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bluesabreochosi: looks good to me, reached out to -release for approval00:10
bluesabreflocculant: updated the draft on wp04:51
bluesabreknome: flocculant and I have an article we've been working on, if you want to take a look and give feedback, it's the "Testing for Xubuntu" one04:52
bluesabreUnit193: https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/software-properties/more-restart/+merge/34054304:56
Unit193\o/04:58
flocculantbluesabre: thanks - sad to say goodbye to the software fairies but not surprised :p06:54
Unit193bluesabre: ...Guess who just ran into that numlockx issue at a reeeeeeally bad time? :P07:22
flocculantUnit193: there's an issue with numlockx ?09:09
Unit193No09:09
flocculantoh good :p09:10
Unit193Now if it's not installed, lightdm doesn't start.09:10
flocculantoh dear - that's a bit nice then09:11
Unit193I knew this, but that switchover happened, didn't do somethign to fix the next boot, was messing with graphics drivers so thought it might be that when really just numlockx. :P09:13
ochosiwow, is numlockx now a hard dependency of lightdm?09:14
Unit193Of x-d-s, basically.  He's got a script to bail nicely.09:15
flocculantochosi: just allowed your post to our dev list from gmail - added it to accept filter too09:16
ochosiflocculant: ah crap, yeah, identities and gmail... i sometimes forget to switch when sending to MLs09:16
flocculant:)09:16
flocculantalso allowed jbicha09:18
flocculantbluesabre: supposedly grub thing is fix comm - can't find it in -proposed yet though09:20
bluesabreochosi: yeah, fixes ready, waiting for thunar-print to release12:13
flocculantmorning bluesabre :)12:24
bluesabremorning flocculant 12:24
flocculantbluesabre: fixed stupid grub locally if it's annoying you, find the only --append in /etc/grub.d/00_header and lose it, then update grub12:25
flocculantbluesabre: if we don't hear from knome re the blog post - I really want it out before early next week12:26
bluesabreflocculant: definitely12:26
bluesabreochosi: you're also welcome to review it12:26
flocculanthave a good day12:30
bluesabreyou too flocculant 12:31
bluesabrehttps://wiki.bluesabre.org/bionic_changes refreshed12:33
ochosiUnit193: were there any other changes in thunar-print or can we go ahead and merge? i can drop the test -x, didnt know command covered that (the docs dont mention that)13:15
ochosibluesabre: re: tiling shortcuts, i think its either or, we cant bind two shortcuts in xfwm4, that only works with regular commands13:16
bluesabreochosi: that's fine, the arrow keys are more discoverable13:19
ochosiyup13:19
ochosifeel free to merge then13:20
ochosiwrt the display settings work i did, i can explain the changes to you13:20
ochosibut the commit should be well cpmmented13:20
ochosianyway no rush, thats a bugfix anyway13:21
bluesabresure thing13:25
flocculantbluesabre: added a link at Anything else, you’ve found a regression. to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Reporting_non-crash_hardware_and_desktop_application_bugs13:59
flocculantoff again for a while - back this evening I expect13:59
bluesabrethanks flocculant 14:01
flocculantnp :)14:02
knomeflocculant, bluesabre: the article looks good to me20:57
flocculantknome: ta21:10
flocculantbluesabre: if you're happy with it then publish it, I'm good with it21:10
Unit193ochosi: I think we're good.21:19
flocculanthi Unit193  - see your guy is testing core again :)21:20
flocculantcouldn't confirm the fail though21:20
Unit193Oooh, that's to the list not me.  I see.21:20
flocculantUnit193: you want core on the tracker again - I can do it easily - then I can post to list and tell him21:21
Unit193So yes, going to directly install rather than desktop then install has been questionable in the past.21:22
flocculantworked ok for me in kvm at least21:22
Unit193flocculant: Well it never really saw stuff, pretty much just me, him, you and slick anyway.21:22
flocculantwell makes it easier to track I suppose21:23
flocculantso I added it :D21:23
Unit193OK, works for me.21:23
flocculantdo we want the tasksel stuff still?21:24
Unit193Well that's how one would officially install without these ISOs.21:25
flocculantk - I'll leave that alone then21:25
flocculantthough I think the testcases could do with some love - I'm guessing you'd want the mini.iso for those?21:26
Unit193Yeah.21:27
flocculantsent reply to them on list 21:30
ochosiUnit193: mkay, cool. then please don't forget to approve the MR21:34
flocculantbluesabre: parole is on here https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/linux-release-roundup-corebird21:37
flocculantnigth all21:38
bluesabreflocculant: that's a pleasant surprise21:57
ochosibluesabre: as Unit193 approved the MR in here (for thunar-print) i guess it's ok to approve on LP and merge21:58
bluesabreochosi: great, will do tonight21:58
ochosiholy crap21:58
ochosidid you know the murrine engine doesnt support the "inconsistent" state of checkbuttons in gtk2?21:58
bluesabreI did not21:59
Unit193ochosi: I'm getting there, I'm getting there. :P21:59
ochosisorry sorry :)21:59
ochosibluesabre: i'm considering to make the checkbuttons in Gtk2 look like Gtk3 (with pixbuf) and implement the inconsistent state22:00
ochosiwhich would have two nice side-effects22:00
ochosi1) the checkbuttons would look the same everywhere22:00
ochosi2) the xfce4-display stuff i did will look and work ok22:00
bluesabreochosi: I have no complaints about that22:03
ochosialrighty, i'll get it done before UIF22:03
bluesabreMarch 22 :)22:05
ochosieasy :)22:06
bluesabreeasy is good22:10
bluesabreUnit193: so, ubiquity is using tasksel for the mini option on ubuntu?22:12
Unit193...What?22:12
bluesabrefor the minimal install option on the main ubuntu iso?22:13
bluesabreor to tweak my question, can we do that and do we want to?22:14
Unit193mini.iso uses debian-installer last I knew, gives a prompt for what you want.22:14
bluesabre(this thing) https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-18-04-minimal-install-option22:15
Unit193Didn't know about that, but doesn't look like something to invest time in if it's only for 18.0422:18
bluesabreyeah, was just curious22:18
Unit193Yes, does sound nice.22:21

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