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| Alabaster | hello if anyone is awake | 06:18 |
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| flocculant | Alabaster: if you're after support then you need #ubuntu | 06:34 |
| flocculant | and hello ;) | 06:34 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:35 |
| darkxst | hey didrocks | 07:36 |
| Laney | hey hey! | 07:46 |
| didrocks | hey Laney ;) | 07:49 |
| Laney | hey didrocks :'( | 07:50 |
| Laney | hugs | 07:50 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:50 |
| darkxst | hey seb128, Laney | 07:57 |
| seb128 | hey Tim | 07:57 |
| darkxst | seb128, https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/gnome-shell-search-providers/4322 | 08:04 |
| seb128 | darkxst, thanks for raising that up, we don't plan to snap much of the things you listed | 08:07 |
| seb128 | calculator is interesting, need to think what we do, if we want that feature in the dash and how useful it is | 08:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ one more issue of you want to snap gnome-software | 08:08 |
| kenvandine | seb128, darkxst: yeah, i saw that | 08:09 |
| darkxst | calculator is one of those thing you have no idea how many people have discovered | 08:09 |
| seb128 | I didn't for sure | 08:10 |
| darkxst | seb128, it was added way back, while you guys were in unity land | 08:16 |
| darkxst | Overview of changes in gnome-calculator 3.13.3 | 08:16 |
| darkxst | * New : Calculator search provider (Michael Catanzaro) | 08:16 |
| seb128 | right, I mean as an user I never saw it used or knew you could that in GNOME | 08:18 |
| darkxst | yes, and probably there are 1000's of GNOME users that don't know either | 08:19 |
| darkxst | but it certainly becomes a big issue if you snap any of the more common ones | 08:23 |
| darkxst | things like nautilus or software etc | 08:23 |
| seb128 | yeah, not this cycle, except maybe gnome-software so we need to look at this one | 08:26 |
| darkxst | ok | 08:29 |
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| Nafallo | salut | 08:47 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers | 08:50 |
| seb128 | hey Nafallo ricotz, how are you? | 08:51 |
| ricotz | darkxst, jbicha, hi, looks like gnome-session 3.27.91-0ubuntu1 is a bit broken and some binary packages are empty | 08:51 |
| ricotz | seb128, heya, I am good, I hope you too? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | ricotz, I am, thanks :) | 08:52 |
| seb128 | ricotz, can you open a bug and tag it block-proposed? | 08:53 |
| ricotz | I assume a simple install-test is already performed before letting it transitioned? | 08:54 |
| ricotz | which fails in postinst due to the missing files | 08:54 |
| seb128 | bug #1753403 I guess | 08:54 |
| ubot5` | bug 1753403 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "package gnome-session-bin 3.27.91-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: installed gnome-session-bin package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753403 | 08:54 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho, https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/taskcluster/docker/firefox-snap/snapcraft.yaml.in#72 | 08:54 |
| seb128 | tagged that one | 08:55 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: thanks | 08:55 |
| kenvandine | you can ignore the part that installs mime-handler.xml | 08:55 |
| kenvandine | but the rest of that | 08:55 |
| seb128 | ricotz, but yeah, https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-bionic/bionic/amd64/s/software-properties/20180305_075947_b01aa@/log.gz | 08:55 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: ahhhh... actully it was something I was experimenting too without having seen it. I think the same could be done for icon caches too, since they should not mention paths. | 08:55 |
| darkxst | ricotz, it was working fine on gnome3-staging | 08:56 |
| ricotz | darkxst, with the meson changes? | 08:56 |
| darkxst | yes | 08:56 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: also there's a problem with that when multiple parts depend on icons or other stuff (like when you reuse a deb package depending on that desktop stuff, as it wil bring it in its part, then this thing should be replicated | 08:57 |
| Trevinho | or... maybe build-attributes: [no-system-libraries] would avoid that? | 08:57 |
| ricotz | darkxst, I see, please take a look, there are a lot of dh_missing warnings | 08:58 |
| ricotz | would be good to use --fail-missing | 08:59 |
| darkxst | ricotz, yes will look | 09:02 |
| seb128 | the ppa build has the same issue https://launchpadlibrarian.net/359306064/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.gnome-session_3.27.90.1-0ubuntu0~bionic3_BUILDING.txt.gz | 09:04 |
| seb128 | or less, hum | 09:05 |
| Trevinho | desktoppers: see https://gitlab.gnome.org/3v1n0/nautilus/commits/ubuntu-3-26 | 09:13 |
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| seb128 | that gnome-session build is weird | 09:22 |
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| darkxst | seb128, ricotz, not too sure what is going on the files are there in the sbuild chroot but can't be found? | 09:40 |
| seb128 | they are not getting installed by dh_install | 09:40 |
| ricotz | darkxst, having override_dh_install without calling dh_install inside it seems weird | 09:46 |
| ricotz | darkxst, replacing "dh_install --list-missing" with just "dh_missing --list-missing" is not same thing | 09:50 |
| seb128 | yeah, that seems screwed | 09:51 |
| seb128 | override_dh_install: | 09:51 |
| seb128 | dh_missing --list-missing | 09:51 |
| seb128 | dh_migrations | 09:51 |
| darkxst | ricotz, right, not sure how that happened | 09:51 |
| seb128 | and that's diff between ppa and upload to the archive | 09:52 |
| darkxst | oh crap, let me finish dinner and then I will fix it ;) | 09:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the deb does "[pid 23964] open("/usr/share/locale/fr_FR/LC_MESSAGES/gtk30.mo", O_RDONLY <unfinished ...>" | 10:36 |
| kenvandine | oh | 10:37 |
| kenvandine | fr_FR | 10:37 |
| seb128 | it tries fr as well | 10:37 |
| seb128 | jbicha, seems like the webkit update made deja-dup not happy | 10:58 |
| seb128 | bug #1752950 | 10:58 |
| ubot5` | bug 1752950 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "deja-dup-monitor crashed with SIGSEGV in __pthread_once_slow()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752950 | 10:58 |
| darkxst | I reverted the dh_missing brain fade, but still failing to build | 11:01 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, jamesh, willcooke, hum, another (less important) issue with GNOME snaps, the "help" isn't working since it can't open the viewer | 11:02 |
| seb128 | or help: url aren't handled by xdg-open-snap | 11:02 |
| darkxst | I will sort it out tomorrow | 11:04 |
| jibel | Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/casper/disable_snapd_refresh_timer/+merge/340739 | 11:20 |
| Laney | thx | 11:21 |
| Nafallo | hmm. is there an easy way to test that graphics driver are in full speed mode on 16.04 Unity desktop? :-) | 11:26 |
| sarnold | I've used glxgears for that in the past but I don't know if it is still reasonable :) | 11:29 |
| Nafallo | /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p | 11:29 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 11:29 |
| jbicha | seb128: btw, GNOME Characters has a GNOME Shell search provider too (search for an emoji, click on the result and it puts the emoji in your clipboard so you can paste it somewhere) | 11:32 |
| seb128 | jbicha, that doesn't sound like useful/anything an user would do | 11:33 |
| seb128 | was this a workaround from the time gtk didn't have a picker? | 11:33 |
| jbicha | some users use it… | 11:33 |
| seb128 | rrright | 11:34 |
| seb128 | some users rely also on sitting on spacebar to heat your hands :) | 11:34 |
| jbicha | ok, I'm suggesting we don't switch any other apps to snaps that have a gnome-shell search provider | 11:35 |
| Laney | đź’© | 11:35 |
| seb128 | I'm suggesting we make those work | 11:35 |
| jbicha | on the other hand, I expect snaps to be updated a lot more frequently so maybe it's not that big of a deal since this sounds fixable | 11:35 |
| jbicha | btw, also LP: #1753146 | 11:36 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1753146 in gnome-characters (Ubuntu) "Characters Snap doesn't have color emoji" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753146 | 11:36 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ one for you, might autoresolve when we rebuild our snaps on core 18 | 11:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, seems to be because it was build an older cairo version | 11:38 |
| kenvandine | hmm | 11:38 |
| kenvandine | maybe i need a newer cairo in the ppa | 11:38 |
| jbicha | maybe, that was my guess at least | 11:39 |
| kenvandine | it sounds plausible | 11:39 |
| kenvandine | i'll investigate | 11:39 |
| kenvandine | but i really just want to get all this stuff rebuilt against 18.04 | 11:39 |
| kenvandine | need to nag folks about that this week | 11:39 |
| seb128 | right | 11:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, but thanks for pointing out the search issue, we are going to see what we can do about that | 11:40 |
| seb128 | but for now lunch | 11:40 |
| seb128 | bbl | 11:40 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/25/pipelines | 13:33 |
| seb128 | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gsettings-desktop-schemas/commit/?id=77ff1d9 | 13:42 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, looks like the CI system failed | 13:43 |
| andyrock | yeah it failed with docker | 13:43 |
| andyrock | not sure why | 13:43 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: ^^^ | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/libreoffice-6.0.2/bionic/0ubuntu1/ | 13:59 |
| jbicha | the deja-dup issue is probably webkit's fault, I pointed it out to mcatanzaro but we're waiting for the retracer to process the bug | 14:31 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: one more https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/26 | 14:33 |
| andyrock | sorry about that... I didn't notice before | 14:34 |
| seb128 | jbicha, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/358386915/Stacktrace.txt ? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | jbicha, 1751460 seems to be the same one? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | (that stacktrace comes from that one) | 14:34 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, ^ | 14:34 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128: ack | 14:35 |
| jbicha | flexiondotorg: can we mark the others a duplicate of that one then? | 14:36 |
| jbicha | s/ can you | 14:36 |
| seb128 | jbicha, is there an upstream report for it? | 14:36 |
| jbicha | not yet | 14:36 |
| seb128 | jbicha, also the webkit agent, where is the fix commited? | 14:36 |
| jbicha | the useragnet fix is in Debian git, I commented on the bug with some more details | 14:37 |
| seb128 | k, thanks | 14:38 |
| jbicha | we're expecting 2.19.92 this week so unless you wanted it sooner, I was just going to wait and sync it then | 14:38 |
| seb128 | that sounds good | 14:38 |
| seb128 | jbicha, also https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/1cb4cac20da28ca548347a91c680a944708c65ed seems a new error | 14:38 |
| seb128 | while you are talking to upstream about segfaults&such :) | 14:39 |
| jbicha | errors is a bit of pain because you have to try to dig for clues as to what is happening and you can't ask the user for more details | 14:41 |
| jbicha | it's also a pain to share upstream | 14:41 |
| seb128 | well sometime the stacktrace speaks for itself | 14:43 |
| seb128 | but yeah, it's best when there is a corresponding launchpad report | 14:43 |
| GunnarHj | Hi Laney, seb128: Added a comment with my view about installation of language packs: | 14:45 |
| GunnarHj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1727710/comments/15 | 14:45 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1727710 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Unable to access more than 20 languages in 1080p" [High,In progress] | 14:45 |
| GunnarHj | I hope you can pay a bit attention to this soon. ;) | 14:45 |
| seb128 | let's see if we can pick that up a bit this week | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I still don't understand what is needed to fix it properly and what is doable this cycle | 14:47 |
| seb128 | or what workaround we can use | 14:47 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, can you rebase | 14:53 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'll try to be patient a few more days. | 15:14 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: A simpler question: Should we drop the translation template for Synaptic from LP? (bug #1701170) | 15:14 |
| ubot5` | bug 1701170 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "missing closing b tag in german translation of downgrade action label" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1701170 | 15:14 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, or use X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpacks | 15:18 |
| seb128 | same discussion as for fcitx | 15:18 |
| seb128 | either way wfm | 15:18 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I would keep langpack enabled, easier to fix issues for translators | 15:19 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Yeah. And people tend to still like Synaptic, even if it was put to universe. So let's add X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpacks. | 15:20 |
| jbicha | GunnarHj: it looks like https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-evolution/unstable/evolution/debian/control?view=markup by the way | 15:22 |
| jbicha | line 11 | 15:22 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-seeds/more-minimal/+merge/340759 | 15:25 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, thx | 15:25 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Thanks, I knew. ;) | 15:27 |
| jbicha | oh, oops | 15:33 |
| jbicha | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk/2.19.91-1ubuntu2~bionic1.5.1 meant to go into a ppa, thus the funny version number | 15:33 |
| mgedmin | when I run /usr/bin/gtimelog from the .deb I get this error on startup: | 15:42 |
| mgedmin | (gtimelog:17630): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not load image 'gtimelog.png': Nepavyko atverti failo „/usr/share/gtimelog/gtimelog.png“: No such file or directory | 15:42 |
| mgedmin | and if you go to the app-menu (Super+F10 in gnome-shell) and choose About, you see a broken icon | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | also, hitting <F1> shows yelp with an error about URI help:gtimelog/index not matching any pages (I'm translating from lt_LT, original English phrasing might differ) | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | actually I get the first problem with git master as well | 15:47 |
| mgedmin | apparently I was relying on gtimelog.png being installed somewhere system-wide by the older .deb package I had installed | 15:48 |
| mgedmin | wait, no, that's not it | 15:49 |
| mgedmin | oops I was testing the ppa branch rather than master | 15:49 |
| mgedmin | master works fine | 15:50 |
| didrocks | xnox: small question, is scripts/plugininstall.py always ran in the same process than the frontend or it's another process? It seems to be like a script, but I see it imported and not executed, hence this question… | 15:56 |
| xnox | didrocks, i believe "both" | 15:57 |
| xnox | is the most correct answer | 15:57 |
| didrocks | interesting… | 15:57 |
| didrocks | sounds like thus the telemetry should be more attached to the frontend, as we have other data to collect, and not only "install time" ones | 15:57 |
| xnox | there is one running in ubiquity (i.e. the live-installer side of things) and i believe another one is launched, in-target / chrooted into target, before ubiquity is uninstalled from target.... | 15:57 |
| xnox | didrocks, oem-config-gtk mode is also a thing..... | 15:58 |
| didrocks | xnox: oem-config-gtk is running plugininstall as well? | 15:59 |
| xnox | didrocks, i think so.... | 15:59 |
| didrocks | I thought that was the second step thing | 15:59 |
| xnox | didrocks, oem-config-gtk is one more ubiquity frontend. it's not a separate thing in fact, it's just a subset of plugins/pages. | 15:59 |
| xnox | ie. no need to partition | 15:59 |
| xnox | but do need keyboard/language/wifi/user.... | 16:00 |
| didrocks | I saw 4 frontends | 16:00 |
| didrocks | gtk/qt/debconf_ui/noninteractive | 16:00 |
| didrocks | it seems -config is really the second step thing | 16:02 |
| didrocks | and the install is done with noninteractive first | 16:02 |
| didrocks | from the code | 16:02 |
| didrocks | willcooke: I think telemetry vs oem installs have been discussed with Dustin, what was the thinking on this? | 16:02 |
| mgedmin | welp I've been talking in the wrong channel today, sorry everyone! | 16:06 |
| willcooke | didrocks, sorry, just out of a meeting, reading | 16:11 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Did you notice bug #1753136? | 18:01 |
| ubot5` | bug 1753136 in libgweather (Ubuntu) "Gettext package inconsistency" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753136 | 18:01 |
| jbicha | yes, you said "let's wait for an upstream release" :) | 18:01 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: I said "possibly". Would be bad if we shipped libgweather in 18.04 with that bug. | 18:03 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: I trust that you know the best way to deal with it. | 18:04 |
| * jbicha giggles | 18:04 | |
| jbicha | GunnarHj: have you done gitlab merge requests before? could you convert it into one here? | 18:05 |
| jbicha | GunnarHj: never mind, I can push it without that… | 18:05 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Unfortunately I have failed (multiple times) to create a gitlab.gnome.org account. | 18:05 |
| jbicha | could you file an issue for that? lol | 18:06 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Any idea where? It's kind of a moment 22. | 18:06 |
| jbicha | sorry for the bad joke. Could you ask in #sysadmin on irc.gnome.org ? | 18:07 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Thanks for the tip. Will do. | 18:08 |
| jbicha | https://wiki.gnome.org/Sysadmin/Contact | 18:08 |
| jbicha | maybe emailing accounts @ gnome.org would be better | 18:08 |
| GunnarHj | Ok. | 18:09 |
| jbicha | Laney: any chance you could do a packagekit 1.1.9 release? hughsie recommends it alongside gnome-software 3.27.92 | 19:18 |
| Alabaster | I have a question if I may ask | 21:03 |
| Alabaster | ? | 21:03 |
| tjaalton | "don't ask to ask, just ask" | 21:03 |
| Alabaster | ha | 21:04 |
| Alabaster | Under permissions for home folder should Owner say literally the word "Me" in my main account or my username? | 21:04 |
| Alabaster | Sorry I'm a noob | 21:04 |
| Alabaster | and under Group a dropdown box with Group: Linux | 21:05 |
| jbicha | Alabaster: yes, it's supposed to say "Me" :) | 21:07 |
| Alabaster | Thanks jbicha | 21:07 |
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