| stochastix | Will try the 17.10 one | 02:06 |
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| Boyette | hi | 02:38 |
| lotuspsychje | when i start simple scan it says i need a driver for my hp all in one, but when pressing download driver it says failed. anyone knows wich package this would be needed? | 05:10 |
| lotuspsychje | it worked earlier on 18.04 and on 16.04 on same machine | 05:21 |
| flocculant | lotuspsychje: hp deksjet scans ok here | 05:27 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx for testing flocculant | 05:28 |
| lotuspsychje | !info sane | 05:29 |
| ubottu | sane (source: sane-frontends): scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-12build1 (bionic), package size 84 kB, installed size 283 kB | 05:29 |
| lotuspsychje | hplip-data was also installed and latest hmmm | 05:31 |
| flocculant | lotuspsychje: also I removed it and reinstalled - still finds what it needs to | 05:33 |
| flocculant | I assume it prints etc ok? | 05:33 |
| lotuspsychje | flocculant: yes printer works | 05:35 |
| lotuspsychje | flocculant: ah, ill try a purge good idea | 05:36 |
| lotuspsychje | flocculant: not on the machine atm, ill try in a bit :p | 05:43 |
| flocculant | good luck - you're lucky I was awake enough to do what I did :p | 05:44 |
| lotuspsychje | flocculant: haha | 05:44 |
| lotuspsychje | i surely am | 05:44 |
| flocculant | been awake since ~4am - alarm has just gone of ... | 05:45 |
| flocculant | still not had enough tea to be called alive and kicking just yet | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | a shower always works | 05:46 |
| flocculant | if I lived somewhere that had one ... | 05:46 |
| lotuspsychje | oh | 05:46 |
| lotuspsychje | im not gonna reccomend rain :p | 05:46 |
| flocculant | social housing | 05:46 |
| flocculant | yea don't:D | 05:46 |
| lotuspsychje | im getting unmet dependecys and didnt add external ppa's https://hastebin.com/tunuzeyuvi.rb | 08:25 |
| Faux | It can also happen if you have older libraries installed. Or it could just be apt being terrible at dependency resolution. Generally you can just remove a randomly selected offending package, and try installing it again afterwards. | 08:29 |
| lotuspsychje | Faux: tried to pyrge that package but no dice | 08:29 |
| lotuspsychje | purge | 08:29 |
| Faux | Did you remove the :i386 version? | 08:30 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 08:30 |
| * Faux shrugs. Try aptitude, or wait a bit to see if it's an actual problem. | 08:31 | |
| lotuspsychje | Faux: whats the dpkg method of purge force again? | 08:31 |
| Faux | Pardon? | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | instead of purge with apt, purge with dpkg to solve issues | 08:32 |
| lotuspsychje | dpkg -P nvm | 08:35 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm doesnt wanna purge neither | 08:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Faux: fixxed it https://askubuntu.com/questions/873565/broken-libperl5-package-when-trying-to-install-updates | 09:14 |
| Faux | Ew. :) | 09:14 |
| Faux | I'm getting audio dropouts using Google Maps' 3d/birdseye view in official Chrome stable. | 11:57 |
| swein | just upgraded/dist-upgraded my 18.04 desktop, boots to just past the ubuntu boot load in screen but display manager with login won't load | 14:31 |
| swein | can't drop to single user mode, just a mouse cursor and blank screen | 14:35 |
| Faux | Gpu driver has probably crashed X. Booting rescue mode from grub will let you get a shell. | 14:37 |
| swein | holding shift on reboot didn't get me into grub menu, weird | 14:39 |
| swein | I'm on an intel NUC skulltrail btw | 14:39 |
| swein | any other ideas to get into grub menu on reboot? holding left shift isn't working | 14:46 |
| Faux | Boot from a usb stick, edit the grub config to have a non-hidden timeout. (not a serious suggestion) | 14:47 |
| Faux | Sometimes keyboards don't work during early boot; mobo does'nt have a weird "bios keyboard" usb port or something? | 14:47 |
| swein | I'm using my ergodox infinity, but it works normally as other keyboards. I can try using another around my office | 14:50 |
| Faux | It's a mobo problem, not a keyboard problem. | 14:50 |
| swein | I'll check bios for options | 14:52 |
| swein | Faux: Thank you for helping | 14:52 |
| CoJaBo | Anyone know why networking would stop working after changing a SATA card? | 14:53 |
| swein | hit the card? or cables? | 14:56 |
| CoJaBo | It's built-in | 14:56 |
| swein | IRQ conflict ?:P | 14:56 |
| CoJaBo | Only thing I can think of is it changed the name somehow | 14:56 |
| swein | sdX shouldn't affect network interfaces | 14:57 |
| CoJaBo | I can do ifconfig enp42s0 [IP], but then I still cant get to the internet, just local | 14:57 |
| CoJaBo | And even then, it takes ~10 minutes to boot, since it waits a LONG time for network to come up | 14:58 |
| Faux | Oh, the card is working, but you don't get internet. | 15:00 |
| Faux | "dhclient -v enp42s0" will probably fix it. You need to argue with whatever network tool you're using (networkmanager, /etc/network/interfaces, nplan), though. | 15:01 |
| CoJaBo | Faux: What is the default, and how do i fix it to find the card again without doing this manually every boot? | 15:04 |
| Faux | The default depends on what phase of moon you installed in, and I know nothing about them. :) | 15:04 |
| CoJaBo | whats the current default then? | 15:04 |
| Faux | nplan/netplan is the new default. | 15:05 |
| Faux | Unless they've given up on that. | 15:06 |
| CoJaBo | how do i use that? | 15:07 |
| CoJaBo | /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml lists a device name that doesn't exist | 15:08 |
| * Faux has no idea, as the upgrade has not broken it, so has left it alone. | 15:09 | |
| CoJaBo | unrealted, but wtf is this File descriptor 3 (pipe:[44189]) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent PID 7115: grub-install | 15:09 |
| CoJaBo | Going to fix the name there, hope, and reboot i guess.. | 15:10 |
| Faux | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan suggests running "generate" | 15:10 |
| Faux | Unless it's done on boot. | 15:11 |
| CoJaBo | Dunno; it booted this time, so something worked | 15:14 |
| CoJaBo | Faux: I upgraded the BIOS while troubleshooting the SATA card issue. The firmware manages the ethernet, apparently, so that's probably what changed the device name | 15:15 |
| CoJaBo | Faux: Huge thanks on the netplan thing tho, I would've never found that in a trillion years =D | 15:17 |
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| swein | is 18.04 lightdm? | 16:18 |
| swein | I'm trying to fix intel driver crashing x, | 16:18 |
| swein | gdm I googled sorry | 16:19 |
| BenLubar__ | Does Bionic require some new CPU feature that Xenial didn't? | 16:21 |
| nacc | BenLubar__: seems unlikely | 16:21 |
| BenLubar__ | Hmm, I wonder why my headless Linux machine suddenly becomes unresponsive until I hold the power button :/ | 16:22 |
| BenLubar | hmm, it appears to have gone into some kind of sleep mode, since when I pushed the power button it immediately started up and I was able to connect over ssh on the first try | 16:25 |
| swein | what a horrible expereience, can't even get to proper terminal to reinstall intel drivers and displaymanagers | 16:34 |
| nacc | BenLubar: interesting | 16:40 |
| nacc | swein: 'intel driver' ? | 16:41 |
| BenLubar | this probably isn't related, but after I rebooted the machine at the end of the upgrade process it didn't come back up (I think that's a problem that existed before I upgraded, though. Something to do with misconfigured bios.) | 16:42 |
| BenLubar_ | ok, this is super weird, but... could my computer be running two copies of Ubuntu on the same filesystem simultaneously somehow? | 16:45 |
| nacc | BenLubar: not really, no. | 16:45 |
| BenLubar_ | I'm gonna try sudo shutdown -h now and see if the computer shuts off or just goes into standby mode again | 16:45 |
| nacc | BenLubar: I guess it depends on what you mean by 'running'? :) | 16:45 |
| BenLubar | the message about "Your Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is supported until April 2019." is something I can ignore, right? | 16:51 |
| BenLubar | the documentation seems to imply that the message is only there because I'm on a prerelease version of Bionic | 16:51 |
| nacc | BenLubar: where do you see that? | 16:53 |
| BenLubar | nacc: when I log in over SSH | 16:56 |
| nacc | BenLubar: so from the motd? | 16:56 |
| BenLubar | yes | 16:56 |
| nacc | BenLubar: hrm, I don't see that from a login locally | 16:56 |
| nacc | BenLubar: lsb_release -a definitely says it's 18.04 ? | 16:56 |
| BenLubar | Release: 18.04 | 16:57 |
| nacc | BenLubar: ok :) | 17:01 |
| nacc | BenLubar: dunno where that comes from then, as you obviously don't have a HWE stack | 17:02 |
| TJ- | it comes via /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-hwe-eol | 17:13 |
| nacc | TJ-: interesting | 17:16 |
| swein | if 4.15 kernel booting of 18.04 freezes before getting to login screen, what would I do to fix it's display issues? I booted of the 4.13 kernel and did a dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 and rechose gdm3 (not lightdm) | 17:17 |
| swein | are there packages I can --reinstall to fix booting to 4.15? | 17:17 |
| nacc | swein: does it "freeze" or do you hear the cpus spin up, or something else? | 17:18 |
| nacc | swein: oh it works ok with 4.13? | 17:18 |
| swein | yeah ubuntu splash screen loads, then when it normally gives you a login screen, I only see a mouse cursor. | 17:18 |
| nacc | swein: yeah i just had this issue | 17:19 |
| nacc | swein: (I think) | 17:19 |
| swein | I did a upgrade/dist-upgrade this morning. so it likely mangled my display driver/manager up in regards to 4.15 kernel | 17:19 |
| nacc | swein: can you reboot with nomodeset and see if it works? do you have an external monitor connected? | 17:19 |
| swein | two externals. it's an Intel NUC | 17:19 |
| nacc | swein: hrm | 17:19 |
| nacc | swein: ok, so i had somethjing symptomatically very similar | 17:19 |
| nacc | swein: it turned out aht wayland was running and was (i think) crashing/pegging the cpu | 17:19 |
| swein | could be that | 17:20 |
| nacc | swein: check (from 4.13) your /etc/gdm3/custom.conf | 17:20 |
| swein | I'll remove weyland | 17:20 |
| nacc | swein: and disable the wayland option, see if that 'fixess' it | 17:20 |
| swein | custom.conf doesn't have any options uncommented | 17:21 |
| swein | #waylandEnable=false it's commented out | 17:21 |
| nacc | swein: right, the one that disables wayland is commented out by default | 17:21 |
| nacc | swein: so uncomment it :) | 17:21 |
| swein | ahh | 17:21 |
| nacc | swein: it's super confusing | 17:21 |
| nacc | (at least to me) | 17:21 |
| swein | ok rebooting to see if 4.15 loads now | 17:22 |
| nacc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1753576 | 17:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1753576 in xorg (Ubuntu) "GDM freeze" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:22 |
| nacc | swein: --^ taht's the bug i filed | 17:22 |
| nacc | i'm curious if you see the same issue, and why it's triggering for only some | 17:22 |
| swein | nacc: excellent , I'm booted in | 17:22 |
| nacc | swein: symptomatically, ihad the same problem, splash showed up on both monitors, then all of a sudden the primary laptop display shows the mouse and the normal greeter background, but then the cpu starts to peg | 17:23 |
| swein | that's what happens when you dist-upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 and keep weyland around | 17:23 |
| nacc | and the secondary display still shows a frozen splash | 17:23 |
| nacc | swein: right, but this was working fine for me until monday morning when i rebooted | 17:23 |
| nacc | i've been on 18.04 for > 1 month | 17:23 |
| nacc | so i think they fubar'd something | 17:23 |
| nacc | such that the greeter session defaulted to wayland which simply doesn't work | 17:23 |
| nacc | but i'm not 100% sure | 17:23 |
| swein | I apprecaite you helping, I'd of never thought to do that | 17:23 |
| nacc | swein: np, please subscribe to that bug and indicate you hit the same issue with the sam eworakround | 17:24 |
| nacc | *same* | 17:24 |
| swein | will do | 17:24 |
| nacc | swein: thanks! | 17:24 |
| nacc | i'll try and get the desktop folks to prioritize it, it seems likely they'd have a NUC around to use | 17:24 |
| swein | I don't know if it's intel specific. it was obviously weyland related | 17:25 |
| swein | Why are they choosing to axe weyland already? | 17:26 |
| nacc | swein: yeah, i wonder since you have remote access to yours already, you might be able to get the debugging daniel asked for in teh bug | 17:26 |
| nacc | swein: heh, it's just not the default, it's still there | 17:26 |
| nacc | swein: and because of stuff like this, i expect (it's just not readyh) | 17:26 |
| nacc | you can't do remote desktop at all (it's incompatible with the model), etc. -- some key features | 17:26 |
| swein | I'm only running 18.04 develop to test for server changes. I'll need to upgrade my org to 18.04 eventually | 17:27 |
| swein | thanks again for your help | 17:27 |
| nacc | swein: np | 17:38 |
| BenLubar | can I disable power saving mode or something? | 17:57 |
| lotuspsychje | flocculant: scanner issue solved itself after a weird dependecy hell lol | 18:56 |
| flocculant | lotuspsychje: cool - glad to hear it :) | 18:58 |
| lotuspsychje | flocculant: now simple-scan showing hp photosmart | 18:58 |
| lotuspsychje | flocculant: had one guy this morning perherhaps with grub flicker | 19:04 |
| lotuspsychje | <nikolam> when you move to select item in GRUB menu with keyboard arrows, it displays screen a bit garbled | 19:04 |
| lotuspsychje | <lotuspsychje> nikolam: this is what you experience? https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752767 | 19:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1752767 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu Artful) "grub2 regression, simultaneous console and video graphical glitches with new patch" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:04 |
| flocculant | lotuspsychje: if they're using artful I believe it's SRU/-proposed there | 19:08 |
| lotuspsychje | right | 19:09 |
| lotuspsychje | archetech-U: welcome | 19:22 |
| archetech-U | DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (development branch)" | 19:25 |
| archetech-U | :) ty | 19:25 |
| archetech-U | enjoying the G3 beta | 19:26 |
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