghistory | 18:17 |
| nacc | donofrio: looking at the deletion entry for artful, e.g. | 18:18 |
| donofrio | how do I sort by date in launchpad | 18:19 |
| nacc | donofrio: those are sorted by date the publishing event happened (in reverse) | 18:21 |
| donofrio | so because it didn't come back from power saving it's been removed...ok...intresting | 18:22 |
| nacc | donofrio: what? | 18:23 |
| nacc | donofrio: it got removed because it was removed in debian, failed to build from source, is ummaintained an dunsupported | 18:23 |
| donofrio | too cooll.....chromium works now | 18:38 |
| donofrio | in wsl 18.04 ;) | 18:38 |
| donofrio | no need for midori | 18:38 |
| donofrio | ;) | 18:38 |
| donofrio | it was failing all over itself in 17.04 | 18:38 |
| donofrio | how do I disable this keyring jazz....never understood storing passwords, always seemed like a very bad idea | 18:41 |
| Boyette | hi | 18:56 |
| Boyette | i always get internet error | 18:56 |
| Boyette | 1752108 | 18:56 |
| donofrio | Boyette, uh in what app/what were you doing? | 19:03 |
| FurretUber | Boyette: I tried to find this bug (#1752108) in Launchpad, but couldn't find it | 19:22 |
| FurretUber | I think it is private | 19:22 |
| Boyette | well | 19:41 |
| Boyette | it must be there | 19:41 |
| Boyette | i get auto report | 19:41 |
| Boyette | the bug is already known | 19:41 |
| Boyette | and reporrted | 19:42 |
| Boyette | always comes back | 19:42 |
| nacc | Boyette: if it's private, we can't see it | 19:47 |
| Faux | Back to the official nvidia driver, but now I have no glx. This is going super well. | 19:48 |
| vivid | i just updated some packages and rebooted and now ive got no function from my nvidia driver....anyone know a workaround? | 19:56 |
| Faux | \o/ welcome to my world. | 20:00 |
| Faux | What do you mean by "no function"? | 20:00 |
| FurretUber | Probably the problem is this one: #1751414 | 20:05 |
| FurretUber | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1751414 | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] | 20:05 |
| vivid | i cant remove libegl1 the whole system depends on it....like 200 packages | 20:09 |
| vivid | 253 packages | 20:10 |
| FurretUber | This affects, at least, Intel Westmere and Skylake too. AMD Cedar is not affected. | 20:10 |
| vivid | how can i see if its wayland running currently | 20:10 |
| FurretUber | It could be removed before, after this last update it tries to remove a good portion of the system | 20:10 |
| FurretUber | You can use glxinfo -B to see if the GPU is being used. To see if Wayland is being used, I don't know | 20:12 |
| vivid | session is x11 | 20:12 |
| vivid | aaaand nouveau un-sweet | 20:13 |
| vivid | id remove that but thats obviously not the problem, ill just have no display at all :p | 20:13 |
| Faux | I'm trying the "install glx from proposed", I'm happy with it removing half the system at this point. | 20:22 |
| vivid | i dont see why things are moved out of proposed when theyre not working | 20:23 |
| vivid | should be common sense | 20:23 |
| vivid | unreleased release or not | 20:23 |
| Faux | I guess the thing in charge of moving them out of proposed isn't aware of the dependency here. | 20:23 |
| Faux | That libegl can't migrate before other stuff migrates, 'cos it'll break everything. | 20:23 |
| vivid | apparently it just broke everything | 20:24 |
| vivid | because nouveau is not going to get the job done | 20:24 |
| Faux | I only upgraded to bionic the hope that a new kernel would fix my weird usb issues. I got what I deserved. | 20:24 |
| vivid | i upgraded because unity is dead and kde is still a mess | 20:25 |
| vivid | kde "stable" is actually worse than this | 20:25 |
| Faux | Installing from proposed has fixed my machine fwiw. | 20:25 |
| vivid | well it gives a graphical display but its just running open source drivers is why | 20:26 |
| Faux | Unity is still supported for ages, that's a poor choice. :) | 20:26 |
| nacc | Faux: and i just saw everytrhing hsould migrate out of proposed soon | 20:26 |
| nacc | mesa etc. | 20:26 |
| Faux | Yeah. But I'm not updating for two weeks now. :) | 20:27 |
| Faux | Or rebooting, for that matter. | 20:27 |
| nacc | Faux: that's definitely not the right approach | 20:27 |
| vivid | its still breaking things though so perhaps migrating them should wait | 20:27 |
| * Faux launches Factorio. | 20:27 | |
| nacc | this is the cost of running an unreleased thing | 20:27 |
| nacc | vivid: ? | 20:27 |
| nacc | vivid: the fix is to get the stuff out of proposed into the release | 20:27 |
| vivid | ok but its broken, those things from proposed are installed, my system is busted | 20:27 |
| nacc | vivid: what "things"? | 20:28 |
| nacc | vivid: sorry, i don't have enough context and am fighting my own fires right now :) | 20:28 |
| vivid | everything from proposed is installed here, broken graphics driver | 20:28 |
| nacc | well i wouldn't install *everything* from proposed | 20:29 |
| nacc | that's not what anyone said to do | 20:29 |
| nacc | there's stuff in proposed that is by definition broken | 20:29 |
| vivid | i didnt install anything from proposed to begin with, and it was broken | 20:29 |
| vivid | i installed the things people said to install, made a little progress, i can use nouveau | 20:30 |
| vivid | ok so everything back to working well again, problem was i also needed to manually update nvidia driver from proposed due to a name change nvidia-390 -> nvidia-driver-390 | 20:48 |
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