| kenvandine | hey robert_ancell! | 02:27 |
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| robert_ancell | kenvandine, hi! | 02:29 |
| robert_ancell | late night? | 02:29 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell, just catching up with jamesh on some stuff | 02:30 |
| kenvandine | and decided to refresh my snap build of snapper :) | 02:30 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:08 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:18 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:19 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:19 |
| oSoMoN | comment va? | 07:20 |
| flocculant | morning desktoppers - anyone know who'd be best to mention grub problems to - looks absolutely horrid - thought it was just me but I'm seeing other people complaining - here's a vid of what I'm seeing > here's hardware https://launchpadlibrarian.net/356178167/grub_menu.mp4 and changing options in a vm > https://launchpadlibrarian.net/357858777/grub.mp4 | 07:24 |
| flocculant | thought the desktop people would be best first ask ;) | 07:24 |
| seb128 | salut didrocks oSoMoN | 07:24 |
| oSoMoN | morning flocculant | 07:24 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 07:24 |
| seb128 | hey flocculant, try on #ubuntu-devel to slangasek or maybe xnox | 07:24 |
| flocculant | seb128: thanks :) | 07:24 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, plus matinal aujourd'hui ? ;) | 07:25 |
| flocculant | morning oSoMoN :) | 07:25 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, pas le choix… :) | 07:25 |
| seb128 | hehe :) | 07:25 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, seb128, flocculant | 07:30 |
| flocculant | hey didrocks :) | 07:31 |
| duflu | Morning (again) seb128, didrocks, oSoMoN, flocculant | 08:03 |
| flocculant | :) | 08:03 |
| seb128 | duflu, hey again :) | 08:03 |
| duflu | seb128, should I move "blocked" (on review) cards into Review? | 08:12 |
| seb128 | duflu, yes please | 08:12 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:57 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke | 08:57 |
| duflu | Which is ironic if I'm speaking for all, because it's not morning | 08:58 |
| duflu | Maybe that's not irony | 08:58 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:58 |
| willcooke | I'll allow it | 08:58 |
| duflu | Partial credit | 08:58 |
| Laney | yop yop | 09:03 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, Laney! | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney, happy post ff friday! | 09:05 |
| seb128 | how are you doing? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | was "feel like -19°C" here this night, brrrr | 09:05 |
| Laney | hey didrocks seb128 | 09:11 |
| Laney | i'm alright *now* | 09:12 |
| Laney | had a fun time last night fixing the heating | 09:12 |
| Laney | stupid beast from the stupid east | 09:12 |
| seb128 | urg | 09:12 |
| seb128 | wrong time to be without a working heating system! | 09:13 |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 09:13 |
| Laney | hey duflu | 09:18 |
| Laney | laptop just froze :( | 09:18 |
| seb128 | :/ | 09:18 |
| Laney | Data from the specified boot (-1) is not available: No data available | 09:19 |
| Laney | you what | 09:19 |
| seb128 | no persistant journal? | 09:19 |
| Laney | it's on | 09:20 |
| Laney | just not there | 09:20 |
| seb128 | *:( | 09:20 |
| Laney | good time to upgrade to bionic I guess | 09:21 |
| seb128 | hehe | 09:22 |
| seb128 | Laney, btw did you see that the new gst base depends on libgraphite which needs a MIR then? | 09:22 |
| seb128 | sorry | 09:23 |
| seb128 | graphene | 09:23 |
| Laney | no not yet, was waiting for c-m-proposed to tell me stuff | 09:23 |
| seb128 | k | 09:23 |
| Laney | it doesn't though | 09:25 |
| Laney | why is that | 09:25 |
| Laney | that pkg could probably go to universe at least for now | 09:29 |
| seb128 | I guess | 09:31 |
| seb128 | let me demote it | 09:32 |
| Laney | thanks! | 09:34 |
| Laney | du_flu might want to have that re-promoted for accel stuff but we could do that another time | 09:34 |
| seb128 | right | 09:35 |
| Laney | man, people are watching the archive closely | 09:37 |
| Laney | got a build failure on gst-good/armhf | 09:37 |
| Laney | already retried, waiting to build, so no log :-( | 09:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/359139689/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-armhf.gst-plugins-good1.0_1.13.1-1ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 09:38 |
| Laney | the culprit is unmasked! | 09:39 |
| duflu | Laney, to be fair, accel is broken until Mesa 18 lands. If you can beat that then only Wayland users will notice if gst is broken | 09:39 |
| Laney | wait how did you get that? | 09:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, :) | 09:39 |
| Laney | the one in the mail is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-good1.0/1.13.1-1ubuntu1/+build/14411939/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-armhf.gst-plugins-good1.0_1.13.1-1ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 09:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, I looked at it earlier and was in my firefox history | 09:39 |
| Laney | o | 09:40 |
| Laney | it kills the redirect thing but not the actual object | 09:40 |
| seb128 | /usr/include/GLES3/gl31.h:77:25: error: conflicting declaration ‘typedef khronos_ssize_t GLsizeiptr’ | 09:40 |
| seb128 | typedef khronos_ssize_t GLsizeiptr; | 09:40 |
| duflu | Because GL is awesome and you can bring your own header | 09:41 |
| Laney | that's going to fail again | 09:42 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:42 |
| seb128 | changing location, brb | 09:43 |
| Laney | I remember this though, can fix it | 09:43 |
| duflu | Crap | 09:49 |
| duflu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1751414 | 09:49 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1751414 in mesa-demos (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] | 09:49 |
| duflu | willcooke, I am about to EOW but please see bug 1751414 | 09:52 |
| ubot5` | bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751414 | 09:52 |
| seb128 | & back | 09:52 |
| duflu | Also seb128, please see bug 1751414 | 09:53 |
| Nafallo | morning | 09:54 |
| seb128 | duflu, it's weird, why a no change rebuild is hitting that bug? | 09:54 |
| seb128 | duflu, but thanks for pointing it out | 09:55 |
| seb128 | hey Nafallo | 09:55 |
| duflu | seb128, it's a dependency picked up at link time | 09:55 |
| willcooke | duflu, readomg | 09:57 |
| willcooke | reading | 09:57 |
| seb128 | that's going to clear off itself with the update from proposed? | 09:57 |
| duflu | Hopefully, but I don't know which update... Mesa 18? | 09:57 |
| duflu | Maybe | 09:57 |
| seb128 | right | 09:57 |
| willcooke | seb128, duflu - are you talking about that bug? "clear off itself"? | 09:58 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:58 |
| duflu | willcooke, yes we suspect Mesa 18 might resolve it | 09:58 |
| duflu | Or hope | 09:58 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ^ do you know about those problems? | 09:59 |
| willcooke | t_jaalton & t_seliot were talking about something which sounds similar yesterday | 09:59 |
| seb128 | duflu, anyway don't worry too much about it, it doesn't make our default session not usable so it's fine until we sort it out | 10:00 |
| tjaalton | seb128: something pulling in libegl1 | 10:00 |
| tjaalton | like plasma-framework | 10:00 |
| duflu | seb128, it does make the default session almost unusable | 10:00 |
| seb128 | duflu, what is pulling in libegl1 for you? | 10:00 |
| duflu | seb128, today's new mutter and mir | 10:00 |
| duflu | hours ago | 10:00 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ^ | 10:00 |
| tjaalton | nothing I can do except maybe ask someone to badtest fpc so that glibc would migrate and unblock mesa | 10:01 |
| seb128 | how did we end up in that situation? | 10:01 |
| tjaalton | beats me | 10:01 |
| tjaalton | the archive had an old libglvnd | 10:02 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, new mir picked up mesa 18 from proposed | 10:03 |
| seb128 | won a libegl1 depends | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | so these were built against libglvnd in proposed, and not having that version didn't block the migration to release | 10:03 |
| seb128 | which I guess it's due to a mesa shlibs? | 10:03 |
| seb128 | then migrated without it | 10:03 |
| seb128 | if it was supposed to migrate together then the shlib should have a >= 18 | 10:03 |
| seb128 | or something | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | they don't depend on mesa | 10:04 |
| tjaalton | libegl1 is from libglvnd | 10:04 |
| tjaalton | but yes, didn't expect this to happen | 10:04 |
| seb128 | same issue | 10:04 |
| seb128 | they built against libglvnc 1 | 10:04 |
| seb128 | but migrated without it | 10:04 |
| seb128 | so there is a depends that should have been versioned somewhere | 10:05 |
| seb128 | I don't even understand why we have a libegl1 in bionic which doesn't work/screw things when installed | 10:05 |
| seb128 | oh well | 10:05 |
| seb128 | we need to move those transitions out of proposed now | 10:05 |
| seb128 | that new stack has been quite complicated/problematic :/ | 10:05 |
| tjaalton | bug 1714451 | 10:06 |
| ubot5` | bug 1714451 in libglvnd (Ubuntu) "please remove libglvnd from the archive" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714451 | 10:06 |
| tjaalton | that never happened | 10:06 |
| tjaalton | so I closed it | 10:06 |
| seb128 | hum, k :/ | 10:07 |
| seb128 | how well, we are in that situation now | 10:07 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks for the info | 10:07 |
| seb128 | duflu, willcooke, we can't do much out of waiting for glibc/mesa to migrate out of proposed | 10:07 |
| seb128 | which hopefully happens today | 10:07 |
| duflu | And now I'm being criticised for not responding to a bug I wasn't subscribed to. Wonderful way to end the week | 10:08 |
| duflu | But I should end | 10:08 |
| duflu | (that's a libinput bug) | 10:08 |
| seb128 | duflu, which one? | 10:08 |
| tjaalton | fpc tests would need to be reworked somehow, so I don't think just retrying these would help | 10:08 |
| seb128 | ah | 10:08 |
| duflu | Night all | 10:08 |
| Nafallo | gnight duflu | 10:09 |
| seb128 | duflu, have a good w.e! | 10:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you think you could have a look to bug #1752803? I got too busy yesterday and didn't manage to upload the improvements from Marco before ff :/ | 10:45 |
| ubot5` | bug 1752803 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "[ffe] use locate informations in the search provider" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752803 | 10:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, also bug #1752472 | 10:45 |
| ubot5` | bug 1752472 in gnome-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "[ffe] Implement an Ubuntu Single Sign-on Provider" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752472 | 10:45 |
| Laney | fixing gst atm, will look in a bit | 10:58 |
| seb128 | thx | 11:00 |
| * didrocks is running G-S 3.27.91 | 11:14 | |
| Laney | hax0r | 11:15 |
| seb128 | it builds, ship it! | 11:15 |
| seb128 | :p | 11:15 |
| didrocks | it even runs for at least 80s without crashing | 11:15 |
| didrocks | 81 now | 11:15 |
| didrocks | 82 | 11:15 |
| didrocks | 83 | 11:15 |
| didrocks | ;) | 11:16 |
| didrocks | the new keyboard works after a limited tested | 11:16 |
| didrocks | my color choice could be better, but we can refine | 11:16 |
| * didrocks is going to fix 2 warnings due to ubuntu-dock | 11:16 | |
| seb128 | cool | 11:21 |
| didrocks | let's see how it goes, I'll run it for today a little bit more and we'll see next week when to upload (once the current transitions are done) | 11:23 |
| seb128 | sounds good | 11:24 |
| seb128 | the gnome-desktop transition cleared today so it's moving in the right direction | 11:25 |
| didrocks | nice! | 11:25 |
| willcooke | didrocks, if you're making changes to G-S, is it worth looking at this today as well? | 11:39 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1751484 | 11:39 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1751484 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Captive portal browser/device misreported" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:39 |
| didrocks | willcooke: do you know what browser this is? | 11:40 |
| didrocks | I think the captive portal is a firefox session, correct? | 11:40 |
| willcooke | I just had a look, and I think we can "just" change a setting inside portal-help/main.js | 11:40 |
| didrocks | outside of G-S | 11:40 |
| * didrocks looks | 11:40 | |
| willcooke | didrocks, no I think it's a webkitview | 11:40 |
| didrocks | ahhhh portal | 11:40 |
| willcooke | I /think/ inside PortalWindow, we need to get the settings of the webView and then use webkit_settings_set_user_agent () | 11:41 |
| willcooke | I was looking at it just now | 11:41 |
| willcooke | I have an idea, but I'm struggling to understand how to get at the Settings via JS | 11:42 |
| willcooke | around line 147 | 11:42 |
| didrocks | willcooke: I'm even usure how we can check the fix though | 11:42 |
| willcooke | didrocks, I've got a portal here (well, someone has) I can test | 11:42 |
| willcooke | and then I was going to use wireshark to sniff it | 11:42 |
| willcooke | actually, after 148 | 11:43 |
| didrocks | willcooke: your issue is testing it, correct? | 11:45 |
| didrocks | like inspect the properties and settings of the js object dynamically? | 11:45 |
| Laney | I think in bionic it contains Ubuntu already | 11:46 |
| didrocks | ok, I tried to instantiate it in the current process via looking glass | 11:47 |
| didrocks | and creating the object locks up the Shell | 11:48 |
| jbicha | good morning | 11:48 |
| didrocks | hey jbicha | 11:48 |
| jbicha | webkit2gtk has a new useragent string thing but I haven't figured out the right syntax yet to get it actually working | 11:50 |
| jbicha | https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-webkit/webkit.git/commit/?id=042abb234 | 11:50 |
| jbicha | it's been on my to-do list to try different things until I get it to stick | 11:51 |
| Laney | ah it doesn't work? | 11:51 |
| jbicha | not sure if that's the same issue you're talking about or something different | 11:51 |
| Laney | that sounds like a good way to fix it | 11:52 |
| jbicha | I'm pretty sure that the Captive Portal doesn't identify itself as Safari, it could be some website "interpreting" user agents :( | 11:52 |
| jbicha | ok, I guess you can assign it to me and I'll try to figure it out this weekend | 11:53 |
| jbicha | didrocks: can you push your gnome-shell to the GNOME3 Staging PPA? | 11:54 |
| didrocks | jbicha: sure, let me finish testing a build with my rebased patch for g-c-c | 11:55 |
| didrocks | jbicha: btw, I think for g-c-c, you can push to master directly | 11:55 |
| didrocks | jbicha: done | 11:57 |
| willcooke | ARRRRRRGH | 11:57 |
| willcooke | sorry didrocks, back now | 11:57 |
| willcooke | Internet died | 11:57 |
| * willcooke reads logs | 11:58 | |
| willcooke | logs aren't up to date yet | 11:58 |
| willcooke | ohh | 11:58 |
| willcooke | also #endmeeting | 11:58 |
| didrocks | :p | 11:58 |
| didrocks | jbicha: hum, g-c-c needs a newer meson apparently | 11:58 |
| jbicha | didrocks: grab it from bionic-proposed | 11:59 |
| didrocks | doing | 11:59 |
| willcooke | k, logs updated | 12:02 |
| willcooke | I'll sniff it on bionic now and report back | 12:02 |
| jbicha | didrocks: I just pushed a couple commits to our gnome-shell branch | 12:03 |
| didrocks | jbicha: argh, I as doing this as well | 12:06 |
| didrocks | ok, conflict now | 12:06 |
| didrocks | ok, was mostly the same change (for libnm) | 12:07 |
| didrocks | do you reupload a version to the ppa or should I? | 12:07 |
| didrocks | hum, you should version the nm dep for backports | 12:08 |
| didrocks | and the build-dep is missing | 12:08 |
| * didrocks fixes | 12:08 | |
| didrocks | your version will still FTBFS | 12:08 |
| didrocks | (weird that libmn-* and glib ones don't dep on libnm-dev) | 12:08 |
| didrocks | jbicha: ok, my g-c-c sound patch rebase is working | 12:21 |
| didrocks | found another regression (maximize don't work), will add it to your bug if it's not already | 12:22 |
| didrocks | and pushing the changes to the master branch | 12:22 |
| jbicha | didrocks: Maximize works fine for me… | 12:30 |
| jbicha | I'm using Ambiance if that makes a difference | 12:30 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I'm using the daily image, adding g-c-c | 12:36 |
| didrocks | weird, but to be confirmed then, can be related to vm resolution | 12:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, does it work on other csd softwares? | 12:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: It did with gedit for me | 12:38 |
| seb128 | k | 12:38 |
| seb128 | well, minor issue and easy to tests/look at later on if needed | 12:38 |
| didrocks | (which I started right away) | 12:38 |
| didrocks | yeah | 12:38 |
| willcooke | didrocks, jbicha - looks like I'm seeing this in Bionic: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/11.0 Safari/605.1.15\r\n | 12:46 |
| didrocks | seems like jbicha has investigated it a little bit. Sad that we can't instantiate the webview without crashing the Shell in the same process | 12:48 |
| didrocks | that would make the property to set way easier | 12:48 |
| willcooke | heh | 12:49 |
| willcooke | I'm also seeing conn-checker do the look up to connectivity-check.u.c | 12:50 |
| willcooke | and also one to nmcheck.gnome.org | 12:50 |
| didrocks | oh, interesting | 12:50 |
| jbicha | the Safari part is intentional; that's how webkit works | 12:50 |
| willcooke | I think that second one is probably what it does to actually get to the portal login page | 12:50 |
| jbicha | sort of like how Internet Explorer has Mozilla in its user agent :( | 12:51 |
| jbicha | what's missing is that it should also say Ubuntu | 12:51 |
| jbicha | (at least that's what Fedora is doing) | 12:51 |
| willcooke | jbicha, yeah, like the Firefox one... Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64) etc | 12:51 |
| jbicha | yes it will look sort of like that | 12:52 |
| didrocks | So, Fedora has a patch we can cherry-pick? | 12:52 |
| Laney | we have the patch | 12:52 |
| Laney | it's just not being instansiated properly | 12:52 |
| didrocks | (btw, I think we shouldn't hardcode ubuntu, but rather read /etc/os-release) | 12:52 |
| Laney | that's what jbicha said he was going to work on | 12:53 |
| jbicha | I think the Safari part is there because some web sites have quirks for webkit but they wrongly sniff for "Safari" :( so it's generally better for users to include Safari in the useragent | 12:53 |
| willcooke | I added some comments here: https://trello.com/c/dxhWtGV6 | 12:53 |
| willcooke | jbicha, yeah, I dont think we can move too far away from what is already there, random stuff would break | 12:53 |
| jbicha | mcatanzaro told me "I don't think you can pass the flag to CMake like that... it's a preprocessor define, not a CMake argument | 12:53 |
| jbicha | Try adding it to CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS instead. Or the CPPFLAGS envvar. (It's really only needed by the preprocessor, but there is no CMAKE_CPPFLAGS.)" | 12:54 |
| jbicha | didrocks: I just pushed the avatar upgrade patches to our g-c-c bzr. I can upload this & g-shell to the Staging PPA now if you like? | 12:56 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I have already uploaded g-s to the staging PPA with latest changes | 12:57 |
| didrocks | but yeah, feel free to upload g-c-c :) | 12:57 |
| Laney | yeah, or adding an option in the patch would let you use -D in the cmake invocation | 12:57 |
| Laney | (with add_define or whatever it is) | 12:59 |
| jbicha | didrocks: done, the only other g-c-c issue for me is https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/3 which is a pain | 13:02 |
| didrocks | yeah, I read it on your bug report… | 13:03 |
| jbicha | no reaction from GNOME yet, I guess I'll try again | 13:04 |
| seb128 | jbicha, seems easy to do a g-i-t upload to exclude that icon | 13:08 |
| seb128 | no? | 13:08 |
| jbicha | seb128: yeah, I guess that was basically my #2 (except GNOME Design may not want to do it upstream) | 13:09 |
| seb128 | well, that would unblock us in Ubuntu easily | 13:10 |
| seb128 | still worth resolving upstream, but meanwhile... | 13:10 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, jbicha: against which project shall I file that feature request to allow searching apps by their names in several languages? gnome-shell? | 13:28 |
| jbicha | yes | 13:28 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, just for the record, that 's something we discussed in the past and didn't agree was a good idea ... but doesn't hurt to see what upstream thinks | 13:29 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, or you would need a way to configure what languages you want to enable, not a common option/unsure what that would fit in the UI | 13:31 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, interesting, are there logs of those discussions? | 13:31 |
| oSoMoN | yeah, you would need a way to select which languages you're interested in I guess, that's not a trivial on/off switch | 13:31 |
| oSoMoN | or it could default to enabling search for all compiled locales | 13:32 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, if you enabled to search by english description by default then a french user who has no clue of english would get confuse about why his input returns things he had no idea exist | 13:33 |
| seb128 | like you want to find you baguette and type "bag" | 13:33 |
| seb128 | and your sac is listed | 13:33 |
| seb128 | wth :p | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | we just need to default to french :) | 13:34 |
| kenvandine | problem solved | 13:34 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 13:34 |
| * didrocks updates the seeds | 13:34 | |
| seb128 | except oSoMoN tries to pretend he's not french :p | 13:34 |
| kenvandine | lol | 13:34 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine, happy friday! | 13:34 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: so they got to you too? :( | 13:35 |
| kenvandine | seb128, happy last day before sprint! | 13:35 |
| jbicha | lol | 13:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine :) | 13:35 |
| kenvandine | time to cram | 13:35 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I don't know, it has been a while and I know we discussed that a couple of time on IRC | 13:36 |
| * kenvandine just checked the currency conversion... if i want to get out $100 in cash when i get there, i need to 25493 florint | 13:36 | |
| kenvandine | i remember going to the ATM the first time i went to budapest and was in shock at the minimum withdrawal :) | 13:37 |
| oSoMoN | I'm not pretending, I'm forgetting how to be French :) | 13:37 |
| oSoMoN | how much on average does a beer cost in florints is the important question I need to answer before Sunday | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, it's been a while, but last time i was there i think it was less than $2 | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | so maybe like 500 forint | 13:44 |
| mdeslaur | yeah, I remember less than $2 too | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | Laney: hey, got any luck to check that nautilus ffe? :) | 16:09 |
| Laney | I'm going to, don't worry. | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | seb128, https://gitlab.gnome.org/Ubuntu/gnome-software/merge_requests/1 | 16:12 |
| kenvandine | seb128, could you please review? | 16:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is the string coming from m_pt? | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yes, it's what he wanted me to change it to back when we SRU'd the classic snap installation fix | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | but it would have required translations | 16:14 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, unsure what you are asking for. The code change is trivial, the string comes from design and I'm not an upstream g-s hacker so can't approve it for upstream commit | 16:15 |
| seb128 | looks good to me | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | no... this is to our branch :) | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | the Ubuntu group | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | you should be able to approve it | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | if not, our setup is wrong :) | 16:16 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 16:16 |
| seb128 | btw I don't like the string much | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | :/ | 16:16 |
| seb128 | but if it comes from m_pt I'm not going to argue :p | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:17 |
| seb128 | I'm just not sure that "home folder" speaks to non tech users | 16:17 |
| seb128 | I would have said "your user directory" or something | 16:17 |
| Laney | your files | 16:18 |
| seb128 | or that | 16:18 |
| seb128 | mpt, do we use "home folder" in other places? is that a thing users are familiar with? | 16:18 |
| mpt | seb128, both Nautilus and the filepicker label it “Home”, with tooltip “Open your personal folder”, so … kinda? | 16:22 |
| mpt | And Ubuntu’s “How to back up” help topic says “…it is best to back up the entire Home folder” | 16:25 |
| seb128 | mpt, ok, I'm using a locale that translate it in a way that makes it look less weird | 16:25 |
| seb128 | I was just checking | 16:25 |
| seb128 | wfm | 16:25 |
| mpt | Translations are allowed to be more elegant than the original. :-) | 16:26 |
| seb128 | :) | 16:30 |
| mpt | Oh, I just read up … I’d forgotten about that string. This week I wrote something similar for a different context: “This app is unconfined. It can access all personal files and system resources.” | 16:31 |
| seb128 | that sounds better to me | 16:33 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ wdyt? | 16:33 |
| jbicha | didrocks: can we upload gnome-shell to bionic now? my thinking is that I want to get it down before the evolution transition and I'm concerned about there being a beta freeze next week | 16:36 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I don't notice any issues on my end, but I would like a little bit of more battle testing | 16:36 |
| didrocks | so ideally, Monday morning, which enables us to fix any followup issues | 16:37 |
| didrocks | also, we need an approved FFe | 16:37 |
| jbicha | if I flip the order and there's any reason why evolution gets stuck (glibc not migrating yet looks most likely?) than gnome-shell will be stuck too | 16:37 |
| didrocks | I still don't think we should rush in, I'm really near EOW, it's been tested for only half a day, got 0 releases since 2.26 cycle… | 16:38 |
| didrocks | 3.26* | 16:38 |
| Laney | I'd file one FFe for all of 3.28 | 16:38 |
| didrocks | jbicha: have you done that already? ^ It seems paperwork first in any case :) | 16:39 |
| jbicha | didrocks: it's been tested by other people before today ;) | 16:39 |
| didrocks | jbicha: with the bionic stack? | 16:39 |
| jbicha | didrocks: yes, it's been in the gnome3 staging ppa all week | 16:39 |
| didrocks | jbicha: ? I've redone a whole update, refreshed patches and so on because the VCS wasn't updated? :( | 16:40 |
| jbicha | didrocks: I'm sorry we duplicated work then :( | 16:40 |
| jbicha | I wish we were using git where it's easier to have separate branches | 16:41 |
| didrocks | so, you already ported all the patches and such? | 16:41 |
| jbicha | I wasn't happy that I created a bionic branch for NetworkManager than was named inaccurately for several months this cycle | 16:41 |
| didrocks | if someone is monitoring the transition over the week-end and be ready to fix any failthrough, that's fine by me (once the FFe is done and acked) | 16:43 |
| jbicha | didrocks: yes :( https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging/+packages?field.name_filter=gnome-shell&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=bionic | 16:43 |
| didrocks | sounds like it was without the sound patch though | 16:45 |
| jbicha | yes and without updated theming | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | seb128, mpt that does sound better! | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | mpt, app or application? | 16:46 |
| mpt | I guess “application” while Gnome still uses that, but pretty sure people nowadays will understand either | 16:48 |
| didrocks | and no patch cleaned up with function() | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | mpt, agreed | 16:48 |
| * kenvandine changes :) | 16:48 | |
| kenvandine | seb128, new MR up for review | 16:52 |
| jbicha | Laney: was LP: #1752928 sort of what you had in mind? | 16:55 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1752928 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[FFe] GNOME 3.28" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752928 | 16:55 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: hey, speaking of the gitlab ubuntu group, what's the outcome then? | 17:12 |
| Trevinho | as there was some discussion about not using groups from upstream | 17:13 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: (hey too! :)) was also part of that discussion iirc, right? | 17:13 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: I wasn't invited to the meeting | 17:13 |
| didrocks | so, unsure | 17:14 |
| Trevinho | ack | 17:15 |
| jbicha | didrocks: I did the function() clean up too, the good news is how similar our work was :| | 17:20 |
| didrocks | use the VCS luke ;) | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho, basically everyone was supportive of us using it | 17:24 |
| Trevinho | ah ok | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho, but they will likely reorganize groups at some point | 17:25 |
| Trevinho | so I can use for the extension too? | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | yes | 17:25 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: I pinged you on github btw, please answer the extension author :) | 17:28 |
| didrocks | (pinged you yesterday evening IIRC) | 17:28 |
| Trevinho | ah, ok... sorry but i've too many github notifications on these days, filtering them isn't the easiest thing | 17:29 |
| seb128 | have a nice w.e desktopers! | 17:48 |
| willcooke | see ya seb128 | 17:49 |
| seb128 | willcooke, see you in budapest :) | 17:49 |
| willcooke | yay | 17:49 |
| jbicha | no irc desktop team meeting next week, right? | 17:51 |
| willcooke | jbicha, yeah most likely | 17:56 |
| Laney | bye seb128 | 17:56 |
| Laney | safe trip | 17:56 |
| willcooke | jbicha, once the agenda becomes clearer I'll let you know, if you're around for some hangouts that might be useful for all of us | 17:57 |
| oSoMoN | have a good week-end everyone, see ya in Hungary | 17:57 |
| Laney | safe travels dawgs | 18:19 |
| * willcooke EOW too | 18:30 | |
| willcooke | night all | 18:30 |
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