[00:00] <ikonia> what makes you think the build failed ?
[00:00] <ikonia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FrjRh7xdSS/
[00:00] <ikonia> from that paste
[00:02] <JoopSoop> That's the wrong one that had only half the output. Here it is when I caught all the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ndczCkDfYt/
[00:02] <JoopSoop> Did I post the same one twice by mistake?
[00:03] <ikonia> so if you look at the error, it's basically saying it's referencing something that doesn't exist
[00:05] <JoopSoop> @ikonia, the "hd_exe_section_is_code" of it?  I am sorry I am a novice.  I couldn't pick out what is significant within this and there is no documentation. the readme says just "type make"
[00:05] <ikonia> JoopSoop: so we can't support this software for you
[00:05] <JoopSoop> I thought this was the place to ask such questions
[00:06] <ikonia> JoopSoop: the guy who maintains it is the guy to help you, if he no longer maintains it and it's unmaintained, you're pretty much screwed
[00:06] <ikonia> JoopSoop: this is ubuntu support - not 3rd party software build support that is out of support
[00:09] <OerHeks> if you would get the source from our repo's. i guess it works..
[00:10] <ikonia> OerHeks: is it in the repos ?
[00:10] <ikonia> I don't see it
[00:11] <JoopSoop_> @ikonia  That's disappointing. I'll look for a community that with a broader goal to help solve each others linux/ubuntu problems.
[00:11] <JoopSoop_> thanks for looking
[00:11] <ikonia> JoopSoop_: sounds a good move
[00:12] <OerHeks> for artful https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdisasm/0.23-6
[00:12] <ikonia> thats the library
[00:13] <ikonia> not the thing he's actually building
[00:13] <ikonia> looking at the source the bit you see on the screen is the binding to libdisam
[00:26] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om, hey i am finally back on and i used super disk to get into ubuntu but i don't know how to undo the changes that got install so that ubuntu can be seen as a choose during booting process. i am now in ubuntu the one that crashed during the update
[00:27] <neox> hi
[00:28] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: - think'n
[00:29] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om, is their an command i can run to purge all the previous stuff that was being installed while it crashed. also i tried to run update grub and it crashes when it says its loading grubia32 or something like that
[00:31] <komnmk456> hi
[00:33] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: What is the real issue that you are facing presently ?
[00:35] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om, i can't boot into ubuntu b/c it crashed while it was doing an apt-install update = like when u just tell it to normally update stuff that the system needs to update periodically. so now i don't have the option to boot into ubuntu but i download superdisk2 and was able to have it on a live cd and i can find the ubuntu and boot it but only with the superdisk2. so i want to be able to boot back into it without superdisk2
[00:36] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om, so i just took a look at this real quick: https://journalxtra.com/linux/desktop-recovery/fix-ubuntu-16-10-upgrade-boot-failure/ but the thing is my system didn't crash during an update
[00:37] <ghostnik11> they said i can run a dpkg –configure -a and that will undo maybe the changes? Bashing-om i don't know but what do u think
[00:38] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: K; remind me, is this an EFI booting system ?
[00:44] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om, yeah the bootloader uses windows like mbr first i think then i get the grub option of ubuntu? like i don't see it anymore when i press esc key to see if i can boot with ubuntu. well b/4 i had 3 options: 2 options for ubuntu and 1 for android x86. but now i only have one option for ubuntu and 1 for android but when i click ubuntu it seems to just bring me to android so i think its not connected properly
[00:47] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: Uh huh - sounds like the ubuntu link is broken . but I have no EFI experience - off hand I do not know how to repair it .
[00:48] <ghostnik11> Bashing-om, do you know any site i can go to to read up on how to fix and efi link to let me get to grub?
[00:49] <songden> hello
[00:49] <songden> how to install spss v20 in ubuntu?
[00:49] <ikonia> what is spss ?
[00:49] <huntington> 123
[00:49] <kostkon> ikonia, statistical software
[00:49] <songden> app for statistic
[00:50] <Bashing-om> ghostnik11: Sorry, again EFI is not on my field of interest - hang loose here and see if others here will pick you up .
[00:50] <ikonia> is it open source ?
[00:50] <ikonia> (I've never heard of it)
[00:50] <songden> it's own IBM
[00:50] <ikonia> so wouldn't IBM have install instructions for ubuntu ?
[00:51] <kostkon> ikonia, no, but it's industry standard like matlab for example
[00:51] <songden> but i need to install
[00:51] <ikonia> kostkon: right, I get the idea, good reference example
[00:51] <ikonia> songden: so if it's IBM software, ask them how to install it
[00:53] <songden> did you know about other software can use present in statistic?
[00:53] <ikonia> not personally no
[00:54] <songden> ok
[01:08] <hfp> Howie69: I think I like xfce4, it's pretty light and super configurable.
[01:08] <Alabaster> Test
[01:09] <Alabaster> first time on IRC in a very long time
[01:09] <Alabaster> can anyone hear me.. heh
[01:09] <Bashing-om> Alabaster: I read you .
[01:10] <Alabaster> awesome... I am so out the loop
[01:10] <Alabaster> I forgot my old friend. IRC. I wonder how humanity has been these last years
[01:10] <ghostnik11> hey so i need help fixing and efi so that it recognizes the ubuntu partition and i can get back into ubuntu. i have looked up at these steps and want to know if this will help me: https://superuser.com/questions/376470/how-to-reinstall-grub2-efi
[01:10] <Alabaster> So I guess this just means there are not a lot of people really actually in the room
[01:11] <hfp> Alabaster: hmmmm I see 1500 people in the room
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Alabaster: irc is still here .. and still supported . speaking of support, you are in a support channel, not a "chat" room .
[01:11] <Alabaster> Do people still give a hand to noobs this day anymore. I'm pulling my hair out
[01:12] <hfp> Alabaster: that's what this channel is for. Ask away and if someone can help they'll answer
[01:12] <electricmilk> Nothing wrong with helping newbs
[01:12] <electricmilk> We are all newbs to one topic or another
[01:12] <Alabaster> well I don't want to bother anyone. But yeah. New to Linux again for about ... well decade
[01:13] <electricmilk> Now when someone comes in a channel with NO etiquette. That is frustrating
[01:13] <Alabaster> Thanks guys. Sounds like oldschool IRC
[01:13] <Alabaster> yeah I can assume
[01:14] <electricmilk> You have to laugh when someone comes in going "HELP ME!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY ISN"T ANYONE HELPING ME"  But doesn't post a question...and then leaves
[01:14] <electricmilk> lol
[01:14] <Alabaster> heh
[01:14] <Alabaster> yeah lol
[01:15] <hoho> root@alu:/var/log# lspci -nn | grep -E 'VGA|Display' 09:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Vega [Radeon Vega 8 Mobile] [1002:15dd] (rev c6)
[01:15] <hoho> any idea how to get that sucker running?  text mode only (sshd, can't even get local console.)
[01:15] <Alabaster> I just installed Ubuntu as a VM and installed gnome 3 as my GUI Shell
[01:16] <Alabaster> first stupid question will I break anything or loose permissions if I had changed the user name without the file in the /host folder
[01:17] <Alabaster> I turned it from linux@vmblahblahc~vmblah to Me@me
[01:19] <hoho> @Alabaster how did you changed the user name?
[01:20] <Alabaster> ehhhhh forgot the googling I did... ehhhh
[01:20] <Kcherman> 1
[01:20] <Alabaster> i mean if I list my home folder in the terminal everything shows up
[01:21] <Alabaster> I honestly don't remember the simple lines I put in, I just don't simply remember the basics
[01:21] <hoho> @Alabaster: usermod just changes the name, home directory stays the same unless you give it -d argument to change the home at the same time. so should be fine if you did it that way.
[01:22] <Alabaster> I do believe I did usermod -something
[01:22] <hoho> @Alabaster, sounds like it's fine then.
[01:22] <Alabaster> yeah its' just /home/linux still
[01:23] <hoho> amybody know about Ryzen support?  I got a new 2400G, and ssh works great ;-)
[01:23] <Alabaster> do I need anything after my username@hostname like the "~host" at the end I believe it is
[01:23] <ghostnik11> so it seems that my efi boot on hdd is not there
[01:24] <Alabaster> like is me@me fine?
[01:24] <hoho> @Alabaster ''do I need anything" ... what for?  what are you trying to do?
[01:24] <Alabaster> or do I need to have me@me~me
[01:25] <Alabaster> well after installing everything I want to learn how linux works in relation to the open world (Global) communication to others and devices. Learn networking through linux and the like
[01:26] <Alabaster> first off I tried something as odd sounding as the "write" command with two terminals open and not a damn thing happened
[01:27] <hoho> @Alabaster:  not specific enough.  What command are you feeding me@me~me to?  What specific action are you hoping to accomplish?
[01:28] <Alabaster> im just making sure me@me is fine and that I will be able to be found when talking, remoting and learning with others network speaking
[01:29] <Alabaster> now you see how much a noob I am referring to myself as I assume
[01:29] <Alabaster> ok all I know is me = username and @me = hostname correct?
[01:29] <bazhang> Alabaster, what is network speaking, and how is this specific to ubuntu support
[01:30] <hoho> @Alabaster me = username @ is a separator  me= hostname.
[01:30] <Alabaster> hoho yeah thats what I thought
[01:31] <Alabaster> hoho is it fine I have ~name at the end?
[01:31] <hoho> Anyone know how to get bleeding edge AMD drivers?  xorgs-edgers doesn't seem to be it anymore?
[01:31] <hoho> @Alabaster:  what is ~name for?
[01:32] <Alabaster> what is the ~(name) anyway.. for example me@me~someword
[01:33] <bazhang> Alabaster, did you have some ubuntu support related questions for the channel
[01:33] <hoho> @Alabaser: I think you're just looking at a shell prompt... it is telling you your username, your hostname, and the (last) directory you are in. It isn't somethng you use to communicate with others.
[01:33] <Alabaster> originally my vm setup my linux as linux@linux~virtualMachine I believe
[01:33] <Alabaster> ahhhhh
[01:34] <bazhang> Alabaster, what version of ubuntu is that
[01:34] <Alabaster> well I found the write command could communicate to others through command line
[01:34] <hoho> @Alabaster, you were logged into as user: linux on hostname linux, in /home/virtualMachine... most likely.
[01:34] <Alabaster> 16.04.04
[01:35] <Alabaster> it just updated a couple days ago I believe from .3
[01:35] <bazhang> Alabaster, and what is 'network speaking'
[01:35] <hoho> AMD drivers anyone?   Ryzen?
[01:36] <Alabaster> attempting to learn things for basic career needed knowledge
[01:36] <ghostnik11> can i repair efi boot with this command: dosfsck
[01:36] <Alabaster> like helping clients with software. Generally speaking per example a friend of mine should or as needed RDPd
[01:37] <bazhang> Alabaster, then you would need a general networking channel to assist you, unless you have some ubuntu related support issues
[01:37] <Alabaster> but just in the fun sense to begin with just talking to other people with the "write"command
[01:37] <ghostnik11> here is a my pastebin of fdisk: https://pastebin.com/JDMutft3
[01:38] <Alabaster> I'm just making sure first really I didn't screw up anything and my linux can be found or find others
[01:38] <Alabaster> but I see what your saying. I should find a basic linux channel or linux command chat
[01:39] <hfp> Alabaster: sounds like you need an online tutorial of sorts
[01:39] <bazhang> Alabaster, you were thinking about using 'write' in the terminal to chat with others over the internet?
[01:39] <Alabaster> So I will ask one last terribly dumb question... If anyone uses a Virtual Machine to run Linux where is the real IP address? The one I see in Windows IPconfig or in linux??
[01:40] <Alabaster> no I just wanted to test if it sent to another terminal as per the YT video I was watching
[01:40] <vistefan> Hi! How could I disable notification "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it." that appears when i close gnome-terminal? I want it to not appear even if I have running tasks.
[01:40] <bazhang> Alabaster, that's not even specific to linux
[01:40] <Alabaster> didn't happen
[01:41] <Alabaster> Yeah I know. I realize I should be in others learning or re-learning command lines
[01:42] <ghostnik11> is it normal for the start of your partition to say 0.00? because i ran the parted command and it says my start has 0.00
[01:42] <bazhang> Alabaster, try #bash , ##networking for such things
[01:42] <Alabaster> bazhang. Thanks.
[01:43] <Alabaster> Thanks everyone
[01:43] <hoho> @ghostnik11:  I usually put the first partition offset from 0, so I would start at 1049kB or something like that.  on a hard disk.
[01:44] <ghostnik11> hoho, i am trying to fix efi boot so i can boot to ubuntu and my system crashed during an update and now i can't get back into ubuntu so looked a parted command it shows where the partition is and that it has a gpt scheme but i don't know if its correct
[02:02] <ghostnik11> Hey so i need help b/c my system crashes when i run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:03] <ghostnik11> It shows setting up grub-efi-ia32 and then it freezes when it says installing for i386-efi platform
[02:10] <vistefan> Guys, could someone give me an answer? I asked but nobody replied.
[02:19] <tomreyn> vistefan: what did you ask again?
[02:19] <vistefan> tomreyn: Hi! How could I disable notification "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it." that appears when i close gnome-terminal? I want it to not appear even if I have running tasks.
[02:20] <tomreyn> oh hmm i've never run into this message, but i dont use gnome temrinal
[02:20] <tomreyn> let's see what a web search has to say on this
[02:21] <tomreyn> so "ps T" should show you the processes still running
[02:21] <tomreyn> vistefan: maybe you always have the same process still running there and this just needs to be fixed?
[02:22] <tomreyn> this is from https://askubuntu.com/questions/772350/how-to-find-still-running-processes-in-a-terminal
[02:23] <vistefan> No, no, that's not the trouble. This is more configuration question. I value this message a bit annoying. I use tmux so sometimes it is proper for me to close terminal where tmux is still running. Or e.g. I can use vim and save file, but i don't want to quit vim manually to close the terminal I just want to close whole window. So I want to disable this notification, because I know what i do.
[02:25] <tomreyn> i see. i guess vim wont be able to remove temp files then but if you're aware of that i guess that works. but i don't know the answer, sorry.
[02:25] <vistefan> ((
[02:25] <vistefan> And what term you use?
[02:25] <tomreyn> xfce4-terminal
[02:26] <vistefan> i see. Thx for support.
[02:26] <tomreyn> well, we did not get too far there ;)
[02:27] <tomreyn> vistefan: try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/499662/how-to-disable-popup-close-this-terminal-when-closing-terminal
[02:32] <vistefan> tomreyn: i got gconf-editor, but i don't have the node org -> gnome -> terminal -> legacy
[02:32] <tomreyn> vistefan: try with dconf-editor
[02:33] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release are yuou using there?
[02:35] <vistefan> tomreyn: that worked.
[02:35] <vistefan> I'm on 16.04
[02:35] <tomreyn> alright
[02:36] <vistefan> Thank you
[02:36] <tomreyn> welcome
[02:52] <hfp> I'm struggling with my network. I have both a WiFi and Ethernet plugged in. But for some reason, Ubuntu will prefer WiFi over Ethernet. My metrics don't match what I set in my network preferences. What gives?
[02:54] <hoho> Is there another channel to get help with graphics driver installs?  Can't get my new video working.
[02:54] <iresf> hello everone
[02:54] <iresf> is it possible to have a dedicated internet access with 1000 nodes ( computers ) that each of  node has different public IP   ?
[02:54] <jdr> You want 1000 public ips?
[02:54] <hoho> @iresf: yes. it's called the internet.
[02:56] <hoho> @resf: is IPv6 OK? would be easiest in that case.  for 1k IPv4 addresses, you likely have to pay.
[02:56] <hfp> iresf: good luck with IPv4, easy peasy with IPv6
[02:57] <outoftime_92> Firefox stoped working. First I pressed "Wait" and few minutes later "Force quit". Main proccess killed, all childen are alive. How to kill them?
[03:01] <outoftime_92> Can't open firefox
[03:05] <outoftime_92> And I have this $ tail /var/log/syslog http://termbin.com/2dii
[03:12] <outoftime_92> HobGoblin: it is good channel for help with graphics intall, just required people away
[03:15] <hfp> outoftime_92: run `pidof firefox`
[03:15] <hfp> outoftime_92: and ten `kill -9 <pid>` replacing <pid> with every number that pidof gave you
[03:16] <hfp> it will kill all the zombie firefox processes, then you should be good to re-open firefox
[03:18] <outoftime_92> hfp: do you know any way to loop through pids except for ...; do ... ; done ?
[03:22] <outoftime_92> hfp: http://termbin.com/8c4t still have some
[03:22] <outoftime_92> hfp: checked with ps aux | grep -i firefox
[03:22] <outoftime_92> hfp: don't know how to extract second row with pids to kill them
[03:23] <outoftime_92> hfp: second column*
[03:24] <outoftime_92> hfp: even sudo kill -9 didn't help
[03:25] <hfp> outoftime_92: you could pipe the output of `pidof firefox` to cut
[03:25] <hfp> but if you have only 2 processes left, it will probably be faster to type them manually
[03:26] <hfp> 3 processes*
[03:26] <hfp> outoftime_92: ^
[03:27] <outoftime_92> hfp: http://termbin.com/bez3
[03:29] <hfp> outoftime_92: you have only 3 pids to kill, why don't you do it manually? it's much faster than debugging your for loop IMHO
[03:30] <hfp> and I think your issue is that $pid is the whole list of pids
[03:30] <hfp> you could echo them instead to see if you get one iteration or three
[03:31] <outoftime_92> 3 in a row
[03:31] <outoftime_92> hfp: 3 rows I mean
[03:32] <hfp> heh idk then... what happens if you `sudo kill -9 20758`? Does that kill it?
[03:32] <outoftime_92> hfp: nope
[03:34] <hfp> sorry, idk then. you could try `ps axfu` to see what the parent process is and see if you can kill it instead
[03:36] <outoftime_92> found this in my dmesg http://termbin.com/n94t
[03:36] <outoftime_92> hfp: http://termbin.com/ai1k
[03:38] <hfp> if you grep through ps axfu, it won't help you. the point is to see the parent of the firefox processes so you can kill the parent instead
[03:40] <outoftime_92> hfp: sbin/upstart --user parent
[03:40] <outoftime_92> hfp: sbin/upstart --user
[03:41] <outoftime_92> hfp: I'm not sure is it good idea to kill this process
[03:42] <hfp> hfp: yeah probably not
[03:42] <hfp> outoftime_92: ^
[03:42] <kksafak> my wireless card doesn't work on ASPIRE ONE 725
[03:43] <hfp> outoftime_92: what if you restarted the machine, that should take care of it
[03:44] <outoftime_92> hfp: I know, but it is now a acceptable solution
[03:44] <kksafak> my wireless card doesn't work on ASPIRE ONE 725 after install xubuntu 17. i have the BCM943228HMGB brodcom wireless card
[03:45] <outoftime_92> hfp: not acceptable
[03:45] <outoftime_92> kksafak: check hard and soft block
[03:46] <hfp> outoftime_92: sorry then, I don't have any other ideas
[03:48] <outoftime_92> hfp: I can not reboot my dev machine everytime I set up my working anvironment and something goes wrong
[03:49] <kksafak_> what is hard and soft block?
[03:50] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: I'm not very helpfull right now, I can't start browser (: Google for "wifi hard and soft block"
[03:50] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: dont' forget prefix "ubuntu"
[03:50] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: maybe you have smartphone or some other internet access
[03:52] <kksafak_> yes i have a smartphone and i can connect wired on netbook
[03:53] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: visit ubuntu help page with tutorial how to set up wifi manually
[03:53] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: and report on which step faulty happens
[03:54] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: P.S. maybe you will find archlinux wiki very handy (I do)
[03:55] <kksafak_> #outoftime_92 is archlinux helpful to me? i have xubuntu 17
[03:55] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: manual wifi setup is common for almost every distro
[03:55] <kksafak_> thank you very much... @outoftime_92
[03:56] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: in ubuntu you just have to turn off net service
[03:56] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: network-manager I suppose
[03:58] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: if nobody responds, than they are away and can't help you, you will help a lot with report on which step of manual wifi setup you have an eror. So you will ask more precise question.
[03:59] <outoftime_92> kksafak_: dont' forget to report and ask your question again one in a while
[04:00] <kksafak_> thank you, i understandü
[04:03] <outoftime_92> How to kill zombie processed under /sbin/upstart --user ?
[04:15] <pengwens> outoftime_92: reboot
[04:17] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: See: http://askubuntu.com/questions/111422/how-to-find-zombie-process .
[04:17] <outoftime_92> pengwens: It is not an acceptable solution. I can not afford rebooting dev maching with few booted project every time firefox wants to f**k my brain
[04:17] <outoftime_92> Bashing-om: how should I do it if firefox didn't launch?
[04:25] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: Terminal will not care if the target is active .  ps aux | grep 'Z'  to find the zombies .
[04:28] <outoftime_92> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/2j8c
[04:30] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: read the Askubuntu link .. ya want to work next with 'pstree' .
[04:33] <outoftime_92> Bashing-om: 'to kill zombie proc you need to kill it's parent' parent is "/sbin/upstart --user"
[04:34] <outoftime_92> Bashing-om: is it good idea to kill it?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: Depends on what pstree reports .
[04:41] <iresf> if  i use ipv6 but a website disable  it  then is it possible to access it  ?
[04:48] <outoftime_92> Bashing-om: ptree shows same tree as ps auxf does?
[04:50] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: Do not know .
[04:53] <outoftime_92> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/x9in do yo know what this dmesg means?
[04:56] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: look'n .
[04:58] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: "general protection fault:" I'd be running a file system check . What is the file system ?
[05:02] <outoftime_92> Bashing-om: what?
[05:04] <Bashing-om> outoftime_92: System says it needs help .
[05:04] <jairosuse> hello
[05:04] <jairosuse> hello
[05:24] <conan_> Hey guys, whoz in NYC and up for a strip club?
[05:24] <conan_> I invite
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> conan_: only ubuntu support here
[05:25] <outoftime_92> lotuspsychje: only Ubuntu strip club?
[05:25] <conan_> do you have a good channel to advise?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> outoftime_92: plz dont feed
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !alis | conan_ find channels
[05:26] <outoftime_92> lotuspsychje: do not judge strict, I have really bad mood, need relax a bit..
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | outoftime_92 i dont judge
[05:27] <conan_> Okay okay
[05:27] <conan_> thx
[05:45] <ConsoleFx> Hello!
[05:45] <ConsoleFx> I am having a very annoying issue with my wireless connectivity
[05:45] <ConsoleFx> All of a sudden I am unable to connect through my USB wireless dongle
[05:46] <ConsoleFx> I am sure I didnt perform any stupid installation which would screw up my networks or wireless
[05:46] <ConsoleFx> all of a sudden it shows "Device not ready"
[05:46] <rroethof> pfff
[05:46] <rroethof> just installed few vps'es.. no networking..
[05:47] <rroethof> something with an idiot decided to go and do 'netplan'
[05:47] <ConsoleFx> I tried $sudo rflist unlock all, but still no luck. I verified the file networkmanager.state and all parameters are set to True only. Nothing is false.
[05:47] <rroethof> what fool decided to switch a perfectly working /etc/network/interfaces with that yaml crap netplan thing?
[05:47] <ConsoleFx> Any helps!
[05:49] <MeaCulpa> ConsoleFx does it show in your file manager as mounted?
[05:49] <ConsoleFx> Hey MeaCulpa
[05:49] <ConsoleFx> hello! :)
[05:49] <MeaCulpa> how you doing
[05:50] <MeaCulpa> I"m just having a stab in the dark
[05:50] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, it feels like this ubuntu is not sparing me a day lol
[05:50] <MeaCulpa> lol
[05:50] <ConsoleFx> all weird issues
[05:50] <MeaCulpa> but it's something to do huh
[05:50] <ConsoleFx> btw i formatted it to 16.04 now
[05:50] <ConsoleFx> couldnt handle 17.10 anymore
[05:50] <MeaCulpa> good plan, are you happier with it?
[05:51] <ConsoleFx> ofcourse but this issue of wireless is driving me nuts
[05:51] <ConsoleFx> since yesterday
[05:51] <ConsoleFx> this never happened to before
[05:51] <ConsoleFx> to me before**
[05:51] <MeaCulpa> I tried installing kubuntu desktop today with no joy, I figure if somethings working leave it be hehe
[05:51] <MeaCulpa> must be a way around it
[05:51] <ConsoleFx> hmmm
[05:52] <MeaCulpa> check and see if it's mounted in your file manager
[05:52] <ConsoleFx> something is blocking the wireless driver I feel
[05:52] <ConsoleFx> mounted?? meaning
[05:52] <ConsoleFx> u mean the USB dongle as a USB drive?
[05:52] <MeaCulpa> meaning it should appear under +other
[05:52] <rroethof> hmm feel like dropping Ubuntu altogether.. why the frack replace /etc/network/interfaces with crappy yaml bullshit
[05:53] <MeaCulpa> yeah I think it should be mounted, like a disk
[05:53] <ConsoleFx> nope
[05:53] <MeaCulpa> hmmm
[05:53] <ConsoleFx> basically it doesnt mount
[05:53] <ConsoleFx> however i could see in dmesg that its plugged-in
[05:53] <MeaCulpa> what happens when you plug it in with system running?
[05:54] <ConsoleFx> but it says "Link is not ready"
[05:54] <MeaCulpa> any notifications?
[05:54] <ConsoleFx> zero
[05:54] <MeaCulpa> let me try plugging one into mine
[05:54] <MeaCulpa> brb
[05:54] <ConsoleFx> Only in the notification panel, it says Wi-Fi Networks<lf>device not ready
[05:57] <MeaCulpa> hmm mine notifies that a network connection is established when plugged in
[05:57] <MeaCulpa> maybe an issue with the dongle
[05:57] <MeaCulpa> can you try it in something else
[05:57] <ConsoleFx> it works fine on my dual boot win7 though
[05:57] <ConsoleFx> in the same usb port
[05:58] <MeaCulpa> maybe take a look in network settings
[05:59] <ConsoleFx> nothing significant
[05:59] <ConsoleFx> all looks normal
[05:59] <ConsoleFx> i have no idea wtf happened :s
[05:59] <ConsoleFx> this is indeed annoying
[06:01] <MeaCulpa> if you go into system setting then network it should come up under the wired tab where there is an on/off switch
[06:01] <MeaCulpa> open your network setting and watch as you plug it in
[06:01] <ConsoleFx> link detected: no
[06:02] <MeaCulpa> hang on at tic consolefx
[06:03] <MeaCulpa> I turned mine off while I was messing with it now I cant get it back and I think there in lies the clue
[06:04] <ConsoleFx> oops
[06:04] <ConsoleFx> !!
[06:04] <MeaCulpa> just as well I never use it
[06:05] <ConsoleFx> hmm
[06:06] <ConsoleFx> so there is no way I can reset my complete wireless settings to defaults?
[06:06] <ConsoleFx> just in-case
[06:07] <MeaCulpa> wait up it took a few minutes now it's appeared
[06:07] <MeaCulpa> maybe give it some time to wake up
[06:07] <MeaCulpa> do you have any other ports to try?
[06:07] <MeaCulpa> well it's all happening automagically for me
[06:07] <MeaCulpa> try banging it lol
[06:07] <MeaCulpa> maybe a reboot???
[06:08] <MeaCulpa> are you on that machine now?
[06:08] <ConsoleFx> nope.. i had a spare laptop
[06:08] <ConsoleFx> its on by my side though
[06:08] <MeaCulpa> well try rebooting then plug in again
[06:09] <ConsoleFx> the dmesg shows link is not ready
[06:09] <MeaCulpa> or boot with it plugged in
[06:09] <ConsoleFx> tried many times :(
[06:09] <ConsoleFx> no luck buddy
[06:09] <MeaCulpa> I can imagine
[06:09] <ConsoleFx> :(
[06:09] <ConsoleFx> it freaks me out when i think of reinstalling again
[06:09] <MeaCulpa> no don't do that
[06:10] <ConsoleFx> i m sure there is a minor problem which is not showing any hints now
[06:10] <ConsoleFx> once that small stuff is fixed, it should start working
[06:10] <ConsoleFx> because the same works fine with win7 flawless
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> ConsoleFx MeaCulpa easy on the enter button, try to focus on the actual issue?
[06:14] <ConsoleFx> lotuspsychje, okay :)
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> ConsoleFx: wifi chipset? driver loaded? kernel version?
[06:15] <ConsoleFx> lotuspsychje, yep.. the USB is recognizing
[06:15] <ConsoleFx> can confirm through lsusb
[06:16] <ConsoleFx> lotuspsychje, all it says, device not ready in the top right corner notification panel
[06:16] <MeaCulpa> all I can find is to shutdown unplug all other network connections and try rebooting
[06:16] <MeaCulpa> there are a few articles about this sort of thing, I guess you read them?
[06:17] <ConsoleFx> MeaCulpa, I rebooted couple of times though inserting//plugging out the usb
[06:17] <ConsoleFx> no luck so far
[06:17] <ConsoleFx> yeah
[06:17] <ConsoleFx> went through few articles though
[06:17] <ConsoleFx> some says you need to modify NetworkManager.state file to true
[06:17] <ConsoleFx> verified my configs and all are set to true only
[06:17] <MeaCulpa> Sorry I can't help and that /etc/default/tlp file doesn't exist on my machine
[06:18] <MeaCulpa> does it exist on yours?
[06:18] <ConsoleFx> nope
[06:18] <MeaCulpa> you're reading the same stuff then
[06:18] <MeaCulpa> hmmm
[06:19] <MeaCulpa> so many things are tuned to work on doze and nothing else
[06:19] <MeaCulpa> may I ask what make dongle?
[06:19] <MeaCulpa> mine is a huawei
[06:20] <MeaCulpa> I'll plug in and see if the file appears brb
[06:21] <ConsoleFx> tp-link
[06:29] <MeaCulpa> are you here ConsoleFx
[06:29] <ConsoleFx> ye
[06:30] <MeaCulpa> try installing network-manager
[06:30] <MeaCulpa> I see its name mentioned in my syslog when I plug and unplug my dongle
[06:31] <MeaCulpa> sudo apt-get install network-manager
[06:31] <MeaCulpa> supposed to be for VPN
[06:31] <ConsoleFx> alredy installed
[06:31] <MeaCulpa> dang
[06:31] <ConsoleFx> hehe
[06:32] <MeaCulpa> I suspect the dongle, here try mine
[06:32] <ConsoleFx> i think "may be" the dongle firmware is screwed
[06:32] <MeaCulpa> could be a bill gates thing
[06:32] <MeaCulpa> I have to go sorry
[06:32] <ConsoleFx> np
[06:50] <skishore86> how to install intrusion detection software on Ubuntu 16.04
[06:51] <skishore86> help please
[06:52] <Javabean> !patience
[06:52] <skishore86> ok thank you\
[06:53] <MeaCulpa> Consolefx are you here?
[06:53] <guiverc> skishore86, the only such software I've installed is tripwire; but it was too long ago for me to be willing to advise.  as i recall it was only a `apt-get install` but setup required more.  have you looked for articles?
[06:54] <guiverc> (articles on your options - not just tripwire)
[06:54] <skishore86> @guiverc I have followed this link.. https://blog.rapid7.com/2017/01/11/how-to-install-snort-nids-on-ubuntu-linux/
[06:54] <skishore86> @guiverc but it is not working
[06:56] <guiverc> (just looked; tarball..)  - what issues/error did you have?
[06:58] <skishore86> guiverc, this link is not working wget https://www.snort.org/downloads/snort/snort-2.9.8.3.tar.gz
[06:59] <skishore86> guiverc, page not found!
[06:59] <guiverc> yeah I just tried - 404 too, so I'll open in a browser & peek..
[06:59] <skishore86> guiverc, I have tried even in browser
[06:59] <skishore86> guiverc, same issue
[07:00] <guiverc>   try wget https://www.snort.org/downloads/snort/daq-2.0.6.tar.gz
[07:01] <skishore86> guiverc, thats different url..
[07:01] <guiverc> or better wget https://www.snort.org/downloads/snort/snort-2.9.11.1.tar.gz  (the version you wanted)
[07:01] <guiverc> yeah - b/c of 404, I browsed up until I got no error then looked in browser
[07:01] <guiverc> https://www.snort.org/
[07:01] <skishore86> guiverc, got it... will try it now..
[07:03] <stoopkid> hi so, on an ubuntu 14.04 machine i had a usb drive, /dev/sdc, and a hard-drive /dev/sdb, and i copied the ubuntu 16.04 iso from the usb to the hard-drive with `dd bs=4M if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb oflag=sync`, and an lsblk on /dev/sdb shows two partitions sdb1, 1.4G, and sdb2, 2.3M, but i'm seeing that /dev/sdb1 has no FSTYPE while /dev/sdc1 has iso9660
[07:04] <guiverc> stoopkid, yeah - what did you expect?  (you dd'd a iso
[07:05] <guiverc> iso's are for writing to dvd, or usb for booting & installing.
[07:06] <guiverc> sorry - hold on.  i think i err'd
[07:07] <stoopkid> so i can't dd the iso to the hard-drive and then boot into the install with that hard-drive?
[07:08] <guiverc> sorry I had a look at a usb-install-media; two parts one 2.3Mb & other 1.5gb (ubuntu 16.04.3 I think)
[07:08] <siva_machina> You need to boot it from an external medium. Then use that to install to your Hard drive.
[07:08] <stoopkid> that's what lsblk is showing, yea
[07:08] <guiverc> nope - it's for booting, so you can TRY ubuntu and INSTALL to another usb/hdd/....
[07:10] <guiverc> technically you may be able to boot & install from your hdd, but it'll be to another device (or partition with some work...)   I'd just re-write to a usb-thumb-drive
[07:11] <stoopkid> well i've got it on the thumb-drive but this computer doesn't seem to support usb booting
[07:11] <maryo> I would like to customize live image of ubuntu by installing certain packages. What is the recommended way to do this?
[07:12] <siva_machina> stoopkid Do you have a blank dvd?
[07:12] <stoopkid> nope
[07:12] <guiverc> stoopkid, how old is it? (your machine)  you have to make changes to boot-order within bios first, though for most dell/hp/.. you can press <f9> (or another key) @ boot to pull up an option (though this can be disabled by bios)
[07:12] <guiverc> the <f9/f12/..> key is easily missed; modern hardware is pretty quick...
[07:14] <stoopkid> i open up bios, it lets me set boot priority, there's an hdd subgroup, that has it's own priority list, that shows the hard-drives and the usb, it says press + to move an option up, - to move it down, but, doesn't seem to change anything, and i can't find any options in the bios where changing this would've been disabled or something
[07:15] <stoopkid> i.e. when i press + or - the options don't move in the priority list, screen just flickers a bit and the priority stays the same
[07:16] <guiverc> stoopkid, yeah changing bios can be a pain (we don't do it enough to remember anything), but you need usb to be higher. also note some machines can only boot USB device when there is only one usb installed  (esp. older hardware)
[07:17] <guiverc> did you see a 'secure boot' option?
[07:17] <stoopkid> so hrm, what if i remove /dev/sda physically, so that the usb is the only thing in the boot priority, and then put it back in after its already booted from usb?
[07:18] <guiverc> nope - with the hdd removed; you'll likely be unable to install to hdd (unless your hardware supports hotswap)
[07:18] <stoopkid> i think secureboot is uefi right?
[07:19] <guiverc> yep
[07:19] <siva_machina> You eould most likely end up with ane
[07:19] <siva_machina> an ecpebdivr door stop
[07:19] <stoopkid> i think this is bios
[07:20] <stoopkid> no /sys/firmware/efi
[07:20] <stoopkid> (if that's a proper way to check for that?)
[07:23] <guiverc> stoopkid, sorry my knowledge of uefi is limited.   i'd hope your fix is in bios. what age & make is the machine?
[07:25] <stoopkid> `lshw` shows hp pavilion 061, motherboard asustek nagami2 (version 2), firmware BIOS phoenix technologies version 3.07, date 04/13/2006
[07:29] <skishore86> logoff
[07:29] <guiverc> stoopkid, i'm trying to get into bios in an inspiron (spel?) to see if i can find any clues on bios..
[07:31] <stoopkid> i can pull open the bios and take pics of each screen if that'll help, i really didn't see anything at all that looked like it had anything to do with it though, besides for that hdd group priority list
[07:36] <guiverc> stoopkid, nope (its dell anyway), also looked at sony (more modern) and see reference to 'external' drives (enable/disable) but I'm not sure you'll see that in yours
[07:38] <guiverc> stoopkid, thanks, i'll look online for now (i gotta go very soon anyway)
[07:39] <Arronicus> Couple quick questions if anyone has a moment;
[07:39] <guiverc> stoopkid, this may help https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00364979  (may not apply to yours though)
[07:40] <Arronicus> I'm looking to install linux on my ARM processor chromebook, does anyone know of any lightweight linux distros right now that are compatible? Was wondering if lubuntu or xubuntu might work? Also, a lot of the guides say that you need a usb mouse. Is that a requirement, or will my touchpad work fine?
[07:41] <guiverc> stoopkid, i'd suggest trying searching online for abit; i used `phoenix bios hp setting usb to boot` & got quite a few pages; hopefully one will look like yours.
[07:41] <guiverc> (ps: i don't use oogle - use whatever you feel is appropriate esp. search terms)
[07:42] <stoopkid> why don't you use google? just curious
[07:45] <stoopkid> i saw an F10 option to supposedly get into some system recovery menu, but i'm guessing this was a probably a best buy machine made to be packaged with windows and that was a windows system recovery; when i press F10 i just end up in ubuntu, which is kind of funny/ironic i'm right about the windows thing heh
[07:45] <stoopkid> if** i'm right
[07:46] <guiverc> ((privacy; i do in one browser.. they see enough of me thru other services...))
[07:47] <stoopkid> ah
[07:47] <stoopkid> yea i guess they are privy to quite a bit of metadata, asymmetrically
[07:47] <guiverc> i suspect yep: f10 would boots a set partition (recovery does that on sony thing here) for recovery
[07:48] <guiverc> stoopkid, i gotta go sorry (dinner elsewhere) - maybe others can help...
[07:48] <stoopkid> np thanks for the help
[07:49] <stoopkid> who knows i may still be here trying to figure it out when you return XD
[07:49] <guiverc> :)
[07:56] <maryo> Just looking for some guidance in customizing live image of ubuntu by installing certain packages which is needed for us. What is the recommended way to do this?
[08:00] <stoopkid> so, what's different between booting installation from a usb and booting installation from an iso dd'd onto a hard-drive, like, is there something equivalent you could put on a hard-drive?
[08:08] <davidisko> hi there. what the hell the predictable network interface names a bull<>it is? everytime i add/remove some pcie device it renames my ethernet interface and then my /etc/network/interfaces is useless and the machines boots with no internet connection. any ideas?
[08:14] <davidisko> z
[08:32] <bolvary> Hello, I am using Ubuntu Windows dual, and after updating my Windows yesterday I can no longer login to Windows 10. In Ubuntu I have installed boot-repair and now it gives me the minimal bash-like line editing
[08:33] <bolvary> Please advise how to proceed.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> first fix windows with the windows fix tools.  then reinstall grub on the ubuntu side
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !grub | bolvary
[08:35] <bolvary> I have already did update-grub, and since I cannot log into Windows I do not know how to use its fix tools.
[08:35] <cfhowlett> ask ##windows for windows support
[08:35] <bolvary> thanks, i will
[08:35] <cfhowlett> and "update grub" is NOT reinstall gurb
[08:41] <outoftime_92> I have started memtest+ 5.01 and runned it 2 passes. I have 7 error about single Failing Address. Is there a way to block access to that memory?
[08:42] <outoftime_92> One more question is: how to determine which of 3 slots have an error by an address?
[08:54] <bolvary> cfhowlett thanks for the clarification
[08:59] <SegFault1> 14.04 repository purged or what? 'apt update && apt upgrade' is throwing me a bunch of 404s.
[09:14] <Vic2> I am running Ubuntu 14.04.5 and had something wierd happen ... it appears that wine has disappeared from the PC.  So, I installed the wine 3.0 from the winehq web site.  It did not run my application so I uninstalled it and am now trying to reinstall Wine from the software center but encounter this error ...  unmet dependencies: wine1.6: Depends: wine1.6-amd64 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4) but 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[09:14] <Vic2>          Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4) but it is a virtual package
[09:14] <Vic2> how do I need to proceed?
[09:35] <outoftime_92> Vic2: reask your questions once in a while
[09:36] <outoftime_92> Vic2: also try to join wine channel, maybe they will help you faster
[09:49] <Vic2> outoftime ty, i resolved that issue on my own, but am going to the wine channel to help with another wine specific issue ... what is their channel?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> !wine
[09:53] <easyOnMe> hello everyone
[09:53] <easyOnMe> I need some help
[09:53] <easyOnMe> as I encounter some issues with my ubuntu when I opened my laptop just now
[09:53] <easyOnMe> I am no longer seeing the minimize, close and maximize buttons of the my nautilus
[09:54] <easyOnMe> also the desktop the bar above that shows the wifi icons and other stuff does not show up
[09:54] <Vic2> ty ubottu
[09:55] <Vic2> ubottu is a bot no?
[09:55] <Vic2> lol
[09:55] <easyOnMe> hello everyone
[09:55] <Vic2> ok unintelligent one!
[09:55] <easyOnMe> I need some help
[09:55] <easyOnMe> as I encounter some issues with my ubuntu when I opened my laptop just now
[09:55] <easyOnMe> I am no longer seeing the minimize, close and maximize buttons of the my nautilus
[09:56] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, logout.  login.  should fix it.  if not, reboot.
[09:56] <easyOnMe> I have been doing that but to no avail
[09:57] <easyOnMe> I even reinstalled the nautilus but nothing happens
[09:57] <easyOnMe> also my desktop bar that should appear on the left is no longer around
[09:57] <cfhowlett> check your display resolution settings.
[09:57] <easyOnMe> usually it shows whenever I completed my log in
[09:58] <easyOnMe> what about the resolution settings
[09:58] <easyOnMe> what should I do or adjust
[09:59] <cfhowlett> wrong settings = wrong display.
[09:59] <easyOnMe> aslo the windows I cannot do any movement using my mouse
[09:59] <cfhowlett> you should be set at your screens native resoution, but experiment
[10:00] <easyOnMe> but usually the windows of the nautilus will show the close, maximize and minimize icons right
[10:00] <TJ-> easyOnMe: check the $HOME/.xsession-errors log file for clues
[10:00] <easyOnMe> but now each nautilus window I opened it does not show it
[10:02] <easyOnMe> how do I check the /.xsession-errors log file
[10:03] <himvish997> himvish997
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe    less ~/.xsession-errors
[10:06] <easyOnMe> it did not show anything
[10:06] <easyOnMe> also the top most bars for each nautilus windows does not appear
[10:09] <outoftime_92> TJ-: Hello. Can you advice to read something about Ubuntu/Linux administration ?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> outoftime_92  https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/12/50-unix-linux-sysadmin-tutorials/
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> (2010)
[10:12] <TJ-> outoftime_92: something like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[10:12] <TJ-> outoftime_92: ha! just found your email :D
[10:12] <easyOnMe> guys any other advice about the problem I encounter
[10:12] <easyOnMe> tried adjusting the appearance setting to no avail
[10:14] <easyOnMe> I just did not remember adjusting any display settings
[10:14] <TJ-> easyOnMe: it sounds like the desktop environment manager thing (I forget it's name!!) has crashed, but I can't remember the steps for trying to restart it
[10:16] <easyOnMe> I will be right back
[10:16] <easyOnMe> I found something and I am just going to try it by logging out and logging in
[10:16] <easyOnMe> see you later again guys
[10:19] <outoftime_92> MonkeyDust: thanks, I'll save it
[10:20] <outoftime_92> TJ-: check your mail time to time, it is your launchpad public mail. Maybe somebody will write you (:
[10:21] <outoftime_92> TJ-: I think your link is a good start for solving issues related to desktop version.
[10:21] <TJ-> outoftime_92: I do, but I have about 80 different mailing lists and each has it's own email folder, so I only check some once or twice a week
[10:29] <conego> r
[10:29] <conego> rf
[10:29] <conego> e
[10:29] <conego> r
[10:30] <ikonia> conego: please stop
[10:30] <conego> fr
[10:30] <conego> fvtb
[10:30] <ikonia> conego: please stop
[10:31] <hate-teen> Hello World !
[10:33] <stoopkid> so if i have the ubuntu installation iso stored on a drive, is there any way to run it to install ubuntu onto that drive without going through external media like flash drives or secondary hard-drives or cd/dvds etc?
[10:33] <ikonia> stoopkid: you can, but it's reasonably tricky to setup
[10:34] <cfhowlett> why not do a normal installation?
[10:34] <ikonia> you'll find it a lot easier to just burn to DVD/USB
[10:34] <gordonjcp> USB, at that
[10:34] <gordonjcp> do you even get DVD drives now?
[10:34] <stoopkid> well, i don't have any cd/dvd's and this particular machine won't usb boot
[10:35] <ikonia> a quick click on amazon will remove that problem in less than 24 hours
[10:36] <TJ-> stoopkid: if the system has plenty of RAM it's possible to 'move' the ISO image into tmpfs so the media can be written to
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:19] <brci> join #javafx
[11:19] <brci> how does this work
[11:27] <denixx|h2> Hi all!
[11:29] <stoopkid> TJ-: sorry got pulled away
[11:29] <stoopkid> what's plenty? i've got 2G
[11:30] <TJ-> stoopkid: 2G is not enough :)  ... there needs to be enough RAM to both run the installer OS as normal and use some as a RAM-disk which needs to be the size of the ISO file
[11:33] <stoopkid> how much memory does the installer typically use? looks like booting directly into root shell with recovery mode takes ~106M leaving 1.8G free, i notice ubuntu iso is ~1.5G, i guess that would leave ~3G free in my probably naive theories?
[11:33] <stoopkid> sorry ~.3G
[11:39] <stoopkid> do you have a link that explains how to do this tmpfs method? i'd be curious to see how it works even if i can't actually do it with this machine with the amount of RAM i've got in it
[11:43] <TJ-> stoopkid: I don't; It's a method I developed myself to find out if it was possible due to a few people asking the question
[11:44] <stoopkid> so would be what's called creating a 'ramdisk' for the iso? and then some how jumping into executing it?
[11:44] <stoopkid> so this would*
[11:54] <Vic2> Back again with my Wine issue ..... I am looking in the history of the software center more closely ... it appears that I did updates at 10:00 and then at 10:05 wine and ocl-icd-lobopencl1 were removed .... the ocl... was one of the things I had to reinstall to reinstall Wine 1.6. ... so maybe some other update was incompatible with Wine and that caused Wine to be removed?
[11:57] <aka> i have a problem with audio drive for a asus eeepc 1005px. Is not working in Bodhi linux and i don-t know what to o anymore after i google it all over for help.
[11:59] <aka> Does someone knows what to do? pleas help me!
[12:01] <guiverc> Bodhi is not Ubuntu, thus off-topic for this room. Audio works fine on my eeepc with lubuntu though
[12:02] <guiverc> sorry aka i don't know what room is more appropriate for you.  if this were askubuntu i'd direct you to se's unix & linux q&a site.
[12:03] <aka> i know that is based on ubuntu
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> aka  and ubuntu is based on debian
[12:05] <Vic2> aka - https://discordapp.com/invite/Qrn4rsP
[12:05] <aka> vic2 - i am alone there
[12:06] <Vic2> Well it is very early on a Sunday morning in the US and EU ... so maybe wait a few hours?
[12:07] <guiverc> while not a IRC site; if you're willing to use a question-answer site; maybe https://unix.stackexchange.com
[12:12] <Vic2> Which version of Wine is in the repository for 16.04?
[12:14] <guiverc> Vic2, 1.6.2 according to my reading of https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wine
[12:15] <Vic2> ty, so same as in 14.04 .... which makes me wonder why I am having this problem and yet it seems to be limited in scope?
[12:16] <ikonia> limited in scope ?
[12:17] <Vic2> I have not seen others complain that wine is suddenly broken after updates 10 days ago ...
[12:17] <ikonia> in what way is wine broken, generally or for one application,
[12:18] <Vic2> I cannot say if generally or one app as I only run one app with wine.
[12:18] <ikonia> so you understand that wine is not a "solution"
[12:18] <ikonia> in that it will work/break as application around it change, and as the applications it allows to work change
[12:19] <ikonia> eg: wine could work fine for 10 years for one game, they change the protocol the game uses to talk to the game server, wine crashes
[12:19] <ikonia> nothing to do with wine updates or anything like that,
[12:19] <Vic2> seemingly so but there have been no changes in the app in this time period.
[12:19] <ikonia> so if you use wine to get you out of a problem, thats great, but if you depend on wine as solution, I personally think you'll be dissapointed
[12:20] <ikonia> Vic2: there may have been changes around it, ubuntu, wine, the app - 3 core things that can impact wine's ability to function
[12:20] <ikonia> and it's 1 app, it maybe working fine for everyone else with other apps
[12:26] <dc> how do I uninstall software I install offline. I installed sublime using this link http://docs.sublimetext.info/en/latest/getting_started/install.html. I would like to use ppa instead, how do I remove sublime?
[12:27] <ikonia> undo what you did
[12:27] <ikonia> it's that simple if you have instructions that say "do this" work them backwards
[12:28] <dc> okay. so I need to delete sublime folder in /opt and sublime.desktop. How do I undo symbolic linking?
[12:29] <dc> I used this command earlier sudo ln -s /opt/Sublime\ Text\ 3/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime
[12:29] <ikonia> just remove the symbolic links
[12:29] <ikonia> they are just files from your perspective
[12:32] <Vic2> 0009:err:wgl:init_opengl Failed to load libGL: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:32] <Vic2> 0009:err:wgl:init_opengl OpenGL support is disabled.
[12:32] <Vic2> wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x55db83 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
[12:32] <Vic2> Is there anything useful in that? a dependency that perhaps someone notices that I am missing? anything?
[12:33] <ikonia> you can see it failing to load the libgl library
[12:33] <ikonia> so thats something I'd work on fixing
[12:34] <Vic2> ok, so what would the package be containing that library?  This is where I start to not have much of a clue.  I can certainly reinstall libraries, but do not know what to install to install them ....
[12:34] <ikonia> depends on your video card setup,
[12:35] <ikonia> looks like it's in the mesa package
[12:35] <ikonia> also the nvidia package
[12:35] <ikonia> (if you're using nvidia)
[12:36] <Vic2> Intel Q45/43 ?
[12:36] <multifractal> If I wanted to format my laptop with SSD drive prior to giving it to someone else, how can I semi-securely erase the data? Could I go to a live Ubuntu installer environment, and do something like `dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda`?
[12:36] <ikonia> ?
[12:37] <Vic2> That is what overview says concerning the graphics ... Intel Q45/43
[12:38] <Kon-> multifractal, just reformat all your partitions with a different filesystem from the one used
[12:38] <Kon-> You don't even really need to go that far, but you can if you're paranoid
[12:38] <multifractal> Kon- interesting, wht's the rationale?
[12:39] <Kon-> Data can sometimes be recovered if the partition is wiped but nothing has written over it
[12:40] <multifractal> Just so that off-the-shelf recovery tools will struggle to recover the data. I'm not intending to hide my tracks from James Bond type attackers.
[12:40] <frostschutz> multifractal, with SSD you can erase all data in an eyeblink using blkdiscard /dev/deleteme (full TRIM entire device)
[12:42] <frostschutz> multifractal, still, overwriting with random data (shred -v -n 1) is the most lethal option, but it's a waste of write cycles if you're going to keep using that SSD anyhow
[12:44] <Voje> Hello. Using a fully updated 17.10, i have for the last year had issues with avahi-daemon crashing on a regular basis. Most often on the eduroam web on my uni. Any tips?
[12:46] <brainwash> Voje: maybe just disabling it
[12:48] <Voje> brainwash: So it's unnecessary? If not, why does Ubuntu include a component that regularly crashes? :S
[12:48] <ikonia> it doesn't crash on a regular basis for everyone
[12:48] <ikonia> that's why
[12:49] <Voje> ikonia: Still. If it's not a necessary component, vanilla, lts ubuntu should not include a component with those issues. Google is full of it.
[12:50] <ikonia> it doesn't have issues
[12:50] <ikonia> it's not necessary - it's there to help, which it does for the majority
[12:50] <Voje> My impression from google searches is not that my issues are isolated.
[12:51] <ikonia> you can google any bit of software and you'll find people raising issues
[12:51] <ikonia> some genuine, some user error,
[12:51] <brainwash> you could read through bug reports like this one bug 1638345
[12:51] <ikonia> no-one writes google posts saying "this is stable software" so of course a google search will pull up bug reports first
[12:52] <Voje> When the tip solution i get is that i should disable it, it does not seem like a core, stable component.
[12:52] <Voje> But ok, I'm not trying to cause a ruckus :D
[12:52] <Voje> I'll just diasble it
[12:53] <ikonia> one person saying "disable it if you don't need it" is does not make it a core stable component does it
[12:53] <ikonia> if I say "install 2 versions of it" does that make it mega stable so you should install 2 copies, no it doesn't
[12:53] <ikonia> one person making a quick suggestion does not make this unstable
[12:53] <Voje> Do you even understand core component?
[12:54] <Voje> Do you have any better tips for me then?
[12:54] <Voje> To solve my issues with that core component?
[12:54] <brainwash> you can help to debug the issue
[12:55] <Voje> I don't have the skills to do this on my own, but with guidence, yes
[12:55] <ikonia> Voje: yes, I do
[12:55] <ikonia> I understand core component
[12:55] <Voje> ikonia: I'm listening
[12:55] <ikonia> clearly you're not
[12:55] <Voje> lol
[12:56] <janleva> hi
[12:56] <Noxturnix-PC> hello
[12:56] <ikonia> as you're just mouthing off about how unstable it is
[12:56] <Voje> Come on now, help me
[12:56] <Voje> and not just slander
[12:56] <ikonia> Voje: I think someone else should help you,
[12:56] <Voje> lol!
[12:56] <ikonia> no one is slandering you
[12:56] <Noxturnix-PC> what's the problem?
[12:57] <Voje> Avahi-daemon crashes on a regular basis, and I'm starting to get annoyed of it.
[12:57] <janleva> hello
[12:57] <Voje> Most often it happens on the eduroam web on my uni, but now it started happening at home as well
[12:58] <Voje> the best tip i've gotten is to disable it
[13:00] <Voje> And that seems like the best tip I'll get... Thanks brainwash!
[13:03] <Sven_vB> Voje, if you don't need avahi, it's probably a good idea to disable it.
[13:04] <Sven_vB> eduroam doesn't sound like a network where you'd usually announce service availability to other machines in the network,
[13:05] <Sven_vB> Voje, LTS should still include it because avahi can be very helpful in private networks, e.g. for automatically discovering available printers.
[13:06] <Sven_vB> Voje, for more detailed analysis, we'd need more info about the crashes, like error and log messages.
[13:06] <Voje> Sven_vB: Good answers, ty.
[13:07] <Voje> Sven_vB: I have an error open though
[13:07] <Voje> Always send reports, and have dnone so for a year.
[13:08] <Sven_vB> yeah I know, free spare time of qualified technicians is sparse.
[13:08] <Voje> I can understand that
[13:08] <Voje> Sven_vB: Care to guide some, or should i just disable it and go on my way? :)
[13:09] <Sven_vB> Voje, I'll have a look at the error messages if you like.
[13:09] <Voje> Sven_vB: How can i share it? I have the dialouge window up, but maybe it creates a log file as well?
[13:14] <Voje> Sven_vB: Did some digging and found this repetition in syslog. Is this something? https://pastebin.com/8q7SsSQU
[13:15] <TJ-> Voje: ouch! "Out of memory, aborting ..."
[13:15] <Voje> I see that, but right after startup?
[13:16] <TJ-> Debian bug here https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=841926
[13:17] <Voje> But the error the dialogue window throws it that "Avahi-daemon crashed with SIGABRT in avahi_malloc()".
[13:17] <riotz> uhm.. i dont see the microcode updates on the applications window on 17.10 anymore
[13:17] <Voje> And that gave me different hits on google
[13:17] <riotz> have they been removed?
[13:19] <TJ-> Voje: what does "apt list --installed avahi-daemon" report?
[13:19] <coffeeguy> hi is the upgrade from 16.04.3 to 16.04.4 automatic with software updater?
[13:20] <Voje> TJ-: 0.6.32. And i see on that bug report link says that it should be fixed in 0.7.
[13:20] <TJ-> coffeeguy: the point upgrades only really apply in 2 situations: what's in the ISO installer images, and which Hardware Enablement kernel/xorg packages are available
[13:20] <Voje> TJ-: So an upgrade is now next
[13:21] <coffeeguy> thanks TJ
[13:22] <TJ-> coffeeguy: regular upgrades will bring in everything those have... you should see "cat /etc/issue" reporting the point release from those upgrades
[13:23] <TJ-> Voje: 18.04 has the latest release, but 17.10 and lower would require an SRU (Stable Release Upgrade) which generally doesn't allow wholesale version changes, only specific bug-fixing patches
[13:24] <Voje> TJ-: I'm starting to notice difficulties on how to do it, yes. SHould i upgrade to 18.04 beta?
[13:25] <david_> Hi everyone. Am I in the right chat line for linux mint 18 questions?
[13:25] <TJ-> Voje: no, but please report the bug for 17.10 in Launchpad then we can see about getting it fixe
[13:25] <TJ-> !mint " david_
[13:25] <TJ-> !mint | david_
[13:26] <coffeeguy> 18.04 going to be a LTR?
[13:26] <TJ-> coffeeguy: LTS (Long Term Support) - yes
[13:26] <coffeeguy> yah ah ok ty
[13:27] <Voje> TJ-: Ok, for those answers I'll do as you ask :)
[13:27] <TJ-> Voje: I'm checking upstream now to see if we can easily backport the out-of-memory fix
[13:27] <Voje> TJ-: nice :)
[13:33] <Voje> TJ-: WHat is the proper way to do this? I found this, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/1638345 and it seems like the same bug.
[13:34] <TJ-> Voje: good find! I didn't spot that one when searching for "out of memory"
[13:35] <Voje> TJ-: But it seems like no one has said that it happens on 17.10
[13:35] <Voje> TJ-: There's a workaround though
[13:39] <TJ-> Voje: did you follow through to the SRU bug #1661869 ... that talks about the issue being caused by privileged containers + host (all using the same host UID) causing the limits hit due to 1 avahi-daemon per container + host's
[13:40] <Voje> TJ-: What do you mean follow through? If that is how i found the bug on launchpad?
[13:41] <TJ-> Voje: the bug ^^^ I've just mentioned was mentioned/linked in the report you found as being the one to track the progress of the fixes, and in the bug I've linked there is a patch... but for some reason it hasn't followed through to being published
[13:43] <Voje> TJ-: Ahh, I see. No, I didn't catch that. I'm reading it now, but most is way above my level of competence.
[13:43] <TJ-> Voje: I've added a comment to prod the assigned developer (if they read their email!) to get the SRU moving
[13:44] <TJ-> Voje: you could build the patched version yourself quite easily
[13:44] <Voje> TJ-: :) Nice. I have now just commented out those [rlimits] sections in the avahi-daemon.
[13:44] <Voje> Which seemed to be a workaround. I'll see if that helps tomorrow at uni :)
[13:45] <Voje> TJ-: But, should i do something at launchpad?
[13:46] <Voje> TJ-: Or is what you did enough?
[13:50] <TJ-> Voje: no, LP looks good, but I recommend you subscribe to the bug notification emails to keep informed
[13:52] <Voje> TJ-: Ait. Ty!
[13:52] <TJ-> Voje: I'm testing the fix build in a container; it's only about 10 commands, if you want to do it
[13:53] <MrHall> hello, i have high temperature with ubuntu, i try to reduce that go down cpu frecuency but doesnt work (now is over 60 C), someone know how can i fix this issue?
[13:53] <MrHall> With windows temperature is beetwen 40-60
[13:54] <MrHall> i think its because ubuntu use unity, but i dont know
[13:54] <Voje> TJ-: My understanding is that there where two fixes. One was to disable the connection between MAAS(?) and avahi-daemon, and the other was to remove the rlimits in the avahi config. And that both where valid options?
[13:54] <Voje> I did the last one.
[13:55] <MrHall> Voje: im noob on linux, in my job im using mint
[13:55] <MrHall> and i was thinking install mint too
[13:55] <Voje> TJ-: Or do you recommend me doing the fix?
[13:55] <MrHall> im asking
[13:55] <Voje> MrHall: Sorry, the comment was not coined at you :S
[13:56] <Li> trying to install ubuntu from usb but i'm prompt to grub>
[13:56] <Li> what should I do to fix that and continue the boot up
[13:57] <Li> oh forgot it's sunday
[13:57] <TJ-> Voje: the MAAS fix doesn't apply to you, but this patch removes the internal rlimits for both memory and uids
[13:58] <Voje> TJ-: Ok, so it would be wise you say? Can you send me the commands?
[13:58] <TJ-> Voje: the build is running here in a container; if it is successful I'll pastebin the commands required to replicate it
[13:58] <Voje> TJ-: ty!
[14:07] <kuri0> How can I build Ubuntu from source so I can port it to a new Arch (ILP32)
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> kuri0  better ask in #ubuntu-devel
[14:16] <kuri0> ok
[14:18] <Hell-Razor> So who has pciepassthrough working on ubuntu?
[14:18] <ikonia> thats not an ubuntu-devel question
[14:18] <Hell-Razor> ubuntu-devel?
[14:20] <Darkhunter> Hello, I have two same motherboards with I-219V network adapter. In first mobo everything works smooth and no issues. Second motherboard network works only for the first time then at next start it waits for Raise Network Adapters for like 5 minutes and then there is no connection from that adapter. Sometimes there is a chance that the adapter works but mostly it doesn't. Also there is something wrong with keyboard. It's running lik
[14:20] <Darkhunter> mes faster...But it changes every second. It presses keys many more times than I do...
[14:30] <hfp> Hi, I can't understand why Ubuntu resets my network interfaces metrics constantly. It always makes WiFi higher priority than Ethernet when both are connected... Why would it do that? And how do I fix it?
[14:31] <hfp> Yesterday, I had set once more Ethernet to have metric 100. Now it's back to 600 for WiFi and 20100 (!!!) for Ethernet.
[14:32] <hfp> route: http://termbin.com/algj
[14:33] <shevchuk> anyone using smem? is there a way I can exclude smem process itself from output / total calculations? i.e. when I do `smem -t -P firefox` I get firefox processes and smem process as it has 'firefox' too in its command line
[14:34] <shevchuk> now using sudo smem + user filter, so smem gets run from root and thus gets filtered out, but this seems ugly )
[14:35] <hfp> and now it's back to ethernet 100 and wifi 600. what's going on?
[14:40] <TJ-> Voje: sorry I was so long! took me a while to make the instructions bullet-proof. Give them a read and then ask me any questions before you start. http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/build-avahi.1.log
[14:44] <techeone> hello
[14:47] <edomate> No puedo accesar a mi undidad cifrada con ubuntu mate, alguien puede ayudarme?
[14:48] <ikonia> !es | edomate
[14:49] <edomate> Gracias
[14:51] <mzaza> When I try to call cerbot from a bash script I get an error cerbot: command not found, while I can call it from shell. Any ideas?
[14:52] <TJ-> mzaza: do you mean the certbot for Let's Encrypt?
[14:53] <mzaza> TJ-: yes
[14:54] <mzaza> TJ-: I will just say I am sorry, and I will never ever say how I fixed it :D
[14:54] <mzaza> It's working now.
[15:04] <maryo> Just looking for some guidance in customizing live image of ubuntu by installing certain packages which is needed for us. What is the recommended way to do this?
[15:13] <Voje> TJ-: Wow, that's a solid guide there! Ty! I'll see if I'll get to it later today.
[15:27] <tomkheops> QQQQ
[15:29] <Sven_vB> how can I force fooapp to use my custom foolib.so instead of the default one?
[15:31] <ioria> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH not working ?
[15:32] <Sven_vB> just forgot that keyword, thanks.
[15:32] <ioria> ok
[16:04] <TJ-> I've got the grp:r_win:toggle set as the hotkey for keyboard layout switch; I've accidentally somehow triggered it so it's changed layouts but I cannot seem to get it to change back, is there some trick to the way a 'toggle' is done, or is it simply supposed to be press-and-release to change?
[16:07] <hfp> How do I force Ubuntu to sync time from the ntp server? It's out of sync according to timedatectl
[16:10] <ioria> TJ-, you need to change the layout ?
[16:11] <TJ-> ioria: I've got 2 layouts set; was randomly hitting keys bottom-right of the keyboard and accidentally switched the layout, now I can't on-purpose trigger it to switch again
[16:12] <Mom17ff> hello??
[16:12] <ioria> TJ-, are you on gui or text mode ?
[16:12] <Mom17ff> text.why?
[16:12] <Mom17ff> hello???
[16:13] <TJ-> ioria: GUI
[16:13] <Mom17ff> lazer beams
[16:13] <ioria> TJ-,  you can restore default with   setxkbmap us
[16:14] <Mom17ff> .....i have to goe...
[16:14] <Mom17ff> goodbyeeeeeeeeaa!!
[16:15] <ioria> TJ-,  when you set hotkeys they are tied to the layout, i guess
[16:20] <Darkhunter> Hello, my network stops working after installing nvidia drivers...It sometimes works but it doesn't persist after reboot...
[16:20] <Darkhunter> I don't know what to do...Network adapter is intel 219-v, can somebody help?
[16:21] <TJ-> ioria: fails: "setxkbmap gb mac" => 'Error loading new keyboard description" and I see in /var/log/Xorg.0.log "(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm" and /that/ is because a different naming seems to be used in that directory! "ls /var/lib/xkb/" => server-2B4266AA55228AE7D9557A18F1965DBA19850816.xkm
[16:23] <ioria> TJ-,  i see ...    us works ?
[16:23] <TJ-> ioria: no idea, I don't use US
[16:23] <ioria> TJ-,  yep, it's a try ...
[16:28] <TJ-> ioria: ahhh, it's a bug... I've managed to get it back but still not sure which command did it !
[16:29] <ioria> TJ-,  good .... history :þ
[16:29] <ioria> TJ-,  a malformed  /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/gb   ?
[16:30] <rommel> is it possible to install a variant of ubuntu to another hard drive from within an ubuntu install using chroot
[16:32] <TJ-> ioria: not sure right now, I can't find any errors reported. Both layouts work, but the primary that I accidentially switched away from wasn't returned to whenI pressed the hotkey, and setxkbmap was reporting an error when I passed it the variant
[16:34] <ioria> TJ-,  glad you solved, btw
[16:35] <TJ-> ioria: weird, still reports an error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6yrcmWVZ7S/
[16:36] <TJ-> ioria: which seems to be (from Xorg.0.log) (EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm
[16:36] <Guest11377> hjjjhujn.öjuh
[16:37] <Guest11377> m,mkkkj
[16:37] <ioria> TJ-,  cat /etc/default/keyboard   looks ok ?
[16:37] <Guest11377> jes
[16:37] <Guest11377> xd
[16:38] <TJ-> ioria: ha, it creates then /deletes/ it! https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JvNfdBVGsP/
[16:40] <TJ-> ioria: time for strace i think
[16:40] <ioria> TJ-,  you think that file is the problem ?
[16:44] <Borw3> Hello, I think Ubuntu servers are down again, I can't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.... Keep getting connection Error
[16:45] <Borw3> Here is error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RthkRM7pD5/
[16:46] <dc> hi, anyone aware of pdf viewer that support tabs, pdf, and djvu ?
[16:46] <TJ-> ioria: from the strace it seems setxkbmap writes the map over a the socket (/tmp/.X11-unix/X0) to the X server which must be creating the file, and deleting it. Then setxkbmap tries to open the expected file and it's not there
[16:48] <ioria> TJ-,  you have also  the hard way : sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[16:48] <Borw3> Please somebody help
[16:48] <Borw3> TJ-: Ubuntu proxy server is down again, here is prove, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RthkRM7pD5/
[16:49] <Borw3> TJ-: Please do what you did last time
[16:50] <ioria> TJ-,  but i bet on a config file misconfiguration (=error)
[16:50] <TJ-> Borw3: are you at home trying to access it ?
[16:50] <TJ-> ioria: I'm trying to find a way to further debug it, but now it's over the socket it's much more difficult
[16:51] <Borw3> TJ-: Yes, it was working for everything I tried to dist-upgrade but the 4.13.x kernel part.
[16:52] <TJ-> Borw3: I've just tested that IP address and it's up and working
[16:52] <Borw3> TJ-: Last time it was up and working too on your side, remember last time it was a firefox problem, now its kernel :(
[16:55] <TJ-> Borw3: no, last time the IP address you used failed to respond to my tests but was OK again 10 minutes later
[16:56] <nagyg> hi all
[16:57] <stillunt1tled> hi all
[16:58] <stillunt1tled> nagyg: hi
[16:58] <nagyg> I have an old Ubuntu install on a server which has /boot full now and it needs to be cleaned and then the system needs to be upgraded to a more current one. uname -r shows: 3.13.0-74-generic is used. I removed all linux headers and images older than that (except one). Question is that /boot is still full with linux images _newer_ than 3.13.0-74. Can I remove those as well?
[16:59] <nagyg> the reason I am doing this is because apt-get upgrade shows this: The following packages have unmet dependencies. linux-image-generic-lts-trusty : Depends: linux-image-3.13.0-95-generic but it is not installable
[17:00] <nagyg> hi stillunt1tled
[17:00] <Borw3> I can dist-upgrade anything except that from IP: 91.189.88.152, and I can ping it :(
[17:01] <Borw3> Prove of Ping: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SwXBRKqjnb/
[17:06] <TJ-> Borw3: the Bad Gateway could be sent by a proxy server between you and the Ubuntu server
[17:08] <TJ-> Borw3: I see you're getting it for both the security.ubuntu.com and ppa.launchpad.net connections
[17:13] <ioria> TJ-, if you run  setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout gb       same error ?
[17:18] <TJ-> ioria: ahhh, it needs the model to accept the variant - thanks! This works "sudo setxkbmap -v 10 -model appleali_iso gb mac" ... but inotifywait still shows the generate file being deleted :D So that must be a red herring
[17:18] <ioria> TJ-,  yup
[17:18] <TJ-> ioria: now to get back to the original issue - the hotkey not seeming to work when I want it to :D
[17:20] <TJ-> Oh this makes no sense; right 'Win' key press-release isn't causing a layout change
[17:21] <ioria> TJ-,  Super + space ? (default on unity)
[17:21] <TJ-> anyhow, can't be bothering with this now, I'm back to the required layout so I can carry on without generating the wrong symbols in code!
[17:22] <ioria> oky
[17:22] <TJ-> ioria: not even sure which key 'super' maps to on this keyboard - left Apple/Command key maybe?
[17:23] <Borw3> TJ-: How comes I can download the deb file directly from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-hwe/linux-image-4.13.0-36-generic_4.13.0-36.40~16.04.1_amd64.deb.......
[17:24] <Borw3> ..............but in apt-get dist-upgrade it fails
[17:24] <TJ-> Borw3: I told you, you've got a HTTP proxy in between, is it configured in apt's config or could it be a transparent proxy?
[17:25] <TJ-> Borw3: try searching the apt settings, "grep -rn Proxy /etc/apt/"
[17:25] <Borw3> TJ-: Nothing is configured, its the same way it was since install, no proxy anywhere, I can download the deb file from firefox directly but can't with apt-get dist-upgrade :(
[17:26] <qswz> Is there a way to make "tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness <<< 30" executable without sudo permissions? I'd like to run it from crontab
[17:26] <ioria> TJ-,  Super it's the Win key
[17:26] <TJ-> Borw3: try also "env | grep -i proxy"
[17:26] <qswz> if I put it in sudo crontab -e, it's not working
[17:26] <TJ-> ioria: right, so on the Apple keyboard it'd be the left 'Apple' key
[17:27] <Borw3> TJ-: env | grep -i proxy returns nothing :(
[17:27] <qswz> I'd like the same level of permissions thna xbacklight
[17:27] <qswz> which is non-root
[17:27] <ioria> TJ-,  probably ....
[17:27] <TJ-> Borw3: pastebin the headers the server returns with "wget -S -O /dev/null http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-4.13.0-36-generic_4.13.0-36.40_amd64.deb"
[17:28] <qswz> would it work by putting a script in /usr/bin ?
[17:28] <Borw3> TJ-: Here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V3vmGJqDgP/
[17:30] <TJ-> Borw3: there you go, you are hitting an Akami cache server:  X-Cache-Lookup: MISS from akam-cache-box:800
[17:31] <Borw3> TJ-: But its downloading even with wget.... I don't understand :(
[17:35] <TJ-> Borw3: hmmm, on reearching it, I'm not sure it is an Akami server... the name confuses. I /think/ it's a caching appliance called a cache-box installed, likely by your ISP or one of it's providers
[17:37] <Borw3> TJ-: LOL, but why is wget going ahead with the download and apt-get dist-upgrade keeps missing that package :(
[17:37] <TJ-> Borw3: apt is being told it's a bad gateway, wget isn't
[17:38] <Borw3> TJ-: There is no way of making apt ignore that warning and keep downloading?
[17:42] <TJ-> Borw3: No - the cache-box device is refusing to pass on the request. We can get to see the HTTP headers with apt too, use "sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true ... rest of the command"
[17:43] <nokla2> exit
[17:45] <TJ-> Borw3: whoever your ISP is in Kenya is operating that cache-box; either your ISP or their upstream provider Seacom
[17:47] <TJ-> Borw3: I suspect 'akam-cache-box' is something to do with AKAM (Aga Khan Academy) in Mombasa
[17:49] <tomreyn> so not akamai, where the nasdaq abbreviation is AKAM
[17:49] <tomreyn> but i guess akamai would not expose they're using squid proxy cache if ti was them.
[17:59] <nagyg> hi, I have a dependency problem on an old Ubuntu server: The following packages have unmet dependencies. linux-image-generic-lts-trusty : Depends: linux-image-3.13.0-95-generic but it is not installable
[17:59] <nagyg> apt-cache depends linux-image-generic-lts-trusty says: Depends: linux-image-3.13.0-117-generic
[18:00] <nagyg> and linux-image-3.13.0-95-generic is not listed as available package
[18:00] <nagyg> what can be done in this scenario?
[18:01] <ioria> nagyg, i think you're still on 12.04 precise
[18:01] <nagyg> ioria, yes, exactly
[18:01] <nagyg> this is an old Ubuntu server
[18:01] <nagyg> it was installed like 4 years ago
[18:02] <ioria> nagyg, 12.04 it's no more supported .maybe do-release-upgrade to get 14.04  or fresh install of xenial
[18:03] <nagyg> ioria, yes I'd like to the an upgrade but I don't know if I can do it in this state
[18:03] <nagyg> do you think it worth a shot?
[18:03] <ioria> !info linux-image-3.13.0-95-generic trusty
[18:04] <mdemo> anybody know if ubuntu has had a discussion like the "What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?" thread?
[18:05] <ioria> nagyg, you have no choice , i'am afraid
[18:05] <nagyg> ioria, yep ... thanks anyway
[18:06] <ioria> nagyg, ok
[18:22] <qswz> how does sudo knows what is ~? like sudo ls ~, since sudo is not my user
[18:22] <pcarlino> i've to make a db backup in a command line somebody knows the komand?
[18:24] <qswz> lol
[18:25] <ioc_> qswz, sudo echo ls ~      ~ is expanded by bash and sudo does not see it, as happens e.g. with * and ?
[18:26] <qswz> well, it seems to work
[18:26] <qswz> that's why I was surprised7
[18:26] <qswz> maybe because it's in my session
[18:29] <tomreyn> pcarlino: which database server?
[18:31] <lesshaste> I would like to play a video at x16 speed.. is there a simple way to do that?
[18:34] <pcarlino> tomreyn mysql
[18:34] <qswz> woa.. finally got sudoers thing work
[18:34] <tomreyn> pcarlino: mysqldump then
[18:36] <TheWild> hello
[18:36] <TheWild> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2379358 <- this, exactly
[18:36] <TheWild> which package contains h264dec.h?
[18:39] <qswz> looks like video decoding
[18:39] <qswz> try ffmpeg
[18:40] <OerHeks> !find  h264dec.h
[18:40] <TheWild> ffmpeg is already installed
[18:41] <tomreyn> h264dec.h is a header file, you'd need to have the development / source package installed which provides it
[18:41] <OerHeks> your url shows a libav error
[18:41] <tomreyn> but there doesn't seem to be any package which contains this file in either artful (17.10) or xenial (16.04)
[18:42] <TheWild> yeah, I don't know which package I should install.
[18:43] <TheWild> I need untrunc and I did everything exactly what was in instructions
[18:43] <TheWild> g++ can't compile it because of missing h264dec.h
[18:44] <tomreyn> maybe the instructions were not written for your ubuntu release, or are just wrong, we cannot know.
[18:44] <TheWild> :( :( :( :(
[18:45] <tomreyn> you can always ask the developers of "untrunc" or open a bug report explaining how you followed their instructions and how you could not build the software.
[18:46] <tomreyn> maybe there's also a PPA you could use
[18:48] <lubuntu__> join #lubuntu
[18:48] <lubuntu__> lol. sorry. Is there  a help channel for lubuntu ?
[18:51] <compdoc> join /#lubuntu
[18:51] <compdoc> wait
[18:51] <compdoc> heh
[18:51] <tomreyn> TheWild: https://github.com/ponchio/untrunc/issues/87#issuecomment-369048530
[18:51] <compdoc> would be /join #lubuntu
[18:52] <TheWild> thanks
[18:52] <TheWild> yeah, I will try compiling libavcodec on my own
[18:55] <TJ-> TheWild: h264dec.h is in libavcodec/  - it's a private header, not a part of any public -dev  headers
[18:55] <TheGrumble> doku
[18:56] <TheWild> hmm... maybe no need to recompile, just let the g++ know where to search for headers
[19:00] <arooni> how do i go from moving to a nightly release i.e. https://launchpad.net/~fish-shell/+archive/ubuntu/nightly-master ;; back to regular release?  just delete the ppa?  or some other steps?
[19:02] <mini_bor> can somebody explain why, in the following example, all other users would be deleted when writing a username with space in front of it? https://pastebin.com/Rqb3R2dD
[19:10] <lubuntu__> join /#lubuntu
[19:21] <qswz> it's fun that visudo doesn't use vi
[19:21] <qswz> gosh nano is a pita
[19:30] <osse> qswz: might want to export EDITOR=vim
[19:30] <osse> oops never mind
[19:31] <osse> check what /usr/bin/editor points to
[19:33] <qswz> ah thx
[19:33] <qswz> I've been trying select-editor, but didn't persist
[19:34] <qswz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 févr. 15 13:01 /usr/bin/editor -> /etc/alternatives/editor*
[19:34] <qswz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 févr. 15 13:01 /etc/alternatives/editor -> /bin/nano*
[19:35] <osse> boom
[19:35] <qswz> I do sudo ln -s that to change?
[19:35] <osse> you're supposed to use update-alternatives
[19:36] <osse> but I don't know how to use it :P On my system /etc/alternatives/editor points to a vim. I suppose installing the gvim package did that for me
[19:37] <qswz> I thought sudo select-editor was the wy to go
[19:37] <osse> could be, but /usr/bin/editor is under the control of the alternatives system at least
[19:38] <osse> qswz: try sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[19:40] <qswz> thx, perfect
[19:55] <TheNumb> Hi #
[19:56] <TheNumb> Does the kernel team hang out on irc?
[19:56] <hfp> How can I see what events are triggered when my Thinkpad is docked and undocked? I want to run a script when these events happen. Using 17.10
[19:58] <ioria> hfp, for reference : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopLidAndDockScripts
[20:00] <hfp> ioria: thanks, I was looking on the thinkpad wiki instead :D
[20:00] <ioria> ah
[20:05] <hfp> ioria: Hmmm my thinkpad is docked at the moment, and I don't have the /sys/devices/platform/dock.0/docked file that the example script is referring to
[20:05] <hfp> wait nvm, I have to create it it seems
[20:10] <YADW1> Hello! It's been a couple of days, when I boot the computer the GRUB screen is covered in black dots (just like in this picture https://ubuntu-mate.community/uploads/default/optimized/2X/0/0b2fcf9492492dc699f2823aea2db2473129bd7b_1_690x195.jpg). I'm on Ubuntu 17.10, any ideas for a fix?
[20:12] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1752716
[20:12] <ioria> YADW1, caused by the last grub update , i guess
[20:12] <YADW1> Um. Interesting, so it's not because of something I did.
[20:13] <ioria> nope
[20:13] <YADW1> Thank you, I suppose I'll just have to wait for the next update then.
[20:13] <ioria> yep
[20:30] <devarshi> after removal of anaconda when i try to access $python it throws me this "bash: /home/devarshi/anaconda2/bin/python: No such file or directory"
[20:31] <devarshi> can anyone tell me how to set environment path for this ???
[20:33] <devarshi> ok solved
[20:37] <Scoop7> Hello how can I verify that my swap file is really working ?
[20:39] <arora> Hey, by mistakenly, I had changed gnome terminal preferences and now it wouldn't open, any idea how to reset it?
[20:40] <OerHeks> swapon -s
[20:40] <Scoop7> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[20:41] <OerHeks> arora, check out the ~/.config/ folder for gnome-terminal
[20:41] <OerHeks> remove that folder and restart terminal
[20:42] <arora> OerHeks: There's no gnome-terminal folder
[20:42] <Scoop7> OerHeks https://imgur.com/a/zjXIu
[20:43] <Whiskey> ps aux | awk '{print $6/1024 " MB\t\t" $11}' | grep "./symlinks/MyApp-New$" | sort -n
[20:43] <Whiskey> 80.2656 MB ./symlinks/MyApp-New
[20:43] <Whiskey> How can i only get the numbers before MB ?
[20:43] <Insanity1> arora, you could check if you have a folder .gconf
[20:44] <Insanity1> .gconf/apps/gnome-terminal
[20:44] <hfp> Any idea what is the modern equivalent command for "sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart" on 17.10?
[20:44] <arora> Insanity1: No it's not there either
[20:45] <Scoop7> OerHeks have any ideas ?
[20:45] <Insanity1> That's rather odd
[20:45] <Insanity1> Keep in mind this is a hidden folder
[20:45] <OerHeks> arora, oh right, maybe this page is a help, https://askubuntu.com/questions/852969/how-to-remove-gnome-terminal-profiles-in-16-04-lts
[20:45] <kkremitzki> hfp: sudo systemctl restart hal
[20:45] <OerHeks> just remove the current profile and get the default back
[20:45] <Insanity1> arora, you can also take a look here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/14487/how-to-reset-the-terminal-properties-and-preferences
[20:46] <hfp> kkremitzki: I mean the hal service doesn't exist anymore
[20:46] <OerHeks> Scoop7, stop putting such few lines on imgur.. it looks like swap is working, no?
[20:48] <Scoop7> OerHeks I don't know, may need to force rise the ram usage to test it, but it's a prod server so not sure :/  Also, it's a imgur issue not the users :/
[20:48] <Scoop7> also shouldn't it say type: partition instead of type: file ?
[20:49] <mate-user> hi :)
[20:49] <caution> i have no idea what's taking up 99% of my disc storage on my digital ocean 30 gig droplet
[20:49] <mate-user> vote for your distro here https://strawpoll.com/sheypwzd :)
[20:49] <OerHeks> as of 17.04 ubuntu comes with a swapfile, so i guess it is ok
[20:50] <caution> can somebody help me find out?
[20:50] <RaDBiT> exit
[20:50] <Scoop7> OerHeks it's a 16.04 LTS ubuntu that I've set up on AWS EC2 instance, I've manually set up the swapfile as well
[20:50] <OerHeks> caution, we cannot, but you can check the admin login
[20:51] <brainwash> hfp: then why do you have to restart it?
[20:51] <arora> Thanks OerHeks Insanity1 fixed it with $gnome-terminal -- /bin/sleep 1000, then reverted broken preferences
[20:51] <caution> admin login?
[20:51] <OerHeks> Scoop7, you you ask me why it is swapfile, as you set that yourself
[20:51] <arora> Thanks OerHeks Insanity1 fixed it with $gnome-terminal -- /bin/sleep 1000, then reverted broken preferences
[20:51] <OerHeks> great
[20:51] <arora> Thanks OerHeks Insanity1 fixed it with $gnome-terminal -- /bin/sleep 1000, then reverted broken preferences
[20:51] <ioria> it's a bot
[20:51] <arora> Oops, sorry for that
[20:51] <OerHeks> arora, have fun :-)
[20:52] <arora> ioria: xD
[20:52] <ioria> lol
[20:53] <Insanity1> Glad that it's fixed
[20:54] <Scoop7> OerHeks can't you just whip up some magical command which would check if it's working and directly answer it and if not - it would fix it and inform it ?
[20:54] <caution> how do i remove unused packages?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> caution: See whewre the disk space is consumed; pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ' .
[20:55] <MeaCulpa> caution sudo apt purge 'package' and sudo apt remove 'package without quotes
[20:56] <caution> i did 'sudo apt-get autoremove' which seems to have recoverd 500mb
[20:56] <caution> chicken feed :(
[20:57] <MeaCulpa> have you ever seen 550 M of wheat grains :)
[20:57] <MeaCulpa> quite a big chicken
[20:58] <caution> '/dev/vda1        30G   27G  2.3G  93% /'
[20:58] <Scoop7> caution what are you running there?
[20:58] <caution> no way to find out which directoris are taking up most space?
[20:59] <TJ-> caution: "sudo du -h -d 2 / "
[20:59] <MeaCulpa> do ll /
[20:59] <caution> Scoop7: what was suggested above: 'df -h ; df -i'
[21:00] <caution> that was just a line from teh actual output
[21:00] <Scoop7> my wild guess would be - log files or releases pi
[21:00] <Scoop7> pilling up
[21:01] <caution> 3.9G	/var/log
[21:01] <caution> :)
[21:02] <caution> can just do 'rm /var/log/*' on this sucker?
[21:02] <TJ-> caution: No! you'll upset things
[21:02] <caution> whats the safest way?
[21:02] <TJ-> caution: you can remove the archived/compressed log files though the xxxxx.Y.gz files
[21:03] <caution> command for that is?
[21:03] <TJ-> caution: well first check which files you want to remove (by size I guess): : "ls -laSr /var/log/"
[21:04] <caution> what do you mean check? are they any critical system files in that dir i should be aware of when deleting?
[21:04] <caution> there*
[21:04] <TJ-> caution: then you can do "sudo rm /var/log/<filename>" to remove
[21:05] <TJ-> caution: the xxxxx.Y.gz files have been archived and are no longer in-use, only the files ending ".log" are in-use (and 'syslog', wtmp, lastlog, and a few othes with no .extension)
[21:06] <caution> here is the output https://pastebin.com/miNGxCgF
[21:07] <caution> Tj: do you have the command to remove these so called 'xxxxx.Y.gz' files?
[21:08] <TJ-> caution: ahhhh! it's the /active/ logs using the space and I can tell why; you've got UFW (firewall) logging and it's messages also get written to syslog and kern.log --- try reducing the amount of logging UFW is doing
[21:08] <TJ-> caution: you don't have any archived logs, your problem is that UFW is writing megabytes of log entries into the active files
[21:09] <caution> TJ: ok, help me fix this (if there is one)
[21:09] <TJ-> caution: see "man ufw" and the 'logging' command
[21:10]  * certifie is listening to - Kryptic Void_spectrolite.mp3
[21:10] <ikonia> certifie: please disable that
[21:11] <random-6881> Hi, please I want to ask about how I can export environment variables from a bash script ?
[21:11] <ikonia> export VARIABLE=$something
[21:11] <ikonia> also the #bash channel
[21:12] <caution> TJ: what can I do about it?
[21:12] <caution> what options do i have?
[21:13] <random-6881> I know about the export command but a bash script is executed in it's own environment so all the changes doesn't apply in the terminal, but that's what I want
[21:13] <certifie> whats does GA stands for in GA kernel?
[21:13] <TJ-> caution: you need to reduce or disable the logging; it depends on why you have so much logging. You should be reading the log files to see what is being logged and react accordingly
[21:13] <TJ-> certifie: General Availability
[21:14] <ikonia> random-6881: I'm not sure what you are asking, if you set something in the running shell, it will be in that shell unti it exits, if you want help with bash scripting try the #bash channel
[21:14] <TJ-> random-6881: not possible; the child shell executing the script cannot affect it's parent's environment
[21:14] <certifie> like whats that supposed to mean?
[21:14] <caution> TJ: according to this output, it seems to be "low" https://pastebin.com/03WL0Lai
[21:15] <JonelethIrenicus> when did ubuntu drop unity 7?
[21:15] <JonelethIrenicus> was it 17.10?
[21:15] <TJ-> caution: that's good in one way, but worrying if UFW is the cause of syslog getting so big. Check what's in syslog. "tail -f /var/log/syslog" to see ongoing messages as they arrive
[21:15] <compdoc> the next release for sure
[21:16] <hfp> Anybody managed to get the docking/undocking script method to work at all on 17.10? I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopLidAndDockScripts but it doesn't do anything at all
[21:16] <TJ-> caution: "less /var/log/syslog" to read the file without it growing - press G to goto end of file, g to goto start of file
[21:17] <caution> 3.2G /var/log/syslog
[21:17] <random-6881> Ok I'll try the bash channel thanks !
[21:20] <certifie> orange is the new black
[21:20] <caution> TJ: https://pastebin.com/kMivQQLY
[21:24] <caution> any suggestions?
[21:25] <certifie> caution: why arent you on ipv6?
[21:26] <caution> thats not important right now
[21:26] <caution> but noted
[21:26] <rkantos_> Anyone got a tip on how to locate which program has prompted in Ubuntu Mate? The Window doesn't have info that would lead to the correct program...
[21:26] <certifie> ipv6 is sooo much more secure
[21:27] <caution> well, at present there isn't much to secure :)
[21:28] <caution> '/var/log/syslog' seems to be growing exponentially
[21:28] <ioc_> rkantos_, you have a window by an unknown program? xprop (then select the window) or: xlsclients
[21:28] <caution> its size currently is 3.2G
[21:29] <rkantos_> ioc_: exactly! thanks!
[21:29] <caution> culprit seems to be ufw_block
[21:30] <certifie> send it to /dev/null
[21:31] <ioc_> caution, the nuber in brackets is the timestamp (seconds since the system was booted) and SYN means connection attempt
[21:31] <caution> i need a solution not an explanation of the output
[21:31] <certifie> dont you find strange that you got miliseconds?
[21:32] <certifie> but dont have milli minuts
[21:33] <certifie> how many seconds do you have on a milihour?
[21:34] <caution> is this normal behaviour for ufw?
[21:35] <certifie> i gont all my log files redireted to googledrive
[21:35] <TJ-> caution: yes, as I said you need to either reduce or disable UFW logging. I don't use it so not sure if you can stop it logging SYN attempts but log other more important things
[21:35] <certifie> create a simlink
[21:36] <certifie> you could use log rotate
[21:36] <certifie> https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/5-logrotate.conf/
[21:36] <certifie> have fun
[21:37] <certifie> and RTFM
[21:37] <caution> TJ: done, now how do i safely reduce the size of the syslog?
[21:37] <caution> its almost 4gig
[21:38] <certifie> rm -f
[21:38] <caution> is that safe?
[21:39] <certifie> yes if you use caution
[21:39] <TJ-> caution: try forcing rotation: "sudo /usr/sbin/logrotate --force /etc/logrotate.conf"
[21:39] <u0_a271> hi
[21:39] <caution> what do that command do?
[21:39] <caution> does*
[21:39] <caution> TJ
[21:40] <TJ-> certifie: then check /var/log/ see if the current syslog is now syslog.1  (you can tell by file size)
[21:40] <TJ-> grrr
[21:40] <TJ-> caution: then check /var/log/ see if the current syslog is now syslog.1  (you can tell by file size)
[21:40] <caution> what i'm i doin with that command?
[21:40] <TJ-> caution: I said above ^^ forcing rotation of the logs
[21:41] <certifie> https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/5-logrotate.conf/
[21:41] <caution> not familar with the terminology
[21:41] <certifie> its self explanatory
[21:41] <gelswip> if you're not sure what a command does you can run 'man <command>'. for logrotate: https://linux.die.net/man/8/logrotate
[21:41] <ioc_> (another reason is space is freed when all processes close the file, so the daemon needs to close it somehow after rm)
[21:42] <gelswip> oh he already linked the manpage
[21:42] <TJ-> caution: log files get 'rotated' out from the in-use file to archived copies either when they get to a certain size or after a certain time, first the file is renamed to XXXX.1 then next time it gets named XXXX.2 and compressed so it becomes XXXX.2.gz
[21:42] <caution> ah
[21:42] <certifie> sorry i dont have such cool domain name has yours
[21:42] <certifie> has/as
[21:45] <caution> TJ: https://pastebin.com/jg4XysP1
[21:46] <TJ-> caution: hmm, looks like you found a bug in the mysql package!
[21:47]  * certifie hnads caution a cookie
[21:47] <certifie> hnads/hands
[21:49] <TJ-> caution: that appears to be a common error, and could be caused if the system has mariadb installed instead of the real mysqldb - but there are other reasons too
[21:50] <caution> i don't recall install any packages of that. I do have mysql installed
[21:50] <caution> installing*
[21:50] <caution> that name*
[21:50] <caution> grrr
[21:50] <MeaCulpa> certifie you get 60^3 seconds in a millihour
[21:51] <MeaCulpa> that ought to simplify things for you
[21:51] <certifie> very much
[21:52] <MeaCulpa> thinking seriously of getting certified myself, can't give up playing mines
[21:52] <certifie> certified nuts
[21:53] <certifie> :)
[21:53] <MeaCulpa> it's taught me the error of my ways playing lotto
[21:54] <certifie> lotus
[21:54] <TJ-> caution: can't reproduce it here with mysql-server. Which Ubuntu release is it "cat /etc/issue"  ?
[21:54] <caution> TJ Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS \n \l
[21:55] <certifie> im glad all cars are going to be selfdriven that way everyone will just take the already availble autodriven bus
[21:56] <MeaCulpa> hope they don't use linux to control them
[21:56] <MeaCulpa> might apt update a day too late
[21:56] <certifie> no they use windows xp
[21:56] <MeaCulpa> lol
[21:56] <TJ-> caution: same here, which mysql do you have? " dpkg -l 'mysql*' | grep ^ii "
[21:57] <MeaCulpa> I wish someone would rewrite hexchat so you could cut and paste from the window
[21:57] <caution> TJ https://pastebin.com/G1KdGmtE
[21:57] <MeaCulpa> says a lot for irssi I guess
[21:58] <TJ-> caution: this is what I see http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cGzT3HvZTR/
[21:59] <TJ-> caution: so there must be something different in your configuration of mysqlserver causing that; I believe it's related to the password for accessing mysql, did you set/change one when installing it, or afterwards?
[21:59] <caution> i did modify the setting so i will not have to enter password to connect
[22:00] <caution> in my local machine
[22:00] <guiverc> MeaCulpa, use ctrl+ins to 'copy from window' (hexchat)
[22:01] <certifie> i always ssh to my local machine
[22:01] <certifie> cause its more fun that way
[22:01] <TJ-> caution: if you changed it on the server then from what I read you'd need to update the config file with the password, or something like that.
[22:01] <MeaCulpa> quiverc: thanks very much
[22:01] <caution> what if i temporarily disable mysql?
[22:01] <caution> will it work?
[22:01] <TJ-> caution: anyhow, besides that issue, did you check if the logrotate moved that very large /var/log/syslog to be /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[22:02] <caution> TJ: it appears so
[22:02] <guntbert> !ot > certifie
[22:02] <caution> i see 'syslog.1'
[22:03] <caution> TJ: is it safe to remove syslog.1?
[22:03] <caution> syslog is 0
[22:03] <caution> syslog.1 is 3.2 gig
[22:04] <certifie> cant join  #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:04] <TJ-> caution: Yes :) now you can safely "sudo rm /var/log/syslog.1"
[22:04] <guntbert> certifie: you need to be registered there
[22:04] <TJ-> caution: and make a note to investigate the mysql logrotate issue
[22:05] <certifie> you dont say
[22:05] <caution> ok, its gone down to 82% over disk space
[22:05] <caution> overall disk space*
[22:05] <TJ-> caution: you might want to re-chec the 'du' list to hunt for anything else taking up too much space: "sudo du -d 2 / | sort -n" will generate a sorted list with biggest last
[22:07] <codebam> hey could someone help me with these apt dependency errors? https://ptpb.pw/rekI/text
[22:07] <codebam> I tried apt -f install already
[22:07] <certifie> logrotate -f -s /dev/null
[22:08] <caution> 1.2G	/var
[22:08] <codebam> certifie: this just showed usage of the command logrotate
[22:09] <certifie> how big did you make your vm?
[22:09] <caution> 1.8G	/usr
[22:09] <TJ-> codebam: have you done "sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade" to ensure libssl1.0.0is up to date ?
[22:09] <codebam> TJ-: about 20 mins ago, but I can try again
[22:09] <certifie> sorry im running windows 10
[22:09] <caution> ah '14G	/opt/tomcat'
[22:09] <caution> found some even big
[22:09] <codebam> yeah no updates TJ-
[22:09] <TJ-> caution: those loook like good figure... but /opt/tomcat is large, what've you got in there!?
[22:09] <caution> 14G	/opt/tomcat
[22:09] <caution> TJ: right
[22:10] <caution> TJ: give me some commands to find out :)
[22:11] <MeaCulpa> does anyone know of a program that lets you enter text in pdf forms?
[22:11] <TJ-> caution: hey! you installed it, you should know what you're doing :P
[22:11] <MeaCulpa> meaning fill them out
[22:11] <caution> maybe its the logs
[22:11] <caution> (again)
[22:11] <TJ-> caution: presumably you installed some Java web-apps for tomcat? maybe you left it open to the world and someone has found a way to upload files to it?
[22:12] <TJ-> caution: you can keep using the 'du' command with deeper paths to find out where the space is used, e.g. "sudo du -d 3 /opt/tomcat | sort -n"
[22:13] <caution> 13459540	/opt/tomcat/logs
[22:13] <codebam> anyone have any ideas? I really dont care what it removes to get them to install, but I think it might have to do with ubuntu specific packages
[22:13] <certifie> you got love linux cammands flags
[22:13] <TJ-> caution: that might suggest you left it open to the world and it's being used/attacked/whatever
[22:13] <certifie> they use most of the alphabet
[22:14] <caution> TJ: i have a firewall
[22:14] <TJ-> certifie: it's much better than trying to point at random pixels in a GUI :)
[22:14] <TJ-> caution: maybe, but was it protecting tomcat?
[22:14] <kostkon> codebam, apt-cache policy python-dev libssl-dev
[22:14] <TJ-> caution: check the tomcat logs, find out what it is recording, don't just delete its logs
[22:15] <codebam> kostkon: https://ptpb.pw/JHca
[22:15] <certifie> whay better thats why all the people do it
[22:16] <acheronuk> codebam: have you disabled update repos?
[22:16] <codebam> acheronuk: um not sure
[22:16] <kostkon> codebam, same for libssl1.0.0 libpython-dev python2.7-dev?
[22:16] <acheronuk> codebam: and you are in 16.04?
[22:17] <certifie> i mean bllions of people that use linux command line cant be wrong
[22:17] <gsmarquis> When placing blank media in DVD burner I get constant message ..... already mounted.
[22:18] <acheronuk> codebam: 1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.6 is a version from a previous security update
[22:18] <acheronuk> codebam: 1.0.2g-1ubuntu4 is the original 16.04 version
[22:19] <caution> TJ check all this line by line? https://pastebin.com/fXqsGPwA
[22:19] <codebam> acheronuk: I'm on 16.04.1
[22:19] <codebam> just checked with lsb_release
[22:22] <Bashing-om> codebam:  Hint: " sysop@x1604:~$ lsb_release -a >> Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS " .
[22:22] <codebam> oh, how do I update to .4
[22:23] <certifie> use apt command
[22:23] <codebam> what apt command?
[22:23] <certifie> aka advanced presistent threat
[22:23] <Bashing-om> codebam: Fo not know that it will fix yoyr dependency issue, but needs doing ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[22:23] <codebam> I did a dist-upgrade earlier and it didn't do anything
[22:24] <acheronuk> what is relevant here is that you need the security/update repos enabled
[22:24] <codebam> Bashing-om: full-upgrade didn't do anything
[22:24] <Bashing-om> codebam: pastebin for us ' sudo apt update ' .
[22:24] <codebam> acheronuk: can I have that?
[22:25] <MeaCulpa> could someone explain the difference between apt update and apt upgrade please
[22:25] <codebam> Bashing-om: https://ptpb.pw/dThW
[22:25] <certifie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade
[22:26] <certifie> some one read that and give me the anser pls
[22:26] <codebam> MeaCulpa: update updates your package lists (versions and where to get them), upgrade actually downloads and installs the packages that can be upgraded
[22:26] <MeaCulpa> codeebam thanks
[22:26] <codebam> np
[22:26] <MeaCulpa> codebam :)
[22:26] <caution> actually catalina.out seems to be the largest
[22:27] <sneakyimp> does anyone know who to speak to about the node-uglify package?
[22:27] <certifie> nothing better then to read ubuntu foruns to search for questions to aks in this channel
[22:27] <certifie> aks/ask
[22:28] <MeaCulpa> I'd like two dollars for everytime I visited ask ubuntu
[22:28] <acheronuk> codebam: re-enable recommended and security updates repos https://i.imgur.com/BjVEymc.png
[22:29] <codebam> acheronuk: this is a server, I don't have gui access, could you pastebin me your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[22:30] <certifie> i ear mp3 pluggins arent ugly anymore
[22:30] <sneakyimp> can someone tell me how my name appears to them here? I'm using pidgin for IRC chat and haven't quite got the hang of it yet
[22:30] <TJ-> codebam: it should have lines for $RELEASE  $RELEASE-updates $RELEASE-security
[22:31] <TJ-> codebam: see /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[22:35] <acheronuk> codebam: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s538V3qR46/
[22:35] <MeaCulpa> is it possible to pipe cat through grep,
[22:36] <certifie> what kind of question is that^?
[22:36] <MeaCulpa> reasonable short one
[22:36] <MeaCulpa> :)
[22:36] <MeaCulpa> I just tried and it didn't work
[22:36] <codebam> TJ-: that says trusty main restricted?
[22:36] <codebam> or did you mean the link
[22:37] <codebam> thanks acheronuk
[22:37] <acheronuk> codebam: xenial-updates and xenial-security lines are needed
[22:37] <TJ-> codebam: it's an /example/ ... replace trusty with the actual release
[22:37] <certifie> cat foo |grep foobar
[22:37] <MeaCulpa> I was trying to look for some text in a file
[22:38] <MeaCulpa> thought cat would do it
[22:38] <codebam> TJ-: this is my current sources.list? is this right? https://ptpb.pw/izNh
[22:39] <codebam> because with that I don't have any updates
[22:39] <certifie> whats doesent?
[22:40] <TJ-> codebam: in your sources.list you've got deb-src entries for the source packages from -updates and -security but no deb entries for the binaries!
[22:40] <acheronuk> codebam: you wouldn't. you only have deb-src lines for updates
[22:41] <acheronuk> your server must have had them at some point, as otherwise there would not be the current version mismatch
[22:41] <codebam> awesome I think I fixed it
[22:41] <codebam> not sure who did this to the server, but it seems like it's all good now
[22:42] <acheronuk> :)
[22:42] <codebam> thanks TJ- and acheronuk :)
[22:42] <TJ-> l
[22:42] <TJ-> codebam: this is wat you need https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mcHxVJnPfH/
[22:48] <codebam> thanks TJ-, changed it just now
[22:49] <caution> TJ: /dev/vda1        30G   11G   19G  38% /
[22:49] <caution> after emptying out catalina.out log in inside tomcat
[22:49] <caution> single file took 12 gig
[22:50] <caution> now my disk size look somewhat normal :)
[22:50] <caution> thanks
[22:50] <caution> out
[23:05] <Tonnercolor> hi does sombody knows why when i call my  phpmyadmin the page appears like simple html without buttons¨¨
[23:22] <akem> Hey.
[23:22] <tomreyn> Tonnercolor: no, how could we, you provided no details. we could guess, thoguh: somethign is configured incorrectly.
[23:23] <tomreyn> hi akem, got any ubuntu support questions?
[23:24] <Tonnercolor> tomreyn i had installed apache2, mysql, php  and phpmyadmin. it's a new install
[23:24] <tomreyn> Tonnercolor: on which ubuntu release? what do the log files say?
[23:25] <Tonnercolor> ubuntu 16.04
[23:25] <OerHeks> Tonnercolor, what guide did you follow? one needs to do a few steps after install.. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-on-ubuntu-16-04
[23:25] <Tonnercolor> tomreyn ubuntu 16.04 lts 64 bits
[23:26] <tomreyn> Tonnercolor: okay, fully updated then? then lsb_release -ds would say so
[23:26] <certifie> what does g stands for in gtreamer?
[23:26] <tomreyn> well it would list the latest point release
[23:26] <OerHeks> g-gnome most likely
[23:27] <Tonnercolor> 0erHeks thanks
[23:27] <Tonnercolor> OerHeks thanks
[23:27] <certifie> ubuntu is gmone based also
[23:28] <certifie> gubuntu
[23:30] <kostkon> certifie, ubuntu-gnome?
[23:30] <certifie> if only kmplayer worked on linux
[23:31] <kostkon> certifie, try gmplayer
[23:31] <OerHeks> gnome-mpv, gives me good result and control
[23:31] <certifie> and it also got an app for android to see 3d movies
[23:31] <bazhang> certifie, kmplayer works and is the repos
[23:32] <certifie> http://www.kmplayer.com/
[23:32] <OerHeks> !info kmplayer
[23:32] <certifie> I beg to differ
[23:32] <bazhang> certifie, thats not where to install it from
[23:32] <certifie> thats not the same app
[23:32] <certifie> only windows and mac version
[23:33] <bazhang> certifie, we support repo apps, why bring something else up here
[23:33] <certifie> because its the best media player i found so far
[23:34] <certifie> maybe it works on wine
[23:34] <bazhang> certifie, then install it from the repos, but it's smplayer if you want a gui for mplayer
[23:35] <bazhang> certifie, wine is not needed for apps from the ubuntu repo
[23:35] <certifie> bazhang: its not kmplayer from linux
[23:35] <bazhang> certifie, again why bring it up here, we dont support it, and it's not topical here
[23:35] <certifie> already stated it only works on windows and mac
[23:35] <certifie> because its the best media player i found so far
[23:36] <certifie> o recon K stands for korea
[23:36] <bazhang> certifie, thats fine, but please take the offtopic chatter elsewhere
[23:41] <Rukus> hey everyone, quick question, i have gnome desktop, and terminal and calculator do not have an icon ... its the purple gear one.
[23:41] <Rukus> Whats up with that?
[23:42] <Rukus> software update too, and a couple others
[23:45] <guiverc> Rukus, what theme & icon-set are you using?  the icon-set you are using may not have a icon for them  (note: i'm no expert)
[23:45] <tomreyn> Rukus: when did this break? did it ever look properly? is this a new install?
[23:47] <Rukus> tomreyn, like this since new install
[23:47] <Rukus> guiverc, default afaik lemme look
[23:47] <tomreyn> Rukus: which ubuntu release is this? lsb_release -ds
[23:47] <Rukus> 17.10
[23:48] <tomreyn> were there errors during installation?
[23:48] <Rukus> no
[23:48] <tomreyn> do you have nvidia graphics?
[23:48] <Rukus> intel
[23:49] <tomreyn> hmm maybe post a screen shot then
[23:49] <tomreyn> !paste
[23:49] <tomreyn> !screenshots
[23:49] <certified> nuke me?
[23:50] <tomreyn> this is a mostly peaceful ubuntu support channel
[23:51] <tomreyn> Rukus: sorry, I got to go, but maybe someone else will look into it if you post a screenshot and repeat the issue.
[23:53] <Rukus> tomreyn,  https://imgur.com/a/ckAgz
[23:53] <Rukus> it doesnt bother me too much. maybe if i learned to theme, but i don't care to
[23:53] <certified> whats the onion adress of freenode?
[23:55] <bazhang> certified, please ask that in #freenode
[23:58] <certified> yes wrong window