[00:16] <inky> i cant find any dhcp settings/details in my router/modem. is there a way to query this information from ubuntu?
[00:22] <kenrin> If your router|modem has an API and you want to write a program to do that sure.  Most people just use the webgui config though
[00:45] <MeaCulpa> does anyone know of way to work around a lack of static ip address? Or does it mean changing provider to someone who can give me one?
[00:51] <tgm4883> MeaCulpa: dynamic DNS
[01:02] <ecormier> MeaCulpa: you could always write some scripts...
[01:06] <ecormier> I have a cron job that uses 'curl' and sed to get my external ip, pipe that to openssl to encrypt, upload that to my website(domain).... then I have another cron command to unpack that, a little python parser after that automatically puts the new info into my .ssh/config :)
[01:19] <fishcooker> accidentally my mousepad doesn't work, how to fix that... yesterday i installed out of date kernel because the latest kernel doesn't allow suspend.. but today the mousepad doesn't work... im on lenovo
[01:23] <fishcooker> *touchpad
[01:23] <fishcooker> not mouse pada
[01:59] <rokyy> myusb: Composite Document File V2 Document, Little Endian, Os: Windows, Version 5.1, Code page: 1200, Locale ID: 1052, Revision Number: USBlyze, Create Time/Date: Fri Jun 24 13:45:22 2016, Last Saved Time/Date: Fri Jun 24 13:46:09 2016, Name of Creating Application: USBlyze, Security: 0
[02:00] <rokyy> how can i extract this
[02:03] <OerHeks> maybe convert it .. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30478593/what-is-composite-document-file-v2-document
[02:15] <yuanxu> joppj
[02:37] <ziggylazer> Hay all
[02:37] <segersjerry> I have a logitech trackball with 10 buttons. Is there a gui for setting them to be different buttons or keyboard shortcuts?
[02:37] <julian1010> Hello...
[02:37] <ziggylazer> When I make a rule with firewall-cmd and want to keep it
[02:37] <ziggylazer> How do I do that?
[02:38] <julian1010> Hola a todos...
[02:38] <ziggylazer> Like ports and zones
[02:39] <ziggylazer> sudo firewall-cmd --add-port=number
[02:39] <ziggylazer> And to not lose that at reboot
[02:43] <SomeT> can anyone help me with an answer to this?: https://www.reddit.com/r/digital_ocean/comments/818ra7/confused_by_difference/
[02:43] <SomeT> its on ubuntu
[02:43] <julian1010> Alguien me lee???
[02:45] <meteorx>   
[02:45] <meteorx> ..
[02:46] <SomeT> also they read
[02:46] <SomeT> I think it translates to
[03:08]  * SomeT slaps meteorx around a bit with a large trout
[03:09] <bazhang> SomeT, please save the chatter etc for a non-support channel, thanks
[03:10] <SomeT> he was harrasing me
[03:11] <SomeT> if your op can you kick and ban him
[03:11] <SomeT> sending me pm's constantly
[03:20] <kk4ewt> SomeT,  try /umode +r
[03:20] <SomeT> thanks
[03:20] <Nachos11> ok. anyone know what ubuntu-server uses for DHCP?
[03:21] <kk4ewt> if that doesnt work /umode +g which will block all pms
[03:21] <Nachos11> I don't see any instances of dhcpcd floating around.
[03:23] <kk4ewt> Nachos11,  to be a server or as a client
[03:23] <Nachos11> kk4ewt: DHCP client.
[03:24] <Nachos11> setting up a new machine & want to be sure it takes DHCP on all interfaces.
[03:25] <Nachos11> fair.
[03:46] <cpcat> hi
[03:54] <CarlFK1> Nachos11: "all interfaces"  seems like an odd goal for a dhcp server -
[04:11] <cpcat> where do I get the command nc6?
[04:15] <Nachos11> CarlFK1: dhcp client, not server.
[04:16] <Nachos11> so if I have 4 networks connected to 4 ports, I'd like to get DHCP IPs on all of them.
[04:16] <cpcat> ubuntu xenial doesn't have netcat6
[04:18] <CarlFK1> Nachos11: I think you need to specify the config for each interface.   or.. with a little hot plug udev rules you could make any new interface that shows up get dhcp'ed.
[04:22] <Nachos11> CarlFK1: The problem is that I don't know what the interface names are.
[04:23] <Nachos11> I'm trying to install on one box and then move the drive to another (headless) box to actually do the running.
[04:24] <blitzkraft> I have a weird issue with my ubuntu machine. During poweroff/restart, it hangs with a blinking cursor. I waited hours and it is still stuck there. To diagnose it, I edited boot options to "text" instead of "quiet splash". Now it won't hang up at all. It quickly powers off or restarts. This has been very repeatable. Running ubuntu 17.10.1.
[04:25] <blitzkraft> The text still pops up, but it is too quick to read. Where can I read those logs?
[04:25] <Bashing-om> Nachos11: ' ip link ls ; to show all the NICs .
[04:25] <Nachos11> Bashing-om: I don't have console access to the machine.
[04:25] <Nachos11> because I can't ssh, because the network isn't setup.
[04:29] <Nachos11> I'm able to run any commands I want to on another machine with the drive mounted, but can't login to that machine.
[04:30] <khaled> HI
[04:35] <krwq> hello, how do I change window manager for a specific user in 16.04? I've tried .xinitrc, .xsession and also in my login screen there is no button to change it
[04:38] <Triffid_Hunter> krwq: well it is up to the login manager to choose a session
[04:38] <cpcat> where do I get nc6 or netcat6 for ubuntu 16.04?
[04:39] <krwq> Triffid_Hunter: i got a default login manager, is this option somewhere
[04:40] <Triffid_Hunter> krwq: I use sddm on my system, never heard of "default" login manager though
[04:41] <krwq> Triffid_Hunter: I'm not sure how to check what login manager I have. $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP says Unity
[04:46] <EriC^> krwq: try dpkg -l "*dm"
[04:47] <krwq> EriC^: lightdm
[04:47] <krwq> I think
[04:47] <EriC^> yeah that's a dm
[04:47] <krwq> i got 3 more entries: gdm, kdm, mdadm and sddm
[04:48] <krwq> but those have uu
[04:48] <EriC^> are they all "ii" at the start?
[04:48] <krwq> nope, only lightdm have ii
[04:48] <EriC^> they're not installed, just lightdm
[04:48] <krwq> so i also installed stumpwm from sources
[04:48] <krwq> and added to xsessions
[04:49] <krwq> this is the one I want to switch to on my user
[04:52] <krwq> it works correctly when I switch tty with ctrl-alt-fX and then startx stumpwm but can't figure out how to use default login manager with that
[04:53] <EriC^> krwq: when you get the login screen in lightdm there's an arrow to the right topside of the user box sometimes that lets you choose the de
[04:54] <krwq> EriC^: so I've searched for the arrow before but couldn't find it
[04:57] <EriC^> krwq: maybe you can add it somewhere in /etc/lightdm
[04:58] <krwq> EriC^: got a user.conf file there which doesn't have anything interesting ther and an empty folder
[05:01] <hime> sup
[05:04] <Nachos11> Wooo, got it all to work now.
[05:06] <gt8ost4l> can anybody help me the music i play skips seconds?
[05:11] <chicognu> I'm with a weird problem. On pure terminal, into the login prompt, appers some characters, ^@, over and over again, like if my keyboard have some short circuit, but on unity it does not appear, and xev don't show any key as been pressed. Any one have a clue on how to fix that ?
[05:17] <cinematicme> Anyone online?
[05:19] <chicognu> cinematicme, shoot
[05:28] <cinematicme> @chicognu one sec
[05:32] <digi_quake> Hi!! please help somebody!!!
[05:32] <digi_quake> I'm running older version of Ubuntu (14.04) for legacy purposes
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> digi_quake: start with a question first?
[05:33] <digi_quake> last week i configured my network interfaces to static IP... Now i changed my configuration to dhcp.
[05:33] <digi_quake> i did "ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0"
[05:33] <digi_quake> But i'm not getting any dhcpoffers
[05:34] <digi_quake> in newer versions, if i start smbd service i can immediatly get it
[05:34] <digi_quake> but in this old version, there's no smbd service
[05:35] <Triffid_Hunter> samba and dhcp have nothing to do with each other
[05:35] <Triffid_Hunter> samba is windows filesharing
[05:35] <digi_quake> so how do i get a dynamic IP??
[05:36] <digi_quake> It says, "No DHCPOFFERS received. No Working leases in persistent databse - sleeping"
[05:36] <Triffid_Hunter> digi_quake: dunno, check your logs, see if your dhcp client is complaining about something
[05:36] <Triffid_Hunter> digi_quake: reboot your router perhaps
[05:36] <digi_quake> can you tell me where those logs are located... please?
[05:37] <digi_quake> i'm pretty novice in Linux
[05:38] <Triffid_Hunter> digi_quake: /var/log usually
[05:38] <digi_quake> okay, i'll check
[05:42] <digi_quake> hi!! any particular name for dhcp logs??? i can see dpkg.log, mail.log, auth.log, alternatives.log, ufw.log
[05:49] <Bashing-om> digi_quake: Anything positive from '  grep -i dhcp /var/log/syslog ' ?
[05:52] <digi_quake> @Bashing-om: No, just multiple lines stating "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12..."
[05:54] <Bashing-om> digi_quake: UnGood - what shows ' arp -a ' ?
[05:55] <digi_quake> @Bashing-om: it shows nothing... Am i not connected to the internet?? :O
[05:56] <digi_quake> it's a vm. and i've put it into bridged mode
[05:56] <noj_> hi guys want to make space on my disk not sure how to do it-would like to delete deja-dup as system is fine atm and currently storing backups in home under user(me)
[05:56] <noj_> will redo in a moment to external but how do i safely proceed to delete
[05:56] <digi_quake> I'm using virtualBox
[05:57] <noj_> *home/user(me)
[05:58] <Bashing-om> digi_quake: Too soon to say . got a way to show us in a pastebin ' sudo lshw -C network ' ?
[06:02] <digi_quake> sure, give me a moment
[06:02] <noj_> can i just delete the folder and it not ruin my system am very new to ubuntu
[06:03] <Bashing-om> !info deja-dup xenial
[06:04] <Bashing-om> noj_: Terminal command ' sudo apt purge deja-dup ' will remove the app if you installed from the repo .
[06:07] <noj_> sudo apt-get purge deja-dup will this purge all my data or just my settings for deja-dup want to make space
[06:07] <digi_quake> https://pastebin.com/XFk6Qvcd
[06:08] <noj_> please help i need to make some space on my drive and change location to external for future backups (currently backing up to home/usr
[06:08] <Bashing-om> noj_: Have not used deja-dup Van not give good advise .. but maybe in the app there is a means to remove old images ?? The command will only re,ove the app not any of the images that were made .
[06:09] <noj_> thank you i know where the folder is for deja-dup if i delete contents it wont wreck system booting up etcetera will it ?
[06:11] <noj_> nothing found inside the app that i can see other than restore and schedualing of backups
[06:11] <noj_> not turned on anyway think this backup was one i made manually prior to upgrade/automated one
[06:13] <noj_> can anyone please advise re deja-dup please dont want to kill my system but need that 25GB back
[06:13] <Bashing-om> digi_quake: Well, driver is loaded .. what shows for a IP '  ifconfig eth0 ' ?
[06:14] <digi_quake> It shows both eth0 and lo, but in eth0 only inet6 is there. no ipv4 address
[06:17] <Bashing-om> digi_quake: Well, will take one who knows more of a VM that I know ; but I would think you need that IPv4 IP .
[06:17] <digi_quake> yes...
[06:18] <digi_quake> I'll try to get a connection in NAT mode
[06:19] <Bashing-om> digi_quake: Good luck .. My end of day now ..
[06:20] <digi_quake> @Bashing-om: Thanks a lot for the help!! Really appreciate it :))
[06:20] <digi_quake> and everyone thanks for the help
[06:21] <noj_> found a page that was easy as pie...now the reboot wish me luck
[06:25] <noj_> :)
[06:31] <Vanish> Hey all. I just updated to the 18.04 alpla and now I am not able to connect to the internet at all. I can connect to the router just find and I can ping out but I can't run apt update, apt, upgrade, or use a web browser. It says that am offline.
[06:35] <slimetrap> wasn't there a terminal emulator that would have a different color bg for each terminal/tab/window
[06:35] <slimetrap> the default one in ubuntu doesn't even let you set titles
[06:45] <noj_> hello again system seems to work great but i have one issue when booting up the screen (grub i think its called) is fragmented colour
[06:45] <noj_> how can i fix this
[06:46] <noj_> not full purple now its purple and 1/3 black box
[06:55] <noj_> just curious is everyone asleep-can i connect to a server closer to my timezone its3pm where i am and no one seems to be answering
[06:58] <hateball> noj_: what gpu/driver are you using?
[06:58] <hateball> some drivers dont have proper KMS support (nvidia) so the bootsplash might look corrupted
[07:03] <iresf> hello
[07:03] <iresf> my ubuntu system became unstable  how to fix it  ?
[07:12] <meeco21> hello does any one know of any programs for a newb in linx to start off with trying to teach my self
[07:17] <gautamS> meeco21, i don't know, do you program?
[07:17] <gautamS> then maybe you can try installing a few libraries, building their samples from source, edit using vim or something
[07:18] <iresf> fuck shit os  ubuntu
[07:19] <iresf> who thinks ubuntu is better than winddows ?
[07:19] <meeco21> im teaching my self to program im just looking for some advice
[07:19] <meeco21> and help
[07:19] <gautamS> yes
[07:20] <chicognu> iresf, everybody ?
[07:20] <gautamS> meeco21, are you comfortable with C?
[07:20] <iresf> chicognu : no windows is more stable than ubuntu when u can not install everything in ubuntu
[07:20] <meeco21> im teach my self computer networking and app programing
[07:20] <gautamS> ah
[07:21] <iresf> i have experience  with linux more than 10  years
[07:21] <CarlFK1> meeco21: https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers
[07:21] <gautamS> if he's interested in app programming, i guess he would need something like android studio?
[07:21] <meeco21> never heard of C
[07:21] <gautamS> its a programming language
[07:21] <chicognu> iresf, i'm using in daily basis more than 15 years
[07:21] <meeco21> im looking it up right now
[07:22] <meeco21> 'i made my on plex server out of a PI3
[07:22] <gautamS> meeco21, it's pretty good if you know it. a large part of the linux kernel is also written in C
[07:22] <meeco21> pi3
[07:22] <meeco21> rasbery
[07:22] <gautamS> yes yes
[07:22] <chicognu> iresf, just because really likely you fucked you instalation, it does not me it is unstable
[07:23] <gautamS> iresf, setting up unix development tools is a pain the @$$ on windows
[07:23] <gautamS> there's WSL and you can configure it with some x server but performance is substandard
[07:23] <meeco21> sounds good im reading up on it now
[07:24] <CarlFK1> im trying to build/test a new kernel - make/make modules/make modules_install all work.  make install errors: mkinitramfs failure  gzip: stdout: No space left on device - i see it get over 200mb before it errors. what defines what gets included ?
[07:24] <meeco21> and android stuio ?
[07:24] <gautamS> meeco21, the good part is that most tools that you will need for programming in C are readily available on ubuntu
[07:24] <gautamS> meeco21, yeah you'll probably need that
[07:24] <gautamS> since you said app development
[07:25] <meeco21> yes
[07:25] <gautamS> they provide a linux version, and it works rather well on my system
[07:25] <meeco21> app i have a idea for an app for djs
[07:26] <gautamS> well this place can't help you with that
[07:26] <meeco21> lol
[07:27] <gautamS> but mostly you will learn the command line over time
[07:27] <gautamS> you'll find that it's often easier to do stuff through the terminal than through the UI
[07:27] <donofrio> "(deja-dup-monitor:722): dconf-CRITICAL **: 01:58:37.792: unable to create directory '/home/donofrio/.cache/dconf': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly."
[07:27] <meeco21> im really enjoying the input from yall
[07:28] <gautamS> i suggested C because C and unix are closely tied together
[07:28] <gautamS> and linux aims to be unix-like
[07:29] <lotuspsychje_> !crosspost | donofrio
[07:29]  * donofrio hanging head in shame
[07:30] <gautamS> so if you are comfortable with C, you end up understanding how a large part of linux works as well
[07:30] <meeco21> to marrow im installing ubuntu on to an olld delli been fixing up
[07:32] <meeco21> just to teach my self gautamS think you for you help if i have any ? i now know where to thank you all for the help
[07:59] <nguyetam> How I can see the driver of my printer
[08:00] <maret> hi , when using top how to reduce all processes with same name under one item and sum up their resources? I have few chromium processes and I want to know how much ram they take in sum
[08:04] <Kartagis> hi
[08:05] <Kartagis> what env var would specify the language of an automatically created dir via mkdir $(date +%B) ?
[08:07] <jink> Kartagis: LC_TIME seems to work.  Hint, look at the output of: locale
[08:07] <jink> Kartagis: LANG works, too.
[08:11] <Kartagis> LC_ALL did it
[08:22] <geirha> Don't forget quotes. mkdir "./$(date +%B)"
[08:41] <naaaaaaaaando> hola
[08:41] <naaaaaaaaando> hola
[08:41] <computer> HOLA
[08:42] <naaaaaaaaando> hola hemmy
[08:42] <computer_> hola nando
[08:43] <naaaaaaaaando> ayuda
[08:43] <naaaaaaaaando> socorro
[08:43] <computer_> si que lo leooo
[08:43] <ducasse> !es
[08:43] <naaaaaaaaando> sorry
[08:43] <computer_> inglish?
[08:44] <computer_> pablo alarcon tienes una firma
[08:44] <naaaaaaaaando> hola jaime
[08:44] <computer_> eres feo
[08:44] <computer_> e idiota
[08:44] <saurabh> hey guys, i'm trying to run a python pip package jrnl but termnal cannot seems to find it
[08:44] <saurabh> an idea how to i run pip packages?
[08:45] <saurabh> that package is installed and is in the ~/.local/lib/python3.6/site-packages folder
[08:45] <saurabh> fwiw i cannot run any of te pip packages
[08:46] <saurabh> i even add the path to .local/lib/pyth.. to my $PATH var, but still terminal cannnot find the package
[08:49] <digi_quake> ok
[09:23] <Goeland86> hi all, I've run into an odd boot problem... I've got 17.10 installed on a relatively powerful local server. When I rebooted though, 3 services keep trying to activate in a loop. GDM3.service - despite running systemctl disable gdm3 before reboot. systemd-logind.service and NetworkManager.service. I may have found an explanation for systemd-logind but as it's in production at the moment I can't reboot to test it
[09:24] <Goeland86> but I really need help understanding why NetworkManager stays in "activating (start) state since the reboot last night
[09:25] <Goeland86> the only error I see in the status is "dispatcher: could not get dispatcher proxy! Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher: GDBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher': timed out
[09:25] <Goeland86> it's confusing as hell and not helping much when googling
[09:29] <lotuspsychje_> Goeland86: you run non-lts on production server?
[09:32] <ducasse> Goeland86: just a thought - i'd probably use systemd-networkd instead of network manager on a server
[09:33] <ducasse> Goeland86: and if you don't want a gui on boot, run 'systemctl set-default multi-user.target'
[09:42] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[09:44] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj: morning
[09:44] <jink> Morning.
[09:45] <timdotrb> Evening, all
[09:45] <timdotrb> I’m attempting to install some packages on Ubuntu 17.04, but I’m getting 404 not found errors. Where can I download packages for this distro?
[09:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning gordonjcp
[09:45] <ducasse> !eol | timdotrb
[09:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning ducasse, jink
[09:46] <jink> ^__^
[09:46] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj
[09:47] <BluesKaj> insomnia here :/
[09:48] <flying_sausages> hey everyone, my /boot partition is absolutely full with old kernels, but they wont' apt autoremove. I've got the ubuntu kernel live patching installed, could this be the culprit?
[09:50] <Sorfrost> dpkg -l | grep -i kernel
[09:50] <Sorfrost> and then "apt-get remove --purge kernelyoudontneedanymore"
[09:51] <Sorfrost> or you absolutely want to use autoremove?
[09:52] <brym> can i host windows vdi's on ubuntu? is that essentially what kvm/qemu is?
[09:53] <Saucy> Hai semua. Apa kabar
[09:54] <akik> brym: virtualbox can boot vdis and qemu-img can convert vdis if kvm doesn't recognize the format
[09:55] <brym> akik: so just to be clear, because i'm not sure i'm understanding the terminology properly. i don't mean vdi files. i mean virtual desktop infra
[09:55] <akik> brym: yes you can boot a windows vm with kvm
[09:56] <brym> because i'm well familiar with running win vm's with kvm
[09:56] <brym> akik: so in that sense, when a windows guys asks me about vdi, they're just asking can i host windows vm's, right?
[09:57] <ducasse> how can we tell you what he means?
[09:57] <brym> lol
[09:57] <akik> brym: i have no idea what they would mean
[09:57] <brym> fair enough, ducasse
[09:57] <timdotrb> ducasse: So it’s not possible to install any software via apt after eol?
[09:58] <brym> i mean like they throw vdi at me as in virtual desktop infra. i take it to mean they're on about kvm (in my understanding, just spinning up some vm's)
[09:58] <ducasse> timdotrb: you need to upgrade, you haven't received any security patches in quite a while
[09:58] <flying_sausages> brym, are you supposed to make desktops for thin clients?
[09:58] <flying_sausages> or something of the like?\
[09:59] <akik> brym: don't try to interpret what they mean. ask direct technology related questions
[09:59] <timdotrb> ducasse: I’m trying to upgrade.. I ran dist-upgrade, was going to install update-manager-core and do do-release-upgrade. However, since I can’t install software, I’m stuck after dist-upgrade
[10:00] <ducasse> timdotrb: see the eolupgrade link in the factoid from ubottu
[10:02] <brym> flying_sausages: i believe so. he just wants to teamviewer in to run some tests
[10:02] <flying_sausages> Sorfrost I'd really like to make sure this plugs into autoremove seeing as that gets cleaned up regularly
[10:02] <flying_sausages> oh he's wuit :(
[10:02] <flying_sausages> *quit
[10:03] <timdotrb> ducasse: ty
[10:07] <BitByBit> Hi to all. I have correctly configured the kernel to support my cellular modem, I would ask for some support to get QMI wwan working.
[10:09] <Goeland86> lotuspsychje_ not my choice - manager set it up. I just have to clean up
[10:10] <Goeland86> ducasse, thanks for the suggestion. I'll run that, but not sure how to switch to systemd-networkd instead of network manager?
[10:10] <Goeland86> got pulled into an impromptu meeting
[10:11] <ducasse> Goeland86: the way to use networkd now in 17.10 and up is to set up a netplan yaml file
[10:12] <Goeland86> ok, I'll look it up, thanks :)
[10:12] <Goeland86> just need to figure out how to kill the systemd-logind loop
[10:13] <Goeland86> or, well, make it start properly. The suggestion was to use libnss-ldapd instead of libnss-ldap, but seems the next restart of systemd-logind didn't work still
[10:33] <kok> lo
[10:33] <kok> hemllo
[10:35] <FastCode> kok: I want what you're high on:)
[10:46] <mikecmpbll> i'm using systemctl to send a signal to a process to stop it, the process may finish what it's doing which might take some time
[10:46] <mikecmpbll> i then need to start the service again, however, at the moment the systemctl start command is happening before the process has exited
[10:47] <mikecmpbll> because i have no mechanism to wait for the process to exit after the first signal. how would this be best achieved?
[10:47] <mikecmpbll> is there a way to grab the pid of a process with systemctl, perhaps?
[10:48] <FastCode> mikecmpbll: have you tried modifying the service file?
[10:48] <mikecmpbll> FastCode : i have not, i don't know what modifications would be useful
[10:49] <FastCode> it has triggers and stuff, i'm not sure myself
[10:49] <FastCode> but i know that it has them
[10:49] <mikecmpbll> could be a good route, i'll do some research.
[10:50] <FastCode> there is also lickfile-progs
[10:50] <FastCode> not sure how helpful that is
[10:50] <FastCode> s/lick/lock
[10:51] <burdu> how to install windows10?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> burdu  better ask in ##windows
[10:52] <bazhang> burdu, how is that related to ubuntu support
[10:52] <mikecmpbll> 😂
[10:52] <FastCode> you want to install it inside ubuntu?
[10:52] <FastCode> as in a virtual machine?
[10:53] <FastCode> or your grandson gave you a windows 10 cd that says ubuntu when you put it in?
[10:53] <bazhang> FastCode, he left
[10:53] <FastCode> ah
[10:53] <FastCode> would've been fun
[10:58] <outoftime> Hello. I have a problem with login loop
[10:58] <outoftime> I have installed nvidia-384 and after reboot can't login any more
[10:58] <outoftime> I have fresh ubuntu 16.04
[11:01] <outoftime> any idea what could go wrong?
[11:02] <EriC^^> outoftime: is the linux headers installed?
[11:02] <EriC^^> outoftime: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[11:02] <outoftime> Eric^^: tty works, don't know about headers, I'll check wait a minute
[11:03] <EriC^^> outoftime: see the current running kernel with "uname -r" and check dpkg -l | grep linux-headers if it's installed
[11:03] <outoftime> I have installed driver from official ubuntu repo
[11:04] <outoftime> http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82_nvidia following this instructions
[11:05] <outoftime> I have headers nomal, -generic and -hwe-16.04
[11:07] <outoftime> uname -r prints; 4.10.0-28-generic
[11:07] <EriC^^> outoftime: what about "dpkg -l | grep headers" ?
[11:07] <EriC^^> !paste | outoftime
[11:08] <EriC^^> outoftime: pastebin also "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices"
[11:08] <outoftime> ubottu: dude I can't login show I can paste from tty without mouse ?
[11:08] <outoftime> *how
[11:09] <EriC^^> outoftime: yes, type "(dpkg -l | grep headers; sudo ubuntu-drivers devices) | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here
[11:11] <outoftime> rioh
[11:11] <outoftime> ri0h
[11:11] <outoftime> http://termbin.com/ri0h
[11:12] <outoftime> I have an eror broken pipe
[11:12] <EriC^^> outoftime: does 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' give anything?
[11:14] <outoftime> http://termbin.com/dfr4 next
[11:15] <EriC^^> outoftime: the recommended driver is nvidia-340
[11:16] <outoftime> Yeah, I see, but I have installed 384 already, what to do now?
[11:16] <EriC^^> outoftime: sudo apt-get purge 'nvidia*' && sudo apt-get install nvidia-340
[11:18] <outoftime> sigle quotes? really?
[11:18] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:18] <outoftime> hm, started without them...
[11:18] <EriC^^> np
[11:19] <TJ-> outoftime: without a set of quotes the * could be expanded by the shell if anything named nvidia* happens to exist in the current directory
[11:19] <EriC^^> it's to avoid the shell expanding it if it finds anything in the current working dir
[11:21] <outoftime> I have a blank black screen now
[11:22] <EriC^^> outoftime: try "ctrl+alt+del"
[11:23] <EriC^^> or possibly ctrl+alt+F2
[11:23] <outoftime> No, F2 didn;t work, I have tried, restarted
[11:24] <EriC^^> ok
[11:24] <outoftime> I'm on login screen now
[11:24] <EriC^^> k, give it a shot
[11:25] <outoftime> everything disapeared expect default scren wallpaper
[11:25] <outoftime> *except
[11:25] <EriC^^> outoftime: try the guest account
[11:26] <outoftime> Can't nothing is drawing except wallpaper
[11:26] <EriC^^> outoftime: does ctrl+alt+t work?
[11:27] <outoftime> no
[11:27] <EriC^^> outoftime: try ctrl+alt+f1, login then type sudo service lightdm restart
[11:28] <outoftime> do, login screen appeares as normal
[11:28] <outoftime> *done
[11:28] <EriC^^> outoftime: try the guest account
[11:29] <TJ-> EriC^^: you know, the more I see the problems nvidia drivers causing due to their proprietary hacks, I do wonder if we shouldn't install it using an overlay file-system so it can be enabled/disabled with a single mount command
[11:29] <outoftime> done, everything is OK
[11:29] <EriC^^> TJ-: heh :D
[11:29] <EriC^^> outoftime: ok, logout, go back to ctrl+alt+f1
[11:30] <outoftime> TJ-, my ASUS screen is not recognized and It displays text ans CTR which kills my eyes
[11:30] <TJ-> EriC^^: because then if failsafeX kicks in all it has to do is unmount the overlay and unload the kernel module and the system is clean
[11:31] <EriC^^> outoftime: try first 'dconf reset -f /org/compiz'
[11:32] <EriC^^> outoftime: if it doesn't work, renaming config files in the home dir could fix it, name ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.gconf ~/.config in that order one by one
[11:32] <EriC^^> it's some user config issue now
[11:34] <EriC^^> TJ-: that would be nice
[11:34] <outoftime> Should I rename folders too?
[11:35] <EriC^^> outoftime: yeah the whole dir, e.g mv ~/.compiz ~/.compiz-backup
[11:35] <EriC^^> no luck with dconf?
[11:37] <outoftime> done
[11:37] <EriC^^> try restarting lightdm and logging in your account
[11:38] <outoftime> same issue
[11:39] <EriC^^> outoftime: did you rename ~/.gconf and ~/.config ?
[11:39] <outoftime> +
[11:39] <TJ-> outoftime: EriC^^ I think it's the user's DM config been saved which includes GPU-specific names
[11:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: interesting, what should he rename/edit?
[11:40] <outoftime> I have done nothing
[11:40] <outoftime> fresh ubuntu 16.04
[11:40] <outoftime> I have just installed nvidia-340
[11:41] <outoftime> *384
[11:41] <TJ-> outoftime: "just" is a LOT when it involves nvidia!
[11:41] <outoftime> I can burn everything out and start again
[11:41] <natten> Is there any options for desktop sharing for wayland on 17.10?
[11:41] <TJ-> EriC^^: I'm trying to remember but it's a long time since I dealt with it; there was some local user config file that included GPU and/or output names in it
[11:42] <EriC^^> outoftime: i'd have this happen to me once, and renaming almost every config in the home dir didn't help, so i created a fresh user and moved my data there, you're going to have to set up the settings again anyways since we renamed the configs
[11:42] <outoftime> natten: teamviewer?
[11:44] <EriC^^> outoftime: if you want to make a new user "sudo adduser --system <newuser>" then "sudo adduser <newuser> sudo" to give him privileges
[11:44] <TJ-> outoftime: EriC^^ is there a $HOME/.nv/ directory?
[11:44] <outoftime> Eric^^: you know, default driver is enough for me, but It recognize my Asus vw227 as CRT display and... my eyes will blow up soon
[11:44] <EriC^^> outoftime: haha, yeah that sucks for sure
[11:44] <outoftime> yeah
[11:44] <TJ-> outoftime: try deleting it then login again
[11:44] <natten> outoftime: Does teamviewer support wayland? I read this: https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Linux/State-of-Wayland-amp-TeamViewer/m-p/26340#M1389 and didn't seem like it
[11:45] <outoftime> http://termbin.com/xrac
[11:47] <outoftime> Ok, I'm reinstalling Ubuntu again...
[11:47] <outoftime> oh
[11:47] <outoftime> you know
[11:47] <outoftime> ctrl+t works
[11:47] <EriC^^> outoftime: did you try 'rm -r ~/.nv' ?
[11:48] <TJ-> outoftime: EriC^^ did you move $HOME/.cache/ ?
[11:48] <outoftime> not not ctrl+t but I have plugged in my usb and nautilus have shown up
[11:48] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh, good catch, outoftime ^    pardon the pun
[11:50] <EriC^^> outoftime: try 'rm -ri ~/.nv; mv ~/.cache ~/.cache-backup'
[11:52] <outoftime> Restarted. Worts
[11:52] <outoftime> Works
[11:52] <EriC^^> cool, good one TJ-
[11:54] <outoftime> Now I have an issue with resolution
[11:55] <outoftime> 1360x768 instead of 1920x1080
[11:56] <TJ-> outoftime: check what is available with "xrandr -q"
[11:57] <EriC^^> outoftime: is there some kind of nvidia manager or something? does nvidia<tab><tab> complete with anything useful?
[11:57] <outoftime> EriC^^: do you ever have problems with unrecognized monitors?
[11:57] <outoftime> nvidia-settings
[11:57] <EriC^^> outoftime: nope, can't say i have
[11:57] <TJ-> outoftime: /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see whether the monitor reported EDID info, and if so, what modes it contained
[11:58] <outoftime_92> http://termbin.com/n5nu
[11:59] <outoftime_92> TJ-: EDID didn't recognized
[12:00] <outoftime_92> http://termbin.com/n5nu
[12:00] <outoftime_92> http://termbin.com/eme9
[12:04] <ignatiz-> how do I skip to the end of a file when using less?
[12:04] <outoftime_92> G
[12:05] <ignatiz-> thanks
[12:05] <outoftime_92> ignatiz-: shift+g
[12:05] <ducasse> ignatiz-: press 'h' for a list of keybindings
[12:08] <outoftime_92> TJ-: EriC^^ any idea?
[12:09] <TJ-> outoftime_92: the monitor isn't telling the GPU what modes it supports. Can you pastebin the entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:10] <outoftime_92> TJ-: http://termbin.com/29x2
[12:15] <outoftime_92> My monitor is ASUS VW2270 or O
[12:15] <outoftime_92> Model: VW 227
[12:16] <TJ-> outoftime_92: bad EDID is often caused by a poor/faulty VGA cable
[12:17] <jameranco> hi there everyone
[12:17] <outoftime_92> TJ-: do you mean I have to replace VGA cable?
[12:17] <jameranco> is there someone in ere who speaks Greek?
[12:17] <jameranco> I need a tiny tiny help
[12:18] <outoftime_92> jameranco: do you speak english?
[12:18] <jameranco> yes
[12:18] <jameranco> but only English
[12:18] <TJ-> outoftime_92: possibly... first I'd check that the pins in the cable plugs at both ends haven't been bent
[12:18] <jameranco> outoftime_92: ^
[12:21] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I don't think so, It is crewed
[12:21] <jameranco> outoftime_92: can you help me?
[12:21] <outoftime_92> jameranco: ask
[12:22] <jameranco> outoftime_92: can you help me translate a phrase from English to Greek? Google translate seems like it is messing it up.
[12:23] <outoftime_92> jameranco: I don't know Greek. Try https://english.stackexchange.com/ maybe they can help you....
[12:24] <outoftime_92> TJ-: don't you know how to force monitor recognition?
[12:28] <TJ-> outoftime_92: I've disassembled the EDID data; it's corrupted. That occurs in 2 situations: 1) cable, plugs, or connectors are faulty or 2) the monitor's internal EEPROM that stores the EDID is corrupted
[12:30] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I have neighbor who told me that my monitor's model have 2nd problem and it needs replacement time to time in order to work properly
[12:31] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I have fully erased my previos ubuntu 2 days ago, and somehow I have configured it to work.
[12:31] <ph88> does do-release-upgrade -d  upgrade to 18.04 ?
[12:33] <TJ-> outoftime_92: The only problem is the last byte of the EDID - the checksum - is bad. The rest of the data looks OK. There is a tool that can actually fix that in the monitor if you want to give it a go
[12:34] <TJ-> outoftime_92: this is what's in the EDID: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5pJW4rhFw3/
[12:36] <BluesKaj> ph88, yes, but make sure you upgrade your existing packages on 17.10 first
[12:36] <ph88> BluesKaj, i'm on 15.10
[12:37] <ph88> don't know how to upgrade the packages to 17.10
[12:37] <BluesKaj> ph88, then you're out of luck, you'll need to doa clean install of 18.04
[12:38] <ph88> o_O
[12:38] <BluesKaj> same goes for 17.10
[12:38] <BluesKaj> !15,10
[12:38] <BluesKaj> !eol
[12:40] <outoftime_92_> BluesKaj: What about Ubuntu 16.04?
[12:41] <ph88> yes it's eol ... that's why i want to upgrade :/
[12:42] <outoftime_92_> ph88: ubuntu repos could have not update for 15.10 because its life time expired
[12:43] <ph88> when i do do-release-upgrade it upgrades to 16.04
[12:43] <ph88> but i want to go to 18.04
[12:43] <outoftime_92_> ph88: 18.04 is not released yet
[12:43] <ph88> that's ok
[12:44] <ph88> i have enough confidence in the beta
[12:44] <outoftime_92_> ph88: https://websiteforstudents.com/upgrade-ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-ubuntu-18-04-lts-beta-server/ look at this
[12:45] <ph88> ok
[12:52] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: I have checked pins of VGA cable, they are fine
[12:52] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: OK, so the monitor is sending a bad EDID. As I said earlier, there is a way to reprogram it to fix it if you want to do that
[12:53] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: did you read the pastebin where I decode the EDID from your Xorg log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5pJW4rhFw3/
[12:54] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: Why Windows 7 work fine with it? Just wondering... Yes I have read your paste
[12:56] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: Is there a chance to broke something while reprograming?
[12:56] <m15k> Guys should UFW ipv6 dhcp-pd works out of the box?
[12:57] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: and if there is, is it recoverable?
[12:57] <amosbird> hello, what tool can I use to list all cpu registers name ?
[13:01] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: very often Windows will ignore errors; most things Linux adhere very closely to the specifications
[13:03] <outoftime_92_> EriC^^: TJ- discovered, that my display sends wrong EDID http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5pJW4rhFw3/
[13:03] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: as far as I can see the problem is in descriptor 3, it declares itself as 'text' which can have up to 13 characters and should be terminated with a linefeed (0x0a) followed by spaces (0x20) to pad out any remaining bytes, but it has an embeded ASCII NUL (0x00) at offset 10
[13:05] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: I /think/ that byte is the corrupt one, and if correct would make the checksum correct, so I'm going to write a little program that generates all 255 possible values in the bytes and see which one causes the checksum to be correct
[13:06] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: can you teach me fast about all this stuff? I mean I can undertand you partially but not totally
[13:06] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: let me figure out which byte is bad  and get the correct value first
[13:07] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: how did you disasseble EDID? How do you found right format etc
[13:07] <Sircle> Apache question: Is there anything wrong with this syntax. I am trying to allow one ip and block all but its blocking all ips (including the one I whitelisted) https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9078945
[13:12] <outoftime_92_> Sircle: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/714332/allow-request-coming-from-specific-ip-only
[13:16] <outoftime_92_> amosbird: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/arm64/cpu-feature-registers.txt check it out
[13:17] <ChrispyChris1992> Hey, I was wondering if anyone may have a minute to help with irsii highlighting.
[13:17] <amosbird> outoftime_92_: hmm
[13:22] <ChrispyChris1992> Possibly anyone?
[13:22] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Display_Identification_Data Checksum. Sum of all 128 bytes should equal 0 (mod 256). So if you think problem is in single byte, then you can calculate shift without brute force algorithm
[13:23] <outoftime_92_> ChrispyChris1992: didn't use it
[13:24] <SwedeMike> TJ-: I have a TV that returns incorrect EDID. I ended up taking a correct EDID file from an identical TV and just providing that file to xorg
[13:27] <Sircle> outoftime iam using apache 2.4
[13:27] <Sircle> outoftime its not working
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> Having ran Photorec on a clients hard disk I have have tried running "find /media/patrick/Jims_Harddrive/Recovery -name \*.doc -exec cp {} /media/patrick/Jims_Harddrive/Recovered_Docs \;" only to have "cp: cannot stat '': No such file or directory" output many times. I am assuming it outputs for each "recup_dir.*" it encounters, although I could most likely be wrong.
[13:28] <Sircle> outoftime_92_,  its not working
[13:28] <Paddy_NI> It's a little confusing as I have previously used this very command in the past and it has worked marvellously
[13:28] <Paddy_NI> Perhaps I am missing something painfully obvious
[13:29] <akik> Paddy_NI: could be that the found files contain a space or some other character that does not fit well
[13:30] <akik> Paddy_NI: there's an option for find and xargs (-print0 and -0) that fix that problem. but i see you're not using xargs. maybe try using "{}"
[13:30] <outoftime_92_> SwedeMike: how did you do that?
[13:30] <Paddy_NI> akik, I have looked at a few of those documents (there are many) and the all have an uninteresting naming scheme
[13:30] <Paddy_NI> akik, It's in there
[13:30] <Paddy_NI> The {} that is
[13:30] <akik> Paddy_NI: i see you're not using "{}"
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> I am
[13:31] <akik> Paddy_NI: -> " <-
[13:31] <SwedeMike> autra: I dumped the EDID from the working TV using some kind of edid-dumping tool, and then I supply that EDID file through xorg.conf
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> Ah
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> akik, Thank you I will give that a go
[13:31] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: take this guy have a nice approach with stylesheet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGg1nyTY6oc
[13:32] <Paddy_NI> akik, You legend
[13:32] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: it turns out it's not a single-byte error
[13:32] <Paddy_NI> akik, If you are ever in Derry I'll buy you a pint
[13:33] <akik> Paddy_NI: i'll show you a bash alias that i wrote
[13:33] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[13:34] <akik> Paddy_NI: https://pastebin.com/raw/BGYGGuG3 (that find media files and runs ffprobe to get media details from them)
[13:34] <akik> Paddy_NI: it was really tricky to get the \ just right :)
[13:34] <Paddy_NI> akik, That is really cool
[13:36] <outoftime_92_> SwedeMike: I'm noob, can you explain more precisely?
[13:37] <SwedeMike> outoftime_92_: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/114359/how-to-get-edid-for-a-single-monitor
[13:38] <azureus> find an antenna ubiquiti airgrid m2 20 dbi reaches 1 km with houses in the middle?
[13:39] <ChrispyChris1992> Anyone using irsii?
[13:44] <dirc> I open nautilus and an usb is automounted by usbmount. However, when I want to use nautilus to format usb, nautilus complains 'not authorized to perform operation format disk format'. What should i configure to allow user to format usb disk without root privilege?
[13:44] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: in the video I show you, that guy exported EDID from Windows registry in order to recover EDID of the monitor
[13:46] <tmus>  During or after what I believe is a power outage, I have a string of "@^@^@^@^" in my rsyslog output. I can't seem to find anything describing this behavior, but it appears to be a deliberate warning that something strange went down here... Can anyone help elaborate on this?
[13:51] <frostschutz> tmus, if you're looking at it with vim or the like, it would show binary zero \0 as ^@
[13:51] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: doesn't help if what's in the Windows registry is also invalid though; I did a search in case somone else has that monitor and had dumped it's EDID in a log file somewhere but didn't find one
[13:52] <tmus> frostschutz, cool... Let me double check with hexdump... 2 sec
[13:54] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: how do you think, do I have a chance to contact asus support in order to provide valid EDID?
[13:55] <tmus> frostschutz, indeed \0. Any idea why a string of those would be logged?
[13:56] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: I'm figuring out where the exact problem is; if I can do that and create a correct EDID you could manually load that as SwedeMike said
[13:56] <tmus> (could be an indication that there seems to be a hole in the log which MIGHT be indicative of tampering - could be simply because it was stopped abruptly, but I can't find info on this)
[13:57] <frostschutz> tmus, not sure if that is intentional or a filesystem blooper since you mention power outage
[13:58] <tmus> frostschutz, okay thanks... I'll see if i can find a hint in the code or something
[13:58] <SwedeMike> my problem with EDID was that intel and AMD based graphics cards ignored the EDID checksum error, but nvidia rejected the EDID and only did 640x480 (out of the box). So I had to provide my own EDID file to get 1080p on nvidia ion.
[14:03] <outoftime_92_> SwedeMike: if there is a chance, I'd like to fix from the side of device
[14:04] <SwedeMike> outoftime_92_: I contacted Sony and asked about it, they only said I needed to bring it to a repair center to have it fixed, and pay for it. So it was easier to just fix it in xorg.conf
[14:05] <ChiLLabiS> Hi! I'm getting random crashes during playing vanilla WoW using wine 3.0, Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS. i'm still a newb on linux. Here's the syslog: https://pastebin.com/NLgz1XjB
[14:06] <Mr_Pan> ChiLLabiS, vanilla...
[14:06] <ChiLLabiS> yezz
[14:06] <__Det> ChiLLabiS: asd
[14:06] <ChiLLabiS> i think it's fun
[14:07] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: oh, turns out the "Detailed block string not properly terminated" is a red herring, so it looks like only the checksum needs altering!
[14:07] <ChiLLabiS> The pc crashes/freezes. and on other wine stuff
[14:11] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: I've a fixed EDID file for you: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/edid.ASUS_VW227_A9LMIZ002968.bin
[14:13] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: thank you, but how to use it?
[14:14] <outoftime_92_> SwedeMike: do you have expample of how to manually supply EDID in xorg.conf?
[14:14] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: checking now, it looks like this link but wait because it seems to infer the edid file would contain text, whereas we have pure binary data  https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3571/~/managing-a-display-edid-on-linux
[14:14] <SwedeMike> outoftime_92_: https://kodi.wiki/view/Creating_and_using_edid.bin_via_xorg.conf
[14:16] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: that looks straightforward, if you "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" I'll make changes so you know how it should look
[14:17] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: Aquire EDID is disabled
[14:18] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: is the PC firmware EFI?
[14:19] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: don't speak chineese
[14:19] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: x86 PC firmwares come in 2 varieties, BIOS or EFI. I see a bug report saying EFI causes the error you just mentioned
[14:23] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: how to find out what I have?
[14:23] <ars> Mmmm.
[14:23] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: ls /sys/firmware/efi  ... if it exists and has dirs/files it's EFI
[14:24] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory
[14:24] <robairt> Hey, my windows are suddenly attaching to the sides instead of top and bottom, which is making it annoying pulling windows between workstations. Anyone know what I messed up for it to be doing that?
[14:27] <Xatenev> hello
[14:27] <Xatenev> when trying to install libssl-dev i get An error occurred during the signature verification.
[14:27] <Xatenev> Tat is ubuntu 16.04
[14:27] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: OK, so where did you see the error you reported?
[14:28] <Xatenev> oh worked now
[14:28] <Xatenev> nvm
[14:29] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/meqx xorg
[14:29] <DiecastMessiah> robairt: unity?? it the hotpoints on the edges of screen.. but you save ya.. you can more a window by ctrl alt shirt ArrowKeys
[14:29] <DiecastMessiah> shift
[14:29] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: you didn't read the instructions SwedeMike and me linked you to; you've missed off two directives
[14:30] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: error was during "ls /sys/firmware/efi"
[14:30] <alexarnaud> Hello all
[14:30] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: read number "2" here https://kodi.wiki/view/Creating_and_using_edid.bin_via_xorg.conf#Configure_xorg_to_read_custom_EDID_file
[14:30] <scde> Hello, is the plan (again) to do the _automatic_ release upgrade (the prompt) from 16.04 to 18.04 once 18.04.1 is out? I think it was like that with the 16.04 release.
[14:30] <alexarnaud> I'm trying to help in bug triage on Launchpad.
[14:31] <alexarnaud> This bug has been fixed upstream, what is the process to mark it as resolved ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1618642
[14:31] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: It looks like you need "UseEDID" "true" and possibly "IgnoreEDID" "dalse"
[14:31] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: just generated with nvidia-xconfig as you mentioned
[14:32] <CarlFK1> alexarnaud: /j #ubuntu-bugs
[14:32] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: right, but I think the nvidia instructions may have been written some time ago and might not take into account the other options
[14:32] <alexarnaud> CarlFK1: thanks
[14:33] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: also, if you are planning in reinstalling in the future please *SAVE* the edid file I sent you :D
[14:33] <jim> hi, how can I find the versions of syncterm that have been packaged?
[14:34] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: You ought to move the file into /etc/X11/ with "sudo mv $HOME/Downloads/edid.* /etc/X11/" and then set that path in xorg.conf
[14:36] <LDH27612> Ok, whats the time line on 18.04's roll out??
[14:36] <scde> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[14:36] <LDH27612> Thank you
[14:37] <scde> Your welcome
[14:37] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: backed up on drive.google.com
[14:39] <geonidas> hello
[14:46] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/h3rh like this?
[14:46] <gnulligan> I have an ubuntu laptop with an encrypted hdd and I forgot the password. Whenever I reinstall ubuntu it still says my password is wrong, even if I change it to something like 123
[14:47] <gnulligan> could it have the original password saved somehow? I don't get a login decryption prompt so it's not encrypted anymore
[14:48] <mrchairman> gnulligan, weird man. I usually just rewrite over the drive... but then I'd lose all my data too
[14:49] <gnulligan> I don't have any data on it
[14:49] <gnulligan> I tried getting dban but sf is down
[14:49] <mrchairman> I never had that happen to me before
[14:49] <mrchairman> So, if you're taking advice from a random dude on irc, maybe try a different version of ubuntu?
[14:50] <frostschutz> gnulligan, there is more than one password prompt ... which one are you referring to exactly?
[14:51] <gnulligan> the encrypted disk password prompt isnt there anymore
[14:51] <gnulligan> meaning my disk isnt encrypted anymore
[14:51] <gnulligan> but I still can't sudo
[14:52] <frostschutz> so... you can log into the desktop fine, but sudo in the terminal then complains?
[14:54] <frostschutz> that'd be your regular user password, if you reinstalled
[14:54] <gnulligan> yes
[14:54] <gnulligan> right
[14:55] <frostschutz> so that password doesn't work when you try to sudo, but it works when you login to desktop in the first place? or did you choose autologin for that?
[14:55] <gnulligan> autologin right now
[14:55] <gnulligan> it was encrypted and I forgot the password
[14:55] <robairt> DiecastMessiah: it used to be I only had hitpoints on the top and bottom of my workstations, now it's on the sides of my screens
[14:56] <gnulligan> so I reinstalled ubuntu
[14:56] <gnulligan> and now sudo doesnt work
[14:56] <gnulligan> so it's two different passwords
[14:57] <tgm4883> gnulligan: sounds like you typo'd the password during install. Since it's not encrypted as you say, you should reset the password
[14:57] <frostschutz> gnulligan, does 'passwd' work, that'd let you change your password. if passwd also says your password is wrong, most likely it is wrong. otherwise you could have disabled sudo or something
[14:58] <ageis> is tatertotz/tatertots a trusted member of this channel?
[14:58] <gnulligan> tgm4883: I reinstalled literally 5 times so far
[14:59] <tgm4883> gnulligan: and you're installing ubuntu proper? Not debian or mint or something else? When you install, you're wiping the disk?
[15:00] <gnulligan> frostschutz: I'm reinstalling again, the password is a *single* character just to make sure there can't be any possible way I can typo. And its trisquel
[15:01] <tgm4883> gnulligan: don't select autologin either
[15:01] <tgm4883> gnulligan: also, what keyboard layout are you using
[15:02] <frostschutz> gnulligan, you don't need to reinstall because of a password. live cd, mount, chroot, set one with 'passwd'
[15:02] <frostschutz> gnulligan, also normally the system will tell you to "choose a longer password" (when trying to change with passwd anyhow)
[15:02] <tgm4883> frostschutz: he doesn't even need the live cd
[15:02] <gnulligan> well I did originally because it was encrypted frostschutz
[15:03] <gnulligan> tgm4883: layout shouldnt be an issue because even if my password is the letter p and p maps to q, then I'd still type it the same way when prompted
[15:03] <robbinzone> hi all, I am trying to bind the command "xte "mousedown 1"" to <CTRL>Button1 via CompizConfigManager in Ubuntu, but cannot seem to make that key+mouseclick combination do the "click and hold" action that I need. Advice, anyone? (I have installed the xautomation package)
[15:04] <tgm4883> gnulligan: unless it's changing between live cd and install for some reason
[15:05] <sam6> Trying to use wget to download all jpg files in a web directory(password protected page) using this command for now<wget --http-user=myusername --http-password=mypassword http://www.link.com/members http://www.link.com/members/galary/directory  HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized Authentication selected: Basic realm="RESTRICTED" Reusing existing connection to link.com:80. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 N
[15:05] <gnulligan> ok I got a little more info
[15:06] <gnulligan> I set it to a 1 char password, encrypted and wiped free space when installing
[15:06] <gnulligan> to make sure everything that could possibly be there was overwritten
[15:06] <gnulligan> the new encryption password worked fine
[15:06] <gnulligan> and the login password worked fine
[15:07] <gnulligan> su returns "su:Authentication failure"
[15:07] <tgm4883> gnulligan: 'sudo su' ?
[15:07] <gnulligan> lol
[15:08] <gnulligan> uh, thanks :)
[15:08] <frostschutz> su is normal, su needs the root password. sudo is the user password
[15:08] <tgm4883> gnulligan: yw
[15:08] <gnulligan> XD
[15:12] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: ASUS_VW227_A9LMIZ002968 matches with label on the monitor
[15:12] <outoftime_92_> TJ-: I suppose I have to log out and restart lightgdm
[15:23] <TJ-> outoftime_92_: Is it working correctly now?
[15:24] <outoftime_92> TJ-: no... highest resolution is 640x480
[15:25] <TJ-> outoftime_92: as always, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:25] <outoftime_92> TJ-: paste output?
[15:26] <TJ-> outoftime_92: yes please
[15:26] <pikapika> Hi. I am backing up the /usr, /var, /home, /bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib6, /etc, /opt as tar files. Later I will boot with a live flash drive and create a dd image of the Ubuntu partition.
[15:26] <pikapika> My question is...is this sufficient? Like say I start with a fresh install of the same version of Ubuntu (16.04 lts) and untar these to appropriate locations, will I get back the same apps and
[15:26] <pikapika> settings and updated state as before? Do I unpack these while normally opened as a desktop or do I do these as cli mode before gui are loaded?
[15:26] <outoftime_92> TJ-: http://termbin.com/0u0o
[15:28] <TJ-> outoftime_92: ha! " Unable to use EDID file" " '/etc/X11/edid.ASUS_VW227_A9LMIZ002968.bin': file format not recognized"
[15:30] <TJ-> outoftime_92: oh, silly me, I only sent you half the file! It's supposed to be 256 bytes, I only sent you 128 bytes :D
[15:30] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I'm using irssi and tty (ctrl+alt+f1) in order to stay in touch
[15:31] <outoftime_92> TJ-: can you wrote wget command?
[15:32] <TJ-> outoftime_92: do this to fix it on your system: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/etc/X11/edid.ASUS_VW227_A9LMIZ002968.bin bs=128 count=1 seek=1 conv=notrunc"
[15:33] <TJ-> outoftime_92: that will add 128  0-bytes to the end, so a restart of lightdm will then work (hopefully!)
[15:35] <pikapika> I mean its kinda stupid to have to download all packages and updates again for a new install
[15:35] <pikapika> when its the exact same os and hardware
[15:35] <wafflejock> pikapika why not just clone the drive with DD if you want the same exact image
[15:36] <pikapika> Thing is, I might be changing the position and size of the partition
[15:36] <outoftime_92> TJ-: it does n't http://termbin.com/ff8k
[15:36] <pikapika> its a dual boot, I am removing the Windows (it'll be installed on another hdd) and making it a pure Ubuntu system
[15:37] <wafflejock> pikapika still I'd think you could resize the partition from a livecd would look into that though
[15:37] <pikapika> So the parition will be shifted left, and also increase in size to occupy all the new space
[15:37] <TJ-> pikapika: the way to do it is to shrink the file-system to it's minimum size and then dd just that. When you write it to another system you can write it into a larger partition and then resize the file-system so it uses the entire partition
[15:37] <pikapika> wafflejock: In fact thats precisely what I am doing, I am keeping the backups just it case that approach fails so I'd do a fresh install and copy over files in that case
[15:38] <pikapika> TJ- ok I will look into this
[15:38] <TJ-> outoftime_92: check the file is now 256 bytes; " ls -l /etc/X11/edid.*"
[15:38] <pikapika> Does the gparted gui from live cd do this?
[15:38] <gnulligan> I'm trying to edit a bootable usb drive but it says its write-protected
[15:38] <pikapika> I read some pages that said to just delete the win partition and ask gparted to resize it
[15:38] <TJ-> pikapika: It might do; I use command-line tools to do such things though
[15:38] <gnulligan> I tried hdparm -r0 /dev/sdb
[15:39] <gnulligan> and hdparm -r0 /dev/sdb1
[15:39] <pikapika> If not then I have no qualms doing some cmd line stuff with gpart or whatever
[15:39] <gnulligan> while mounted and unmounted
[15:39] <outoftime_92> TJ-: exactly 256 bytes
[15:39] <pikapika> And yes I am also saving a dd of partition just in case
[15:39] <pikapika> Its only 50 gb after all
[15:39] <gnulligan> and it still says block device /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[15:40] <hggdh> donofrio: as the error message suggest, permission issues (like ~/.cache is owned by a different user)
[15:40] <gnulligan> also it doesnt show in file manager
[15:41] <donofrio> hggdh, who is it suppose to be owned by
[15:44] <hggdh> donofrio: usually a directory /home/<username> is owned by <username>, which is the user logged in
[15:49] <hggdh> donofrio: sometimes we see people running things as root (because... IDK, they thing this is Windows?)
[15:50] <hggdh> donofrio: then files and directories get owned by root, and the user loses access
[15:50] <tgm4883> hggdh: sounds like those people's root access should be removed
[15:52] <hggdh> tgm4883: not so much removed -- these folks should be instructed, re-educated, and learn
[15:52] <outoftime_92> tgm4883: for those people linux mint exists
[15:52] <outoftime_92> hggdh: yeah, it is about me
[15:52] <donofrio> hggdh, yah I dunno why these happen...it's ok these are just one of many that I'm reviewing to see 1 -10 scale like this - everything running ok just these console messages - https://apaste.info/xUGy
[15:55] <ChiLLabiS> Is there a good command or gui for getting computerspecs? For example motherboard name and numbers etc
[15:56] <xandowsk> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:56] <ChiLLabiS> okay thanks
[15:56] <kostkon> !inxi
[15:56] <xandowsk> np
[15:56] <kostkon> hmm
[15:57] <hggdh> donofrio: what would I be looking for in the pastebin?
[15:57] <natex> @ChiLLabiS, lshw
[15:57] <donofrio> nothing much just my warnings of a working setup....
[15:58] <kostkon> !info inxi | ChiLLabiS, also
[16:00] <TJ-> pikapika: if the file-system is ext3/4 then you can simply do this (to the un-mounted FS, and set DEV= and OUTFILE= for your values) "DEV=/dev/VG_OS/ubuntu_16.04_rootfs; OUTFILE=path/to/file.img;  D=$(readlink -e $DEV); sudo resize2fs -M $D;  B=$(dumpe2fs -h $D |  awk '/^Block count:/{c=$3}/^Block size:/{s=$3;print c*s; exit}'); sudo dd if=$D "of=$OUTFILE" bs=256M count=$B iflag=count_bytes status=progress"
[16:02] <TJ-> outoftime_92: I wonder if the nvidia EDID loader only reads some sort of formatted text files
[16:04] <ChiLLabiS> Okay thanks for the replys :)
[16:06] <outoftime_92> TJ-: you gave me link with disabled button, there is a line, that EDID can be exported as ASCII file in format that windows use
[16:08] <TJ-> outoftime_92: right, but the current EDID is reported invalid so it might be broken. Use that nvidia-settings command to capture then EDID then pastebinit and I'll check it looks OK
[16:10] <TJ-> outoftime_92: sorry, the nvidia-xconfig command
[16:10] <TJ-> outoftime_92: if it says it wrote 256 bytes then it'll be the binary dump which presumably has the bad checksum
[16:22] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I can not capture EDID via nvidia-settings, button disabled
[16:27] <godxeno> herro
[16:27] <godxeno> can anyone help me?
[16:27] <outoftime_92> godxeno: ask
[16:27] <godxeno> im using vnc
[16:28] <godxeno> and it's only showing
[16:28] <godxeno> the shell not the ubuntu server graphics gui
[16:28] <godxeno> is there a command to show me the actual desktop
[16:29] <tgm4883> godxeno: did you install ubuntu server?
[16:31] <outoftime_92> godxeno: afaik, there are 2 modes: text mode and graphics mode. Image can be displayed in graphics mode. You can display it with pseudographics using ASCII characters, for instance
[16:32] <tgm4883> pseudographics?
[16:33] <outoftime_92> tgm4883: don't ever seen videos with ASCII graphics?
[16:33] <TJ-> outoftime_92: it's a command-line operation, not GUI, using nvidia-xconfig, section 2.3.2, step 1 of the kodi.wiki page
[16:33] <tgm4883> outoftime_92: you mean ncurses?
[16:35] <JimBuntu> I got your pseudographics - https://pastebin.com/JXq5udHc
[16:35] <godxeno> im using it through a vps
[16:35] <godxeno> i already have the details for it
[16:36] <tgm4883> godxeno: then it's probably ubuntu server, which is command line only
[16:36] <kostkon> godxeno, you'll need to find out whether it's a server installation
[16:36] <outoftime_92> TJ-: do you want me to rewrite xorg.conf?
[16:36] <godxeno> yeah it's a server
[16:37] <godxeno> is there a way to show a gui
[16:37] <outoftime_92> tgm4883: google for "ascii video"
[16:37] <godxeno> it shows up for a split secend then turns into a shell based
[16:37] <TJ-> outoftime_92: not yet, just need to use those --extract-edids-from-file and --extract-edids-output-file options to grab the EDID
[16:37] <tgm4883> godxeno: interesting. This sounds like a support question for your VPS provider
[16:37] <JimBuntu> godxeno, depending on if X11 is there... and how your SSH settings/etc are configured... you may be able to open specific applications in GUI mode... try `xeyes`
[16:38] <GDiaX> º2qse-35.+0+
[16:38] <GDiaX> +87777777
[16:38] <JimBuntu> godxeno, Oh, you are using VNC, my apologies
[16:39] <outoftime_92> TJ-: from where, what file should be used as a source?
[16:41] <TJ-> outoftime_92: the xorg log file; "sudo nvidia-xconfig --extract-edids-from-file=/var/log/Xorg.0.log --extract-edids-output-file=/etc/X11/edid.bin"
[16:42] <TJ-> outoftime_92: then check what kind of file that has created with "file /etc/X11/edid.bin" and it's size with "ls -l /etc/X11/edid.bin"
[16:42] <jonnybebee> hello
[16:42] <outoftime_92> TJ-: on my way
[16:43] <jonnybebee> im trying to name all .jpg files the same filename in one folder is this possible?
[16:43] <GPenguin> hello, is evince still the primary choice as document viewer?
[16:43] <eraserpencil> is it common to have nginx as both web and reverse proxy
[16:43] <eraserpencil> ?
[16:43] <TJ-> jonnybebee: the question makes no sense; you can't have the same filename repeated in the same directory
[16:43] <godxeno> JimBuntu do u mind if i pm you directly
[16:44] <godxeno> since it's moving to quickly
[16:44] <JimBuntu> that's fine godxeno
[16:44] <mutante> TJ-: it does make sense, it's just that the answer is "no" :p
[16:44] <outoftime_92> TJ-: found 0 edids in log
[16:45] <JimBuntu> godxeno, I will say that since you are using VNC, I'm not sure how much help I can be.
[16:45] <jonnybebee> @tj i have alot of jpgs they have to be a certain name for my script to recognize them so instead of doing it one by one i wanted to see could i do them all at once
[16:45] <kostkon> jonnybebee, nonetheless, if you fancy using a gui app for your renaming needs, check out pyrenamer
[16:46] <TSpy> anyone home???
[16:46] <jonnybebee> for f in **/cover.jpg ;do mv "$f" "${f%/*}/front.jpg" ;done is what i used before
[16:47] <jonnybebee> that command only recognizes the file name cover some of the filenames are random
[16:47] <outoftime_92> TSpy: what?
[16:48] <TSpy> @outoftime_92 just checking if anyone in chat lol
[16:48] <kostkon> TSpy, ET go home?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> TSpy  this is the ubuntu support channel
[16:50] <TJ-> jonnybebee: that command is going to overwrite front.jpg continuously; if the command you want to execute is inside thae for loop it can be passed front.jpg. If it changes the file in-place then you'd need to rename it again afterwards to prevent it being overwritten by the next iteration of the loop
[16:51] <outoftime_92> T
[16:51] <jonnybebee> @TJ i understand now
[16:51] <jonnybebee> im going to look more into this thanks for the help
[16:51] <outoftime_92> TJ-: jonnybebee I think he needs to extract basedir and change name
[16:51] <ansar> hello is there anybody who can help me to resolve the error: apt-get failed(100) error in ubuntu server when installing ubuntu-desktop through sudo tasksel
[16:52] <jonnybebee> @ansar do sudo apt-get update then try again
[16:53] <ansar> i did thatno result
[16:53] <outoftime_92> jonnybebee: I suppose you need rename all cover.jpg into front.jpg
[16:53] <jonnybebee> @outoftime_92 correct
[16:55] <nutzz> Take a look at the following log https://pastebin.com/0fW7DE1B
[16:55] <outoftime_92> jonnybebee: take `basedir $f`/front.jpg something like this, google how to extract basedir from file path
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> jonnybebee  you can easily drop the @ ... simply type 2-3 characters of a name and then hit tab to auto complete
[16:55] <ansar> jonnybebee: i wanted to get ubuntu-desktop so that i can work using GUI
[16:55] <nutzz> https://pastebin.com/0fW7DE1B Where am I doing it wrong?
[16:55] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I can try with Xorg.1.log
[16:56] <ansar> else i wanted to know can i open webpage from cli whthout installing ubuntu-desktop
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> ansar  there a www browsers for the terminal
[16:58] <TJ-> outoftime_92: jonnybebee's shell command is already extracting the basedir :)
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> !info lynx| ansar
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> !info lynx | ansar
[17:00] <outoftime_92> TJ-: then there are no problems, I mean, there are no file colision etc.
[17:00] <outoftime_92> TJ-: except, front.jpg can be overrided
[17:01] <ansar> actually i was installing ubuntu-desktop  in ubuntu server 16.04 but every time getting errorapt-get failed(100) not knowing how to comu out of it
[17:02] <jonnybebee> @outoftime_92 the command works correctly it changed all files from cover to front for me in all folders had to change 1000
[17:04] <jim> godxeno, hi! still here?
[17:04] <jonnybebee> now i must mass zip the folders so i came up with the following command for dir in */; do ( cd "./$dir" && zip -9r  "../${dir%/}.zip" . ); done
[17:04] <outoftime_92> jonnybebee: then it's my fault, I didn't understand question
[17:07] <romeo> how can i install wine on  ubuntu 16
[17:07] <leftyfb> romeo: sudo apt install wine
[17:07] <leftyfb> romeo: just like every other package
[17:07] <romeo> this is giving me error "wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed"
[17:08] <leftyfb> romeo: what version of ubuntu?
[17:08] <romeo> 16.04
[17:08] <leftyfb> romeo: apt-cache policy wine
[17:08] <leftyfb> romeo: use pastebin please
[17:08] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I have 2 xorg log files Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old both have 0 EDID
[17:09] <romeo> here is the output f sudo apt install wine. https://pastebin.com/brXzsFDA
[17:09] <outoftime_92> TJ-: tell me what you are looking for, maybe I'll find it faster
[17:10] <leftyfb> romeo: apt-cache policy wine
[17:11] <TJ-> outoftime_92: I have no idea; the info on the modi.wiki page tells us that command is supposed to extract the EDID data from the log-file into a binary - which is precisely what I did anyhow
[17:12] <romeo> here is the output. https://pastebin.com/Tmf5c7QD
[17:12] <outoftime_92> TJ-: when? with my first log I have pasted?
[17:12] <TJ-> yes. all your Xorg logs have the EDID dumped as hex bytes in them
[17:13] <leftyfb> romeo: you might want to change your repo from in.archive.ubuntu.com to some other repo. Seems like that repo isn't quite updated properly
[17:13] <outoftime_92> TJ-: so if I'll find link on first pastebin it will work?
[17:13] <romeo> how can i do that
[17:14] <leftyfb> romeo: the "Software and Updates" application. Change "Download from"
[17:16] <TJ-> outoftime_92: as I said all the Xorg logs you've pastebinned have the data. It's prefixed with "Raw EDID bytes:"
[17:18] <outoftime_92> TJ-: http://termbin.com/89y1
[17:21] <romeo> changed it to main server, it updated its cache . now what do i do
[17:21] <romeo> sudo apt install wine still giving the same error
[17:21] <outoftime_92> TJ-: there is raw bytes...
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> romeo  sudo apt update
[17:22] <romeo> done that . still same error
[17:23] <ioria> romeo, and    sudo apt install  wine1.6    ?
[17:23] <leftyfb> romeo: sudo apt update && sudo apt install wine
[17:24] <leftyfb> romeo: oh, missed above
[17:24] <leftyfb> romeo: what does "apt-cache policy wine" say now?
[17:25] <romeo> leftyfb: same output
[17:25] <leftyfb> romeo: negative. It will not be the same output if you changed the repo
[17:26] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I have idea, what if I'll connect monitor to notebook and find out will it be recognized or not
[17:28] <romeo> i changed it from india server to main server, now i am doing it again , changing it to mirror.clarkson.edu/ubuntu
[17:29] <leftyfb> romance: try us.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:30] <romeo> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/3zyPrZAu
[17:30] <kostkon> romeo, you could also use the wine repo to install wine 3.x although you'll probably be refused support here if you ask help on that
[17:31] <leftyfb> kostkon: resolving package issues from the main repo should be the priority
[17:31] <kostkon> leftyfb, as always
[17:32] <leftyfb> romeo: sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt-get install wine
[17:32] <leftyfb> romeo: please paste the output of all of that to pastebin
[17:32] <outoftime> TJ-: nope, didn't work as I expected...
[17:33] <nutzz> What should I do if I get this error https://pastebin.com/raw/zDKYBDXF?
[17:33] <romeo> leftyfb: its updating cache. just bear with me
[17:33] <nutzz> running apt --fix-broken install does nothing
[17:35] <T4P4N> Hi
[17:36] <T4P4N> hello
[17:36] <T4P4N> is anyone out there
[17:36] <T4P4N> ?
[17:36] <wafflejock> T4P4N yes this is ubuntu support chat though
[17:36] <leftyfb> !ask | T4P4N
[17:36] <outoftime_92> TJ-: as I mentioned earlier, I didn't actually need nvidia
[17:37] <outoftime_92> TJ-: nouveu should be good, but it hurt my eyes
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> T4P4N  this is the ubuntu support channel
[17:39] <chris____> Does anyone here know about irssi, the IRC chat client?
[17:39] <outoftime_92> chris____: i don't know, just using it
[17:40] <leftyfb> chris____: we do not take surveys here. If you have a support issue, please detail the issue you have.
[17:40] <chris____> Well I'm trying to get the hilight feature to work on Ubuntu and nothing I do seems to make a difference.
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> chris____  i'm using irssi
[17:41] <leftyfb> ChrispyChris92: did you try #irssi?
[17:41] <ChrispyChris92> I've tried tons of different hilight commands and am starting to wonder if it isn't working because of my Ubuntu setup, rather than the wrong setting in app.
[17:41] <ChrispyChris92> Oh, I'll look and see if that works.
[17:41] <ChrispyChris92> Thank you!
[17:42] <ovidnis> Anyone know why ctrl would not work in various games on ubuntu?
[17:43] <outoftime_92> #irssi
[17:43] <ovidnis> it's happening in both native and emulated games
[17:46] <romeo> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/4Jpt3sjT
[17:47] <zlsyx> Given a table with countries name and language they speak how to find the way that 2 countries speak the same language? Like Enaldn English and U.S. English then England and U.S. speark same language. Should I use join for this?
[17:48] <leftyfb> romeo: you have a bit of a mess of a sources.list
[17:48] <leftyfb> zlsyx: are you talking mysql?
[17:49] <leftyfb> romeo: you should edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and make it look similar to this: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DgnTF6TZ6n/
[17:50] <kostkon> zlsyx, not the best place to ask about sql rdbms and the likes
[17:51] <leftyfb> romeo: try #mysql or whatever db solution you're using
[17:51] <leftyfb> romeo: oops, wrong person
[17:51] <leftyfb> zlsyx: try #mysql or whatever db solution you're using
[17:54] <romeo> leftyfb: done that. now  "sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt-get install wine" is being executed
[17:58] <romeo> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/XBtdEp7X
[17:59] <romeo> still getting error
[17:59] <jim> careful with the -y... once you see what you're updating, you may or may not wish to
[18:00] <leftyfb> romeo: you aren't posting everything
[18:00] <leftyfb> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[18:00] <leftyfb>  
[18:00] <leftyfb> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:00] <leftyfb> there should be something between those lines
[18:01] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I suppose you have no will to answer my questions any more
[18:02] <kostkon> outoftime_92, or no time maybe?
[18:02] <romeo> leftyfb: it is blank.
[18:03] <romeo> leftyfb:https://imagebin.ca/v/3tVwUPDYpW1x
[18:04] <kostkon> outoftime_92, well even your nick probably concurs
[18:04] <romeo> leftyfb: you can even check the image
[18:04] <leftyfb> romeo: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[18:05] <leftyfb> anything show up when you run that?
[18:05] <Dbugger> Hi everyone
[18:06] <Dbugger> I have an issue with 17.10. I heard that CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+R can be used to record your screen and make webm videos, but when I try this, the .webm file created is always 0 bytes.
[18:06] <Dbugger> Why could be this happening?
[18:07] <kostkon> Dbugger, only when on wayland i think or is the other way around?
[18:07] <Dbugger> kostkon, sorry, what? I did not understand the question
[18:07] <Dbugger> I am not sure what Wayland is...
[18:09] <Dbugger> "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" returns "ubuntu"
[18:09] <Dbugger> I guess that means I am in X. I just read that if I was in Wayland, it would return "gnome-wayland"
[18:12] <outoftime_92> kostkon: what's wrong with nick?
[18:12] <romeo> leftyfb: no
[18:12] <romeo> leftyfb: nothing is showing up
[18:12] <kostkon> Dbugger, i wask afk. yes. in the x session you can probably use any of the 3rd party screen recorders like simplescreenrecorder
[18:12] <leftyfb> romeo: ok, I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and got a lot going on at work and still haven't had lunch yet
[18:13] <kostkon> outoftime_92, nothing wrong with it
[18:13] <romeo> leftyfb: please do that. i will try it later. thanks
[18:13] <Dbugger> kostkon, while that is an option I weight in, I was wondering why could the native way of doing this not be working...
[18:14] <Guest29277> Dbugger, run the command "env | grep -i wayland" if you have an output, you're running wayland.
[18:14] <Redman276> hello all
[18:15] <geonidas_> drone
[18:15] <calir> helo?
[18:15] <geonidas_> hi
[18:15] <Redman276> I have a video issue I need a hand with, I cnt seem to figure out how to put X in VESA mode. I'm tuck looking at the rt 1/4 of the desktop.. any ideas?
[18:15] <calir> is this IRC?
[18:15] <Boyette> yes
[18:15] <geonidas_> no
[18:16] <kostkon> Dbugger, probably the built-in one only supports wayland moreover it seems it's the only recorder that currently supports it
[18:16] <Dbugger> kostkon, I see. I will try to find out how to use wayland, and try it there
[18:20] <voot> Hi All. I'm upgrading a production 14.04LTS server to 16.04LTS, but I get "No new release found" using do-release-upgrade
[18:20] <voot> This system is behind a firewall and only has access to the gatech.edu repo.
[18:22] <Guest29277> voot: have you tried do-release-upgrade -d
[18:22] <nacc> Guest29277: that's not what you want to do
[18:22] <voot> Yes. And I have tried -c. I get no results either way
[18:23] <voot> I didn't want to do a -d, but its interesting that didn't work either
[18:23] <voot> I ran an apt-get dist-upgrade, which took my kernel up a level
[18:24] <voot> I also tried manually changing sources from trusty to xenial and running do-release-upgrade, but that didn't work either, so I reverted the sources.
[18:24] <nacc> voot: you wouldn't d-r-u in that case, just normal apt dist-upgrade, but that's less supported
[18:26] <outoftime_92> TJ-: ask if you need some favor
[18:26] <voot> Of course I'd like to go with the correct method of d-r-u...this is a RADIUS system for a university
[18:26] <voot> It has to be correct
[18:27] <antonlavrynets> hello from matrix! I'm first time enjoying reality!
[18:27] <Emery> I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu on my keyboard, I've plugged the USB on but it doesn't boot?
[18:28] <Emery> I used win32 to copy the image onto my 256mb USB
[18:28] <Emery> Does it matter if it's a non-branded USB stick or Corsair?
[18:28] <ovidnis> anyone have any clue why ctrl wouldn't work in certain program?
[18:28] <Emery> Also it's a razer keyboard
[18:28] <voot> Emery: use unetbootin to create your boot usb
[18:29] <voot> Emery:  you can't just copy the image in most cases
[18:29] <Emery> voot: I've tried that also, but when I plug it into my keyboard it doesn't boot
[18:29] <voot> Emery: plug directly into the computer. the usb hub in the keyboard may not be initialized in time to be recognized by the bios
[18:30] <Emery> Does it matter which USB slot I plug it into, I have 12
[18:30] <Emery> I have one built into my mobo near to the CPU will that effect speed?
[18:30] <voot> It should be in a USB port directly connected to the mainboard
[18:30] <voot> no hubs
[18:30] <Emery> Should I try and boot from a Floppy? I have one of those
[18:31] <compdoc> the blue usb ports are usb3, and should be faster. but sometimes finicky
[18:31] <Emery> I don't think the image will fit onto that though
[18:32] <voot> lol
[18:32] <Emery> voot: ?
[18:32] <voot> anyone else have ideas about do-release-upgrade? does it pull only from the apt sources list?
[18:32] <Emery> voot: Why are you laughing? Is this a support channel or not?
[18:32] <Emery> I got XP to boot with a floppy
[18:36] <Emery> voot: https://tinyurl.com/yaeg8uub There's an article here on how to get it to boot from a floppy, can I still do this?
[18:37] <voot> an op should kick this guy
[18:38] <Exterminador> or there's something very wrong with Xubuntu or probably some package I have installed. login loop again only in my account (no .config or .local folder)
[18:38] <Emery> rofl
[18:40] <bparker> I have a package that only came with an init.d script instead of a systemd service unit. I could not get it to start via the built-in sysvinit support systemd (or whatever it is called) but finally figured out that it was because of a ENABLED=0 in the /etc/default/$NAME file. However, while the init.d script logs this error, I do not see it printing its log_progress_msg anywhere, and
[18:40] <bparker> /lib/lsb/init-functions says that it that function "should be a no-op on Ubuntu", except it just does a simple print, but I'm not able to see that in any log anywhere. What's going on?
[18:41] <Exterminador> someone shoot me already. not having any problems with normal Ubuntu, just the damn Xubuntu. and in Xubuntu I can access the other accounts, except my own
[18:41] <bparker> basically I'm just trying to figure out how I would have debugged this issue without realizing that default file mistake
[18:41] <Exterminador> isn't that damn weird?
[18:46] <Exterminador> this is the content of `la .` > http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wDRTp95NRK/
[18:46] <tgm4883> Exterminador: did you look in .xsession-errors
[18:48] <Exterminador> .xsession-errors > http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/McBHZWxbtx/
[18:48] <Sven_vB> I'm trying to make puppet (the config management tool) install wine1.8, but without ttf-mscorefonts-installer, which wine recommends. any ideas? is there an easy way to ban that package on a dpkg level maybe?
[18:49] <donofrio> how do I turn off keychain dialog in chromium ubuntu (always seemed like a very terrible idea even 20 years ago...)
[18:50] <Sven_vB> I already configured puppet to uninstall ttf-ms… but puppet doesn't connect the dots, so it depends on timing whether it will be removed after being installed.
[18:50] <tgm4883> Exterminador: have you tried creating ~/.cache/sessions/
[18:50] <Sven_vB> donofrio, in case keychain is a separate package, you could try uninstalling it.
[18:51] <Exterminador> tgm4883: the folder ~/.cache/sessions does exist
[18:51] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: you could set dependency order in puppet.
[18:51] <Exterminador> and wasn't created by me
[18:51] <tgm4883> Exterminador: which is why I asked if you have tried creating it
[18:51] <Exterminador> oops
[18:52] <Sven_vB> tgm4883, yeah, however I'd like to avoid having an explicit dependency between my wine and fonts package. also I'd prefer to not install ttf-ms… in the first place.
[18:52] <Exterminador> you're right
[18:52] <Exterminador> the folder doesn't exist
[18:52] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: have you tried adding   install_options => ['--no-install-recommends'],
[18:53] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: https://serverfault.com/questions/513588/no-apt-recommends-with-puppet
[18:53] <Sven_vB> tgm4883, nope, I'll try that. I've searched the docs for "recommend" but I see how that missed it.
[18:53] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[18:54] <Sorfrost> TJ-, hey man you there?
[18:54] <Exterminador> I don't know what else to do?
[18:54] <Amm0n> Exterminador, you're missing .config too
[18:55] <Exterminador> I've deleted those. last time I had to delete them
[18:55] <Exterminador> but now, it doesn't work either way..
[18:55] <tgm4883> Exterminador: last time?
[18:56] <Exterminador> tgm4883: yes. it's the 2nd or 3rd time that this issue happens. I can login to all other accounts in the laptop, except my own
[18:56] <Sven_vB> Exterminador, if access permissions are the problem, you can also appropriate the folder instead of deleting it.
[18:56] <tgm4883> Exterminador: You should attempt to identify what you're doing that keeps breaking your login
[18:57] <tgm4883> Exterminador: For starters, looking at log files (as I requested) shows it complaining that the directory doesn't exist
[18:57] <jerware> hello.
[18:57] <tgm4883> Exterminador: I don't have a ton of time to sink into this, I'd probably just create a new user and migrate your stuff over
[18:58] <Amm0n> Exterminador, try to delete .ICEautority, then copy a .config from another user
[18:59] <Amm0n> Exterminador, and use backups in the future
[19:01] <Exterminador> it doesn't work
[19:01] <Exterminador> not even removing . ICEauthority
[19:03] <bronius> nius
[19:03] <bronius> cjndcj
[19:03] <AndroBuilder> hello :) how can i unblock my wifi ....? it says "Hard blocked yes" using rfkill list
[19:04] <bronius> bronius
[19:07] <Exterminador> something is failing in the widgets thing. is any way to restore all to default?
[19:07] <ovidnis> anyone have any clue why ctrl wouldn't work in certain programs? namely games like team fortress and total war. i used the tweak tool to set caps lock to super if that has anything to do with it...
[19:07] <AndroBuilder> IBM ThinkPAd T60   wifi hard blocked YES .... how can i change this
[19:07] <Sven_vB> can I configure dpkg via environment variables, too? I'd like to set --no-install-recommends for all apt and dpkg launched from my script.
[19:08] <Sven_vB> (they're launched indirectly)
[19:10] <jerware> I'm looking for nc6 or netcat6
[19:11] <Sven_vB> jerware, this one? http://www.deepspace6.net/projects/netcat6.html
[19:11] <Sven_vB> jerware, might be easier to use a modern vanialla netcat though.
[19:12] <jerware> ok.  what is meant by vanilla?  Is that what comes with ubuntu repos?
[19:13] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: https://askubuntu.com/questions/179060/how-to-not-install-recommended-and-suggested-packages
[19:13] <Sven_vB> tgm4883, thanks again!
[19:13] <Exterminador> thanks for the help tho. I think I need to reinstall ALL again and lose all the data I have (I don't have any way to backup the system)
[19:13] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: dpkg has no concept of recommends, you shouldn't use it to install packages anyway
[19:13] <Sven_vB> tgm4883, in case you found that via search engine, which one?
[19:13] <jerware> oh vanilla means default or ordinary
[19:14] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: google
[19:14] <tgm4883> Exterminador: you could setup a new user and copy your stuff over
[19:15] <Exterminador> tgm4883: weirdly this only happens only to my account.. yesterday was working perfectly. today I booted into Ubuntu to update it. when I returned to Xubuntu, this happens
[19:15] <Exterminador> I'm so angry right now..
[19:16] <tgm4883> Exterminador: you booted into ubuntu to update it, then returned to Xubuntu?
[19:16] <Exterminador> yes
[19:16] <tgm4883> Exterminador: do you have multiple full installs, or just multiple desktop environments?
[19:17] <Exterminador> multiple full installs. I need to restart to enter each OS
[19:17] <tgm4883> Exterminador: do your installs share a home directory?
[19:17] <Exterminador> no, they're separated I guess. each one has it's own partition and stuff
[19:18] <tgm4883> Then unless you're having hardware failure, you changed something on the Xubuntu install. Either via update or something else
[19:18] <Exterminador> Windows in /sda1, Xubuntu in /sda6 and Ubuntu in /sda5
[19:18] <tgm4883> Exterminador: out of curiosity, why 2 Ubuntu installs?
[19:20] <Exterminador> well, I installed the normal Ubuntu when it was in the early beginning of 17.10 (like one or 2 days after being released)
[19:20] <Exterminador> because I wanted to try the new features
[19:20] <tgm4883> ah
[19:24] <Exterminador> the problem about Ubuntu is that my kids don't find it so easy to work with as Xubuntu (they use it mainly to play educational games and watch anime on YouTube), when comes to logout (they're used to the xfce prompt tho)
[19:24] <tgm4883> Exterminador: well if it helps, that's not typical behavior. Things shouldn't just break. And since other accounts work fine, it's an issue with just your account, meaning a full reinstall isn't necessary. You can just create a new account, move your stuff to it and then delete the old account
[19:26] <Exterminador> tgm4883: just as last intent > how to restore the desktop environment to its fresh installed (on the .xsession-errors I see it complaining about some widget(?))
[19:28] <tgm4883> Exterminador: hmm, what do you have in '/etc/skel' (hidden folders too)
[19:29] <Exterminador> .bash_logout, .bashrc, .config/, .profile .Xdefaults, .xscreensaver
[19:29] <tgm4883> Exterminador: you might just be able to copy those into your home directory and overwrite everything, but you might just need to create a new user and copy that stuff over (it might make new files/folders on user create). You'd need to set ownership on that stuff correctly
[19:38] <qswz> I can't get crontab to work, http://dpaste.com/12R8S3W the script I run uses sudo, so I added it sudo crontab -e, it didn"t work, I tried sudo -u caub crontab -e
[19:39] <qswz> http://dpaste.com/1QH2HDT <-- what's weird is systemctl status cron  shows it was acrivated and ran those things
[19:40] <qswz> but it didn"t have effect on my session
[19:40] <geirha> qswz: cron runs outside your X session.
[19:40] <qswz> I guess the issue is sudo
[19:40] <qswz> geirha: ahh
[19:40] <qswz> dang it, is there a way tho?
[19:40] <qswz> thanks
[19:40] <geirha> I suggest you run it in your session instead; via xdg-autostart
[19:40] <geirha> using an infinite loop and some sleeps
[19:41] <qswz> ohh ok
[19:41] <qswz> Thanks again
[19:42] <vile> you can cron an suid script to execute, but probably not very secure
[19:43] <will075> Hola alguna, sala, q orienten sobre instalación en español?
[19:44] <qswz> vile: How would cron run it in X session?
[19:46] <varaindemian> Does ubuntu 16.04.4 have gnome?
[19:46] <varaindemian> As the default de?
[19:47] <nacc> varaindemian: no
[19:50] <will075> Alguien conoce una, forma concreta de  dual boot con Windows 10..instale el 16.04.4 pero al instalar el grub2 se queda colgado.. Probé con varios instaladores y tb con la, versión 17.01
[19:50] <tgm4883> !es | will075
[19:51] <will075> Gris!
[19:53] <arooni> how do i search for package version of a given package
[19:53] <nacc> arooni: you mean what versions are available?
[19:54] <nacc> arooni: apt-cache policy <pkgname>
[19:54] <arooni> nacc: sure; as well as most recent version
[19:54] <nacc> arooni: well, you can't easily see the older packages, the policy output shows you roughly what apt sees
[19:55] <arooni> nacc: thats a very useful command
[19:55] <nacc> arooni: yes it is :) `apt` has integrated into that command as well
[19:55] <arooni> nacc: didnt know i could just run apt
[19:56] <arooni> easier for me to remember that
[19:56] <nacc> arooni: different command than apt-get
[19:56] <nacc> arooni: they are different commands, i mean
[19:56] <arooni> so i can run apt search ;; apt policy foo
[19:56] <arooni> but i still need apt-get to get new packages right
[19:56] <nacc> arooni: with the understanding they are different
[19:56] <nacc> arooni: no, you can use `apt` for that too
[19:56] <nacc> arooni: it's a differetn frontend to dpkg
[19:56] <arooni> why would i want to use apt-get or apt-cache as opposed to apt
[19:56] <arooni> ah ok
[19:56] <arooni> has ubuntu always been that way
[19:56] <arooni> or after a certain version
[19:56] <nacc> arooni: no, apt is newer
[19:56] <tgm4883> nacc: 'apt-cache madison <package>' shows it a bit easier if you're just looking for versions
[19:57] <nacc> tgm4883: ah nice
[19:57] <nacc> tgm4883: thanks!
[20:10] <qswz> geirha: https://stackoverflow.com/a/1584434/3183756 might work
[20:10] <newbie|2> hello
[20:10] <qswz> if I put those 2 lines in my script
[20:10] <arooni> is aptitude not a thing anymore
[20:11] <newbie|2> I need some help with the package manager.  I've tried to install KDE, but it failed and left me 3 depends that won't install.   I just want it to go away, but it will not.  any ideas ?
[20:13] <newbie|2> kdevelop : Depends: kdevelop-data (>= 4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2) but 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu1 is installed
[20:13] <newbie|2>             Depends: kdevplatform10-libs (>= 5.1.1) but it is not installed
[20:13] <newbie|2>             Depends: libclang1-3.8 (>= 3.8) but it is not installed
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> newbie|2  next time, use a pastebin ... https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:14] <albertoiNET> Hi
[20:15] <newbie|2> @MonkeyDust, It was rather small :)
[20:15] <albertoiNET> Hi Carll :) but your paste bin didn't work  :(
[20:17] <newbie|2> is there a command line to just fix those things or what ?
[20:17] <albertoiNET> Hi, any idea with this problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1010405/the-brightness-of-laptop-screen-cannot-be-adjusted-with-either-the-buttons-or-th/1010420#1010420
[20:17] <kostkon> newbie|2, the "~ppa2" part is a red flag
[20:17] <albertoiNET> I can't adjust de brightness level :( always 100%
[20:18] <newbie|2> kostkon: yeah, it was KDE, but I just want to do other things now and I'm being blocked by this.
[20:18] <kostkon> newbie|2, apt-cache policy kdevelop-data  do you want the version of kde from that PPA or the main repos
[20:19] <newbie|2> at this point I just want it to go away
[20:20] <Sorfrost> newbie|2, if they wont install, the package you're are trying to install won't function properly..
[20:20] <newbie|2> Sorfrost: that's okay, I just want it to go away, all of KDE is fine.
[20:22] <newbie|2> Sorfrost: removing all of KDE is fine, I want to use my apt-get for other stuff and I'm blocked right now.
[20:23] <Sorfrost> newbie|2, try this: edit /var/lib/dpkg/status,
[20:23] <Sorfrost> find the package with the broken dependencies
[20:23] <Sorfrost> , edit the Depends: line to stop the package complaining.
[20:24] <tomreyn> Sorfrost: this is not a good recommendation but a good way to break apt
[20:24] <xevious> Is there a setting I can change (initramfs setting or kernel parameter, etc.) that disables suspend/resume? My systems are hanging for a while during boot: after they stop for a minute or so, they say "Gave up waiting for suspend/resume device" and continue booting.
[20:25] <Sorfrost> tomreyn, it might "break" apt only for that specific package. no?
[20:26] <tomreyn> Sorfrost: if you break the file format and dpkg will be unable to parse it then dpkg (and thus apt) will be broken entirely
[20:26] <tomreyn> there are better ways
[20:27] <Sorfrost> tomreyn, im sure about that, but he said he just wanted those unmet deps to go away... Sorry if i misanterstood
[20:31] <albertoiNET> Hi, somebody can help me with this issue:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1010405/the-brightness-of-laptop-screen-cannot-be-adjusted-with-either-the-buttons-or-th
[20:31] <EriC^> albertoiNET: did you try acpi_osi stuff?
[20:32] <albertoiNET> Yes I tried acpi_osi on /etc/default/grub and then sudo update-grub . Then reboot and I'm still the same problem. I cannot adjuts the brightnes of my laptop screen
[20:33] <albertoiNET> EriC^ :(
[20:33] <newbie|2> Sorfrost: thanks a lot, that seems to work.
[20:33] <akik> albertoiNET: there's also acpi_backlight
[20:33] <EriC^> albertoiNET: what did you try for acpi_osi?
[20:35] <izznogooood> How do i turn off dimming of inactive windows in gnome3!
[20:36] <izznogooood> 17.10
[20:36] <albertoiNET> EriC^ I tested acpi_osi=Linux
[20:37] <albertoiNET> akik Yes I also tested diferents values on acpi_backlight
[20:38] <akik> albertoiNET: you should use the value that you get from: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i "windows " | sort
[20:38] <akik> albertoiNET: that is for acpi_osi=
[20:39] <akik> albertoiNET: the latest "windows" version, i know they don't make sense
[20:44] <Sven_vB> I just uninstalled build-essential, but still have /usr/src/linux-headers-* directories. is it now safe to remove them?
[20:44] <albertoiNET> akik really? a windows version in acpi_osi?
[20:44] <akik> albertoiNET: yes
[20:45] <akik> albertoiNET: most laptops are not tested with linux in mind so it leads to this unfortunate config
[20:45] <albertoiNET> acpi_osi=Windows 2015" for exxample?
[20:45] <albertoiNET> acpi_osi="Windows 2015" for exxample?
[20:45] <akik> albertoiNET: if you put it to /etc/default/grub: acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"
[20:45] <albertoiNET> with \ or without
[20:46] <akik> albertoiNET: just as i wrote there
[20:46] <albertoiNET> ok, I'm going to try right now
[20:46] <albertoiNET> thanks
[20:46] <akik> then update-grub afterwards
[20:46] <dabblerdude_> Hello.
[20:47] <dabblerdude_> Can someone help me? I recently used the software updater to update my packages and now when I log in, I only have the background and cursor.
[20:47] <dabblerdude_> This is on Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS.
[20:48]  * Sven_vB remembers he can just ask dpkg which package still needs these dirs.
[20:48] <BenderRodriguez> what's the different between dist-upgrade, upgrade, and full-upgrade
[20:48] <BenderRodriguez> (apt)
[20:49] <pantera> upgrade upgrades packages you have installed from the repos
[20:49] <pantera> So like hexchat chrome etc
[20:49] <albertoiNET2> akik I tested this
[20:49] <albertoiNET2> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\" "
[20:50] <albertoiNET2> but didn't work :(
[20:50] <akik> albertoiNET2: you mean you can't adjust the brightness?
[20:50] <akik> albertoiNET2: try adding: acpi_backlight=vendor
[20:52] <albertoiNET2> Yes, I can't adjust the brigthness :(
[20:52] <albertoiNET2> so the line must to be this:
[20:52] <pantera> I'm not sure what the difference is between dist-upgrade and full-upgrade. I've only used dist-upgrade. Just from the name it would make me think that full upgrade would make it so I have gone from 17.10 to 18.4 but like I said I haven't looked it up yet. Let me do this now.
[20:52] <albertoiNET2> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\" acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:52] <akik> albertoiNET2: add also this before the first acpi_osi: acpi_osi=!
[20:53] <akik> albertoiNET2: looks good
[20:53] <albertoiNET2> so...
[20:53] <pantera> So I was wrong with my assumption: https://askubuntu.com/questions/770135/apt-full-upgrade-versus-apt-get-dist-upgrade
[20:54] <albertoiNET2> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\" acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:54] <albertoiNET2> I test this line akik?
[20:54] <akik> albertoiNET2: yes looks good
[20:57] <akik> albertoiNET2: on my 2011 acer laptop i needed to use acpi_osi=Linux for the backlight to work
[21:17] <ConsoleFx> When I try to install gvim, on Ubuntu 16 is shows many vim-<variants> .. which one would be a recommended installation?
[21:18] <ConsoleFx> It shows variants e.g. vim-gtk3 // vim-gnome // vim-athena // vim-gnome-py2 etc
[21:22] <vlt> ConsoleFx: On Ubuntu MATE I chose vim-gnome.
[21:25] <ConsoleFx> vlt, its a standard Ubuntu 16.04 (no mate though)
[21:25] <ConsoleFx> vlt, anyway let me go ahead with vim-gnome.. that seems like a better option
[21:27] <ConsoleFx> done. thanks!
[21:39] <markus_> i have ubuntu 16 on one partition and 3 other partition are mounted . now when i try to delete anything from those mounted ubuntu doesn't send the files to trash on deletion.
[21:40] <markus_> however, it shows the warning that file will be permanently deleted before deletion
[21:40] <markus_> how can i make ubuntu to delete files to trash whenever i delete files from those mounted partitions.
[21:41] <UserUS> makrus_: they are permanently deleted, they don't go to trash
[21:42] <markus_> userUS: yeah they dont
[21:43] <markus_> i want them to go to trash so that i can recover if i need to
[21:44] <UserUS> markus_: what are you mounting?
[21:44] <UserUS> markus_: other drive partitions on the same drive as your os with a dual boot or something along those lines?
[21:45] <markus_>  other drive partitions on the same drive. these mounted partition are ntfs
[21:46] <markus_> userUS: no dual boot
[21:48] <TJ-> markus_: inside the user's home directory Trash is stored at $HOME/.local/share/Trash/, but on other file-systems it tries to create a /.Trash-$(id -u)/ directory in the root of that other file-system and use that. If it can't create that directory (permissions, etc.), or is configured not to do that, it will directly delete files
[21:48] <UserUS> markus_: okay so you using a live cd?
[21:48] <UserUS> or usb
[21:49] <markus_> userUS: ubuntu is installed on one ext4 partition
[21:50] <markus_> TJ-: so what can i do to get the desired result
[21:50] <UserUS> markus_: To my knowledge, the only way to do what you'd like is to copy the files to your desktop, save them somewhere (doesnt mantter where) then delete from the NTFS
[21:51] <UserUS> markus_: Then you can control what is moved to the trash in your linux partition
[21:51] <TJ-> markus_: It depends if the DE allows you to configure it; I work with the command-line so the GUI can't interfere with such things
[21:52] <markus_> userUS: sorry, but this solution doesn't sound good to me.
[21:53] <TJ-> markus_: you might be able to find a setting using "grep -rni trash ~/.config/"
[21:54] <UserUS> markus_: Unfortunetly, you cannot change a permeant deletion to location to my knowledge. Sorry I couldn't help, hope you find your solution.
[21:55] <markus_> running "grep -rni trash ~/.config/" spits out a lot of text. and i cant understand anything from it
[22:01] <tomreyn> on my xfce there is ~/.config/Thunar/accels.scm where there is ThunarStandardView/move-to-trash
[22:18] <Hell-Razor> Hey fellas, how can I get python 3.6 as my default instead of 2.7?
[22:19] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: that seems like a bad idea, are you writing python scripts?
[22:19] <Hell-Razor> tgm4883, How is it a bad idea? And yes
[22:20] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: well any scripts on the system written for python 2 and not compatible with python 3 would fail. For your scripts, you could point to python3 in your intpreter line
[22:20] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: you'll certainly raise hell if you do :D many system scripts rely on python 2.x being the default
[22:20] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: a la "#!/usr/bin/env python3"
[22:21] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: IMHO, that's the correct way to do it
[22:21] <Hell-Razor> Eh, I am sure theres a way to force ubuntu to use 3
[22:21] <Jordan_U> Hell-Razor: Don't.
[22:21] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: there is, I'm not sure I want to help you break your system though
[22:21] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: why not just set your scripts to use 3?
[22:21] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: there is, but it'll severely break many things, including possibly apt tooling
[22:23] <Hell-Razor> tgm4883, Thats like using kernel version 2.7... Super obsolete
[22:23] <Hell-Razor> Python 2.7 was released in 2010
[22:24] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: Well the reason that 2 is still default is because switching to 3 breaks things
[22:24] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: it depends on which Ubuntu release you're using. We've had a many-years transition plan to get to a default python3, which will happen with Ubuntu 18.04
[22:25] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: at which point python2.7 will move from the 'main' component to 'universe'
[22:25] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: I'm still not entirely sure why you're resistant to forcing your scripts to use python3
[22:25] <kostkon> Hell-Razor, you probably haven't realised how much is python based in ubuntu/linux and a version mixup will definitely create problems
[22:25] <Hell-Razor> Because 3.x is stable and I dont like being almost a decade behind?
[22:25] <Hell-Razor> Yeah I understand that.
[22:25] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: if your scripts are python3 specific they should force use of the python3 interpreter.
[22:26] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: that ensure they won't break no matter what the default interpreter happens to be on any system
[22:26] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: maybe this will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python
[22:26] <Hell-Razor> I dont htink you guys understand what I am saying
[22:26] <MWM> Any KVM users in here?  I am evperiencing this issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/930491/group-libvirtd-does-not-exist-while-installing-qemu-kvm
[22:26] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: you're not a decade behind. Python 2.7.14 was released in Sept 2017
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Hell-Razor: You can just remove python2 (and everything that depends on it). Then you'll know that everything on your system is using python 3. Also note that python3 is actively maintained and kept secure.
[22:27] <Hell-Razor> 2.7.0 was released in 2010
[22:27] <MWM> since the accepted answer only has on vote and the next answer seems valid also, I was hoping for more opinions
[22:27] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: this gives an overview of how complicated the transition to python3 has been https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3
[22:27] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2714/
[22:27] <tgm4883> Release Date: 2017-09-16
[22:27] <Jordan_U> s/python3 is actively maintained/python2 is actively maintained/
[22:27] <Hell-Razor> https://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/
[22:28] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: so?
[22:28] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: If you are using a version of Ubuntu that has Python 2.7.0, then you are way out of support
[22:28] <TJ-> Hell-Razor: if you want to change the default use update-alternatives
[22:28] <Hell-Razor> tgm4883, Nevermind, you guys are missing the point lol
[22:28] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: 2.7.0 != 2.7.14  (or even 2.7.5, which is in trusty)
[22:29] <tgm4883> Hell-Razor: no, I think you're missing the point. The 2.7.x branch is supported
[22:30] <Hell-Razor> tgm4883, Its still obsolete
[22:31] <nacc> Hell-Razor: how are you defining 'obsolete'?
[22:31] <tgm4883> obsolete - no longer produced or used; out of date.
[22:31] <tgm4883> I'm pretty sure that releasing a new version means it's not obsolete
[22:31] <MWM> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
[22:31] <nacc> Hell-Razor: do you mean 'old'?
[22:32] <Hell-Razor> Yes "old"
[22:32] <nacc> Hell-Razor: well, it's not. It came out last year (2.7.14)
[22:32] <nacc> Hell-Razor: and old is definitely not obsolete
[22:33] <Hell-Razor> When you look at which python is used in the linux world, 2.7 is obsolete
[22:34] <nacc> Hell-Razor: i don't know what you are basing that off of, but it's thew rong word and false
[22:34] <nacc> Hell-Razor: none of this is ubuntu support discussion, though
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Hell-Razor: Run "sudo apt remove python2-minimal" but do *not* allow it to actually remove it. Note all of the packages that it will try to uninstall as they depend on python 2.
[22:36] <Jordan_U> Hell-Razor: ( The package should actually be "python2.7-minimal")
[22:36] <MWM> from some light reading, I do not beleive that python3 is as widely used as python 2.7.x ?
[22:37] <Hell-Razor> Ill continue this conversation when I am back at work Monday, have a good weekend
[22:40] <nacc> MWM: fully depends on the context
[22:40] <MWM> got my issue with KVM figured out.  Old instructions are ... old :D https://askubuntu.com/questions/969385/kvm-installation-on-ubuntu-17-10
[22:41] <MWM> it would be cool if a guy didnt have to start googling when using the official instructions, but I cant say I had to dig too far.
[22:50] <hfp> Hello, gnome-shell is randomly using 70-80% CPU for no reason and the only cure is to reboot. This is driving me nuts, how do I fix it? It's happening right now so I can provide debug info (I don't know how to reproduce, just happens at random once in a while). Using Ubuntu 17.10
[22:51] <robairt> this is probably not helpful, but I had the same thing happen after I installed chromeremote desktop. Turned out the remotedesktop was running even when nothing was connected and it was running screensavers that were using up all my resources
[22:59] <hfp> thanks, I don't use chrome or the remote desktop
[23:01] <hfp> alternatively, can I get rid of gnome-shell?
[23:01] <kk4ewt> yes you install another DESKTOP
[23:02] <kk4ewt> otherwise in gnome no you cannot get rid of gnome-shell
[23:03] <OerHeks> hfp, if that seems to happen again: open terminal: top # and see wat processes or zombies take up cpu time
[23:16] <hfp> OerHeks: top process is /usr/bin/gnome-shell using 30-80% CPU. The next process is using 2-3%.
[23:23] <backfat> hello.
[23:25] <kostkon> backfat, hi
[23:26] <OerHeks> hfp, you could check your syslog, (https://askubuntu.com/questions/789385/software-and-updater-consumes-100-cpu-in-ubuntu-16-04)or update processes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1716579
[23:26] <terminalator> How does one output the current volume level in the terminal?
[23:26] <OerHeks> alsamixer does that realtime
[23:27] <terminalator> I'm using pulseaudio though
[23:27] <kostkon> terminalator, pacmd --help
[23:28] <terminalator> I'm running i3wm in comnination with xubuntu, I'd like to set up a notification with notify-send when increasing/decreasing the volume
[23:29] <meteorx> :)
[23:29] <hfp> OerHeks: yes that looks like it. There is no solution though and I'm not sure where to go from there?
[23:30] <hfp> OerHeks: no wait this is for gnome-software, mine is gnome-shell
[23:31] <OerHeks> oke, then the syslog would still be intresting
[23:32] <terminalator> kostkon: I see
[23:34] <hfp> I'm going through it now, I don't see anything standing out related to gnome-shell. I also ran a search for CRITICAL and nothing cam eup
[23:37] <OerHeks> maybe critical is good, fail is bad
[23:39] <OerHeks> those guides should mention /var/log/syslog.1 log for the previous one
[23:40] <hfp> yes, I checked both, I only get warnings for gnome-shell which seem to be benign
[23:42] <xanrevent> Hey all. I'm compiling a program (cryptlib) and I need to specify that it should compile as 32 bit. The command I'm using is sudo make shared. I've tried googling to no avail.
[23:43] <TurboWafflz> test
[23:43] <nacc> xanrevent: you might want to ask cryptlib folks (it's typically a compiler flag, like -m32, which may or may not be controlled by a Makefile variable
[23:44] <nacc> xanrevent: you definitely should not be inovking make as root though
[23:44] <nacc> xanrevent: and more than likely the simplest thing to do is setup a 32-bit env and just build there
[23:44] <xanrevent> nacc: any idea where to find those? I can't find an irc for them or any specific forums.
[23:44] <xanrevent> nacc: either that, or I've misidentified the source of my problem, because I'm in a 32-bit environment
[23:45] <nacc> xanrevent: no idea; if you're on 32-bit then it'd be building 32-bit (unless you've setup a 64-bit cross compiler)
[23:45] <nacc> xanrevent: a) don't use sudo build things; b) pastebin the output
[23:46] <xanrevent> nacc: I install a program (mysticbbs) and it functions fine until I compile cryptlib, then I get a runtime error.
[23:46] <nacc> xanrevent: compiling some other program makes an installed program fail?
[23:46] <xanrevent> nacc: and I have no idea how to debug, but I don't get the same problem running the 64bit install on a 64bit system
[23:46] <xanrevent> nacc: yep
[23:46] <nacc> xanrevent: i feel like you're missing some salient points as that makes no sense :)
[23:46] <ariel_> Hola alguien que hable español?
[23:46] <nacc> xanrevent: compiling a program doesn't change the state of your system (generally)
[23:46] <nacc> !es | ariel_
[23:46] <ariel_> soy de México
[23:47] <ariel_> gracias...thanks
[23:47] <pengwens> hey folks - can anyone help me out with enabling pae?  I just installed 4Gb of RAM into a 32-bit computer, and although the BIOS can see all 4Gb, the linux kernel only sees 3Gb
[23:47] <xanrevent> nacc: the program is set up to try to identify is ssh is enabled in the configuration and uses the cryptlib files to operate
[23:47] <kostkon> pengwens, should be on by default
[23:47] <xanrevent> nacc: so far as I can figure
[23:48] <OerHeks> pengwens, that could be normal, if onboard GPU snoops memory
[23:48] <nacc> xanrevent: that's fine, but compiling a program doesn't change your system at all, so it's something else, presuambly
[23:49] <xanrevent> nacc: all I know is the program runs, then I "make shared" in cryptlib, and crash-bang-boom
[23:49] <nacc> xanrevent: yeah something else seems off if that's the case (e.g., it's using . in your PATH)
[23:49] <pengwens> Here's what I know to look at for my memory: https://pastebin.com/wmGrCTqe
[23:49] <xanrevent> I'm replicating it on a virtualbox right now to triple-check
[23:50] <nacc> xanrevent: i really don't know, i'd ask those upstream comunities, though, it doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue in and of itself
[23:50] <xanrevent> nacc: I appreciate the help anyways :)
[23:50] <pengwens> I don't have the pae enabled kernel: 4.13.0-36-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 16 20:06:51 UTC 2018 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:51] <kostkon> pengwens, default kernel is pae enabled
[23:52] <kostkon> pengwens, is this a laptop?
[23:52] <pengwens> kostkon: yeah - that's consistent with what's written here (12.10 and onwards) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE/Enabling
[23:52] <pengwens> kostkon: no, it's a desktop
[23:52] <kostkon> pengwens, what about the graphics card
[23:54] <Tezcatlipoca> Hi, all. I'm trying to install a program from the early 2000s on a Ubuntu Server instance.  It says just to untar it and type make, but my makes fail and there's no configure file.
[23:54] <Tezcatlipoca>  It's not apparent to me from the error what to do. And I don't have much experience, anybody have any leads for what I should try next?
[23:54] <pengwens> kostkon: does a "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator" make sense?  That comes from dmidecode -t 10
[23:55] <pengwens> Tezcatlipoca: you need to make sure you type make from the correct directory where you unpackaged the program you are trying to install
[23:55] <kostkon> pengwens, so maybe 1GB is shared with the graphics card and it is therefore unavailable to the rest of the system?
[23:56] <Tezcatlipoca> @pengwens, yeah it is the right directory it just gives a bunch of warnings as it tries and then fails with error 1
[23:56] <kostkon> pengwens, you could probably go into your bios and check how much ram is your graphics card set to use
[23:57] <pengwens> Tezcatlipoca: can you paste the warnings into pastebin?  you may need to install the appropriate compilers
[23:57] <pengwens> kostkon: that's not a bad idea - brb
[23:57] <kostkon> Tezcatlipoca, you'd have to pastebin the output if you were to have a chance of getting some kind of support here