[00:00] sybariten: you can mount dirs over ssh with sshfs [00:00] sybariten: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS [00:00] akik: no no i mean just mount the drive on that machine [00:01] libertas: That do lend weight to the Bug report . Have you tried the fix ? [00:01] sybariten: you can put a line into /etc/fstab to mount it [00:01] it seems to be /dev/sda2 [00:02] yeah i dont mind doing it by hand, i just need a good line... i mean, i dont reboot the machine often [00:02] hey I'm having issues with editing a bootable iso [00:02] according to google the iso needs to be cp'd to another dir and then I can edit it, but cp is giving me IO errors [00:02] I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and whenever I mount it it says its a read-only filesystem [00:02] sybariten: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#Configuring_.2Fetc.2Ffstab [00:03] so I can't edit it because it's read-only and I can't copy because cp is throwing errors [00:03] permissions are fine [00:03] and I ran cp as su [00:04] gnulligan: I wonder... how full is this filesystem (df -h will show) [00:04] any help pls? [00:04] oh [00:04] ty, one sec [00:04] sybariten: use uid= and gid= options for mount to match your linux user id [00:05] /dev/loop0p1 and /dev/loop1p1 are 100% [00:05] hggdh: [00:05] gnulligan: well, there you go. You are out of space [00:05] wait [00:05] /dev/loop*? what are these filesystems? [00:06] iso [00:06] I mounted the iso [00:06] aren't ISOs read-only? [00:07] yeah [00:07] which is why I'm trying to cp -a iso /user/desktop [00:07] then I'll edit it and use mkisofs [00:07] which should have worked according to google [00:08] but cp is giving me io errors [00:09] When I do sudo cp -a /medi/user/my_iso.iso /home/user/Desktop/folder it says "cp: error reading 'media/blah': Input/output error [00:09] * hggdh goes walk the dogs [00:11] gnulligan: Please pastebin the output of "mount" to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com . [00:16] I have ubuntu setup in a virtual machine with a graphics card passed through. It only boots in nomodeset and doesn't use my graphics card. [00:16] How can I get it to work? [00:24] Did you install the drivers for your card [00:34] Just gonna ask again, but differently .... if i double click on a disk in ubuntu, on the desktop... a disk thats not mounted.... is there any way to "extract" the mount command that is being executed then ? [00:34] I got it [00:35] ty :) [00:36] sybariten: I'm not sure, but I would assume that the "defaults" flag is used in that case. Maybe not, if the drive is somehow 'special' though, I don't know. [00:37] also, if you have it mounted via click, try the 'mount' command and look for the drive. [00:37] yeah there is a bit of information in parenthesis after each drive entry... [00:40] wow theres quite a lot of attributes to this one specific drive apparently: /dev/sda2 on /media/jke/FA30D0D4DD7 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2) [00:41] That looks pretty standard for fuse mount [00:41] ok [00:41] allow_other is the only real option I see [00:46] sybariten: do you need help figuring out how to enter that into fstab, or is that part clear? [00:48] Hello all. I was just having an issue where I couldn't turn airplane mode off. The suggestions in the forums didn't help. Anyone have any ideas? I'm trying a restore now, but would cancel if anyone is up for helping [00:50] oi === fabio is now known as Guest79642 [00:53] Sudo rfkill list all. Shows hard blocked: yes [00:54] Sudo rfkill unblock all. No change [00:55] hard block I thought was like a key combo because the hardware has it disabled [00:56] When I go to networking and slide airplane mode to off, it doesn't stick. How can I adjust at hardware level? [00:56] Either hit your key combo to turn on wifi, or enable it in the bios if that doesn't work [00:56] Nothing to do with software [00:57] Thanks. Is key combo specific to my machine? Maybe I accidently hit it?? [00:58] F me [00:58] It is specific to your machine, I know only dells you have to hit the Fn + one of the f keys that has the wifi symbol [00:58] Yep F2. Feel really foolish. Thanks so much [00:58] We've all done it before =) [00:58] Appreciate this community very much. Love and light people [01:01] Intel integrated graphics connected to monitor with VGA cable, trying to set resolution with cvt + xrandr works but when I try setting to 1920x1080@60Hz I get a black screen. Screen has 1920x1080 working via DVI. === antonm_ is now known as antonm [01:04] Is the vga cable rated for that resolution? A lot of them are low quality and only do certain resolutions like svga [01:05] Hmm thanks for the tip. I have no idea, I'll check on my other machine later =] === wetterfu1hs is now known as wetterfuchs_ [01:07] I got burned one year buying a longer generic vga. It takes all 15 pins to do 1080 or above. 4-6 of them were shorted out when tested with multimeter === stevendale_ is now known as stevendale === stevendale is now known as stevendal [01:13] tom__, the maximum resolution for VGA varies and is dependent on both the monitor and graphics card being able to create and receive the signal at the needed frequency and bandwidth. DVI is a fully digital signal while VGA is analog, DVI can carry more data than VGA which is why VGA does not always work at higher resolutions [01:14] low quality cables can also affect the signal, if possible, it would be recommended to use DVI [01:15] I like those little vga>dvi adapters. Of course then you have to figure out if the card can do dvi-i or if it is pure dvi-d [01:16] Adapters are good for quick fix, but longer term it's better to have less connections. Each device on the cable reduces quality and affects signal transmission [01:17] If the laptop makers would start putting in the correct ports sure we wouldn't need to [01:18] true === stevendal is now known as stevendale === nchambers is now known as uplime [02:10] Hi, I'm using the ubuntu docker via " docker run -it ubuntu bash " and doing a "apt-get install git" inside [02:10] why do I get E: Unable to locate package git [02:11] amosbird, what version of ubuntu are you on [02:12] apt update first? [02:12] hi i have a newly set up Ubuntu Server 16.04.4 with SSH Server and default utilities installed on it. I'm trying to ssh tunnel into a VPS of mine. I have exchanged keys with the VPS but whenever I try to execute the ssh tunnel i keep getting asked for the rsa key password. however, when i execute the ssh tunnel by using sudo i'm not prompted for the rsa password. what could be wrong with my setup? [02:15] bazhang: 16.04 lts [02:15] OerHeks: ah, thanks [02:16] hmm, still E: Unable to locate package cmake3 [02:16] git is ok now [02:16] amosbird, not yet at the 16.04.4 ? [02:16] bazhang: I'm not sure. how can I print that ? [02:16] it's tagged as 16.04 === r0Oter is now known as r00ter === chat is now known as Guest64523 [02:18] is there a way of controlling the fan speed on a macbook a1181? o.o [02:18] not sure if the kernel natively supports the fan hardware [02:18] !fan | WorldGenesis[v] [02:18] WorldGenesis[v]: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. [02:18] !version | amosbird [02:18] amosbird: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [02:19] root@76875c59c19a:/# lsb_release -a [02:19] No LSB modules are available. [02:19] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [02:19] Ool: hello. I'm, back after re-installing Ubuntu, running ubuntu-drivers and restarting the system (just to be sure). The end result was the same: I get up to the login screen just fine, then the desktop crashes before visualizing anything and I'm back to the login. [02:19] Description: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS [02:19] Release: 16.04 [02:19] Codename: xenial === Leion1 is now known as Leion [02:23] Hi everyone, I'm stuck at a purple screen with a mouse cursor in the middle. I googled it but doing nomodeset at grub didn't have any effect. What can I do to fix this? [02:24] KrisWood, is this at installation or what stage [02:24] cfhowlett I've been running this machine continuously for a few months, this is the first reboot in ages [02:25] KrisWood, ah. server? [02:25] I'd turned it off to add an extra hard drive I had laying around. [02:25] cfhowlett I don't remember if I did server or desktop this time, honestly [02:25] cfhowlett either I did desktop or I installed a desktop on it [02:26] KrisWood, sounds like the additional hardware has confused things. [02:27] cfhowlett, that's what I thought at first so I turned it off and removed the drive then turned it on again. Now it's still stuck at the purple screen [02:27] KrisWood, I'd guess grub is whacked. reinstall? [02:27] !grub [02:27] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [02:29] I can't get to a terminal, so that link doesn't really work for me, but I'll try reading through grub stuff, maybe I can find a setting to change somewhere... [02:29] is there a way to do debconf-get-selections without installing the tested package? [02:31] FreakingOut1987, apt download packagename [02:33] thanks cfhowlett [02:34] happy2help! === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:43] hi [02:43] how can I make apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test run without user interaction [02:43] it currently needs me to press enter [03:02] amosbird: Did you try the standard -y ? [03:02] Should work for most all apt commands [03:04] ah, thanks [03:09] Hi, I'm back. Still trying to diagnose this server hang issue, if anyone has any ideas. Today I came home and this was on the console, whole system hung: https://i.imgur.com/wzl5HuI.jpg [03:09] consider asking #ubuntu-server stiltzkin [03:09] yeah I suppose I should [03:10] but that uuid missing = no such partition. did you change hardware or something? [03:10] also maybe check hdd hw === Seven_Si2_Two is now known as Seven_Six_Two [03:10] haven't changed drives [03:10] it also boots up fine [03:11] but it will completely lock up at random intervals, usually every 24 hours [03:11] stiltzkin, sounds like failing HW to me. [03:12] I don't think so. [03:12] The hardware is relatively new [03:12] did you look at it e.g. like "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX" (pkg smartmontools)? [03:13] yep drives are healthy [03:14] there's an MCE displayed during boot [03:14] also might be interesting what the kernel log says. maybe you would need to remotely log it via network so you get last messages before freeze [03:14] [Firmware Bug]: Ignoring request to disable invalid MCA bank [03:14] but I haven't been able to determine if this is normal or not [03:14] see: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c#L1867 [03:15] kernel log is clean, other than this MCE. There's no last messages before the system hangs indicating anything unusual. After the system reaches a hung state it's not reachable on the network [03:16] it's done this dozens of times, started popping up about a month ago or so and has happened nearly every day [03:16] sometimes it will go 2 days, sometimes it will go 8 hours [03:18] kind of at my wit's end with it, considering reinstalling. would have done it already if reinstalling all the software and config wasn't such a huge pita [03:18] maybe a long standing ssh connection with "dmesg -w" running would show something? [03:18] would that show anything that wouldn't already get logged to disk though? [03:18] I imagine the session would just end [03:18] if it cant log to disk? [03:18] i mean if it cant write anymore, how would it end up in that log then? [03:19] I suppose it's possible. It's not panicing though [03:19] at least, not that I can see [03:20] if it cant write to hdd (gave up waiting for root device), i guess you wont see last kernel messages by examining disk files [03:20] yeah [03:21] I don't understand why it would suddenly fail to write to the host drive though [03:21] drive reports healthy, it's an SSD [03:21] You turst SMART ? [03:21] *trust [03:21] what else is there to trust haha [03:21] Something that isn't consistently wrong [03:22] Like manafacturer provided tools [03:22] pretty sure WD's manufacturer provided tools just run SMART [03:25] Pretty sure it does a lot more than that. Just sucks that it only runs on DOS|Win [03:29] well I could clone the disk to a spare SSD to rule it out [03:29] but I don't think it will make any difference [03:30] I suspect this is a recent kernel issue or a hardware issue [03:30] stiltzkin, easy test: reboot, choose an old kernel [03:31] I've tried some older kernels and got the same results. However I might not have old enough kernels from before this started happening [03:31] I also tried switching to HWE kernel to see if it would help - it has not [03:32] Easy enough to install a pretty old one you knew worked good before, if you can remember the version|timeframe [03:34] I doubt I can make it match whatever it was previously [03:35] I was apparently running "mainline build" kernel, a term I've not heard before. It came up last time I asked this question in here [03:35] Which is unsupported I think [03:35] !mainline [03:35] The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [03:35] But I'm not sure why I was running it - I don't remember installing a custom kernel [03:41] probably at this point the best course of action is to replace the host drive (since I have one lying around anyway) and just do a full reinstall, as painful as it will be [03:42] but I was hoping to rule out hardware problems ahead of doing that and I haven't had much luck there === anyone is now known as meltdown_spectre [03:44] Can't really rule out hardware problems without reinstalling either [03:45] If you do them both at the same go you'll never know which one it was O.o [03:51] stiltzkin, try it with an updated iso === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [03:55] @kenrin, true but I care less about the root cause analysis and more about my uptime :) [03:55] the good folks in #ubuntu-server suggested setting up syslogd with UDP to a separate server so I'm going to give that a go first [03:55] in case the problem really is preventing the errors that take the system out from ever getting logged to disk === MoPac is now known as Guest12705 [03:58] hi [03:59] im having trouble accessing my firmware. i have an intel nuc === Israphel is now known as Guest85446 === Israphel_ is now known as Israphel [04:29]

really bad job from ubuntu folks .. why laptops aren't able to suspend when the battery juice is finished? we talked about this issue for years now [04:29]

I go online and everyone is complaining about it yet no from ubuntu team is willing to fix this inconvience [04:31]

time to give FreeBSD another shot [04:34]

all my work is gone because of this stupidity === gms is now known as Guest90606 [04:39] how to make script python? [04:40] what [04:42] whoami, open an editor, create your script (first line is "#!/usr/bin/python" or your shebang), save it, then `chmod +x` (make executable) & test it out... (note: i don't know python so possibility of typos/bobo's) [04:48] hi === ASDL is now known as SPeedY [05:28] hi, so i'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 without going through external media by adding a menuentry for the ubuntu ISO in grub, and i've got the menuentry and it seems to work; seems to boot into a fully functioning ubuntu 16.04 desktop environment with a desktop icon to install ubuntu, but then the installer informs me that various different things are mounted, and asks me if i want to unmount them so that it can [05:28] continue, so i unmount them, and it seems like it continues just fine through the installer prompts, but then when it actually starts installing it seems to hang on the "Detecting file systems..." step [05:33] i haven't ever seen prompts about mounted file-systems in an ubuntu install before; i'm guessing that's because i've only ever done installs via DVD/USB; i've got the iso in a file on sda1, and sda is the drive i've trying to install ubuntu on, i figured that this might cause problems, if the installer is wanting to overwrite the drive that it's being read from in the first place [05:33] but idk how computers work so i figured i'd give it a shot lol [05:41] stoopkid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot can this help [05:45] ah, well, the "Installing Ubuntu from a Menuentry Boot" is at least indicating that the various prompts i was getting are normal. i guess i need to try unmounting this /isodevice before i try running the install, maybe that'll fix it [05:47] depends a lot on where the iso is. I wouldn't bother - just burn to usb drive (hard drives are way faster). Sometimes the drives are not listed in the correct order either - make sure you use uuid [05:48] you mean just put the iso on a separate drive and load it from there and then use that to install onto the original drive? [05:49] use dd or whatever and write the iso to the drive [05:50] sudo dd if=isoname.iso of=devicename bs=4M [05:50] then boot from that [05:50] works for most nixs [05:51] make sure you get the device name right! [05:52] should i use oflag=sync? [05:54] I don't usually - not sure what that is even. I also add status=progress to the end to see [05:54] stoopkid: I tend to just issue "sync" after it's done, wait until that completes and then do another sync and then unplug it [05:54] good thinking! [05:56] so basically some of the data that's supposed to be written by dd might still just be stored in buffers in ram and sync flushes those buffers to make sure it's all written to drive? or am i confused about the purpose of it [05:56] hello , Someone is using my nick, and i am authenticated to use that nick, what was the command for ghosting?, can someone help [05:56] stoopkid: exactly [05:57] "wait until that completes"; seems like it completed instantly, is that what i should be expecting? not sure how much data normally gets stored in these buffers [05:57] Blue_Crystal: /msg nickserv GHOST nick pass [05:58] stoopkid: with a slow usb stick, sync might take 10+ seconds to be done. There can be quite a lot of write caching. [05:58] stoopkid: if there is nothing to be written, sync returns immediately. [05:59] but it's "done" when it returns the command prompt to me, like i shouldn't ever expect it to be just be returning the command prompt while it syncs in the background? [05:59] i guess i can check ps for that [05:59] it's done. [06:00] stoopkid: it returns when whatever was in the write buffer at the time of issue, is written to disk. [06:00] stoopkid: if something kept writing into the write cache, then that might still not be committed to disk [06:00] gotcha [06:01] stoopkid: so basically if you do "dd ; sync ; sync" and this completes, you can be pretty sure that whatever was written by dd is now on disk [06:01] enuf, thanks, it says Green_Crystal has been ghosted and then, ~Green_Cry@unaffiliated/green-crystal/x-1110118 has just authenticated as you (Green_Crystal) what does this mean? === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [06:03] huh, well... i go to `shutdown now` so that i can switch out the drives and run the install, and it seems to need to stop the daemon 'rsync' [06:03] Blue_Crystal: try /nick Green_Crystal [06:05] enuf, ah, i understand, thanks for the help ^_^ [06:05] "killing all remaining processes... [fail]; restoring resolver state... [OK]; will now switch to single-user mode" [06:09] shutdown -h worked [06:09] weird. haven't gotten that issue before [06:18] hi [06:21] I'm trying to add a Launchpad PPA on 17.10 using add-apt-repository, but because our corporate proxy blocks whatever port HKP uses (11371?) it fails with "Error: retrieving gpg key timed out." [06:21] So does "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com " [06:22] is there some other way to eg. force add-apt-repo to use TLS instead of plain HKP for key downloads? [06:24] detly: we dont support external ppa's here [06:24] detly: try to contact the maintainer [06:24] !ppa | detly [06:24] detly: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [06:24] do you support the software in the official archives? [06:24] detly: officially, we support all packages from the official repos [06:25] great! add-apt-repository and apt-key are both in there ;) [06:25] but if they do not support forcing TLS, I will look elsewhere for a solution [06:26] detly: wich package is it, you are looking for? [06:27] isn't it possible to download the key and then install from that? [06:28] knotahacker: from where? [06:28] lotuspsychje: pypy > 5.8 [06:28] oh, the keyserver has a web interface? [06:29] i did it a while back, i think i just used wget [06:30] not a web interface, it's just a file [06:30] everythings a file in linux... [06:30] wget won't work if the port is blocked though [06:33] !info pypy | detly [06:33] detly: pypy (source: pypy): fast alternative implementation of Python - PyPy interpreter. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.8.0+dfsg-2 (artful), package size 7375 kB, installed size 45023 kB [06:36] https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/ [06:37] search for the key you want, save as a file [06:41] detly: pypy key https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x251104D968854915 [06:42] detly: make your life easy and install pypy from official repos? [06:42] knotahacker: ooooh, I need "0x" at the start [06:42] lotuspsychje: 5.8 < 5.10 [06:42] !latest | detly [06:42] detly: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [06:42] knotahacker: not at all obvious, but that works, cheers [06:42] yep [06:43] easy to get in trouble mixing and matching though [06:43] updates can be horrible!! [06:44] knotahacker: pypy is relatively self-contained, and it's better than waiting 12 months to do development [06:44] suprised there isn't a snap package or docker or something? [06:44] I mean, the other alternative is to compile and install from source, which is far far harder to reverse than installing from a PPA [06:45] detly: ubuntu 18.04 has pypy 5.10 [06:45] knotahacker: could be, and if there were many more deps I'd look into that [06:45] true - i do it too sometimes, but i get into messes too! [06:45] lotuspsychje: good to know, cheers :) [06:46] detly: ans then there are also !backports and snaps [06:47] last time I tried installing via snap it was catastrophic, but that was a few months ago so maybe it's better now [06:48] I think I have backports enabled though [06:50] detly: just use the reccomended version 5.8? [06:52] lotuspsychje: unfortunately I'm hitting a crash in the JIT compiler in 5.8, and I need to see if it's still present in 5.10 (and if it's not, use 5.10) [06:53] detly: file a !bug against 5.8? [06:53] lotuspsychje: if it's fixed by upstream in 5.10, why would I file a bug? === LocaMocha is now known as Sauvin [06:55] I guess if it has security implications and a backport or patch is warranted? but then, knowing that it's fixed or not in 5.10 would still be necessary information [06:57] knotahacker: hah, even manually importing the key via "sudo apt-key add" won't satisfy add-apt-repository [06:57] at least in that case I can put the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [06:59] detly: also if you need more stable, choose an LTS version [06:59] !info pypy xenial [06:59] pypy (source: pypy): fast alternative implementation of Python - PyPy interpreter. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.1.2+dfsg-1~16.04 (xenial), package size 6748 kB, installed size 37410 kB [07:05] detly: i know it's not the right way... [07:05] sometimes i cheat a little.. [07:06] if you're admin, you can do what you want right? :) [07:09] knotahacker: ah, if only :/ [07:09] daily backups help with peace of mind though [07:10] sometimes I wish i had my own keylogger just so i could undo my screwups. [07:10] ever seen a program/script to do that? [07:11] tee every command to a text file.. [07:11] so i dd'd this ubuntu iso to my second hard-drive, and it seems to boot into the install just fine. is there any way to add a menuentry for grub that would boot into that install? here's what i've tried https://pastebin.com/HRQB6yrc but i'm not sure why this doesn't work [07:13] not sure why you'de want to? [07:13] stoopkid: what's on the first hard drive? [07:13] ubuntu 14.04 [07:14] so you're going to do a new install to that? [07:14] knotahacker: i'm just curious about if i can use grub to select from different drives to boot from [07:15] stoopkid: possibly an obvious thing to do but have you tried just running update-grub2 (is it grub2 on 14.04?) from your 14.04 install? [07:15] sure. leave the drive in when you install and the installer will find it [07:15] detly: yea tried that [07:16] this is 2 drives in 1 pc, right? [07:16] knotahacker: sure the issue i'm running into is just getting into the installer on the second drive without physically swapping the drives or changing the boot priority in BIOS (which i don't seem to be able to do for some reason) [07:16] yea [07:17] so how did you get to the installer? [07:17] physically swapping the drives [07:17] stoopkid: does (hd1,0) actually contain the '/boot' dir? you can check from the grub console with "ls (hd1,0)/boot" [07:19] one sec [07:20] "press `c' for a command-line" ? [07:20] yep [07:20] in fact, you could just try "ls" at that command line [07:20] you might find you need eg. (hd1,gptX) rather than (hd1,X) [07:20] i don't have a command-line though, and `c' doesn't seem to give me one, hrm [07:21] well that's a bit off [07:21] *odd [07:21] did 14.04 have grub but not grub2? [07:22] does grub use 'update-grub' and grub2 use 'update-grub2' ? [07:22] I've got 14.04 on one of my machines and it definitely has grub2, but it might vary depending on which installer (server vs desktop)? [07:22] if you have grub2 installed, update-grub should just point to update-grub2 [07:22] oh wait i'm looking right at it [07:22] oops, other way around [07:23] GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.7 [07:23] if 'c' doesn't get you a console... I don't know what's happening there [07:23] I presume it responds to other keypresses, since you can boot past it? [07:24] right, at least up/down/enter [07:24] don't understand why you cant change boot priority in bios? [07:24] knotahacker: me neither [07:24] quick bash question: ive got a variable with a multiline text. And an xml file that has a single value in it that needs to be replaced with that variable. sed doesnt like that variable, as it contains "special chars"==newline. does anyone have an idea how to quickly get this sorted? [07:25] stoopkid: are both listed as drives in bios? how old is this pc? [07:26] ~2006; and yea both are listed, and nothing seems to be locked or disabled [07:26] gabe: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1251999/how-can-i-replace-a-newline-n-using-sed [07:27] stoopkid: but there is no option to change priority? [07:28] there is an option to change priority, and all the drives including usb show up there, and it says on the screen to use + and - to move the items up and down in the list, but, whatever keys i press the screen just flickers and doesn't do anything [07:29] and nowhere else in bios does there appear to be any setting that could be disabling the ability to change the boot priority [07:29] Gabe: at worst, echo "$(everything before the variable)$(variable)$(everything after the variable)" > newfile [07:30] Hi there. Is 14.04 not supported anymore? 'sudo apt upgrade' is throwing me a bunch of 404. [07:30] stoopkid: don't know any other way i guess? if you leave your install drive in the boot slot, you can still install to the second [07:31] stoopkid: you'll just have to fix your grub menu after to boot to your second drive [07:31] hrm [07:32] stoopkid: by default, i mean. otherwise it will always boot to your install/live disk. which would be great for surfing bad places... [07:33] well, if i can do that, shouldn't i be able to fix the grub menu to have an option to boot into the install on the second drive? [07:33] right, it will just take the right series of commands. [07:33] everything is possible. [07:34] except for changing my bios boot priority or opening up the grub console, apparently XD [07:34] SegFault1: did you add external ppa's? [07:35] lotuspsychje, yes I do have some external ppa from launchpad [07:35] SegFault1: try to remove them and sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade [07:35] !ppapurge | SegFault1 [07:35] SegFault1: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [07:35] stoopkid: i would install from sda to sdb, grub-install to sdb, swap drives again and boot. [07:36] i have to remove all the ppa? [07:36] stoopkid: you can choose which drive you install grub to. [07:36] I have some important ppa since ubuntu's default repo have old versions [07:37] !latest | SegFault1 [07:37] SegFault1: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [07:38] stoopkid: after new install boots you can update-grub and it will find your install drive also [07:39] knotahacker: thx. found that one too, but I'd like to have the newlines in the xml file :) [07:40] hrm, is there any way to add a menu item that would take me into the console, if the grub won't let me get there just by pressing 'c'? [07:40] gabe: i'm certainly no expert, i get all my info from google. just trying to help. make copies of everything before you experiment!! [07:41] :) [07:41] Anyone install ubuntu on a 7700HQ ROG asus laptop? I have been having some cpu related errors with kubuntu 17.10.1 [07:41] stoopkid: no idea [07:41] I updated the firmware, gonna try again when the download finishes incase my install usb is corrupt [07:41] instead of purging them, if I comment it in my sources.list and run upgrade will that be okay. [07:42] 7700k with 17.10, anyone got it working? [07:43] SegFault1: what about all the wrong libraries? that can't work. reinstall the the ppas after only if you must. [07:54] ... [07:56] da nigga is eppen [07:56] niggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [07:56] alright then [07:57] so i managed to solve the grub console problem [07:57] by commenting the line "GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0" in /etc/default/grub , in attempt to get grub menu to show by default without holding shift key [07:58] (which also works) [07:58] no idea what that has to do with whether or not i can press `c' to get into the console, but... [08:01] alright, and found part of my problem, /dev/sdb is on (hd2) not (hd1) [08:02] hrm seems to be a bug in grub; i exit from the console back out to the menu and it prints the menu again without erasing the original menu [08:07] stoopkid: grub numbers things weird - the first counts from 1, the partition counts from 0 [08:09] stoopkid: i have hard drives in my laptop and i can get a grub menu off either one. if i royally screw up, i use my bios boot menu to get to my backup mini OS [08:10] stoopkid: 2 drives i ment [08:14] hrm, seems like it's the opposite; drive counts from 0 and partition counts from 1, at least on my system this must necessarily be the case [08:15] (hd0,1) is my /dev/sda1 [08:15] oh that must be it. haven't played with that in a while sorry [08:16] np i mean this would be a hell of a lot of stuff to memorize XD [08:16] and yet some do.. [08:17] like learning regular expressions for sed and awk. [08:17] i hope i never have to work at this low level that often / intensively XD [08:18] once you get tools you often find a need for them [08:28] alright getting closer; so first i was incorrect, the install isn't in (hd2,1)/, it's in (hd1)/ [08:29] (hd2,1) was the usb stick that i had the iso on from when i was trying to usb boot XD [08:32] muahaha, success! booting into install on second hd from grub menuentry [08:34] or... hopefully success; looks like it started, and i've got a mouse pointer... on a black screen, not sure if it's hanging or if i'm waiting for something to load [08:36] hello, anyone here successfully using open-eid software ? [08:36] i guess it's hanging... damn, so close [08:50] I use byobu on an external system. All I want is to be able to copy text from the byubu terminal window to my desktop. How can I do this, its driving me crazy [08:56] huh, weird, i'm getting the same behavior now with my original menuentry that successfully booted into the ISO on /dev/sda (aka (hd0,1)) [08:56] where before i was getting the ubuntu installer desktop env, now i'm just seeing the same black screen with a mouse [08:58] is the behavior at least consistent? that's what I like about me computer [08:58] nope [08:59] or at least, idk what changes i might've made to cause this to start happening [09:01]