/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/03/07/#ubuntu-release.txt

* cyphermox has cinderella syndrome and logs off.00:00
slangasekfossfreedom: hi, so the livecd-rootfs change has landed to install snaps from marked channels, for future-proofing, as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSeededSnaps; you'll need to open the stable/ubuntu-18.04 branch for ubuntu-budgie-welcome (after which you can close it again)00:00
infinitybudgie-welcome?00:01
infinityDoes it come with all the same fun that mate-welcome does?00:01
slangasekunknown to me00:01
slangasekbut it currently causes a build failure00:01
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306.1) has been added00:05
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306.1) has been added00:06
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306.1) has been added00:06
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306.1) has been added00:06
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306) has been added00:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306) has been added00:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306.1) has been added00:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306.1) has been added00:08
mwhudsonslangasek: would it be productive for me to stare at update_output.txt re: those packages you were complaining about?00:13
slangasekmwhudson: I got it sorted, adding cmake to the hint made everything happy00:18
mwhudsonslangasek: woot00:18
slangasekI believe it will all migrate in the next run00:18
tsimonq2\o\ /o/ \o\ /o/00:18
slangasekwhich I only worked out via lp:~laney/ubuntu-archive-tools/update-output-helper00:18
slangasekthe beta1 freeze also blocks the libunistring freeze now, though.  do lubuntu want that unblocked?00:19
* mwhudson runs watch -n 60 -g 'curl --silent http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-proposed/{main,universe,restricted,multiverse}/source/Sources.gz | zcat | grep-dctrl -sPackage . | wc -l'00:20
wxltbh i doubt we care too much slangasek :)00:20
* tsimonq2 thinks that lp:ubuntu-archive-tools should be converted to Git. :P00:21
slangasekwxl: considering this is a library transition that actually affects /your/ packages, I would be looking for an affirmative indication that you want it accepted before beta, rather than just "don't care"00:22
wxlslangasek: put differently, i think lubuntu would be fine either way, but feel free to unblock it.00:23
bashfulrobotslangasek: hi there, I might be able to help out with your question to fossfreedom.00:40
slangasekbashfulrobot: if you have collaborator rights on the snap00:41
bashfulrobotI'm the one who published it originally. I have access to that account. I'm also the one who has interacted with the form to get the classic confinement and everything done. <---- slangasek00:46
slangasekk then :)00:47
slangasekbashfulrobot: then please open the 'ubuntu-18.04' branch, then close it again00:48
slangasekbashfulrobot: once that's done, someone can kick off another candidate build for beat100:49
slangasekbeta100:49
bashfulrobotslangasek: are you talking about within the snap dashboard? Or another location?01:10
mwhudsonwhat's with all the failing ruby autopkgtests01:20
tsimonq2s/ruby/node/01:22
mwhudsonand not or01:23
tsimonq2heh right01:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: ukwm (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.1.7-0ubuntu1]01:27
tsimonq2handsome_feng: ^^^^01:30
handsome_fengtsimonq2: Thanks!01:32
=== maclin1 is now known as maclin
tsimonq2handsome_feng: np!01:32
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: peony-extensions (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.1.1-0ubuntu1]01:52
infinitymwhudson: Do they take the form of ruby (perhaps just 2.3) whining about not being able to load external bits?01:55
infinitymwhudson: If so, I ran into that earlier, and it warrants looking at, I think (or dropping ruby2.3, if that was planned for bionic)01:55
mwhudsoninfinity: yes, seems so01:55
infinitymwhudson: I suppose it's plausible that ruby's custom dlopen-like loader is broken with glibc 2.7, but because we only trigger direct rdeps, not rdeps of rdeps, we didn't get coverage on that.01:59
infinitymwhudson: Anything that grubs around at the ELF level trying to be tricky is skating on thin ice.01:59
infinity*cough*ffi*cough*01:59
mwhudsonhaha01:59
infinitys/2.7/2.27/02:00
infinityThat missing 2 made that a very confusing statement.02:00
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: kylin-video (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.1.5-0ubuntu1]02:29
mwhudsonheh heh http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/golang-github-hashicorp-atlas-go/bionic/amd6403:39
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: proftpd-dfsg (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.3.5a-1build1 => 1.3.5a-1.1] (no packageset)05:45
tsimonq2That sponsoree for proftpd-dfsg has been waiting three months for someone to upload that, so it'd be good if someone could process that fairly soon.05:47
flocculantinfinity tsimonq2 - interesting discussion re milestones06:00
infinitytsimonq2: Was that a sync from Debian?06:01
infinitytsimonq2: If not, you misspelled '1ubuntu1'06:02
tsimonq2infinity: sigh, indeed I did.06:03
tsimonq2infinity: There, reject the oldest one in the queue, I uploaded one with the right version number.06:04
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: proftpd-dfsg (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.3.5a-1build1 => 1.3.5a-1ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)06:05
tsimonq2infinity: ^^^ better, right?06:05
tsimonq2flocculant: I'll probably go over the notes this weekend and draft a proposal or something.06:06
flocculanttsimonq2: works for me - I know I often tell you my position, but it does come from thought, not just to make you lol a bit ;)06:07
* flocculant particularly likes not publishing them06:07
tsimonq2flocculant: heh :)06:07
slangasekbashfulrobot: yes, it can be done through the snap dashboard.  Maybe it can also be done through the snapcraft CLI, but I'm not sure what the command would be there06:12
slangasekmwhudson, infinity: get ruby-defaults to migrate, so ruby in bionic release actually points to ruby2.5; then retest with ruby2.5; then tell the ruby maintainers to fix their interpreter package so that transitions are managed correctly like python, instead of leaving us with a set of packages which is installable but inconsistent.06:14
slangasekflexiondotorg: hi, same thing for ubuntu-mate as for ubuntu-budgie above: pulsemixer needs an ubuntu-18.04 branch opened in the snap store so that the liveCD can install it in a way that's conformant with the seeded snap policy06:16
mwhudsonslangasek: ahah06:18
mwhudsonstep 1 looks like heaps of fun06:18
flexiondotorgslangasek: Do you mean a track?06:19
slangasekflexiondotorg: no, a branch06:20
flexiondotorgWhat ia the purpose of the branch?06:21
slangasekflexiondotorg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSeededSnaps#Channel_availability06:21
* flexiondotorg reads... 06:21
slangasekflexiondotorg: it needs to be opened once and then you can close it; but if it's never been opened, the snap client can't pin the branch, so there is no escape hatch if in the future you need to diverge from the 'stable' channel06:22
bashfulrobotslangasek: thanks for the clarification. I just wasn't sure if you were referencing that or else where, say LP.06:47
xnoxjamespage, pinging slangasek to review percona stuff....07:07
bashfulrobotslangasek: I must be missing something. I don't see anywhere to create a branch in the snap dashboard. Still looking. Or I'm bind.07:21
flexiondotorgslangasek: pulsemixer branch for ubuntu-18.04 has been opened and closed.07:35
flexiondotorgbashfulrobot: You need to use snapcraft.07:35
flexiondotorg`snapcraft release --help`07:36
acheronukwhen is the deadline for deciding to include snaps or not?07:38
slangasekflexiondotorg: thanks, retrying the ubuntu-mate build07:44
flexiondotorgslangasek: I assume I'll need to do the same for other seeded snap on Ubuntu MATE.07:47
slangasekflexiondotorg: heh, yes07:48
flexiondotorgdoing it now....07:48
slangasekflexiondotorg: sorry, I hadn't checked the seeds07:48
flexiondotorgslangasek: All done.07:53
flexiondotorgslangasek: Here comes some build logs for the armhf build failues we discussed yesterday.07:56
flexiondotorghttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/359270302/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_xenial_armhf_software-boutique_BUILDING.txt.gz07:56
slangasekwgrant: ^^07:56
slangasek:)07:56
flexiondotorghttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/359118374/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_xenial_armhf_software-boutique_BUILDING.txt.gz07:57
flexiondotorghttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/359270343/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_xenial_armhf_ubuntu-mate-welcome_BUILDING.txt.gz07:58
flexiondotorghttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/359118572/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_xenial_armhf_ubuntu-mate-welcome_BUILDING.txt.gz07:58
flexiondotorgslangasek wgrant Those failures were alongside successful builds on amd64, arm64 and i386.07:59
bashfulrobotflexiondotorg: thanks for the clarification!!07:59
flexiondotorgbashfulrobot: yw :-)07:59
wgrantslangasek, flexiondotorg: Isn't that just the snapcraft !x86 SRU regression?08:06
wgranthttps://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/commit/84aaac591a0a3578d91e2a0e25bfb9ce8e546a8308:06
bashfulrobotslangasek: I released to stable/ubuntu-18.04 for 32/64bit08:21
bashfulrobotSo we should be good to trigger the build08:22
bashfulrobotI'll leave the branch for now until we know the seeds work, then I'll remove it later.08:23
bashfulrobothttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Sa5T5Vxt08:24
bashfulrobotI'm heading off to bed, but will check in tomorrow slangasek . Thanks for the heads up.08:25
* bashfulrobot passing out08:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (trusty-proposed/partner) [191.0.0-0ubuntu1~14.04.0 => 191.0.0-0ubuntu2~14.04.0] (no packageset)08:26
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (xenial-proposed/partner) [191.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.04.0 => 191.0.0-0ubuntu2~16.04.0] (no packageset)08:26
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (artful-proposed/partner) [191.0.0-0ubuntu1~17.10.0 => 191.0.0-0ubuntu2~17.10.0] (no packageset)08:26
xnoxslangasek, https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/britney/crushing-failure-and-despair/+merge/34094008:33
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/britney/+bug/175394008:33
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1753940 in snapd (Ubuntu) "go vet causing Crushing failure and despair" [Undecided,New]08:33
xnoxphilroche, ^ that's the bug to watch.... a move on above, should make systemd migrate08:34
sil2100LocutusOfBorg: hey! re: virtualbox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1746316/comments/608:35
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1746316 in virtualbox (Ubuntu Artful) "[SRU] VirtualBox needs Security Patches" [Undecided,In progress]08:35
cyphermoxcould someone on the release team please review my MP?  https://code.launchpad.net/~cyphermox/britney/+git/britney2-ubuntu/+merge/34086408:43
cyphermoxalso, https://code.launchpad.net/~cyphermox/ubuntu-archive-tools/component-mismatches-mir/+merge/34093908:43
slangasekbashfulrobot: now having released to stable/ubuntu-18.04, you probably want to close that branch again so you don't have to do additional work to keep it in sync with stable :)09:21
xnoxslangasek, do you not agree with merging https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/britney/crushing-failure-and-despair/+merge/340940 ? please =)09:57
Laneyit is merged09:59
slangasek+ This package contains the debugging symbols for the Percona XtraDB Cluster binaries.10:13
slangasekjamespage: ^^ no new -dbg packages in Ubuntu for debug symbols; nack on this10:13
slangasekjamespage: ah; it's not a regression vs. percona 5.6, despite debian/control being reordered and largely undiffable.  But can we get this fixed with priority?10:14
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.7.20-29.24-0ubuntu1]10:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted google-cloud-sdk [source] (artful-proposed) [191.0.0-0ubuntu2~17.10.0]10:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted google-cloud-sdk [source] (xenial-proposed) [191.0.0-0ubuntu2~16.04.0]10:22
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted google-cloud-sdk [source] (trusty-proposed) [191.0.0-0ubuntu2~14.04.0]10:22
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.7.20-29.24-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)10:43
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.7.20-29.24-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)10:50
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.7.20-29.24-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)10:57
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xnoxLaney, but I am a twat and proposed invalid thing11:06
Laneynaughty xnox11:15
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 [armhf] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.7.20-29.24-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)11:37
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.7.20-29.24-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)11:40
ginggswould someone please bump in vorlon's hints? 'force-badtest r-cran-curl/3.1-2/arm64'12:10
slangasekginggs: why, instead of disabling the test on arm64?12:26
slangasekginggs: and why syncing a new version of the package that is identical to what I already had?12:27
ginggsslangasek: 1) I didn't notice it had previously failed on arm64 until after I uploaded. 2) So that other people don't have to spend time on it12:36
slangasekginggs: I don't see why anyone would be spending any time on this, post-FF12:47
slangasekginggs: including you12:47
Odd_Blokedoko: I was told to ping you about the Ruby transition; how close are we to all Ruby scripts using 2.5 by default in bionic?12:48
Odd_Blokedoko: I'm more-reliably-informed that I can bug other people instead, so never mind. :)12:52
Odd_Blokexnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Fc7bW29K8/14:11
xnoxrbalint, ^14:13
bashfulrobotslangasek: sounds good. Appreciate the pointer (re: closing branch).14:51
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sahara-dashboard (xenial-proposed/universe) [4.0.0-1 => 4.0.0-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)14:56
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: golang-1.10 (artful-backports/primary) [1.10-1ubuntu1~17.10.1]16:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: golang-1.10 (xenial-backports/primary) [1.10-1ubuntu1~16.04.1]16:10
Odd_Blokeslangasek: xnox: If there's a specific autopkgtest that won't run on Ubuntu (for good reasons), is uploading an Ubuntu version that drops that test the appropriate thing to do?16:14
naccOdd_Bloke: I've done that for some packages, I've also added a quilt patch that skips it with a reason, if possible16:14
slangasekOdd_Bloke: yes16:18
bashfulrobot@infinity: could you possibly kick off a build for Ubuntu budgie? We had to add a branch for our seeded snap package. But we couldn't kick it off from the QA ISO tracker.16:19
slangasekbashfulrobot: I'll take a look16:20
bashfulrobotThanks!16:20
Odd_Blokenacc: quilt patch patching debian/tests/foo?16:21
bashfulrobotslangasek: quick side question. These branches for seeded snaps. Are they just a one time thing for seeded snaps? Or what is the scenario in which these branches need to be created for seeded snaps?16:21
naccOdd_Bloke: oh it depends on the tests, i meant like if the dep8 is just running upstream tests, they might be in the source16:22
naccOdd_Bloke: if not, then no quilt patch, obviously16:22
Odd_BlokeAh, OK, I didn't think so but was just checking.16:22
Odd_BlokeThis is just a shell script; would deleting it be the right path, or adding an exit 0 with an explanatory comment?16:23
naccOdd_Bloke: you're removing all the tests?16:24
Odd_Blokenacc: There are two shell script tests; one of them is useful on Ubuntu, the other would require a multiverse package to run on Ubuntu.16:25
Odd_Bloke(This is vagrant, FWIW.)16:25
slangasekbashfulrobot: the branch needs to be opened for each Ubuntu release in order to create images for that release that include that snap16:26
naccOdd_Bloke: ah I see; then yes, I imagine dropping it with a changelog entry is probably sufficient (is this debian delta?)16:27
Odd_BlokeYeah, this would be delta from Debian.16:27
Odd_Blokenacc: Cool, thanks for the guidance.16:27
naccOdd_Bloke: yeah, that seems appropriate to me16:27
Odd_Blokeslangasek: So my next question, in the spirit of being thoughtful about packages are already in -proposed: Vagrant is currently failing due to the Ruby transition (as discussed at length :p), but the autopkgtests will continue to fail after that's resolved; I'm fixing that secondary failure.  Should I wait to upload until the first blockage is cleared?16:28
bashfulrobotslangasek: okay. Thank you for the clarification. So basically this would be a one-time thing for 18.04. And then a one-time thing for 18.10, and then another thing for 19.04 and forward. Per seeded snap. Open branch. Perform build. Remove branch. Got it.16:29
slangasekOdd_Bloke: I don't see any reason to wait.  Which source package is this for?  vagrant itself, or vagrant-mutate which blocks qemu?16:31
Odd_Blokevagrant itself.16:31
slangasekbashfulrobot: exactly16:31
slangasekOdd_Bloke: yeah, vagrant/2.0.2+dfsg-2build1 isn't going anywhere on its own right now, no need to wait because it's not magically resolving itself in the near term.  *however*, we should trigger some --all-proposed retests of vagrant, either now or later16:32
Odd_BlokeAck; just uploaded.16:32
Odd_Blokecpaelzer: FYI: ^16:33
Odd_Blokeruby-turbolinks could use a test rebuild with the ruby-defaults in -proposed.16:42
bashfulrobotslangasek:16:42
bashfulrobotperfect.16:42
cpaelzer_Odd_Bloke: slangasek: already triggered the all proposed test about two hours ago16:42
bashfulrobothave a great day. let me know if you need anythign else on the ISO build16:42
cpaelzer_checking results now ...16:42
cpaelzer_no new results in yet16:43
slangasekcpaelzer_: then I don't think you successfully triggered16:44
slangasekbecause queues are quite empty16:44
cpaelzer_yes I just checked the queues, it is not there16:44
Odd_BlokeThis specific upload was also ~2 hours ago, so could have missed a retrigger anyway.16:45
cpaelzer_Odd_Bloke: it will not retrigger the test of "others"16:45
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rax-nova-agent [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2.1.12-0ubuntu2]16:45
Odd_Blokecpaelzer_: Oh, the all-proposed test of vagrant?16:46
cpaelzer_I found it16:46
cpaelzer_Odd_Bloke: the rebuild of yours made the trigger target unavailable16:46
slangasekxnox: do you have any insight into whether the rails autopkgtest failure is broken test vs broken code?16:47
cpaelzer_in queue now slangasek / Odd_Bloke16:49
Odd_BlokeThanks!16:49
cpaelzer_fixed my triggers to use the new vagrnat rebuild properly (all-proposed takes care of that anyway)16:49
cpaelzer_so test should (tm) succeed and qemu be good for now16:49
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-1.10 [source] (artful-backports) [1.10-1ubuntu1~17.10.1]16:57
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-1.10 [source] (xenial-backports) [1.10-1ubuntu1~16.04.1]16:57
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180307) has been added16:58
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180307) has been added16:58
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.10 [i386] (artful-backports/universe) [1.10-1ubuntu1~17.10.1] (no packageset)17:05
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cpaelzerslangasek: on the seed changes, just today we realized that openbsd-inetd should also be demoted17:18
cpaelzerit has nothing holding it in main than the seed itself17:18
cpaelzerand all it did in the past is no more important17:18
cpaelzerso I'll make this part of the MP as well17:19
cpaelzerif you have concerns, please let me know17:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.10 [arm64] (artful-backports/universe) [1.10-1ubuntu1~17.10.1] (no packageset)17:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.10 [arm64] (xenial-backports/universe) [1.10-1ubuntu1~16.04.1] (no packageset)17:20
acheronuk[23:43] <mwhudson> tsimonq2: ok, the canonical vcs is the ubuntu archive!!17:20
acheronuka bit hard to do a merge request against that in lp17:20
acheronukI guess a bug report and debdiff them17:22
acheronuk*then17:22
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.10 [armhf] (artful-backports/universe) [1.10-1ubuntu1~17.10.1] (no packageset)17:22
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.10 [armhf] (xenial-backports/universe) [1.10-1ubuntu1~16.04.1] (no packageset)17:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: git-ubuntu, hint hint17:26
* tsimonq2 nudges nacc17:26
tsimonq2:)17:26
nacctsimonq2: yeah yeah yeah17:26
nacctsimonq2: we're doing a 1% phasing of main right now17:26
nacc(currenlty reimporting everything in our whitelist + 1% of main)17:26
acheronuktsimonq2: lol. I knew someone would pipe up with that!17:27
naccdepending on how that goes (it's progressing nicely, but will take a few more days to finish)17:27
naccwe'll up the phasing to 2% next week :)17:27
tsimonq2nacc: Ah ok. ooc, how do you determine these percentages?17:27
Odd_Blokeslangasek: Also: https://github.com/rails/rails/commit/be9dc78fccc80bb5045c67b435b5c7e36ea8a29617:28
acheronuktsimonq2: (done/notdone)*10017:28
* acheronuk hides17:28
nacctsimonq2: determine as in which way? the value of them (we specify it to the scripts) or what they mean (md5sum(srcpkg name) < phasing percentage * 2^128, just like the -updates phasing)17:29
nacctsimonq2: the 1% is to see how the phasing affects the package count, as well as time, and space on Launchpad17:29
tsimonq2Ah ok17:29
naccwe also have a blacklist and whitelist, so the phasing percentage is not a direct indicator yet17:29
naccbut our short-term goal is 100% of main17:30
tsimonq2But like, 1% from an alphabetical list? How is this sorted?17:30
tsimonq2Ah ok17:30
nacctsimonq2: no sorting necessary17:30
nacctsimonq2: md5sum(srcpkg name) is a numerical value17:30
nacctsimonq2: compare that to 1% of 2^12817:30
naccand statistically we get ~1% of all source packages, assuming a relatively even distribution (not entirely true, but is an approximation)17:30
naccactually, i think md5sum might be relatively uniform17:31
tsimonq2Huh ok17:31
nacc(2^128 being the maximum md5sum)17:31
tsimonq2nacc: Seems like an algorithm that has a name... what might that be? :)17:32
nacctsimonq2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates17:32
nacctsimonq2: update-manager section17:32
tsimonq2Interesting.17:36
tsimonq2OK, cool.17:36
wxlbashfulrobot: you think you're going to be able to get all your testing in before end ot the day or are you thinking a late release thursday (or a potential delay, whcih might be good for kubuntu)?19:26
wxloh jeez no lubuntu next images. i trust i need to get you to add them, infinity?19:30
infinitywxl: Oh, I assumed Next wasn't happening for milestones, since we'd discussed that it probably shouldn't happen for release.  I can add it for the Beta and spin 'em up.19:42
wxlinfinity: it looks like we had them for milestones only for artful, so i think we're on the same page there.19:43
infinitywxl: Building now.19:44
wxlinfinity: thank you, sir :)19:44
infinity(Well, in one minute when the rebuild job ticks over)19:44
infinityhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/bionic/lubuntu-next19:46
wxlinfinity: don't they usually show on the tracker as being in a building state?19:48
infinitywxl: It does on the daily milestone.   It won't show at all on the Beta milestone until one has been built (this one) :P19:49
wxlinfinity: weird behavior, but ok :)19:49
infinitywxl: Well, I could have done it in a different order by adding one of the older images to the beta milestone and then triggering the rebuild, which would give you the output you expected.19:50
infinitywxl: But I don't like adding an image to a milestone for the express purpose of obsoleting it seven seconds later.19:50
infinity(Both for reasons of confusion and efficiency)19:50
wxlinfinity: sounds like the behavior is no different, but it's less obvious with the dailies.19:51
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (trusty-proposed/main) [204-5ubuntu20.26 => 204-5ubuntu20.27] (core)19:52
infinitywxl: It perhaps helps if you realise there's no difference between "daily" and "milestone", except that when a milestone is active, any daily built that's listed in the manifest *also* gets posted to the milestone.19:53
infinitywxl: So, I added next to the manifest, triggered a daily rebuild, and when it posts, it'll show up on both.19:53
wxlinfinity: yeah, that's whta i was alluding to.19:53
wxlinfinity: i'll quit bothering you now :)19:54
bashfulrobotwxl: we are literally just having a discussion about this. There are some pros to delaying since our ISO was just built today due to a delay with a snap seed. I'm just confirming with our team lead.20:17
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Next Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180307) has been added20:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Next Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180307) has been added20:18
wxlbashfulrobot: alright. ping me when you get it figured out, please?20:32
infinitybashfulrobot: If there's a delay, I assume it would just be a day, right?20:40
infinitybashfulrobot: I'm fine with releasing on Friday instead of Thursday.  Don't want to keep the soft freeze in place much longer than that.20:40
bashfulrobotinfinity:  I think so. I wouldn't want to delay any later than that.20:59
bashfulrobotwxl: absolutely.20:59
bashfulrobotok, wxl, infinity21:39
bashfulrobottsimonq2:21:39
bashfulrobotAre we all in agreement to delay until Friday eve?21:40
tsimonq2ACK.21:42
bashfulrobotACK on our part.21:43
bashfulrobotJust had to respin our ISo due to a bug in our snap21:43
bashfulrobotQuick Q - is this the right place to request permissions to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker (to trigger a new build)? Right now fossfreedom is the only one who can do this on behalf of ubuntu Budgie.21:51
bashfulrobottsimonq2 / infinity ^^ You fine gents may know the answer. 😃21:54
tsimonq2bashfulrobot: There's an LP team you need to be added to.21:55
flexiondotorgbashfulrobot infinity Ubuntu MATE have expressed our intention to participate in Beta 1 bit we don't have isos.21:55
flexiondotorgCan anything be done to spin them please?21:56
bashfulrobotinfinity: had the traditional nusakan stuff been done for mate? Can we squeek that in?21:56
bashfulrobotflexiondotorg: FYI - we are likely deferring beta until Friday evening (FYI).21:57
jbichainfinity: today's ISO builds still identify as Alpha in their metadata21:57
flexiondotorgWe can certainly bo the QA by Friday. So if iso can be produced we've got the QA team ready.21:59
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux [s390x] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-12.13] (core, kernel)22:01
* bashfulrobot defers to infinity for nusakan setup.22:01
bashfulrobottsimonq2: Who admins that team?22:04
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] has been updated (20180307.1)22:06
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] has been updated (20180307.1)22:06
tsimonq2bashfulrobot: I think you can generally assume ~ubuntu-cdimage members that work for Canonical.22:07
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bashfulrobotslangasek: I noticed that you are a member of the cd-image team - are you guys the right people to request access to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker?22:10
bashfulrobotWell access in the capacity to generate rebuilds on the ISO22:11
bashfulrobotnot just login for review22:11
bashfulrobotslangasek: I know you are at the sprint - so this is not critical, nor a blocker.22:13
bashfulrobotslangasek: when you happen to read this - ideally we would like to make https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-budgie-release a member, however if there is a policy against nesting a group (maybe security concerns), could we add myself?22:16
bashfulrobotfossfreedom might be handy to pop an "aye" in here for approval to do so on behalf of Ubuntu Budgie.22:17
infinityjbicha: Yeah, not fussed about them saying Alpha, that's not worth invalidating all the testing.22:22
infinityflexiondotorg: I can add MATE.  On Tuesday, when I set it up, you hadn't responded.22:22
infinityflexiondotorg: In fact, you still haven't responded to the thread asking who was participating, so not sure where it was expressed.22:23
flexiondotorginfinity: Thanks for adding MATE. I had told tsimonq2 that we wanted to participate, sorry that wasn't the correct route.22:27
infinityflexiondotorg: He isn't the one doing the paperwork bits, so less helpful. ;)22:28
infinityflexiondotorg: Uncronned and added.22:32
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180307.1) has been added22:32
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180307.1) has been added22:32
infinitybashfulrobot: You should be able to trigger rebuilds now.  Use this power wisely (ie: sparingly).22:35
bashfulrobotThank you Infinity!!! Was that team granted access, or my user directly?22:40
infinitybashfulrobot: Your user.22:41
tsimonq2flexiondotorg: Ah, I thought you had communicated this back to the Release Team already. Apologies.22:42
flexiondotorginfinity tsimonq2 My screw up. I'll do better. Thanks for adding Ubuntu MATE22:47
infinitybashfulrobot: A few things.  Don't request rebuilds willy-nilly.  Invalidating all your testing because someone uploaded a spelling correction isn't nice.  Never request a rebuild for something in re-building status.  It'll wedge things.  And, uhm.  That's about it, I guess.22:47
* infinity is going to see if a nap fixes his headache.22:47
infinityIf the world explodes while I'm gone, I'll put it back together when I get back.22:47
bashfulrobotinfinity: thank you very much22:51
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-12.13] (core, kernel)22:54

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