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VolkodavAfter partial upgrade it offers to remove 49 packages including nvidia and gnome-desktop? Does not sound right for some reason07:14
Peace-hello guys i have a problem with my wifi , basically i can't get connected with the network manager , but iwconfig is listing my wifi and connectin to an open wifi it's working 07:15
Volkodavshould I remove them? 07:16
Peace-the problem it's that  my wifi , with wpa is not listed and even the open wifi is not listed on the network manager07:16
Peace-to make this working i have to do some command i found after analyzing the problem07:16
Peace-baically it's a problem with wpa_supplicant and systemd07:17
Peace-i have to do sudo pkill wpa_supplicant , stop systemd networkmanger.service , start again the wpa_supplicant service , and finally start again the networkmanager service 07:17
Peace-after that the network manager applet lists correctly my wifi and it connects.07:18
Peace-THIS IS WEIRD i guess a systemd\wpa_supplicant bug on some config files07:18
Peace-the errors are these :   You may have another wpa_supplicant process already running or the file was  left by an unclean termination of wpa_supplicant07:19
Peace- sup-iface[0x56547f32d5b0,wlp7s0]: error adding interface: wpa_supplicant couldn't grab this interface.07:20
Peace-and the fix it's this : sudo systemctl  stop NetworkManager.service ; sudo systemctl  stop wpa_supplicant.service  ;  sudo systemctl  start wpa_supplicant.service  ;  sudo pkill wpa_supplicant ;  sudo systemctl ;  start wpa_supplicant.service ; sleep 4 ;  sudo systemctl start NetworkManager.service07:21
Peace-+for fix i mean now i am on internet :D07:21
bcxlibcurl3 has been relabelled libcurl4 to upgrade OpenSSL dep from libssl1.0.0  to libssl1.1, not all packages have moved to libcurl4, eg cryfs10:37
bcxso you can't use sirikali (requires cryfs, even if it support other encryptors) on bionic and keep curl10:39
bcxI think sirikali, cryfs & others not ported to libssl1.1 should be quickly removed from bionic10:39
bcxas breakinf curl breaks so much stuff...10:40
bcxthe best solution would have been to 1: compile cryfs against libssl1.1, 2: remove sirikali dependency to cryfs (gocryptfs is much better)10:43
bcxmiserly, don't know if the schedule would allow this :(10:43
bcxalso I don't understand why libcurl3 & libcurl4 cannot coexist10:45
CoJaBoAchievement Unlocked: Plugged more than 3 drives into Bionic Server without it shutting off16:22
stochastixShould I be able to follow these instructions to get Ubuntu 18.10 on ZFS root ?  https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-17.10-Root-on-ZFS19:48
pgoetz18.10?19:49
stochastixI got some errors when running debootstrap bionic /mnt19:50
stochastixsorry. 18.0419:50
stochastixIt seemed to go well, except for configuring the system at the end. But I seem to be missing packages like locale-gen  and tz-data etc19:51
stochastixmaybe I should just copy over the running system of the live 18.04 ISO 19:51
stochastixI may have just messed something up along the way. Has anyone tried installing it on a zfs root yet?19:52
bcxstochastix: I did, it is ok but beware, initramfs scripts are often updated, currently not as good as in xenial but should be ok for simple cases21:02
stochastixI may have messed something up the first time, and I cleaned it all up and managed to remount things, and I just ran debootstrap again. its unpacking things right now.  Did you also run into an issue with locale-gen not being there, or when you were chrooted in, did you seem to have all the binaries?21:10
stochastixhmm, looks like I made it through debootstrap without errors this time. lets see how far I get.21:11
bcxI use chrooted scripts to configure the environment, the tricky part is boot-partion-less grub booting, especially if you use LUKS encrupted volumes21:14
bcxotherwise just use a plain boot partition it's easy21:15
stochastixYea, not using LUKS.  already things are looking better. I was even missing /et/netplan  dir last time.21:15
stochastixdebootstrap didnt finish properly the first time.21:15
bcxhostname, locale-gen, localtime, keyboard, kernel, udev and grub21:17
bcxalso think that debootstrap does not pull updates/security21:17
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stochastixOk, so i rebooted and it seems to be working. :)  A little sidetracked trying to figure out why I have no autocomplete at the prompt arg22:07
stochastixK, thats installed :)22:09
stochastixseems grub still thinks I have a windows 7 install on one of the disks, ill have to fail it out and dd the beginning of the drive and recreate and resilver it, that will be fun22:10
stochastixbcx: Im curious, when the initramfs scripts are updated, can it break things easily? Is there usually issues when upgrading kernels ?22:12
bcxcheck grub 30-os-prober for windows22:14
bcxstochastix: for simple configuration like yours I think it is safe22:14
pgoetzI installed 18.04 on a workstation with 2 GTX 1070 cards, one hooked up to a 4K monitor.  Also installed the current Nvidia 390 drivers from the PPA.  Now have this extremely strange problem.  gdm and the first user to log in get a display locked to 1080x768.  If however you use fast user switching to switch users, the next user to log in gets the full 4K display.  I didn't test with a 3rd logged in user, figuring this was already weir22:15
pgoetzd enough.22:15
pgoetzAny thoughts?22:15
bcxI use multiple roots on pool (bootable snapshots), crypto and multi-devices pools so it may break 22:15
stochastixbcx: can you recommend any good reading to wrap my head around some of what you got going on?22:17
bcxstochastix: nope, I think this is exclusive22:20
stochastixbcx: Are you doing things like cloning the filesystem and incrementing names before updating and stuff?22:26
bcxstochastix: exactly22:29
bcxstochastix: the tricky part is generally irfs & grub22:29
stochastixK, yea, I dont fully understand all of the concepts and methods for doing that. That is kind of what I was wondering about, if you might be able to recommend any reading that would help with that. 22:30
bcxI think we need sth intelligent & monolytic as systemd for irfs22:30
stochastixOf course I realize soemtimes the  reading is all over google  :)22:31
bcxgrub zfs is not documented, irfs tricks are custom22:31
stochastixDidnt know if there were any good books or documents that you remember off the top of your head that were really helpful for you 22:31
bcxlot of zfs discussions at github issues22:32
bcxAaron Toponce has written good stuff on zfs, long time ago https://pthree.org/category/zfs/22:33
stochastixYea, thats usually where the good stuff is, forums etc22:34
bcxmiserly root zfs is not the main focus for ZoL project22:34
bcxbut lxd/docker attract more people to zfs22:35
bcxso zfs may become more popular (after 15years of stability)22:36
bcxalso check out sanoid for automated snapshots22:40
bcxideally your backup server should use zfs, in that case zfs send will give you a great time machine with optimal performance22:42
bcxwhile I have been waiting for native zfs crypto to be opensourced by sun then by oracle - and never happened, zfs over LUKS (with AES-NI) gives me 500MB/sec on ssd 22:43
bcxthe only drawback is memory, at least 2GB should be given to zfs 22:44
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stochastixNice,thanks for all the good info. ZFS is amazing isnt it.23:03

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