[02:27] hey robert_ancell! [02:29] kenvandine, hi! [02:29] late night? [02:30] robert_ancell, just catching up with jamesh on some stuff [02:30] and decided to refresh my snap build of snapper :) === maclin1 is now known as maclin [07:08] good morning desktopers [07:18] good morning [07:19] good morning desktoppers [07:19] salut didrocks [07:20] comment va? [07:24] morning desktoppers - anyone know who'd be best to mention grub problems to - looks absolutely horrid - thought it was just me but I'm seeing other people complaining - here's a vid of what I'm seeing > here's hardware https://launchpadlibrarian.net/356178167/grub_menu.mp4 and changing options in a vm > https://launchpadlibrarian.net/357858777/grub.mp4 [07:24] thought the desktop people would be best first ask ;) [07:24] salut didrocks oSoMoN [07:24] morning flocculant [07:24] salut seb128 [07:24] hey flocculant, try on #ubuntu-devel to slangasek or maybe xnox [07:24] seb128: thanks :) [07:25] oSoMoN, plus matinal aujourd'hui ? ;) [07:25] morning oSoMoN :) [07:25] seb128, pas le choix… :) [07:25] hehe :) [07:30] salut oSoMoN, seb128, flocculant [07:31] hey didrocks :) [08:03] Morning (again) seb128, didrocks, oSoMoN, flocculant [08:03] :) [08:03] duflu, hey again :) [08:12] seb128, should I move "blocked" (on review) cards into Review? [08:12] duflu, yes please [08:57] morning all [08:57] Morning willcooke [08:58] Which is ironic if I'm speaking for all, because it's not morning [08:58] Maybe that's not irony [08:58] :) [08:58] I'll allow it [08:58] Partial credit [09:03] yop yop [09:04] hey willcooke, Laney! [09:05] hey willcooke Laney, happy post ff friday! [09:05] how are you doing? [09:05] was "feel like -19°C" here this night, brrrr [09:11] hey didrocks seb128 [09:12] i'm alright *now* [09:12] had a fun time last night fixing the heating [09:12] stupid beast from the stupid east [09:12] urg [09:13] wrong time to be without a working heating system! [09:13] Morning Laney [09:18] hey duflu [09:18] laptop just froze :( [09:18] :/ [09:19] Data from the specified boot (-1) is not available: No data available [09:19] you what [09:19] no persistant journal? [09:20] it's on [09:20] just not there [09:20] *:( [09:21] good time to upgrade to bionic I guess [09:22] hehe [09:22] Laney, btw did you see that the new gst base depends on libgraphite which needs a MIR then? [09:23] sorry [09:23] graphene [09:23] no not yet, was waiting for c-m-proposed to tell me stuff [09:23] k [09:25] it doesn't though [09:25] why is that [09:29] that pkg could probably go to universe at least for now [09:31] I guess [09:32] let me demote it [09:34] thanks! [09:34] du_flu might want to have that re-promoted for accel stuff but we could do that another time [09:35] right [09:37] man, people are watching the archive closely [09:37] got a build failure on gst-good/armhf [09:37] already retried, waiting to build, so no log :-( [09:38] Laney, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/359139689/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-armhf.gst-plugins-good1.0_1.13.1-1ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz [09:39] the culprit is unmasked! [09:39] Laney, to be fair, accel is broken until Mesa 18 lands. If you can beat that then only Wayland users will notice if gst is broken [09:39] wait how did you get that? [09:39] Laney, :) [09:39] the one in the mail is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-good1.0/1.13.1-1ubuntu1/+build/14411939/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-armhf.gst-plugins-good1.0_1.13.1-1ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz [09:39] Laney, I looked at it earlier and was in my firefox history [09:40] o [09:40] it kills the redirect thing but not the actual object [09:40] /usr/include/GLES3/gl31.h:77:25: error: conflicting declaration ‘typedef khronos_ssize_t GLsizeiptr’ [09:40] typedef khronos_ssize_t GLsizeiptr; [09:41] Because GL is awesome and you can bring your own header [09:42] that's going to fail again [09:42] yeah [09:43] changing location, brb [09:43] I remember this though, can fix it [09:49] Crap [09:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1751414 [09:49] Ubuntu bug 1751414 in mesa-demos (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] [09:52] willcooke, I am about to EOW but please see bug 1751414 [09:52] bug 1751414 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Missing Wayland login option and missing GL acceleration, after installing libegl1" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751414 [09:52] & back [09:53] Also seb128, please see bug 1751414 [09:54] morning [09:54] duflu, it's weird, why a no change rebuild is hitting that bug? [09:55] duflu, but thanks for pointing it out [09:55] hey Nafallo [09:55] seb128, it's a dependency picked up at link time [09:57] duflu, readomg [09:57] reading [09:57] that's going to clear off itself with the update from proposed? [09:57] Hopefully, but I don't know which update... Mesa 18? [09:57] Maybe [09:57] right [09:58] seb128, duflu - are you talking about that bug? "clear off itself"? [09:58] yes [09:58] willcooke, yes we suspect Mesa 18 might resolve it [09:58] Or hope [09:59] tjaalton, ^ do you know about those problems? [09:59] t_jaalton & t_seliot were talking about something which sounds similar yesterday [10:00] duflu, anyway don't worry too much about it, it doesn't make our default session not usable so it's fine until we sort it out [10:00] seb128: something pulling in libegl1 [10:00] like plasma-framework [10:00] seb128, it does make the default session almost unusable [10:00] duflu, what is pulling in libegl1 for you? [10:00] seb128, today's new mutter and mir [10:00] hours ago [10:00] tjaalton, ^ [10:01] nothing I can do except maybe ask someone to badtest fpc so that glibc would migrate and unblock mesa [10:01] how did we end up in that situation? [10:01] beats me [10:02] the archive had an old libglvnd [10:03] tjaalton, new mir picked up mesa 18 from proposed [10:03] won a libegl1 depends [10:03] so these were built against libglvnd in proposed, and not having that version didn't block the migration to release [10:03] which I guess it's due to a mesa shlibs? [10:03] then migrated without it [10:03] if it was supposed to migrate together then the shlib should have a >= 18 [10:03] or something [10:04] they don't depend on mesa [10:04] libegl1 is from libglvnd [10:04] but yes, didn't expect this to happen [10:04] same issue [10:04] they built against libglvnc 1 [10:04] but migrated without it [10:05] so there is a depends that should have been versioned somewhere [10:05] I don't even understand why we have a libegl1 in bionic which doesn't work/screw things when installed [10:05] oh well [10:05] we need to move those transitions out of proposed now [10:05] that new stack has been quite complicated/problematic :/ [10:06] bug 1714451 [10:06] bug 1714451 in libglvnd (Ubuntu) "please remove libglvnd from the archive" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714451 [10:06] that never happened [10:06] so I closed it [10:07] hum, k :/ [10:07] how well, we are in that situation now [10:07] tjaalton, thanks for the info [10:07] duflu, willcooke, we can't do much out of waiting for glibc/mesa to migrate out of proposed [10:07] which hopefully happens today [10:08] And now I'm being criticised for not responding to a bug I wasn't subscribed to. Wonderful way to end the week [10:08] But I should end [10:08] (that's a libinput bug) [10:08] duflu, which one? [10:08] fpc tests would need to be reworked somehow, so I don't think just retrying these would help [10:08] ah [10:08] Night all [10:09] gnight duflu [10:09] duflu, have a good w.e! [10:45] Laney, do you think you could have a look to bug #1752803? I got too busy yesterday and didn't manage to upload the improvements from Marco before ff :/ [10:45] bug 1752803 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "[ffe] use locate informations in the search provider" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752803 [10:45] Laney, also bug #1752472 [10:45] bug 1752472 in gnome-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "[ffe] Implement an Ubuntu Single Sign-on Provider" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752472 [10:58] fixing gst atm, will look in a bit [11:00] thx [11:14] * didrocks is running G-S 3.27.91 [11:15] hax0r [11:15] it builds, ship it! [11:15] :p [11:15] it even runs for at least 80s without crashing [11:15] 81 now [11:15] 82 [11:15] 83 [11:16] ;) [11:16] the new keyboard works after a limited tested [11:16] my color choice could be better, but we can refine [11:16] * didrocks is going to fix 2 warnings due to ubuntu-dock [11:21] cool [11:23] let's see how it goes, I'll run it for today a little bit more and we'll see next week when to upload (once the current transitions are done) [11:24] sounds good [11:25] the gnome-desktop transition cleared today so it's moving in the right direction [11:25] nice! [11:39] didrocks, if you're making changes to G-S, is it worth looking at this today as well? [11:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1751484 [11:39] Ubuntu bug 1751484 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Captive portal browser/device misreported" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:40] willcooke: do you know what browser this is? [11:40] I think the captive portal is a firefox session, correct? [11:40] I just had a look, and I think we can "just" change a setting inside portal-help/main.js [11:40] outside of G-S [11:40] * didrocks looks [11:40] didrocks, no I think it's a webkitview [11:40] ahhhh portal [11:41] I /think/ inside PortalWindow, we need to get the settings of the webView and then use webkit_settings_set_user_agent () [11:41] I was looking at it just now [11:42] I have an idea, but I'm struggling to understand how to get at the Settings via JS [11:42] around line 147 [11:42] willcooke: I'm even usure how we can check the fix though [11:42] didrocks, I've got a portal here (well, someone has) I can test [11:42] and then I was going to use wireshark to sniff it [11:43] actually, after 148 [11:45] willcooke: your issue is testing it, correct? [11:45] like inspect the properties and settings of the js object dynamically? [11:46] I think in bionic it contains Ubuntu already [11:47] ok, I tried to instantiate it in the current process via looking glass [11:48] and creating the object locks up the Shell [11:48] good morning [11:48] hey jbicha [11:50] webkit2gtk has a new useragent string thing but I haven't figured out the right syntax yet to get it actually working [11:50] https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-webkit/webkit.git/commit/?id=042abb234 [11:51] it's been on my to-do list to try different things until I get it to stick [11:51] ah it doesn't work? [11:51] not sure if that's the same issue you're talking about or something different [11:52] that sounds like a good way to fix it [11:52] I'm pretty sure that the Captive Portal doesn't identify itself as Safari, it could be some website "interpreting" user agents :( [11:53] ok, I guess you can assign it to me and I'll try to figure it out this weekend [11:54] didrocks: can you push your gnome-shell to the GNOME3 Staging PPA? [11:55] jbicha: sure, let me finish testing a build with my rebased patch for g-c-c [11:55] jbicha: btw, I think for g-c-c, you can push to master directly [11:57] jbicha: done [11:57] ARRRRRRGH [11:57] sorry didrocks, back now [11:57] Internet died [11:58] * willcooke reads logs [11:58] logs aren't up to date yet [11:58] ohh [11:58] also #endmeeting [11:58] :p [11:58] jbicha: hum, g-c-c needs a newer meson apparently [11:59] didrocks: grab it from bionic-proposed [11:59] doing [12:02] k, logs updated [12:02] I'll sniff it on bionic now and report back [12:03] didrocks: I just pushed a couple commits to our gnome-shell branch [12:06] jbicha: argh, I as doing this as well [12:06] ok, conflict now [12:07] ok, was mostly the same change (for libnm) [12:07] do you reupload a version to the ppa or should I? [12:08] hum, you should version the nm dep for backports [12:08] and the build-dep is missing [12:08] * didrocks fixes [12:08] your version will still FTBFS [12:08] (weird that libmn-* and glib ones don't dep on libnm-dev) [12:21] jbicha: ok, my g-c-c sound patch rebase is working [12:22] found another regression (maximize don't work), will add it to your bug if it's not already [12:22] and pushing the changes to the master branch [12:30] didrocks: Maximize works fine for me… [12:30] I'm using Ambiance if that makes a difference [12:36] jbicha: I'm using the daily image, adding g-c-c [12:37] weird, but to be confirmed then, can be related to vm resolution [12:37] didrocks, does it work on other csd softwares? [12:38] seb128: It did with gedit for me [12:38] k [12:38] well, minor issue and easy to tests/look at later on if needed [12:38] (which I started right away) [12:38] yeah [12:46] didrocks, jbicha - looks like I'm seeing this in Bionic: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/11.0 Safari/605.1.15\r\n [12:48] seems like jbicha has investigated it a little bit. Sad that we can't instantiate the webview without crashing the Shell in the same process [12:48] that would make the property to set way easier [12:49] heh [12:50] I'm also seeing conn-checker do the look up to connectivity-check.u.c [12:50] and also one to nmcheck.gnome.org [12:50] oh, interesting [12:50] the Safari part is intentional; that's how webkit works [12:50] I think that second one is probably what it does to actually get to the portal login page [12:51] sort of like how Internet Explorer has Mozilla in its user agent :( [12:51] what's missing is that it should also say Ubuntu [12:51] (at least that's what Fedora is doing) [12:51] jbicha, yeah, like the Firefox one... Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64) etc [12:52] yes it will look sort of like that [12:52] So, Fedora has a patch we can cherry-pick? [12:52] we have the patch [12:52] it's just not being instansiated properly [12:52] (btw, I think we shouldn't hardcode ubuntu, but rather read /etc/os-release) [12:53] that's what jbicha said he was going to work on [12:53] I think the Safari part is there because some web sites have quirks for webkit but they wrongly sniff for "Safari" :( so it's generally better for users to include Safari in the useragent [12:53] I added some comments here: https://trello.com/c/dxhWtGV6 [12:53] jbicha, yeah, I dont think we can move too far away from what is already there, random stuff would break [12:53] mcatanzaro told me "I don't think you can pass the flag to CMake like that... it's a preprocessor define, not a CMake argument [12:54] Try adding it to CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS instead. Or the CPPFLAGS envvar. (It's really only needed by the preprocessor, but there is no CMAKE_CPPFLAGS.)" [12:56] didrocks: I just pushed the avatar upgrade patches to our g-c-c bzr. I can upload this & g-shell to the Staging PPA now if you like? [12:57] jbicha: I have already uploaded g-s to the staging PPA with latest changes [12:57] but yeah, feel free to upload g-c-c :) [12:57] yeah, or adding an option in the patch would let you use -D in the cmake invocation [12:59] (with add_define or whatever it is) [13:02] didrocks: done, the only other g-c-c issue for me is https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/3 which is a pain [13:03] yeah, I read it on your bug report… [13:04] no reaction from GNOME yet, I guess I'll try again [13:08] jbicha, seems easy to do a g-i-t upload to exclude that icon [13:08] no? [13:09] seb128: yeah, I guess that was basically my #2 (except GNOME Design may not want to do it upstream) [13:10] well, that would unblock us in Ubuntu easily [13:10] still worth resolving upstream, but meanwhile... [13:28] seb128, jbicha: against which project shall I file that feature request to allow searching apps by their names in several languages? gnome-shell? [13:28] yes [13:29] oSoMoN, just for the record, that 's something we discussed in the past and didn't agree was a good idea ... but doesn't hurt to see what upstream thinks [13:31] oSoMoN, or you would need a way to configure what languages you want to enable, not a common option/unsure what that would fit in the UI [13:31] seb128, interesting, are there logs of those discussions? [13:31] yeah, you would need a way to select which languages you're interested in I guess, that's not a trivial on/off switch [13:32] or it could default to enabling search for all compiled locales [13:33] oSoMoN, if you enabled to search by english description by default then a french user who has no clue of english would get confuse about why his input returns things he had no idea exist [13:33] like you want to find you baguette and type "bag" [13:33] and your sac is listed [13:33] wth :p [13:34] we just need to default to french :) [13:34] problem solved [13:34] :-D [13:34] * didrocks updates the seeds [13:34] except oSoMoN tries to pretend he's not french :p [13:34] lol [13:34] hey kenvandine, happy friday! [13:35] kenvandine: so they got to you too? :( [13:35] seb128, happy last day before sprint! [13:35] lol [13:35] kenvandine :) [13:35] time to cram [13:36] oSoMoN, I don't know, it has been a while and I know we discussed that a couple of time on IRC [13:36] * kenvandine just checked the currency conversion... if i want to get out $100 in cash when i get there, i need to 25493 florint [13:37] i remember going to the ATM the first time i went to budapest and was in shock at the minimum withdrawal :) [13:37] I'm not pretending, I'm forgetting how to be French :) [13:39] how much on average does a beer cost in florints is the important question I need to answer before Sunday [13:44] oSoMoN, it's been a while, but last time i was there i think it was less than $2 [13:44] so maybe like 500 forint [13:47] yeah, I remember less than $2 too [16:09] Laney: hey, got any luck to check that nautilus ffe? :) [16:10] I'm going to, don't worry. [16:12] seb128, https://gitlab.gnome.org/Ubuntu/gnome-software/merge_requests/1 [16:13] seb128, could you please review? [16:14] kenvandine, is the string coming from m_pt? [16:14] seb128, yes, it's what he wanted me to change it to back when we SRU'd the classic snap installation fix [16:14] but it would have required translations [16:15] kenvandine, unsure what you are asking for. The code change is trivial, the string comes from design and I'm not an upstream g-s hacker so can't approve it for upstream commit [16:15] looks good to me [16:15] no... this is to our branch :) [16:15] the Ubuntu group [16:16] you should be able to approve it [16:16] if not, our setup is wrong :) [16:16] oh ok [16:16] btw I don't like the string much [16:16] :/ [16:16] but if it comes from m_pt I'm not going to argue :p [16:17] :) [16:17] I'm just not sure that "home folder" speaks to non tech users [16:17] I would have said "your user directory" or something [16:18] your files [16:18] or that [16:18] mpt, do we use "home folder" in other places? is that a thing users are familiar with? [16:22] seb128, both Nautilus and the filepicker label it “Home”, with tooltip “Open your personal folder”, so … kinda? [16:25] And Ubuntu’s “How to back up” help topic says “…it is best to back up the entire Home folder” [16:25] mpt, ok, I'm using a locale that translate it in a way that makes it look less weird [16:25] I was just checking [16:25] wfm [16:26] Translations are allowed to be more elegant than the original. :-) [16:30] :) [16:31] Oh, I just read up … I’d forgotten about that string. This week I wrote something similar for a different context: “This app is unconfined. It can access all personal files and system resources.” [16:33] that sounds better to me [16:33] kenvandine, ^ wdyt? [16:36] didrocks: can we upload gnome-shell to bionic now? my thinking is that I want to get it down before the evolution transition and I'm concerned about there being a beta freeze next week [16:36] jbicha: I don't notice any issues on my end, but I would like a little bit of more battle testing [16:37] so ideally, Monday morning, which enables us to fix any followup issues [16:37] also, we need an approved FFe [16:37] if I flip the order and there's any reason why evolution gets stuck (glibc not migrating yet looks most likely?) than gnome-shell will be stuck too [16:38] I still don't think we should rush in, I'm really near EOW, it's been tested for only half a day, got 0 releases since 2.26 cycle… [16:38] 3.26* [16:38] I'd file one FFe for all of 3.28 [16:39] jbicha: have you done that already? ^ It seems paperwork first in any case :) [16:39] didrocks: it's been tested by other people before today ;) [16:39] jbicha: with the bionic stack? [16:39] didrocks: yes, it's been in the gnome3 staging ppa all week [16:40] jbicha: ? I've redone a whole update, refreshed patches and so on because the VCS wasn't updated? :( [16:40] didrocks: I'm sorry we duplicated work then :( [16:41] I wish we were using git where it's easier to have separate branches [16:41] so, you already ported all the patches and such? [16:41] I wasn't happy that I created a bionic branch for NetworkManager than was named inaccurately for several months this cycle [16:43] if someone is monitoring the transition over the week-end and be ready to fix any failthrough, that's fine by me (once the FFe is done and acked) [16:43] didrocks: yes :( https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging/+packages?field.name_filter=gnome-shell&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=bionic [16:45] sounds like it was without the sound patch though [16:46] yes and without updated theming [16:46] seb128, mpt that does sound better! [16:46] mpt, app or application? [16:48] I guess “application” while Gnome still uses that, but pretty sure people nowadays will understand either [16:48] and no patch cleaned up with function() [16:48] mpt, agreed [16:48] * kenvandine changes :) [16:52] seb128, new MR up for review [16:55] Laney: was LP: #1752928 sort of what you had in mind? [16:55] Launchpad bug 1752928 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[FFe] GNOME 3.28" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752928 [17:12] kenvandine: hey, speaking of the gitlab ubuntu group, what's the outcome then? [17:13] as there was some discussion about not using groups from upstream [17:13] didrocks: (hey too! :)) was also part of that discussion iirc, right? [17:13] Trevinho: I wasn't invited to the meeting [17:14] so, unsure [17:15] ack [17:20] didrocks: I did the function() clean up too, the good news is how similar our work was :| [17:21] use the VCS luke ;) [17:24] Trevinho, basically everyone was supportive of us using it [17:25] ah ok [17:25] Trevinho, but they will likely reorganize groups at some point [17:25] so I can use for the extension too? [17:25] yes [17:28] Trevinho: I pinged you on github btw, please answer the extension author :) [17:28] (pinged you yesterday evening IIRC) [17:29] ah, ok... sorry but i've too many github notifications on these days, filtering them isn't the easiest thing [17:48] have a nice w.e desktopers! [17:49] see ya seb128 [17:49] willcooke, see you in budapest :) [17:49]