[00:24] <abstradelic> hi !
[00:25] <daftykins> \o
[00:25] <abstradelic> greetings
[00:26] <abstradelic> greetings all
[00:26] <daftykins> unlikely to get much at this hour, given the timezone and all
[00:26] <daftykins> what brings you to a UK channel?
[00:29] <abstradelic> then... I have interest in Qt-based platform
[00:30] <abstradelic> what do you can tell me about?
[00:30] <daftykins> nothing
[00:30] <abstradelic> qt-based is really nice?
[00:31] <abstradelic> ubuntu is allready qt-based?
[00:31] <daftykins> you should probably take this topic to #ubuntu-discuss
[00:32] <abstradelic> then... you you allways talk for all?
[00:35] <daftykins> it's a friendly suggestion given you came into a channel for people, where it's half past midnight
[00:35] <daftykins> i suggested a channel intended for discussion that's 24/7 :)
[00:39] <ali1234> is #ubuntu-discuss an active channel?
[00:39] <ali1234> a lot of -discuss and -offtopic places tend to be dead
[00:40] <daftykins> i spoke in -discuss just a moment ago!
[00:40] <daftykins> it's a bit odd how much this channel attracts folk from other countries though, i feel like they've all been fed propaganda that all British are friendly
[00:41] <ali1234> but we are :)
[00:41] <ali1234> wasn't this channel like the default join for some irc client as well?
[00:41] <ali1234> or am i thinking of another...
[00:42] <daftykins> hmm
[00:43] <daftykins> you know what's weird? i saw an american using this ntalk.de client recently, it seems to be ancient
[00:44] <ali1234> i've never heard of it... but i never really used irc on windows
[00:45] <daftykins> hmm could've sworn when i checked it was cross platform, seems not
[00:45] <ali1234> it's FOSS
[00:45] <ali1234> so probably, but it seems mainly developed for windows (all screenshots on the homepage are XP)
[00:45] <ali1234> XP and 7 that is
[00:46] <daftykins> maybe even Vista
[00:46] <daftykins> but mm, seemed like a bad choice
[00:46] <ali1234> i used ICQ/MSN etc before IRC... that's why i still use pidgin today, even though IRC is the only service it still supports
[00:46] <daftykins> heh down to a one trick pony indeed
[00:47] <ali1234> even the lead dev acknowledges it's a problem :)
[00:47] <ali1234> he does coding streams on twitch :)
[00:48] <daftykins> mr.purple huh? xD
[00:48] <ali1234> which ironically, twitch supports IRC connections to their chat
[00:48] <ali1234> https://www.twitch.tv/rw_grim
[00:49] <daftykins> well it is just modded IRC afaiui
[00:49] <ali1234> yes. it doesnt support everything and makes pidgin throw error boxes because it can't eg get a list of users in a channel
[00:49] <ali1234> but it does work
[00:53] <daftykins> i use livestreamer.io myself still to watch the feeds, if i'm on a PC
[00:54] <daftykins> mostly it's the app on my Amazon FireTV - although it's horrifically buggy
[00:54] <daftykins> i've even reported it and they don't even reply
[00:56] <abstradelic> I use irc long time ago
[08:23] <diplo> Morning all
[08:27] <SuperMatt> morning
[09:06] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:29] <SuperMatt> Where does communitheme stand with Ubuntu 18.04. Do we know yet if it's going to be the default?
[10:01] <SuperMatt> The answer is: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-participation-an-ubuntu-default-theme-lead-by-the-community/1545/574
[10:03] <diplo> Anyone use the Skype snap ?
[10:07] <SuperMatt> I've been using it
[10:11] <diplo> Skype snap list shows 8.16.0.4 the app under help shows 4.3 ?
[10:11] <diplo> Also, can't get it ot login, do the auth part and just spins
[10:17] <abstradelic> Morning
[10:30] <SuperMatt> diplo: *shrug*
[10:31] <SuperMatt> logs in just fine for me
[10:31] <SuperMatt> or it did last time I logged in
[10:31] <SuperMatt> Lemm try now in my vm
[10:31] <SuperMatt> *lemme
[10:35] <diplo> ta fanx, no rush
[10:36] <SuperMatt> version showing as 8.16.0.4
[10:36] <diplo> under help ?
[10:36] <SuperMatt> are you sure you don't have skype installed any other way?
[10:36] <SuperMatt> yeah, under help
[10:36] <diplo> Nope, I was thinking that too
[10:36] <diplo> Removed the snap and reinstalled to be sure, app menu option disappeared on removal
[10:36] <SuperMatt> strange
[10:37] <diplo> Will do a find/locate as well now
[10:37] <SuperMatt> I couldn't even get in to the "about" page until I logged in
[10:37] <SuperMatt> type `which skype` in your terminal
[10:37] <diplo> yeah /snap/bin
[10:40] <SuperMatt> did you install with --classic?
[10:40] <diplo> Yep
[10:40] <diplo> Going to post in the forums, may be just me :)
[10:42] <diplo> Joys of working for a old company, having to create a package for CentOS 5 :/
[10:44] <SuperMatt> Surprised CentOS 5 isn't EOL yet
[10:45] <SuperMatt> oh, it was EOL last year
[10:45] <SuperMatt> gotta have words with your boss
[10:45] <SuperMatt> I would point blank refuse to make a package for CentOS 5
[10:45] <diplo> Customers running it, not us
[10:46] <diplo> But we run software on there we need to monitor more for
[10:46] <diplo> I've said we ought to tell customers tough
[10:46] <diplo> But this is the last one on 5, still have 5 on Cent4!
[10:46] <SuperMatt> jeez
[10:47] <SuperMatt> I don't know how companies manage to get themselves into such a mess
[10:47] <diplo> Yup
[10:47] <diplo> Did you know that GoDaddy still run Cent4 machines
[10:47] <diplo> And the reason why is most small companies won't spend money on IT
[10:48] <SuperMatt> oh I know that
[10:48] <SuperMatt> I used to work for Rackspace
[10:48] <SuperMatt> we had customers who refused to upgrade their RedHat boxes
[10:48] <diplo> It's a pain in my rear! Yes we do too
[10:48] <SuperMatt> And I mean Red Hat, not RHEL, actual Red Hat
[10:48] <diplo> I've told my bosses they need to write clauses into their contracts on renewal
[10:48] <SuperMatt> Before Enterprise Linux was a thing
[10:49] <diplo> We just got rid of our last RH7 box and 2 SCO 5? boxces
[10:49] <SuperMatt> A year after heartbleed, we still had customer that refused to let us restart services
[10:49] <diplo> Oh blimey
[10:49] <diplo> We have an issue on some hardware, where it has been set up using intel software raid
[10:50] <diplo> If I update past cent 6.5, it wipes /home
[10:51] <SuperMatt> I tried to explain - in the time it takes for a service to restart, the end user will simply refresh the page and it will be back up again. It's seconds, not hours to restart a service. Any money lost in that period is *nothing* compared to the amount of money that could be lost due to a breach caused by heartbleed
[10:52] <diplo> They don't seem to comprehend it do they.
[10:52] <diplo> I've rebooted 2 servers recently that have 5+ year uptime
[10:53] <SuperMatt> Good!
[10:54] <diplo> I'm just scared of rebooting these boxes, had so many issues with them, but done about 80 servers now for customers
[10:54] <diplo> But since going through this, found 3 sites with raid issues
[10:54] <diplo> Phone them up, yeah we've been hearing clicking noises...
[10:55] <diplo> We don't have to support these, I do it for our ease of life
[10:55] <SuperMatt> They've been hearing clicking noises and didn't think to contact anyone?
[10:58] <diplo> Yep
[10:58] <diplo> Welcome to my world
[10:58] <SuperMatt> never ceases to amaze
[11:00] <diplo> Or me
[11:14] <diplo> Had another one with a mirror'd drive, we've offered to fix it for free ( apart from price of disks ) and it has taken him 6 months with multiple prompting to fill a form out agreeing it
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[12:52] <diplo>  
[12:54] <SuperMatt>  
[13:01] <diplo> Focus on the wrong screen
[13:01] <diplo> Fun with firewall rules on a Draytek router :/
[20:43] <UncleMurda> UncleMurda
[20:47] <zmoylan-pi> well that was enlightening... :-)
[20:56] <daftykins> diplo: those things are so horrible :D