[00:02] Rukus, what version of Ubuntu? [00:03] hey guys. what's the procedure to upgrade 17.10 to mitigate meltdown and spectre? the doco says that kernel packages have been released but my desktop is still vulnerable [00:04] (having installed those kernel upgrades) [00:04] wencher, if you update (using supported kernels) you'll receive all patches [00:05] guiverc: i did. i ran https://github.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker afterwards but still says vulnerable to s1,s2 and meltdown [00:06] wencher, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown [00:07] guiverc: yeah. so it says metldown is Y. but when i test it says, i am still vulnerable to meltdown [00:07] (for amd64 on 17.10) [00:09] guiverc: do you use 17.10 and if so, can you give me your kernel image version please? [00:09] could be that au mirror is fscked up [00:09] not until intel releases a new microcode, AFAIK [00:10] guys just beware that regular ff and ff developers edition suck, use ff nightly ! [00:10] OerHeks: i did see *no* intel-microcode updates as well but that's related to s1 and s2 if i am not mistaken right? [00:11] why is ff so slow on android? [00:13] certified, ask android support, thats not topical here [00:14] wencher, yeah i use 17.10 but not on this machine. ubuntu is as supported (to my knowledge) as other OSes as it relies on intel fixes (last intel fix was withdrawn as I recall) [00:15] its not a bug its a feature [00:15] inteligent designed [00:17] if i have AMD cpu do i get meltow mitigation? [00:17] guiverc: ok [00:17] sure, wait for the new hardware. [00:17] certified: you do [00:17] certified, yep - microcode for amd I'm sure i saw [00:18] but AMD dosent have meltdown bug [00:19] https://linuxhint.com/check-patch-spectre-meltdown-ubuntu/ is interesting.. the fella says he is using 17.10 [00:20] certified, nope, but m$ft fixed stuffed some amd's anyway... amd has spectre though [00:20] seems like all cpu have it [00:20] maybe risc dosent [00:21] not all - but most (almost all x86) [00:21] arm isnt x86 [00:21] raspberry pi's don't :) ubuntu-mate on pi's are golden! [00:22] inst that using arm? [00:23] yeah, armv7 in my pi2 [00:24] i think even gpus have it [00:24] or they need new drivers [00:25] gl geting new driver for my card [00:25] its under legacy wont fix [00:37] Rukus: try this, then logout and login: sudo update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/* [00:39] Rukus: also check the root file system for errors sometime, just in case (i've seen such issues caused by file system incoherences in the past). [00:56] how do I search through locally installed packages [00:57] (apt-cache search) [01:07] I tried using apt-get and this happened. https://pastebin.com/nktrRWhE What do I do? [01:14] love3, mint issue? [01:15] yah [01:15] lol how did you know? [01:15] (#linuxmint-help is on irc.spotchat.org [01:15] mint has its own issues. [01:20] does anyone know the process for getting newer packages put into the synaptic repositories? [01:21] pengwens, find a PPA with newer versions, or you can plase a SRU on the list [01:21] !sru [01:21] Stable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [01:21] *wish [01:23] cool, thank you [01:23] mind that LTS versions are aimed on stability, not newer functions with updates, only security fixes. [01:24] versions in between might have newer sources .. [01:31] if you use a LGPL library in your project, then you can't close your source ? and you can't also sell your app ? [01:42] looks like the issue was elsewhere [01:42] thanks fellas [01:42] (elsewhere = grub) :D [01:43] guiverc: ^ ty [01:45] I just want to use a LPGPL library for making an app. now if I use a LGPL library in my project, then can I close my source ? and can I also sell my app ? [01:45] LGPL* [01:45] JavaGhost: You can sell anything people are willing to give you money for. If it's *GPL licensed, though, you cannot prevent them from reselling it or giving it away if they so choose. [01:47] end-user* [01:47] Crell: ty for responsing, so can I also close my app source and don't give end-use the source of application ? [01:47] If you're using someone else's LGPL library, you have to give your downstream customers/users access to the source of that library, but you are not required to give them access to the rest of the code outside of that library. [01:47] With various caveats around where the library boundary is that vary somewhat from one language to another depending on how exactly they work. [01:49] Crell: for a library like jpf (in java for making plugin system in your app), jpf is LGPL, if I use it for my app, then I need just give a link of jpf source ? [01:50] Is it LGPLv2 or LGPLv3? [01:50] it just said: it's lgpl http://jpf.sourceforge.net/ [01:51] That probably means LGPLv2-and-later. Especially if it's still on sourceforge. :-) [01:51] Ah, yes, LGPLv2.1. At the top of the License page. [01:52] Crell: Ah, and what that meaning for me ? :) [01:52] Strictly speaking, with *GPLv2 someone is allowed to request the code directly from you on a CD. As a practical matter though, yes, stating that you're using it and linking to the official project page is sufficient in 99.3% of cases. [01:53] (IANAL TINLA, but I used to be the Director of Legal Affairs for an OSS foundation and worked with the Software Freedom Law Center on our policy statements, so I'm slightly above casual man-on-the-street knowledge.) [01:53] Crell: this means that I can close my source, and in a "about menu" claim that I used that library, and also can sell my app yes ? [01:54] Yes. [01:55] All that said, beware the asterisk around library boundaries (I don't know the details for Java), and be aware that by releasing proprietary code you are telling your customers that you reserve the right to override their decisions about what their computer does. Proprietary software is a form of control at a distance. [01:55] Crell: thank you so much Crell you helped me a lot :* [01:56] Crell: Ah, thank you ! [01:57] Disclaimer: I'm a Free Software (rather than Open Source) advocate. Propretary software is a form of oppression. :-) [01:58] hi, I just upgraded to 18.04/17.10 not sure [01:58] Crell: actually I'm makin an app but it's free, I just wanted to know wether I can sell it or not :) ty for helping [01:58] Is there a way to uninstall all packages that are not in default installation? [01:59] Entirely unrelated question for the room: I want to increase the amount of swap space in my (K)Ubuntu 17.10 system. I'm pretty sure it's a swap file, not swap partition. I was previously directed to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq, which talks about adding a swap file, but how would I resize one? Just add a new one of the new size then deactivate the old one? If so, how would I deactivate the old one? [02:00] JavaGhost: If you're making it no-cost you may as well make it Free Software as well. :-) [02:00] Crell: swapoff /path/to/swapfile [02:00] And that persists reboots? [02:00] no [02:01] Hm. [02:02] My fstab currently has this for swap: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 - That... suggests that I have to do a bit more to make it an encrypted swap file. I'm used to not being able to write into /dev with fallocate. [02:04] crell: have you considered "If you find this app helpful, feel free to hit the 'donate' button?" [02:04] MeaCulpa: I think that was to JavaGhost? [02:04] sorry, not meaning to intrude [02:04] jello [02:06] Not a problem, just directing the message to the likely audience. :-) [02:06] I'm here for help with swap files. The GPL knowledge drop is just something I do. [02:07] yeah i'm not sure about encrypted swap [02:08] Me either. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:41] Yes, :D donate is a great strategy [03:32] Hi people. I have a very strange problem. Using the ubuntu 4.13.0-32 kernel and a dracut initramfs, my hard drives remain unseen by the initramfs, with blkid from the initramfs showing nothing. nothing shows up in /sys/class/block/ either. A custom compiled 4.15 kernel works though, is there any kernel option that could be responsible here? === LocaMocha is now known as Sauvin === Map is now known as Guest35240 [03:54] I'm doing some testing with bionic and discovered that installing package zutils (via ansible) uninstalls all the zfs management components since zutils now has a conflict with zfsutils. [03:56] Why does ubuntu not create a swap partition when installing and selected auto? [03:56] kryojenik, bionic questions should go to #ubuntu+1 [03:56] thx [04:04] when I log into my user, I see that /media/phillijw/Thing gets mounted. Can I tell it to mount with certain permissions somehow? is that fstab? because its not currently in fstab [04:05] join #odoo [04:09] how exactly do I use snaps? I just installed the snap for phpstorm but it's not in my $PATH [04:10] phillijw: you may want to try adding mode=xxxx to the options field in fstab, see man mount, search for mode= [04:11] note that its & 0777 [05:07] ubuntu 16.04 - computer shuts down during boot process if AMD graphics card is installed. (booting windows with the exact same setup runs without issue). It literally is just going through the system services starting etc on the log screen and then the power just cuts with no warning. [05:09] hey [05:39] can anybody help me on diagnosing and fixing this issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WVPpYqfCtZ/ === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [06:10] kandinski: reask time to time, it is usuaull question [06:19] hello if anyone is awake! [06:19] Alabaster: hello, we are :p [06:20] sorry to bother anyone but has anyone ever encountered after installing the arc ppa and messing around with Tweak tools when you boot up your Ubuntu VM or restart Desktop Icons dont show up unless I go into tweak tools and turn them off then on?? [06:21] Or is because I am starting to use up over half my memory from not restarting my actual computer? [06:21] outoftime_92: thanks [06:21] I'll re-ask in a couple of hours [06:21] Alabaster: we dont support external ppa's mate, as they are a risk for the ubuntu system [06:21] my VM is getting awfully slow and taking more time to boot and when I go full screen it lags [06:22] is there anything you know that would maybe be a reason to cause the desktop icons not to show up when rebooting or booting up VM Ubuntu? [06:25] ok heres another question if I go into my home folder and check permissions it shows Owner as literally the word "me" is that normal? or should it be my username?? [06:27] I am so at a loss here [06:28] is owner:"Me" odd? [06:28] the actual word "Me" [06:28] not Alabaster === Leion1 is now known as Leion [06:34] dir! [06:34] !dir [06:37] !list [06:37] acdriverview: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [06:47] Hey there! trying to use IRC [06:47] anyone here [06:49] hackthekernel: whats up? [06:49] Nothing. === Leion1 is now known as Leion [06:49] Just excited to start this beautiful journey with computers [06:54] hackthekernel: this channel is meant for ubuntu support only [06:55] Thanks. [07:11] My webhost won't let me configure TTL in my DNS settings. Should I pout like a baby and cry n stuff, or is there a practical solution? [07:12] Hi I can't get my linux system to wake up after suspend on hdmi monitor. It wakes fine on vga monitor [07:13] sorry to bother anyone but I have a question if I may ask? [07:13] Alabaster: go ahead [07:14] Sometimes when I boot or reboot in my Ubuntu VM my desktop icons are gone until I go into tweak tools and turn them off and then turn them on [07:15] 16.04.04 of course [07:16] might you know what could cause that EriC? [07:16] Alabaster: no idea, are all the files in your home dir owned by you? [07:17] under permissions the say next to owner the word "Me" not Alabaster but "Me" is that odd for it to say that?? [07:18] i dont think so, try "sudo find ~ ! -user $USER" [07:18] one sec will do [07:19] what should it read out? [07:20] it shouldnt give anything back [07:20] three lines [07:21] says home linux .dbus session-bus .cache/dconf [07:22] it wont let put the / in this chat === denixx is now known as denixx|w1 [07:22] you cant START chat line with / [07:22] /example [07:23] I added space and its fine [07:23] it says first line / home / linux / .dbus === denixx|w1 is now known as denixx|w1|2 === denixx|w1|2 is now known as denixx|w1 [07:23] then / home / linux / .dbus / session-bus [07:23] Alabaster: try sudo chown -R $USER: ~ [07:23] as your user [07:24] nothing [07:24] ok, maybe it will work better now [07:24] do I type my name in there somewhere? [07:24] no [07:26] I wonder how do I change in the file manager owner:Me to Alabaster?? [07:26] Alabaster: i think it just works that way, it means you're the owner [07:26] owner:Me Group:linux [07:27] yeah it's not a problem [07:27] I hope so. seems weird the owner says "Me". I mean you're probably right. Just silly for Ubuntu [07:29] its also taking more time to start up and when I full screen the system just stalls for minutes [07:29] yep I restarted and the icons worked. Did a full reboot and no Desktop icons. weird [07:30] its odd because I guess gnome isn't throwing them up until I reset it in tweak tools [07:31] create a new user and repeat the test [07:31] it maybe something to do with your user settings, rather than a problem [07:34] good idea ikonia [07:36] I have a question about my hdmi monitor not wakeing up after suspend please [07:40] tonywb, you may not get a answer because people in the room don't have one, but thank you for your patience (I saw your prior post too) [07:41] OK. I was thinking I had to wait in line [07:44] yeah when I restart the whole VM Ubuntu on another user Desktop Icons automatically start with it [07:46] in fact the group in Permissions says the username. On my original account it says Linux. [08:03] .......? [08:04] meteorx: better not login to irc as root === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [08:31] After one of the recent updates to Ubuntu Xenial, a link to an executable shell script on the desktop stopped working. When I double click it it opens the file with Gedit instead of running the script [08:32] look at the properties of that link [08:32] look at the permissions on the script, making sure it is actually executable [08:33] Доброе время суток. [08:33] !ru | hatori [08:33] hatori: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [08:36] hello guys. weirdly, my touchpad have the edge scrolling in the wrong order. when i slide down content goes up and when i slide up content goes down. any ideas? [08:37] I'm trying to make notify-send target specific users by switching to each individual user (su or sudo) prior to calling notify-send. However, when testing with my own user (switching to myself) in a terminal this does not show the message in my GUI, not even after applying the tips from https://www.christianroessler.net/tech/2015/send-desktop-notifications-with-notify-send-to-other-users-from-within-cron-script.html [08:40] Xano: that sounds like a bad way of sending notifies [08:40] and quite a secuirty hole being created just for a notify [08:42] i mean, when i slide down in my touchpad edge scrolling, i expect to see the scroll bar of a web page, i.e, to scroll down to and happens exactly the opposite. but on mouse, the scroll wheel works fine [08:44] ikonia, It's for a script that will run as a root cron job or as the local user anyway. [08:45] can anybody help me on diagnosing and fixing this issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WVPpYqfCtZ/ [08:45] ikonia, So if you can't switch to the user you want to send notifications to, that's your problem. [08:45] (I figured) [08:46] each user should run this in their sessions instead [08:48] oops. solved the issue. "Natural Scrolling" isn't that natural :x [08:52] geirha, Well it's a back-up script and the currently logged-in user may not have access to all the paths that need to be backed up, but they do want to be notified of back-up errors. [08:54] well, then I'd have the cronjob write this notification to a certain location. Then all users can run a separate script in their session (e.g. via startup applications), that watches that location and does the send-notify when something's up [09:00] i [09:00] hi [09:00] what is here === Betonneklakske is now known as Garc [09:33] Hi, could anyone help me with certbot and apache2 ? I've made certificate for and https to my apache2 server is working. But when I create a virtual host on apache2 with the same domainname and certificate it doesn't work anymore. [09:37] adalbert: how does your vhost config look like? [09:38] deem: sec, i'll pastebin it [09:40] This is the one that's working, the default-ssl.conf , https://pastebin.com/vD2MHh0A [09:42] When I use this one, https is not verified no more ... https://pastebin.com/DyPqRtm5 [09:43] adalbert: did you restarted apache after enabling the configuration? [09:43] deem: ofcourse === B is now known as Guest58565 [09:46] adalbert: seems like a client problem on your side. it's trusted. https://pastebin.com/r2nU1BmZ [09:47] adalbert: also you can point your config directly to /etc/letsencrypt/live//fullchain.pem etc, so you will use the correct certificate after renewing [09:48] deem: oke, i'll restart my apache2 to the vhost now, can you do the same log again in a minute ? [09:49] deem: we can check for a difference ? [09:49] deem: it's restarted [09:50] deem: https is no longer verified :( [09:50] adalbert: cause it's a different certificate now [09:51] deem: what do you mean, i'm using the same .crt ? [09:51] adalbert: https://pastebin.com/JuDDZCNe [09:51] the webserver is answering with a self signed certificate now [09:52] deem: i see [09:52] deem: how do i fix it? [09:52] you should check your configs again [09:55] Seems like Firefox (?) has begun to open some (?) videos in a muted fashion. Anybody with any information on this? [09:57] is .deb a compiled file [09:57] or can it also be a source file? [09:57] Hi, I was messing about with changing the language for menus etc, and out of the blue, suddenly all my files and folders from $HOME is showing up on my desktop. If I remove them, it removes the actual folder aswell. Is there anyway to remove this? I do not know what make this happen. Thank you [09:59] is .deb a binary? [10:06] fstoltz: try to run "nautilus -q" then open the file manager again [10:10] EriC^^: Running nautilus -q removed everything from the desktop, though as soon as I opened nautilius again, it comes back.. [10:12] did you try logging out and back in? [10:13] Nope, but I've logged in/out several times and it's stayed like that. But I'll give it a try, running nautilus -q and then logout & back in. brb 1 sec [10:15] EriC^^: Nope, still there when I log in. [10:15] EriC^^: Any other suggestions? [10:17] deem: still there mate? [10:17] Hi folks [10:18] Is there any tool for ubuntu where I can lock a folder with password or gpg encryption, I want to use cloud storages but I can't just upload my data to someone else, so want to enrcipt locally first, I found solutions like restic which is great for backup but can't have a live mount, or thinngs like cryptomator but that is java based :( [10:19] hello [10:20] halt: you can use gpg [10:21] adalbert: sure. did you checked your configs? [10:21] Anyone knows how to stop all my folders & files in $HOME appearing on my desktop? I'm not sure what caused it to show, I was messing about with languages and suddenly all my home folder & files popped up on the desktop. [10:21] deem: it's working now , i'll post the config i've used ,sec . [10:21] Ben64: and how can I live mount that ? I know how to lock a folder into a zip but how can I keep interacting with the content of the folder [10:21] halt: ecryptfs? [10:22] deem: https://pastebin.com/WLRUKa3a [10:23] hi, darkhunter [10:23] : \ [10:23] adalbert: did your default configuration used another cert or why did it changed? [10:23] hi, cewood [10:24] deem: yes , this is the default i was using but didn't work [10:24] https://pastebin.com/DyPqRtm5 [10:24] Triffid_Hunter: that looks interesting, do you have more example driven documentation then the http://ecryptfs.org/documentation.html [10:25] halt: nope, just came up when I asked google for per-directory encryption solutions in linux [10:26] karma google ++ [10:29] hello, could someone please help me set up mpd audio? This computer has multiple audio devices listed in the Settings app, but only physical audio output (a TV connected via HDMI). Audio in general is working as I can hear an mp3 file played from the Files app, but playing that same file in mpd does not produce sound. I've tried a few things in the mpd config but I'm probably missing something obvious [10:29] I'm feeling ignored [10:30] Hi, Leo [10:30] * JimBuntu stops ignoring khyrthy [10:31] hi bigblind ! [10:31] khyrthy, don't feel ignored , this is ubuntu's support chat, not a regular chat [10:32] Good point BluesKaj ... all (most?) are welcome at #ubuntu-offtopic [10:34] BluesKaj, where can I find a regular chat ? [10:35] guess he/she found one :-) [10:36] hello [10:37] erdem: hi [10:37] i am running ubuntu server and just installed xfce, now i want to mount an encrypted hdd, double clicking it on dekstop prompt password input but as soon as i mount i get a permission error [10:37] HI [10:37] already added my user to "disk" group [10:38] can anybody tell me how to get anbox to work? running ubuntu mate 16.0 [10:39] "Not authorized to perform operation" [10:39] chelsea_,rpi? [10:39] are there any other groups my user has to be part of? [10:41] rpi? [10:41] new to ubuntu [10:45] my app crashed, did i miss anything` [10:45] ? [10:45] rpi = Raspberry Pi? [10:45] chelsea_, ok then what's an anbox? [10:45] JimBuntu, exactly [10:46] BluesKaj, anbox = Android in a box. anbox.io [10:48] right, kinda figured, then it's most likely an arm architecture cpu etc [10:48] :/ [10:49] I have a rpi3 ..works great with Raspbian OS [10:49] chelsea_, ck what do you want to do with the anbox? [10:56] hi [10:56] download android apps [10:56] in ubuntu mate 16.04 is it possible to get a CPU temperature widget in the taskbar (raspberry pi3) ? [11:02] chelsea_, I suggest you join the #android chat [11:05] join #android [11:06] just click on #android === HobGoblin is now known as UukGoblin [11:28] !s thor 2017 [11:28] acalypopse: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:31] Hey. I have a Lenovo thinkpad e460 I am not able to go into my BIOS. I was wondering if I could use GRUB command-line (when you press c in GRUB menu) to access BIOS [11:32] tannishpage, the GRUB command line isn't going to let you access BIOS, afaik [11:33] But when ubuntu is installed the GRUB menu allows you to boot into the BIOS. [11:33] JimBuntu: [11:34] tannishpage, ? I will say that you *should* be able to enter BIOS via F1. Is there some specific reason you can't get into BIOS or an unknown issue? [11:35] JinBuntu: I have no clue what the problem is. I can't enter BIOS. [11:35] anyone familiar with PopOS? [11:35] It appears to be using Gnome3 and I'm wondering how to enable ALT to drag windows [11:35] seems like a silly omission [11:36] jaydemir: try the windows/super key instead [11:36] akik: that did it [11:36] wow [11:36] why would they move it to that [11:36] jaydemir: change because of .. change [11:36] >.> [11:36] thanks [11:37] tannishpage, with your laptop completely powered off... if you press the power button and then keep pressing F1 a few times per second... you can't get into BIOS? Have you checked to make sure your F1 key is working? Are you, by any chance, trying to use an external keyboard? [11:37] one of the most useful features in xorg [11:38] on what hardware is F1 bios? It's usually F10 or F12 [11:38] jaydemir, on the specific Lenovo laptop in question [11:38] oh lenovo [11:38] JimBuntu: (Its the enter key btw). I power off, i press enter and it boots into windows. It beebs once and boots into ubuntu [11:38] yeah good luck [11:38] ignore the last word [11:38] windows i meant [11:39] what version of Windows? Somehow 10 has this ability to hijack the hardware on boot so you have to be ridiculously quick [11:39] windows 10 [11:39] tannishpage, You need to make sure it's a complete power off with Windows, otherwise the F-keys will not work at reboot. You should also be able to tell it to reboot into the BIOS via Windows shutdown. 1 moment while I look up the exact command (not a Windows user) [11:39] lenovo also goes out of there way to make it unreasonably hard to install Linux on their machines [11:40] JimBuntu: ok [11:40] tannishpage: reboot windows, Not shutdown [11:40] JimBuntu: I found the GRUB command to boot to bios using GRUB command line. Its fwsetup. [11:41] tannishpage, https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/access-bios-windows-10 [11:41] Ah, yes [11:43] hello again# [11:43] im having a problem with a snap package, dont know how to work within the environment [11:43] do i have to "chroot" or smth like that? [11:46] I don't think you have to do anything special once they're installed. To install you need sudo permission, then you can check it is installed by entering "snap list" [11:49] erdem, what snap... for the snaps I use; i run them as normal apps. [11:49] just installed nextcloud [11:49] now i wanted to change the "data" directory [11:50] https://help.nextcloud.com/t/howto-change-move-data-directory-after-installation/17170 [11:50] # [11:50] following this guide [11:52] https://nopaste.xyz/ [11:52] this is how i run the first command [11:52] oh wrong link, one moment [11:52] https://nopaste.xyz/?8c87a0d196bdd6b7#p01yr8Ory5Ln8sLPnlZSur8Kd0I08J5F0g7JHIBD46s= [11:56] erdem, i've never run a snap with `sudo` ... (i'm giving it a go ... busy) [11:57] $snap_name = getenv('SNAP_NAME'); [11:57] 'path'=> '/snap/'.$snap_name.'/current/htdocs/apps', === u0_a93 is now known as Noxturnix [11:57] erdem, ok. if running a snap under my own id is fine, but when I used sudo my usual $PATH was gone so snap failed to be found... [11:57] in htdocs/config/config.php [11:58] seems like the env var is not set? [11:58] I thought snaps were meant to run in normal user mode, and not require root access? [11:59] yes but if you work with the app within the snap you might need root, no? [11:59] Especially server type ones, as you won't want to run web accessible services as a root user [11:59] because in my case all files belong to root:root within the snap [12:00] Who the files belong to doesn't matter as long as they are executable/readable to all users [12:01] okay [12:01] You're getting an error because nextcloud is not supposed to run as root, it doesn't have the proper environment variables setup for it. [12:01] I don't like the sudo to run snaps either... it seems risky... [12:01] but somehow that env variable is not set [12:01] even if i run as normal user [12:02] I would consult the documentation for nextcloud, and possibly try reaching out to their user group to see if anyone there has run into a similar issue [12:03] If running as a normal user fails, maybe try removing the snap and installing again? following this guide: https://itsfoss.com/use-snap-packages-ubuntu-16-04/ [12:04] export SNAP_NAME=nextcloud [12:04] seems to fix the porblem but [12:05] Cannot write into "config" directory! [12:05] This can usually be fixed by giving the webserver write access to the config directory [12:05] seems like this command is not supposed to work within snaps? [12:05] because they are meant to always be read only? [12:08] question: why are you trying to run a server as a snap? [12:09] it seemed like this would be a quick and easy way to set everything up [12:09] seems like its not [12:09] maybe i should manually install apache/sql/nextcloud etc [12:09] What are the first steps after installing Ubuntu desktop ? What proprietery multimedia codecs ? Howto change menu fonts, etc. ? Any idea ? I am beginner. Thanks [12:10] kallenp, there are tons of websites titled 10(15,5..) things to do after installing ubuntu - have you looked? [12:11] erdem, if you intend this to be a permanent installation, i would go with installing from the repo instead... it will auto config most of it for you, and you can customize it after. Snaps just don't seem like a good idea to me for server type activities [12:11] guiverc: can you send me link ? [12:12] pragmaticenigma, i will try that, thank you for your suggestion [12:12] kallenp, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-16-04-lts (i didn't open it, but omg is usually good) [12:15] guiverc: Verry thanks ! :-) [12:16] kallenp, most welcome :) === crogers_ is now known as crogers [12:19] guiverc: thanks :-) [12:23] kallenp, it is 16.04 LTS you are using right; if using 17.10 go for the 17.10 article... (17.10 uses gnome DEsktop, 16.04 uses Unity) [12:23] hi [12:23] guiverc: I am using 16.04 LTS [12:23] :) [12:24] somebody there ? [12:24] yep Hi kengsley ; if you have a question, please just ask it. [12:24] cool [12:24] i'm using elementary os [12:25] can you help me a tv software ? [12:25] to find [12:27] kengsley: you will have to check with elementary support, this is purly ubuntu support. [12:28] there is a ubuntu flavor that is made for tv ..i think it mythTv or something . sorry i am pretty new to it all [12:29] oh he left [12:30] not a problem... i would have answered the same (ubuntu & official flavors like askubuntu where I'm more commonly at..) [12:31] is there a ! elementary command on here? [12:31] !mint [12:31] The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [12:31] !elementary [12:31] Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution. [12:32] / i was only trying that; I assume it was more common to have mint questions (it sure is on askubu) [12:32]