[00:00] .ir [00:00] whooops [00:08] donofrio: All the options are grayed out, with no explanation [00:11] CoJaBo, hu? [00:11] Try it; the interface is just terribly broken, and apparently has been unfixed since ~2014 [00:12] https://www.google.com/search?q=xfce+select+background+greyed+out [00:12] Some from 2012 actually [00:12] lol'd. [00:14] CoJaBo, what it works for me great https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsBlZbBf72iNoMAqrMaVNAXibrQvEA [00:14] again skip that onedrive login jazz [00:16] donofrio: I mean, try to select one from another folder [00:16] uh I did that is not stock mouse background ;) [00:16] It pops up a message telling you to select a file, but the files are all grayed out [00:16] I use xfce4 daily on my work and home machines [00:17] you do noe select the file in that view but directoey that contains the file [00:17] That and the clock issue, users are going to notice right away, and will be unable to fix withoug using Google. Or in the latter case, possibly at all. [00:17] donofrio: Read the dialog again [00:17] then it loads up thumbnails of all wallpapers it finds [00:17] #xfce great channel and awesome people there.... [00:18] Tell them to fix their stuff then :P [00:19] CoJaBo, it's working like it should.... ;) [00:19] just my 2cents [05:35] hi after this morning update , plasma is very slow, cpu at 100% [06:34] Hey all. I just updated to the 18.04 alpla and now I am not able to connect to the internet at all. I can connect to the router just find and I can ping out but I can't run apt update, apt, upgrade, or use a web browser. It says that am offline [06:46] hi after this morning update , plasma is very slow, cpu at 100% [06:59] so what does this mean to you good folks "(deja-dup-monitor:722): dconf-CRITICAL **: 01:58:37.792: unable to create directory '/home/donofrio/.cache/dconf': Permission denied. dconf will not work properly." [07:41] lotuspsychje_: woohoo - grub issue seen elsewhere, marked my one as a dupe to the one someone is assigned to :) [07:43] flocculant: you got a bug url on that? [07:44] bug 1752767 [07:44] bug 1752767 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub2 regression, simultaneous console and video graphical glitches with new patch" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752767 [07:45] lets c :p [07:45] flocculant: 6 affected [07:46] flocculant: is this your bug, or the dupe [07:49] that's the dupe - most of the affected are coming from my one [07:49] main thing is someone will fix it :D [07:52] yay [07:52] personally not over worried - only have grub for 3 secs - would look shit for the default time though lol [07:57] flocculant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1752138 [07:57] Launchpad bug 1752138 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub menu text corruption" [Undecided,New] [07:58] browsing new grub bugs [07:59] seems lots since I reported at beginning of Feb - possibly because it's shown up in artful :D [08:00] yeah [09:00] hi [09:01] i have a weird problem [09:01] when i press my prt sc button it doesnt make a screenshot mostly but about 30 seconds later my system cuts the power as a security measure [09:21] hi after this morning update , plasma is very slow, cpu at 100% [09:27] Boyette: might be interesting to tail -f /var/log/syslog to see whats happening in realtime before your system shutsdown [09:45] if i can reproduce it [09:45] but it does not always occur [09:53] maybe this [09:53] │Mar 2 09:59:15 HQ /slick-greeter-set-keyboard-layout: Result: Warning! Multiple definitions of keyboard model#012 Using command line, ignoring X server#012Warning! Multiple definitions of keyboard lay│ [09:57] https://pastebin.com/w68dXmK6 [11:09] Looks like xorg-server 2:1.19.6-1ubuntu2, now available, may fix my "Option" bug from ~16h ago. Not sure I can face trying it, though. [11:28] fun https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AEIW4iKg/ [11:28] conflicting package [11:28] I can't figure out a way out of this mess [11:28] installing libgl1 removes ubuntu-desktop [11:34] diddledan: "libgl1' is a virtual package; it doesn't exist. Other packages declare "Provides: libgl1" (libg1-mesa-glx is one that Provides) so your issue is that /another/ package is providing it [11:34] ... [11:35] I've got nvidia 390 drivers installed, surely they'd remove conflicting stuff though [11:38] diddledan: try this: " awk -v PROV=libgl1 '/^Package/ {pkg=$2} /^Provides:/ && PROV == $2 {print pkg, $0} {}' /var/lib/dpkg/status " [11:38] nada [11:39] * diddledan tries under root [11:39] also nada [11:41] I previously have removed both libgl1 and libgl1-mesa-glx in an attempt to fix this - the idea being to run apt install ubuntu-desktop^ again, but it's at that point I get the conflict [11:42] diddledan: some other package is declaring the provides I think; maybe my command doesn't work correctly in all cases. I'll see if I can find another Provides group to test it on [11:43] dpkg -l https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9ldGJWf7/ [11:44] removing libgl1 (apt remove libgl1) installs libgl1-mesa-glx and vice versa [11:47] with libgl1-mesa-glx installed your script shows it: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Nr9FdKpv/ [11:51] diddledan: right, I was expecting more than 1 package to be reported [11:51] the reason this came up is because I have no gnome shell working: gnome-session-check-accelerated-gl-helper: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [11:52] so I've been trying to figure out where the libGL.so.1 has gone to [11:53] I'm not very familiar with the rules for conflicts/replaces/provides but libgl1-mesa-glx has the same value (libgl1) in all THREE slots [11:54] I thought that was a nogo [11:54] I mean how do you conflict with the thing that you provide? surely sounds like a loop [11:57] ok, it looks like the nvidia drivers are wonky: [11:57] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Mjvln4Qe/ [11:57] libglvnd is prividing a package called libgl1 [11:58] right, and my script was supposed to find that. weird, met me re-look at it [11:58] yeah I don't have it installed [11:58] because if I install it then libgl1-mesa-glx is removed due to the conflict [11:59] and when libgl1-mesa-glx is removed so too is ubuntu-dekstop [11:59] and then we get a loop when I try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop^ [12:00] libgl1 from the libglvnd _source_ package is a _real_ .deb package not a "provides" [12:01] libglvnd0 doesn't "provide" libgl1 at all https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5tn6767n/ [12:11] diddledan: arghhh [12:11] * diddledan goes bananas [12:11] ;-p [12:12] I think this system of mine is royally mucked-up :-p [12:14] perhaps I can try purging the nvidia driver? (I don't know all the relevant packages so I'd need a hand) [12:19] I _think_ I've removed nvidia fully. was a case of removing nvidia-driver-390 and autoremove thereafter [12:19] but the conflict still remains on ubuntu-desktop^ [12:20] without the ^ works, though [12:22] so something that isn't directly depended upon by the deb package but _is_ by the task [12:30] my opengl accelaration is dead too [12:30] progress. Got to a failsafe X session now [12:31] i fixed by removing libglvnd0 , but it came back with an update, and i cant remove it now [12:31] plasma depends on it and many kde apps [12:35] diddledan: that needs reporting as a bug against libglvnd0, with a suggestion the debian/control needs a "Provides: libgl1" [12:36] the thing is it doesn't provide libgl1 [12:37] the source package builds a separate package CALLED libgl1 [12:37] and I have an intel videocard [12:37] as in there literally is a package libgl1 not a virtual package [12:39] diddledan: hmmm, do either declare conflicts on each other? [12:39] see: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libglvnd/ [12:39] no [12:39] and neither depend on each other either [12:40] either way, report the bug and then the maintainers can sort it out [12:41] do either package have a Replaces declared? [12:41] no [12:41] I lie [12:41] on libgl1: [12:41] Replaces: libglvnd0 (<< 0.2.999+git20170201-1) [12:42] libglvnd0 is current above that number: Version: 0.2.999+git20170802-2 [12:45] check the changelog, then bug report it, looks like a simple change. The maintainer wasn't paying attention :) [12:46] I don't know what or where the bug is though [12:46] it's too all encompassing [12:46] ogl doesn't work. nvidia drivers don't work. failsafe x without nvidia drivers [12:48] .. conflicting packages with opengl-related stuff... [12:50] the 1st bug is that 2 packages provide the same file (symlink) /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/scczPztDwT/ [12:58] ok, that one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1752863 I don't know more than I've said so it's really not a helpful bug report IMO [12:58] Launchpad bug 1752863 in libglvnd (Ubuntu) "libgl1 and libgl1-mesa-glx both provide libGL.so.1" [Undecided,New] [14:09] looks like autoremove kicked out my i-386 libs [14:09] I get all kind of errors libGL.so.1 and such [14:12] for reference, TJ- , my bug is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1751414 [14:12] Launchpad bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] [14:13] looks like something gone wonky [14:14] diddledan: 'wonky' is an understatement :) [14:15] haha [14:38] Hello, does someone here know when the users with 16.04 will be prompted to upgrade to 18.04? [14:39] I think I recall that with 16.04 it was once the first fixes were available with 16.04.1 [14:41] 364 [14:41] oops [15:00] Hi, I've updated Xubuntu 18.04 and now GPU rendering is no longer working. The update was: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S7csQfNHT4/ [15:00] Yes, this is the same thing from 3 or 4 days ago [15:01] Something now requires libegl1, and if I try to remove libegl1 it tries to remove update-manager, gnome-software, xubuntu-desktop and other packages [15:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1752901 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1752901 in libglvnd (Ubuntu) "If libegl1 is installed, modeset fails and rendering falls back to CPU (llvmpipe)" [Undecided,New] [15:23] you're not the first one today bug \1751414 [15:23] you're not the first one today bug #1751414 [15:23] bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751414 [15:24] I suspect there'll be more :-) [15:35] On my case, I use Xorg. While it was avoidable it was tolerable, but now something important depends from that and it's marked as a supported package. I told about this problem here days ago, but couldn't reproduce properly, I was not sure if was libegl1 or libopengl0 or libglvnd0, libegl1 was not marked as supported and there is the libegl1-mesa package already supported [15:38] "supported" on an unsupported distribution [15:43] But I believe libegl1 is supported (it has the check mark on synaptic: http://i.imgur.com/yonICV9.png ) [15:44] FurretUber: TJ-: diddledan: it's because we're in the middle of a migration [15:44] bionic-proposed has the fixes [15:44] (the updated packages for all of the x stack [15:45] yeah, nacc , I'm being patient :-) I've got other systems I can use while waiting for bionic. The main thing I was concerned about was helping get the right people the right information to assist [15:47] diddledan: ack, appreciate it [15:47] i think you're all looking at the right bug [15:51] I'm sorry for that messages, I was frustrated [15:51] anyone who can help me with debugging my blackouts [15:52] FurretUber: totally undestandable :) [15:52] FurretUber: we're in a bit of a bind on 18.04 (like most releases) as stuff needs more love in Ubuntu than Debian (IMO) since we don't let tests just fail === czesmir_ is now known as czesmir [18:13] nacc, but midori failed I guess and was removed from 18.04 ;( just replying to FurretUber conversation [18:13] donofrio: which conversation? [18:14] from 10:40am something about "we don't let tests just fail" you said [18:14] 10:52:59 [18:15] donofrio: it wasn't tests [18:15] the package *didn't build* [18:15] read the bug reports and the publishing history [18:15] * donofrio hanging head - understood [18:17] nacc, got a handy link to history and the like? [18:17] i sent it earlier, donofrio [18:17] oh ok I'll go back and read [18:17] donofrio: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/midori/+publishinghistory [18:18] donofrio: looking at the deletion entry for artful, e.g. [18:19] how do I sort by date in launchpad [18:21] donofrio: those are sorted by date the publishing event happened (in reverse) [18:22] so because it didn't come back from power saving it's been removed...ok...intresting [18:23] donofrio: what? [18:23] donofrio: it got removed because it was removed in debian, failed to build from source, is ummaintained an dunsupported [18:38] too cooll.....chromium works now [18:38] in wsl 18.04 ;) [18:38] no need for midori [18:38] ;) [18:38] it was failing all over itself in 17.04 [18:41] how do I disable this keyring jazz....never understood storing passwords, always seemed like a very bad idea [18:56] hi [18:56] i always get internet error [18:56] 1752108 [19:03] Boyette, uh in what app/what were you doing? [19:22] Boyette: I tried to find this bug (#1752108) in Launchpad, but couldn't find it [19:22] I think it is private [19:41] well [19:41] it must be there [19:41] i get auto report [19:41] the bug is already known [19:42] and reporrted [19:42] always comes back [19:47] Boyette: if it's private, we can't see it [19:48] Back to the official nvidia driver, but now I have no glx. This is going super well. [19:56] i just updated some packages and rebooted and now ive got no function from my nvidia driver....anyone know a workaround? [20:00] \o/ welcome to my world. [20:00] What do you mean by "no function"? [20:05] Probably the problem is this one: #1751414 [20:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1751414 [20:05] Launchpad bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] [20:09] i cant remove libegl1 the whole system depends on it....like 200 packages [20:10] 253 packages [20:10] This affects, at least, Intel Westmere and Skylake too. AMD Cedar is not affected. [20:10] how can i see if its wayland running currently [20:10] It could be removed before, after this last update it tries to remove a good portion of the system [20:12] You can use glxinfo -B to see if the GPU is being used. To see if Wayland is being used, I don't know [20:12] session is x11 [20:13] aaaand nouveau un-sweet [20:13] id remove that but thats obviously not the problem, ill just have no display at all :p [20:22] I'm trying the "install glx from proposed", I'm happy with it removing half the system at this point. [20:23] i dont see why things are moved out of proposed when theyre not working [20:23] should be common sense [20:23] unreleased release or not [20:23] I guess the thing in charge of moving them out of proposed isn't aware of the dependency here. [20:23] That libegl can't migrate before other stuff migrates, 'cos it'll break everything. [20:24] apparently it just broke everything [20:24] because nouveau is not going to get the job done [20:24] I only upgraded to bionic the hope that a new kernel would fix my weird usb issues. I got what I deserved. [20:25] i upgraded because unity is dead and kde is still a mess [20:25] kde "stable" is actually worse than this [20:25] Installing from proposed has fixed my machine fwiw. [20:26] well it gives a graphical display but its just running open source drivers is why [20:26] Unity is still supported for ages, that's a poor choice. :) [20:26] Faux: and i just saw everytrhing hsould migrate out of proposed soon [20:26] mesa etc. [20:27] Yeah. But I'm not updating for two weeks now. :) [20:27] Or rebooting, for that matter. [20:27] Faux: that's definitely not the right approach [20:27] its still breaking things though so perhaps migrating them should wait [20:27] * Faux launches Factorio. [20:27] this is the cost of running an unreleased thing [20:27] vivid: ? [20:27] vivid: the fix is to get the stuff out of proposed into the release [20:27] ok but its broken, those things from proposed are installed, my system is busted [20:28] vivid: what "things"? [20:28] vivid: sorry, i don't have enough context and am fighting my own fires right now :) [20:28] everything from proposed is installed here, broken graphics driver [20:29] well i wouldn't install *everything* from proposed [20:29] that's not what anyone said to do [20:29] there's stuff in proposed that is by definition broken [20:29] i didnt install anything from proposed to begin with, and it was broken [20:30] i installed the things people said to install, made a little progress, i can use nouveau [20:48] ok so everything back to working well again, problem was i also needed to manually update nvidia driver from proposed due to a name change nvidia-390 -> nvidia-driver-390