[00:10] <bluesabre> ochosi: looks good to me, reached out to -release for approval
[04:51] <bluesabre> flocculant: updated the draft on wp
[04:52] <bluesabre> knome: flocculant and I have an article we've been working on, if you want to take a look and give feedback, it's the "Testing for Xubuntu" one
[04:56] <bluesabre> Unit193: https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/software-properties/more-restart/+merge/340543
[04:58] <Unit193> \o/
[06:54] <flocculant> bluesabre: thanks - sad to say goodbye to the software fairies but not surprised :p
[07:22] <Unit193> bluesabre: ...Guess who just ran into that numlockx issue at a reeeeeeally bad time? :P
[09:09] <flocculant> Unit193: there's an issue with numlockx ?
[09:09] <Unit193> No
[09:10] <flocculant> oh good :p
[09:10] <Unit193> Now if it's not installed, lightdm doesn't start.
[09:11] <flocculant> oh dear - that's a bit nice then
[09:13] <Unit193> I knew this, but that switchover happened, didn't do somethign to fix the next boot, was messing with graphics drivers so thought it might be that when really just numlockx. :P
[09:14] <ochosi> wow, is numlockx now a hard dependency of lightdm?
[09:15] <Unit193> Of x-d-s, basically.  He's got a script to bail nicely.
[09:16] <flocculant> ochosi: just allowed your post to our dev list from gmail - added it to accept filter too
[09:16] <ochosi> flocculant: ah crap, yeah, identities and gmail... i sometimes forget to switch when sending to MLs
[09:16] <flocculant> :)
[09:18] <flocculant> also allowed jbicha
[09:20] <flocculant> bluesabre: supposedly grub thing is fix comm - can't find it in -proposed yet though
[12:13] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah, fixes ready, waiting for thunar-print to release
[12:24] <flocculant> morning bluesabre :)
[12:24] <bluesabre> morning flocculant 
[12:25] <flocculant> bluesabre: fixed stupid grub locally if it's annoying you, find the only --append in /etc/grub.d/00_header and lose it, then update grub
[12:26] <flocculant> bluesabre: if we don't hear from knome re the blog post - I really want it out before early next week
[12:26] <bluesabre> flocculant: definitely
[12:26] <bluesabre> ochosi: you're also welcome to review it
[12:30] <flocculant> have a good day
[12:31] <bluesabre> you too flocculant 
[12:33] <bluesabre> https://wiki.bluesabre.org/bionic_changes refreshed
[13:15] <ochosi> Unit193: were there any other changes in thunar-print or can we go ahead and merge? i can drop the test -x, didnt know command covered that (the docs dont mention that)
[13:16] <ochosi> bluesabre: re: tiling shortcuts, i think its either or, we cant bind two shortcuts in xfwm4, that only works with regular commands
[13:19] <bluesabre> ochosi: that's fine, the arrow keys are more discoverable
[13:19] <ochosi> yup
[13:20] <ochosi> feel free to merge then
[13:20] <ochosi> wrt the display settings work i did, i can explain the changes to you
[13:20] <ochosi> but the commit should be well cpmmented
[13:21] <ochosi> anyway no rush, thats a bugfix anyway
[13:25] <bluesabre> sure thing
[13:59] <flocculant> bluesabre: added a link at Anything else, you’ve found a regression. to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Reporting_non-crash_hardware_and_desktop_application_bugs
[13:59] <flocculant> off again for a while - back this evening I expect
[14:01] <bluesabre> thanks flocculant 
[14:02] <flocculant> np :)
[20:57] <knome> flocculant, bluesabre: the article looks good to me
[21:10] <flocculant> knome: ta
[21:10] <flocculant> bluesabre: if you're happy with it then publish it, I'm good with it
[21:19] <Unit193> ochosi: I think we're good.
[21:20] <flocculant> hi Unit193  - see your guy is testing core again :)
[21:20] <flocculant> couldn't confirm the fail though
[21:20] <Unit193> Oooh, that's to the list not me.  I see.
[21:21] <flocculant> Unit193: you want core on the tracker again - I can do it easily - then I can post to list and tell him
[21:22] <Unit193> So yes, going to directly install rather than desktop then install has been questionable in the past.
[21:22] <flocculant> worked ok for me in kvm at least
[21:22] <Unit193> flocculant: Well it never really saw stuff, pretty much just me, him, you and slick anyway.
[21:23] <flocculant> well makes it easier to track I suppose
[21:23] <flocculant> so I added it :D
[21:23] <Unit193> OK, works for me.
[21:24] <flocculant> do we want the tasksel stuff still?
[21:25] <Unit193> Well that's how one would officially install without these ISOs.
[21:25] <flocculant> k - I'll leave that alone then
[21:26] <flocculant> though I think the testcases could do with some love - I'm guessing you'd want the mini.iso for those?
[21:27] <Unit193> Yeah.
[21:30] <flocculant> sent reply to them on list 
[21:34] <ochosi> Unit193: mkay, cool. then please don't forget to approve the MR
[21:37] <flocculant> bluesabre: parole is on here https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/linux-release-roundup-corebird
[21:38] <flocculant> nigth all
[21:57] <bluesabre> flocculant: that's a pleasant surprise
[21:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: as Unit193 approved the MR in here (for thunar-print) i guess it's ok to approve on LP and merge
[21:58] <bluesabre> ochosi: great, will do tonight
[21:58] <ochosi> holy crap
[21:58] <ochosi> did you know the murrine engine doesnt support the "inconsistent" state of checkbuttons in gtk2?
[21:59] <bluesabre> I did not
[21:59] <Unit193> ochosi: I'm getting there, I'm getting there. :P
[21:59] <ochosi> sorry sorry :)
[22:00] <ochosi> bluesabre: i'm considering to make the checkbuttons in Gtk2 look like Gtk3 (with pixbuf) and implement the inconsistent state
[22:00] <ochosi> which would have two nice side-effects
[22:00] <ochosi> 1) the checkbuttons would look the same everywhere
[22:00] <ochosi> 2) the xfce4-display stuff i did will look and work ok
[22:03] <bluesabre> ochosi: I have no complaints about that
[22:03] <ochosi> alrighty, i'll get it done before UIF
[22:05] <bluesabre> March 22 :)
[22:06] <ochosi> easy :)
[22:10] <bluesabre> easy is good
[22:12] <bluesabre> Unit193: so, ubiquity is using tasksel for the mini option on ubuntu?
[22:12] <Unit193> ...What?
[22:13] <bluesabre> for the minimal install option on the main ubuntu iso?
[22:14] <bluesabre> or to tweak my question, can we do that and do we want to?
[22:14] <Unit193> mini.iso uses debian-installer last I knew, gives a prompt for what you want.
[22:15] <bluesabre> (this thing) https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-18-04-minimal-install-option
[22:18] <Unit193> Didn't know about that, but doesn't look like something to invest time in if it's only for 18.04
[22:18] <bluesabre> yeah, was just curious
[22:21] <Unit193> Yes, does sound nice.