[04:28] <duflu> tjaalton, might be worth checking if most of these are now resolved :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390
[04:43] <duflu> robert_ancell, jetlagged much?
[04:47] <robert_ancell> duflu, might have woken up a little early this morning...
[05:53] <tjaalton> duflu: indeed
[06:09] <tsimonq2> Going through the sponsorship queue, I wonder why this shows up under things ~motu can sponsor... https://code.launchpad.net/~cosmos-door/unity-settings-daemon/lp1514544-zesty/+merge/321005
[06:09] <tsimonq2> Same with https://code.launchpad.net/~kaihengfeng/unity-settings-daemon/lp1683445/+merge/323833
[07:36] <willcooke> morning all
[07:37] <duflu> Morning willcooke, seb128
[07:37] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:37] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[07:38] <duflu> seb128, I've had better days but more worse ones...
[07:38]  * duflu shrugs
[07:38] <duflu> How are you seb128?
[07:38] <seb128> I'm good so far :)
[08:03] <duflu> Trevinho, btw just noticed these go back a few years. Might be time for a cleanout... https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/ubuntu-themes/trunk/+activereviews
[08:14] <didrocks> good morning
[08:18] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:18] <Laney> what's up?
[08:19] <didrocks> hey Laney, nothing special, sunny this morning, going to rain this afternoon. And for you?
[08:22] <Laney> didrocks: yeah nice to hang out with everyone, but... my ear got blocked at the pool on monday and it's not cleared yet
[08:22] <Laney> so this is getting me down :(
[08:23]  * Laney knows you will sympathise :(
[08:23] <didrocks> argh, hoping you won't get the same than I :(
[08:23] <Laney> Marco has been my doctor with the ear drops
[08:23] <Laney> but they didn't do much yet
[08:25] <duflu> didrocks, I regressed too. Facing 1.5 years of it now
[08:25] <didrocks> Laney: ear drops wasn't really what I needed when this happened… maybe get to a doctor?
[08:25] <Laney> yeah when I get back
[08:25] <Laney> was trying to clear the water out if there was any
[08:25] <Laney> how is it for you now btw?
[08:26] <didrocks> the ear is unblocked, but tinnitus is horrible depending on the day
[08:26] <Mirv> am I in the right place, is this the ear block club meeting?
[08:27] <Laney> are you in the club or telling us to get back on topic?
[08:28] <Mirv> both :D I'm in the club, my other ear needs constant care but it's ok, and no tinnitus
[08:31] <Mirv> ah, mesa + qt now get along again, nice
[08:32] <Mirv> ...and I know these days better so that I won't go to holidays involving pools without preparation, so that I won't end up spending the 90% of the trip blocked
[08:35] <Laney> get me out of this club!
[08:39]  * didrocks wants too…
[08:43] <seb128> I wonder if I should leave this channel before I get incorporated in that club
[08:43] <didrocks> :)
[08:55] <duflu> koza, willcooke, seb128, is the scheduled bluetooth meeting happening now or another day?
[08:55] <duflu> *or rescheduled
[08:56] <seb128> the normal weekly one is not
[08:56] <seb128> we should look at putting one maybe tomorrow?
[08:56] <seb128> willcooke, ^
[08:59] <willcooke> duflu, it's not happening today
[08:59] <duflu> Yeah that's a general statement of affairs too
[08:59] <duflu> For my end
[09:00] <willcooke> duflu, call it EOD and get a beer?
[09:00] <duflu> willcooke, ha, gluten-free beer maybe. Got none
[09:00] <willcooke> :(
[09:22] <robert_ancell> jdstrand, FYI I've implemented you and mpts descriptions from the "Snap interfaces GUI descriptions" spreadsheet into bionic GNOME Software
[09:25] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, great!
[09:28] <jdstrand> robert_ancell: awesome! so, that means interface connecctions work?
[09:44] <oSoMoN> sergiusens, hey, are you still seeing bug #1711190 with the latest libreoffice snap?
[09:44] <ubot5`> bug 1711190 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] Presentation mode blank" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1711190
[09:45] <sergiusens> oSoMoN: I don't think so, but I'd have to check (new install with no libre office yet, also on a different environment, kde neon)
[09:48] <oSoMoN> sergiusens, ack, feel free to re-open the bug if it's still valid when you get a chance to re-test, otherwise I'll assume it's gone for good
[10:56] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, flexiondotorg was very excited to see the connections interface in gnome-software
[10:56] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, it's published in edge now as well
[10:57] <flexiondotorg> Actual vibrating :-)
[10:57] <sarnold> oh that vibrating was you? :)
[10:58] <robert_ancell> haha :)
[10:58] <robert_ancell> flexiondotorg, let me know when you guys aren't meeting, I've got some questions
[11:01] <jbicha> kenvandine: does the gnome-characters snap actually need the home plug? Do you want me to file a bug?
[11:02] <kenvandine> jbicha, pleaes file a bug
[11:03] <kenvandine> jbicha, do you think it needs fontconfig from bionic?
[11:03] <kenvandine> for color emoji
[11:05] <jbicha> we needed fontconfig for the color emoji feature to work in bionic for the overrides so maybe?
[11:06] <kenvandine> that's what i'm thinking
[11:33] <GunnarHj> Won't gnome-weather be installed by default as in vanilla GNOME (bug #1707717)? Asking because I think it's a pleasant feature.
[11:33] <ubot5`> bug 1707717 in gnome-weather (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gnome-weather" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707717
[12:32] <seb128> pitti, hey
[12:32] <seb128> pitti, is that command correct or am I doing something stupid? "umockdev-run -d files/powershot.umockdev -i /dev/bus/usb/001/015=files/powershot.ioctl  -- gvfs-mount -l"
[12:46] <pitti> seb128: looks generally fine; but note that ioctl emulation is buggy these days, there was some change in libusb or libc or what not
[12:47] <seb128> pitti, bionic still has glib 2.16
[12:47] <seb128> I'm doing something wrong because that gvfs command doesn't list a camera
[12:47] <seb128> but the gvfs test script does work so it sees one
[13:43] <seb128> pitti, is there any reason the umockdev autopkgtest don't install gphoto2? "/umockdev-run/integration/gphoto-detect: [SKIP: gphoto2 not installed] OK"
[13:44] <pitti> seb128: not sure any more, I'm afraid; I might just have forgotten it
[13:45] <seb128> pitti, k, I'm trying to figure out why libgphoto makes gvfs 2.5.16 tests unhappy, I guess it goes down to ioctl record that needs updating or something
[13:45] <pitti> yes, very likely
[13:45] <seb128> but i'm at a sprint without a camera to try so trying to guess poking at it from diff/commits
[13:46] <pitti> usually the format breaks if libusb or libgphoto change the protocol
[13:46] <seb128> I don't see anything that obviously look like a protocol change in the commits
[13:46] <pitti> I'm actually surprised the test has worked until now - I thought the similar one from libmtp was killed a long time ago
[13:48] <seb128> you now make me want to just disable it :p
[13:49] <pitti> updating it is one thing, but the ioctl recording/replaying feature is broken in general these days (see above)
[13:49] <pitti> so at least from my side it's not just a simple case of re-doing the recording
[13:49] <pitti> and I don't have time for that this week, so indeed disabling the test is okay for now
[13:49] <seb128> pitti, thx
[13:50] <pitti> (this requires quire some research what changed, and re-fix/think ioctl recording/replay, etc.)
[13:50] <jbicha> reminds me of the shotwell autopkgtests we killed last year
[13:50] <pitti> ah, these were the ones, not libmtp, right
[13:50] <seb128> k, well it doesn't look obviously buggy atm
[13:50] <seb128> but maybe it is with glibc 2.17 from bionic-proposed
[13:50] <seb128> I didn't try with that one
[14:04] <Laney> jbicha: didrocks: Going to do a git-buildpackage tutorial / skill sharing session tomorrow 15:00 UTC, do you want to join via hangout?
[14:05] <didrocks> Laney: sure
[14:05] <Laney> ♥
[14:05] <didrocks> Laney: think about sharing your screen for the examples and such :)
[14:05] <Laney> probably use gvfs as an example update with delta, so please leave that one
[14:07] <Nafallo> seb128: they've got a shopping mall about 40 minutes walk from the hotel, if that helps? :-)
[14:08] <jbicha> Laney: ok
[14:08] <Laney> k00l
[14:08] <Nafallo> seb128: https://goo.gl/maps/LmnsBgs8QUq
[14:09] <Nafallo> actually only half hour, 2km :-)
[14:30] <didrocks> Laney: is there any patch to rebase on that one? That would be a cool way to demonstrate gbp patch workflow and have everyone fall in love with it :)
[14:33] <Laney> didrocks: there is a patch, not sure it will require rebooting
[14:34] <didrocks> Laney: maybe just fake adding a new patch, and then, refresh (unfuzz) the first one?
[14:36] <Laney> rebasing****
[14:36] <Laney> can do I guess
[14:51] <seb128> bah, should have added some headers to that gvfs patch, let's do that tomorrow
[14:52] <seb128> when we do the git exercice :)
[14:52] <didrocks> heh
[14:53] <jbicha> GunnarHj: do you want to ask your Weather question on community.ubuntu.com? Some people didn't see your question here
[14:55] <Laney> I missed it, sorry
[14:56] <Laney> GunnarHj: I think we're in favour but there is limited time available in the MIR team so it depends on whether it can be reviewed
[14:56] <jbicha> Laney: so um, how do MIRs work for snap apps?
[14:57] <Laney> looks like it sat for most of a cycle :'(
[14:57] <Laney> jbicha: they don't
[14:57] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSeededSnaps
[14:58] <Laney> if you're suggesting including gnome-weather as a snap on the image, does the shell integration / geoclue stuff work?
[14:58] <jbicha> oh
[14:59] <kenvandine> jibel, seb128: new thunderbird snap in edge, i don't get any theme errors from this build
[15:00] <jbicha> I don't see a snap for gnome-weather yet either
[15:00] <Laney> (is there a snap?)
[15:00] <Laney> :P
[15:00] <kenvandine> no
[15:00] <Laney> sidestepping most Ubuntu processes is one thing that snaps have that is different to debs
[15:00] <kenvandine> well, i have a WIP somewhere
[15:00] <Laney> whether that's an advantage or not depends on who you ask :-)
[15:01] <jbicha> like the DMB doesn't have oversight over snap uploaders right now
[15:01] <sarnold> autopackage tests making it hard to migrate changes? put it in a snap! no tests :)
[15:01] <jbicha> I don't know, best not to ask too many questions… :)
[15:03] <seb128> jbicha, I don't think he's going to get more replies on the community hub, that's a bit of a misleading comment to push him into nagging :)
[15:05] <jbicha> seb128: maybe I should have just pinged you then since it looked to me like you were offline when he asked :)
[15:06] <seb128> GunnarHj, jbicha, the situation didn't change from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2017-June/004988.html afaik
[15:18] <GunnarHj> jbicha, Laney, seb128: Crossing my fingers then. I've had gnome-weather installed for a few months due to a couple of translation issues I was involved in, and kind of like the thing. Especially the fact that a forecast summary shows up if you click the clock.
[15:18] <seb128> GunnarHj, I wouldn't count on it for the reasons discussed on the list topic I shared
[15:19] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, I see.
[15:19] <seb128> but it's available in the archive and users can install it easily
[15:33] <Laney> xnox: did you make plymouth work with hidpi?
[15:33] <Laney> if so, you BEAUTY!
[15:40] <xnox> Laney, totes amazing, right?! and yeah, it was me.
[15:40] <xnox> Laney, do you have a minute to talk about plymouth?
[15:40] <Laney> umm can do
[15:40] <Laney> you probably won't get much useful out of me though
[15:53] <Trevinho> pitti: hey we had a build depends on ubuntu-thems that was build-depending on scour
[15:53] <Trevinho> pitti: as https://launchpadlibrarian.net/359882241/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.ubuntu-themes_16.10+18.04.20180307.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:54] <Trevinho> pitti: I noticed you mentioned you split python3-scour with scour package
[15:54] <Trevinho> pitti: so should we add a depends on that now or what?
[15:55] <jbicha> Trevinho: change the Build-Depends to 'scour'
[15:55] <Laney> we just want to know if it was intended to break build-rdeps or not
[15:55] <Trevinho> jbicha: sure, that will work, but...
[15:55] <Trevinho> eh
[15:59] <jbicha> Laney: I think it only breaks packages that were updated in the month between scour 0.36-1 and 0.36-2. The older python-scour has a compatibility Depends: scour
[16:03] <pitti> Trevinho: right, this ^ compat dependency was suposed to catch that
[16:03] <pitti> but I suppose this b-dep'ed on python3-scour
[16:03] <pitti> so this indeed will need to be updated, sorry
[16:06] <Laney> hey pitti, how's it going?
[16:07] <Laney> we're missing you here in budapest!
[16:09] <pitti> Laney: I'm great, thanks! yourself?
[16:09]  * pitti bbl, sorry
[19:49] <jbicha> Laney: the appstream generator appears to have not run for bionic in a week
[20:57] <amano> jbicha, when I open a file from within nautilus gedit makes nautilus crash
[20:58] <amano> is that a known bug? a nautilus regression? a gedit regression
[20:58] <amano> ?
[21:00] <amano> or is that gedit-plugins not being updated yet?
[21:08] <jbicha> amano: please file a bug for that. It shouldn't have anything to do with gedit-plugins
[21:26] <amano> Done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/1754169
[21:26] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1754169 in gedit (Ubuntu) "[Bionic] Nautilus 3.27.92 crashes when a file is opened with gedit by right-clicking it" [Undecided,New]