[07:14] After partial upgrade it offers to remove 49 packages including nvidia and gnome-desktop? Does not sound right for some reason [07:15] hello guys i have a problem with my wifi , basically i can't get connected with the network manager , but iwconfig is listing my wifi and connectin to an open wifi it's working [07:16] should I remove them? [07:16] the problem it's that my wifi , with wpa is not listed and even the open wifi is not listed on the network manager [07:16] to make this working i have to do some command i found after analyzing the problem [07:17] baically it's a problem with wpa_supplicant and systemd [07:17] i have to do sudo pkill wpa_supplicant , stop systemd networkmanger.service , start again the wpa_supplicant service , and finally start again the networkmanager service [07:18] after that the network manager applet lists correctly my wifi and it connects. [07:18] THIS IS WEIRD i guess a systemd\wpa_supplicant bug on some config files [07:19] the errors are these : You may have another wpa_supplicant process already running or the file was left by an unclean termination of wpa_supplicant [07:20] sup-iface[0x56547f32d5b0,wlp7s0]: error adding interface: wpa_supplicant couldn't grab this interface. [07:21] and the fix it's this : sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager.service ; sudo systemctl stop wpa_supplicant.service ; sudo systemctl start wpa_supplicant.service ; sudo pkill wpa_supplicant ; sudo systemctl ; start wpa_supplicant.service ; sleep 4 ; sudo systemctl start NetworkManager.service [07:21] +for fix i mean now i am on internet :D [10:37] libcurl3 has been relabelled libcurl4 to upgrade OpenSSL dep from libssl1.0.0 to libssl1.1, not all packages have moved to libcurl4, eg cryfs [10:39] so you can't use sirikali (requires cryfs, even if it support other encryptors) on bionic and keep curl [10:39] I think sirikali, cryfs & others not ported to libssl1.1 should be quickly removed from bionic [10:40] as breakinf curl breaks so much stuff... [10:43] the best solution would have been to 1: compile cryfs against libssl1.1, 2: remove sirikali dependency to cryfs (gocryptfs is much better) [10:43] miserly, don't know if the schedule would allow this :( [10:45] also I don't understand why libcurl3 & libcurl4 cannot coexist [16:22] Achievement Unlocked: Plugged more than 3 drives into Bionic Server without it shutting off [19:48] Should I be able to follow these instructions to get Ubuntu 18.10 on ZFS root ? https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-17.10-Root-on-ZFS [19:49] 18.10? [19:50] I got some errors when running debootstrap bionic /mnt [19:50] sorry. 18.04 [19:51] It seemed to go well, except for configuring the system at the end. But I seem to be missing packages like locale-gen and tz-data etc [19:51] maybe I should just copy over the running system of the live 18.04 ISO [19:52] I may have just messed something up along the way. Has anyone tried installing it on a zfs root yet? [21:02] stochastix: I did, it is ok but beware, initramfs scripts are often updated, currently not as good as in xenial but should be ok for simple cases [21:10] I may have messed something up the first time, and I cleaned it all up and managed to remount things, and I just ran debootstrap again. its unpacking things right now. Did you also run into an issue with locale-gen not being there, or when you were chrooted in, did you seem to have all the binaries? [21:11] hmm, looks like I made it through debootstrap without errors this time. lets see how far I get. [21:14] I use chrooted scripts to configure the environment, the tricky part is boot-partion-less grub booting, especially if you use LUKS encrupted volumes [21:15] otherwise just use a plain boot partition it's easy [21:15] Yea, not using LUKS. already things are looking better. I was even missing /et/netplan dir last time. [21:15] debootstrap didnt finish properly the first time. [21:17] hostname, locale-gen, localtime, keyboard, kernel, udev and grub [21:17] also think that debootstrap does not pull updates/security === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [22:07] Ok, so i rebooted and it seems to be working. :) A little sidetracked trying to figure out why I have no autocomplete at the prompt arg [22:09] K, thats installed :) [22:10] seems grub still thinks I have a windows 7 install on one of the disks, ill have to fail it out and dd the beginning of the drive and recreate and resilver it, that will be fun [22:12] bcx: Im curious, when the initramfs scripts are updated, can it break things easily? Is there usually issues when upgrading kernels ? [22:14] check grub 30-os-prober for windows [22:14] stochastix: for simple configuration like yours I think it is safe [22:15] I installed 18.04 on a workstation with 2 GTX 1070 cards, one hooked up to a 4K monitor. Also installed the current Nvidia 390 drivers from the PPA. Now have this extremely strange problem. gdm and the first user to log in get a display locked to 1080x768. If however you use fast user switching to switch users, the next user to log in gets the full 4K display. I didn't test with a 3rd logged in user, figuring this was already weir [22:15] d enough. [22:15] Any thoughts? [22:15] I use multiple roots on pool (bootable snapshots), crypto and multi-devices pools so it may break [22:17] bcx: can you recommend any good reading to wrap my head around some of what you got going on? [22:20] stochastix: nope, I think this is exclusive [22:26] bcx: Are you doing things like cloning the filesystem and incrementing names before updating and stuff? [22:29] stochastix: exactly [22:29] stochastix: the tricky part is generally irfs & grub [22:30] K, yea, I dont fully understand all of the concepts and methods for doing that. That is kind of what I was wondering about, if you might be able to recommend any reading that would help with that. [22:30] I think we need sth intelligent & monolytic as systemd for irfs [22:31] Of course I realize soemtimes the reading is all over google :) [22:31] grub zfs is not documented, irfs tricks are custom [22:31] Didnt know if there were any good books or documents that you remember off the top of your head that were really helpful for you [22:32] lot of zfs discussions at github issues [22:33] Aaron Toponce has written good stuff on zfs, long time ago https://pthree.org/category/zfs/ [22:34] Yea, thats usually where the good stuff is, forums etc [22:34] miserly root zfs is not the main focus for ZoL project [22:35] but lxd/docker attract more people to zfs [22:36] so zfs may become more popular (after 15years of stability) [22:40] also check out sanoid for automated snapshots [22:42] ideally your backup server should use zfs, in that case zfs send will give you a great time machine with optimal performance [22:43] while I have been waiting for native zfs crypto to be opensourced by sun then by oracle - and never happened, zfs over LUKS (with AES-NI) gives me 500MB/sec on ssd [22:44] the only drawback is memory, at least 2GB should be given to zfs === czesmir_ is now known as czesmir [23:03] Nice,thanks for all the good info. ZFS is amazing isnt it.