[01:56] <owner_> anyone know why when I hit my uefi reset cmos button on the back of my case I get the ubuntu efi boot option in the bios but after I restart again it is gone?
[01:57] <owner_> I am trying to get the dual boot option going it works fine with grub first go around then gone back to windows boot loader
[01:57] <owner_> I suppose I could put ubuntu into the windows 10 boot loader somehow.
[01:58] <owner_> could someone please send me an instruction
[01:58] <owner_> I think there was a way to rewrite the bcd with the linux boot in a program under windows but I think it was depreciated with uefi
[01:59] <owner_> also I have secure boot off
[01:59] <owner_> easybcd?
[01:59] <owner_> does it work now?
[02:00] <fareast> you guys get those message?
[03:00] <zxq9> fareast/owner: Are you still on in any form?
[06:34] <co_cari_kerja_bu> is anyone here
[06:41] <hateball> !ask | co_cari_kerja_bu
[06:57] <lordievader> Good morning
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[12:42] <lordievader> 👋
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[13:39] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[18:20] <lakitu> i notice you guys package firefox with kubuntu - big thanks
[18:21] <lakitu> good ethics at mozilla, from what i know of
[18:38] <fareast> is there a way to get an applications icon on the desktop?
[18:40] <lakitu> drag & drop, if your desktop is set to desktop/folder view layout
[18:41] <lakitu> sometime's i've had to play with the file properties, to get certain programs (e.g. jar files, etc) to run properly
[18:41] <lakitu> on the created icon
[18:41] <lakitu> sometimes*
[18:42] <lakitu> i meant to type
[20:45] <fareast> I am trying to dual boot someone help guide me I am pretty tech savy.
[20:45] <fareast> win 10 uefi and ubuntu uefi don't play, if I go ubuntu legacy will I have better chance and keeping the bios from borking?
[20:46] <mr-rich> I haven't dual booted in 20 years ...
[20:46] <fareast> I am even running on separate drives
[20:46] <fareast> well congrats
[20:46] <fareast> I don't just work on linux machines
[20:46] <fareast> I use them all
[20:46] <fareast> even android
[20:47] <mr-rich> You could try VBox instead ...
[20:47] <mr-rich> run both at the same time ... sorta
[20:47] <fareast> well yeah
[20:47] <fareast> but as far as native hardware running and not vm you have to boot it.
[20:48] <fareast> I am trying to unleash the animal.
[20:48] <mr-rich> Laptop?
[20:48] <fareast> no
[20:49] <fareast> workstation
[20:50] <fareast> I just can't believe someone hasn't made a hack to bypass the ms efi write back to the bios yet
[20:50] <fareast> I am going to google it.
[20:50] <mr-rich> Never tried to dual boot on uefi ... heard it can be nasty ...
[20:50] <fareast> yeah well ms drops their lock in there.
[20:50] <fareast> as soon as their os gains control of your bios
[20:50] <fareast> only way of getting back to linux is cmos reset to factory setup
[20:51] <mr-rich> Boot Ununtu and run Win10 as a VM ... problem solved ... :)
[20:51] <fareast> luckily i have a button that does that on the back of the case
[20:51] <fareast> no that isn't a solution
[20:51] <fareast> I need full headroom for both os
[20:51] <fareast> depending on what is going on.
[20:51] <mr-rich> is for me ... :)
[20:52] <mr-rich> I have 4 computers ... Only 1 runs M$ ... a cheap laptop ... 2 run Linux and 1 Mac ....
[20:52] <mr-rich> Bill can byte me ... :)
[20:54] <fareast> oh god
[20:54] <fareast> here is the solution
[20:54] <fareast> set a password in your bios so ms can't access it
[20:54] <fareast> simple
[20:54] <fareast> imma try it and report back
[21:04] <fareast> nothing works
[21:04] <fareast> ms is just evil
[21:05] <fareast> you can't dual boot uefi at least not on this system
[21:05] <fareast> someone said lenovo had a lockout with the password
[21:05] <fareast> prolly cause lenovo bios is built for nasa
[21:05] <fareast> and they run fedora
[21:08] <fareast> as far as using this bcdedit /set "{bootmgr}" path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[21:08] <fareast> which changes the windows boot to point to grub that just gives you a black screen now
[21:09] <fareast> like they have killed it with a if then statement or something
[21:12] <fareast> so the only solution would be boot legacy then change back to uefi if going back into windows
[21:12] <fareast> well well