[00:52] <ubptgbot> Wuffz was added by: Wuffz
 @Wuffz, Hi @Wuffz.  Welcome to the UBports community!  Here is a link to get you started: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 snapping everything? that sounds like what the snapcrafters do :3
 Huh?
 Only snapping is from turtles
 Hey
 I llike snap
 [Edit] I like snap
 (Sticker, 512x450) https://irc.ubports.com/JJM00xY5.webp
 I use snaps ever it's possible
 @JoshuaAshton oh no
 Hi Sam
 Was just gonna tag you
 :p
 what
 I know Sam
[04:15] <ubptgbot> btskyy was added by: btskyy
 Hey Ben! Check out our welcome page and very sure to join our Welcome & Install channel if you're interested in installing Ubuntu Touch! You literally caught me just as I was going to bed so I won't be able to answer any questions until tomorrow, though I'm sure someone else can once people start waking up in a few hours. Go
[04:24] <ubptgbot> od night, good morning, or good afternoon wherever you are! Good night for me!
 Here is our welcome page: https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @Stereofont, PL +1
[07:08] <ubptgbot> atemps was added by: atemps
 @atemps, Welcome!
 @atemps, Artem, here is an intro to UBports https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 We also have language groups, if that is relevant to you?
 @UniversalSuperBox, it's a group that make snaps afaik
 they call themselves the ”ｓｎａｐｃｒａｆｔｅｒs"
 Probably the solution now for a business to use a UBports phone and to meet GDPR requirements is to have the client info in a server (GDPR complaince).
 OpenVPN, web brower (https), ssh, etc to access the data in the server. A script deleting the cache would be nice.
[11:21] <ubptgbot> Marcin Flotyński was added by: Marcin Flotyński
 @Marcin Flotyński, Hi Marcin, you may want start here: https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/ITnB7tS8.webp
 wasn't there a an app or scope for quick commands?
 @advocatux, wasn't there a an app or scope for quick commands?
 https://open-store.io/app/scriptor.newparadigmsoftware ?
 thank you captain 😃
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/3SW4blAZ.webp
 @DanChapman, trying to install busybox as instructed, but both the Download Binary button and the Download button don't seem to do anything?
 @YougoChats, Dan 'the Captain' Chapman... Not bad.
 capt'n chapm'n
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/l0Kok85R.mp4
 @YougoChats, Nice nice nice! Who are you and where did you study! Put Hugo on my approved list
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/WBfohaT0.mp4
 @YougoChats, 😆
 I just installed LibreOffice with Libertine but it won't open. Am I skipping a step somewhere?
[13:09] <ubptgbot> Marcel was added by: Marcel
 Welcome Marcel! Be sure to check out our Telegram welcome page linked below and join our Welcome & Install channel!
 https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @AmolithSeregion, I've install that xbill, LibreOffice, and VLC. None of them open and run; I get the splash screen and then it goes back to the scope.
 @AmolithSeregion, on the N5 Liberite doesn't work. How are you trying to open it?
 @TronFortyTwo, That was the whole reason I wanted UT. Damn it. I'm trying to open it with the Libertine scope.
 @AmolithSeregion, So are you on the N5?
 @TronFortyTwo, Yes I am
 @AmolithSeregion, Then you want just to wait fot Xenial😔
 @TronFortyTwo, Any idea when it will be stable ENOUGH for daily use? Also, how would I run `apt autoremove` to remove the deps of LibreOffice and VLC?
 Actually I heard that if you don't use Libertine but another chroot container it will work
 @TronFortyTwo, I don't even know what chroot really is lol. Could you point to something that I can read to figure it out and see what's available?
 is there a bq e5 specific group?
 @AmolithSeregion, I don't know. It's just something I heard idk where. Someone else may know
 @YougoChats, Chapman was faster answering you the other question 👍 … About bq e5, there is not a specific group but maybe we can help you here or in the forum
 well, not me but @Popesz.
 his e5 has battery problems
 htop shows sull swap (and 2 or 3 cpu ?!)
 [Edit] htop shows full swap (and 2 or 3 cpu ?!)
 i dont have an e5 so i don't know what's normal for it
 Can you link to the place where he's talking about that?
 Oh I see, it's in the UB Welcome & Install
 That's a good place for that
 @AmolithSeregion, Well, if you want to just get rid of libertine, you can probably just destroy the container
 there is some weird issue that causes xmir to crash on the n5
 i don't know what exactly though
 (Photo, 540x731) https://irc.ubports.com/rtx0PM20.png
 sorry, mistake
 @dohbee, I hadn't thought of that. Just to be sure, destroying the container will remove all of the dependencies and installed applications within that container?
 It will destroy the container yes
 `libertine-container-manager destroy -i container_name`
[14:31] <ubptgbot> ioannesandreas was added by: ioannesandreas
 it will cease to be a container
 an ex-container
 it won't vroom even if you put four million volts through it
 @dohbee, Lol
[15:19] <ubptgbot> eddysm10 was added by: eddysm10
 hi how can i port this operating system to my device, mediatek 6582 with 1 gb of ram i currently manage to port android nougat and it works but i want ubuntu
 @eddysm10 it's possible, but not going to be an easy ride
 Does anyone else use Seabass?
 @Marcin Flotyński, Marcin, may I ask what is your first language?
 @AmolithSeregion, The fish? They are tasty.
 Not the world's best known browser
 @AmolithSeregion, no. but I use this regularly: … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaBus
 @wayneoutthere, haha
 nice, nice.  Another canadian
 have you ridden El Bus Du Sea?
 @AmolithSeregion, I tried
 @dohbee do you know why Android properties were used to enable things like SSH?
 sees "copyright 2013 Canonical"
 ohhhhh
 lol
 @AmolithSeregion, I use it for texts on my Nexus 5 when I'm not on desktop mode,why?
 Context: It probably came from Ubuntu for Android
 @UniversalSuperBox, i don't
 We were able to reason out that it's probably a leftover from Ubuntu for Android that was carried around for a long time
 It makes sense in the context of "The only persistent storage we can rely on is in Android properties"
 well maybe to keep things consistent too, because we have to use that for some android things, no?
 mtp and usb, yes
 er
 mtp, adb, and some other things.
 right
 And it can enable ssh without `sudo`. Which really doesn't matter to us at this moment.
 @NotKit, please tell me how
 @eddysm10, i recommend you join @halium
 thanks
 @eddysm10, To try to understand the porting process you should start reading https://docs.halium.org/en/latest/ and this https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html As you can see is a hard process
 Do it before joining @halium people there are pretty busy
 were there any official device based on 6582?
 @advocatux, okok I'm gona read
 or I confuse with 6580
 eddysm10, did you port Nougat yourself or installed existing ROM?
 @NotKit, Hmm I think bq e4.5 is that
 i think a lot of phones are
 @YougoChats, Full swap is normal on the E5 and E4.5 - they have only 1 Gig and UT is not optimized for that RAM size
 You will also face app unloading quite often, even unity unloading or rebooting oocurs 😆
 and there's very little swap anyway, no?
 so honestly the problem is that mt6582 devices would require too much dev effort for little benefit
 @dohbee, Yes its a "pseudo swap" 😆
 that and the closed sources, I believe
 closed things is a problem with any android device, really
 while it's good to point out reality, let's not discourage people from porting if it's possible. some regions of the world don't necessarily have access to high end phones that are easier to port to, or for any reasonable cost even if they can get one
 Of course, but it's best to be realistic about how the porting process works
[18:24] <ubptgbot> Daniel was added by: Daniel
 can be realistic without being discouraging though, is what i was saying.
 ie, instead of "it's not worth the effort" and such, say "it's going to be very difficult due to lack of kernel sources, vendor tree, etc… and we will try to help you if we can"
 @NotKit, myself using guide of mtkroms.com
 from source code?
 or by swapping files?
[19:35] <ubptgbot> Ammar was added by: Ammar
 Ubuntu touch for kenzo?
 @Daniel, Hello Daniel (and also Good day @eddysm10, Gennadii, @ioannesandreas, Ammar ! ) !  Welcome to the UBports community.  Here is a nice link to help you get started: https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 @dohbee, I agree with you but just for the record, I've never said something like "it's not worth the effort"
 @advocatux, i didn't say you did
 you weren't the only person who said something at that time ;)
 👍
 thank you wayne!
[21:08] <ubptgbot> Squish :3 was added by: Squish :3
[21:09] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Hello? Good night to most of you. Can anyone help me? it's about the installation process
[21:09] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> sorry to bother but i have searched everywhere and i cant find an answer
 @Squish :3, Why don’t you write what the problem is. Then if someone can help, they will
[21:19] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Oh alright. So i am trying to update from the Canonical image to UBPorts one. I installed all drivers including adb and the UBportsInstaller doesnt recognize the phone nor does the phone communicate through adb even though developer mode is enabled. What do? Switched usb ports,cables, reinstalled multiple versions of UBPortsInstal
[21:19] <ubptgbot> ler,reinstalled drivers...
 have you tried the install and welcome room?
[21:21] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I have no idea on how to get there
[21:21] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> im using telegram on the desktop
 have you gone to the welcome page link?
 start here: https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 Please tell me … Ubuntu touch can run qt applications, install deb packages?
[21:23] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere thank you
 @Squish :3, np!  pasting links is a skill I'm good at
 @chronosmsx, the UI is based on qt. it is not designed around installing debs. you can use libertine to run traditional PC apps via debs
[21:24] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere 😆 Its just im completely lost as i have installed UBPort's version of Ubuntu Touch previously and now i cant for some god damned reason
 @eddysm10, anyway, Halium won't help you much for this device I fear. What you could try in theory is porting changes (driver patches, apparmor backports and defconfig) from BQ E5/E4.5 Ubuntu Touch kernel source code onto your device one, then trying to run with system.img from their Ubuntu Touch firmware.
 @Squish :3, that... is interesting.  i would recommend you hang out in the install room for help.  these guys are so nice and patient...
[22:33] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @wayneoutthere Already did that. At the end i was reccomended a virtual box installation. Wich is even more complicated.
 You're on windows, right?
 Squish :3
[22:47] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Yes
 Does the phone show up on Device Manager?
[22:48] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Yes
[22:48] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Is correctly identified as Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition
 hmm
[22:49] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I'm not sure what's wrong,since i have done this before.
 Yea I remember that
[22:49] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Did all i did before on windows10, but now on 7.
[22:49] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> And the Installer prompts the insertion of usb cable
[22:50] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> And you know how the phone is supposed to notify you if you wanna communicate with the pc through adb?
 Have you tried manually selecting the device in the installer, than booting into fastboot mode
[22:50] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @seshpenguin Yes. Still not recognized by the Installer.
 does it show up in device manager in fastboot mode?
[22:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Yes.
 Huh
[22:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Serial mode number too.
[22:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> if i do adb devices
[22:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> it starts daemon
[22:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> on port whatever
 what if you doo fastboot devices
[22:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> and it identifies my phone as connected through adb
 [Edit] what if you do fastboot devices
[22:51] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> lemme check
[22:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Nothing appears for some reason. But i'm sure it works because i previously used adb reboot fastboot command (or something along those lines) and it booted itself to fastboot mode.
 adb reboot bootloader
[22:53] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Exactly.
 then the phone should show up when you run fastboot devices
 since it doesn't I guess somethings wrong with fastboot
 May I chime in?
[22:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @YougoChats Of course Hugo.
[22:54] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Any help is wonderful..
 Adb reboot bootloader works because that's still adb
 Have you tested the output of fastboot devices while be device is in fastboot mode?
[22:56] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> No. I don't know how to do that
 You have fastboot installed?
[22:56] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> yes
[22:57] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> At least i presume so. i got Minimal ADB and Fastboot
 OK. Put the phone in fastboot mode by using the button combinations, or by typing adb reboot bootloader
[22:58] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> alright
 Then when the phone is ready type fastboot devices
[22:59] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> will do as soon as the phone boots up
[22:59] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> here we go
[22:59] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> fastboot mode
[23:00] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> alright i typed the second command
[23:00] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> and its listed
[23:00] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/pTEtMSef.png
 installer should work now?
[23:00] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> i can give it a try
[23:00] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> i got the lastest
[23:01] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> 0.1.11
 Please try indeed. Just leave the phone as it is now
[23:01] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> So do i select "Select device manually"?
 Yep
[23:02] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Alright. Now i got the change options and install option. I suppose im just gunning it for the install
[23:03] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I know the changes option is just to change version and wipe or not. So do i just...install? Didn't work last time but here we go
 Yea, give it a shot
[23:04] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Says please reboot to bootloader
[23:04] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> A much familiar screen by now.
 oh
[23:05] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> The thing is.
[23:05] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I flashed canonicals official image for the E4.5 with SPFlashTools
 Could you run the insstaller as administrator?
[23:05] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> just fine.
[23:05] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> sure
[23:06] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Same thing happens
[23:07] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I'm sorry to be troubling you. It's just i like the system and wanna use it.
 Very odd indeed. Usually it comes down to a permissions problem, but even tbough everything is in place something gets stuck...
[23:08] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Well the phone doesnt even ask me if i want it to communicate with the pc via adb as it usually does with the installer.
[23:08] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Developer mode enabled and nothing happens.
[23:08] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Wich is weird as all hell.
[23:09] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Ah
[23:09] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Lemme add this
[23:10] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> When i purposely used hardware keys to go into fastboot mode i plugged in the phone and windows said
[23:10] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> "Adb something interface driver installed"
[23:10] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I cannot recall the exact word.
[23:10] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> (s)
 I think you could try removing all drivers for this phone, and reconnect the phone and have tbe pc's reinstall drivers, in both normal boot and fastboot mode
[23:10] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Oh boy
[23:11] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> So do i just go into the device manager
 are you ok with destroying all data on the phone?
 Yeah sucks I know
[23:11] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee What data? SD Card Data?
[23:11] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @YougoChats Oh boy is this an issue. Something so simple
 no, the app data or such that's stored on internal storage on the phone
 you can remove the sd card i presume
[23:12] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee Theres none. The phone is running last canonical ota release. Clean as a whisle.
[23:12] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee And yes i can.
 You think the wipe option should matter?🤔
 ok, so you haven't used the phone at all or installed any apps you want to preserve?
[23:13] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee Nope. Only thing i did was initial config and wifi setup. And enable developer mode.
 ok
 @YougoChats, Installing from fastboot wipes the devices
[23:15] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee Do keep in mind that i am in windows 7.
 ok i don't know why it's not working for you
[23:15] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee I have been reading forums for the past 2 hours.
 worst case, instead of virtual box, download ubuntu 16.04 ISO, make a bootable USB with it, and boot to "Try Ubuntu" and install from there
 yeah, i don't know why it would not be working on windows.
 Was going to be my next suggestion
[23:16] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee And does that work on the live installation ambient?
[23:17] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> I'm guessing yes.
 yes, you don't need to install ubuntu. you can just install the tools in the live session, and go from there
[23:18] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> @dohbee By tools you mean just the UBPorts Installer? Or something more?
 Hm
 i mean whatever works
 Oneplus One is supported?
 but i have to go now.
 @chronosmsx, yes it is a core device, iirc
[23:19] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Alright. Thank you. I will try and report back.
[23:19] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> Thank you guys.
[23:19] <ubptgbot> <Squish :3> wish me luck
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/ssAf0iun.png
 @chronosmsx, 16.04 devel is quite incomplete and unstable though. You might want to start with 15.04 stable
 Already understood))
 Its not booting
 Put the phone in fastboot mode manually and try again
 Hm
 Installed 15.04 stable
 Boot screen of oneplus
 Few seconds
 30 at average
 Then reboot
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/kJH0D0sg.png
 I just downloaded a .ovpn file so I can use a VPN for my phone. How do I get that into the VPN settings on UT?
 FYI everyone, this is what the Install room guys save you from in the supergroup *10 times per day*.  ;)
 take some time to high five your UBFR guys ;)