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nauticalnexusTrying to build a zsh 5.4.2 package on Ubuntu 17.10, keep getting this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ng385dFPT3/ not sure where to go from here00:36
naccnauticalnexus: perhaps the zsh you are building needs a newer debhelper than is in artful01:49
naccnauticalnexus: it looks like you are trying to backport the one form bionic to artful, but the bionic one is built with debhelper 1101:49
nauticalnexusI was trying to build it from source :P01:49
nauticalnexuswith bzr dh-make01:50
naccnauticalnexus: what source?01:50
nauticalnexustarball, hold on01:50
naccnauticalnexus: dh-make is presumably invoking debhelper01:50
nauticalnexushttp://zsh.sourceforge.net/Arc/source.html tar xz from here01:50
naccnauticalnexus: if you're building from a tarball, why are you using `bzr` ?01:50
nauticalnexusThat's what the wiki says to do >.>01:51
naccnauticalnexus: what wiki?01:51
nauticalnexushttp://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html#starting-a-package01:51
nauticalnexusI have no idea what I'm doing if you can't tell.01:54
nauticalnexusBut I want to learn..01:54
naccnauticalnexus: yeah you probably dont' want to follow that guide at all02:01
naccand you want #ubuntu-packaging02:01
naccnauticalnexus: i need to step away, but i can try and help tmrw02:02
nauticalnexusAh, thanks, I'll go there02:02
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aruncHi, I found the version of OpenCV that will be shipped with Bionic will be a 3 year old version. Is it possible to update it to 3.4.x08:18
aruncHere is the bug to track https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/+bug/175392808:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1753928 in opencv (Ubuntu) "OpenCV version in Bionic" [Undecided,New]08:18
sarnoldarunc: there's a small chance; even though it's after feature freeze, opencv is in universe ..08:19
FauxThe link in the bug report says 3.2 is being shipped, which makes more sense as that's what's in Debian since Oct.08:20
sarnoldah so it is. seems very unlikely then.08:21
aruncsarnold: sorry, I'm not quite sure what universe means here.08:22
aruncFaux: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/opencv shows 3.1 and 3.2, not sure which one will be shipped though :-)08:23
Fauxhttps://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opencv is more non-developer friendly.08:23
sarnoldarunc: packages in universe are community supported; packages in main are canonical-supported. sometimes the rules around packages in univrese are relaxed occasionally when it makes some sense.08:23
aruncthanks08:23
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rbasaknacc: slashd just found that the ubiquity usd-import-team repo is missing an ubuntu/devel branch. I can't think of how this might be expected?08:24
sarnoldarunc: but there'd have to be a pretty compelling story to try to update a package in universe to something newer than debian is shipping08:24
aruncsarnold: I see, there are quite a bit of performance and stability improvements since last year.. FYI https://github.com/opencv/opencv/wiki/ChangeLog08:27
arunc3.2 was released 1.5 years ago08:28
sarnoldarunc: yeah, I can imagine it has probably seen a lot of use and refinement :) but I can't speak for why the debian maintainers for opencv are on the schedule they are, or what costs and benefits they weighed when deciding what to upload, when08:30
FauxThe "dsfg" in the version number implies that the package is complicated.08:31
StevenKNot so much complicated as the source has had some things removed08:32
sarnoldthat qualifies for "complicated" in my book :) hehe08:32
sarnold"08:33
sarnoldHigh-level API has been modified and is even more convenient now.08:33
sarnoldif they removed or broke existing API that might be a huge roadblock to newer versions08:34
aruncI'm not familiar with Debian either.. but all I can think of is, Ubuntu 18.04 is going to be a LTS and if it doesn't ship the latest opencv, we will miss out huge benefits by default08:37
aruncthanks for your help.08:38
StevenK3.3 is in experimental, so I guess it's not quite ready yet ...08:39
infinityarunc: I've always found "if X is an LTS, it must have the shiniest software" a strange argument, since the point of a stable LTS is to have software that doesn't change (modulo bug fixes and security advisories) for 5+ years.08:40
infinityarunc: I agree that it's nice to start those five years from a pretty shiny base, but that base gets out of date very quickly, compared to the total life of the release.08:40
aruncinfinity: I can understand. In opencv's case with improvements in DNN, performance improvements, bug fixes and so on, it is sad not to see that come by default08:45
rbasaktjaalton: FYI, I'm looking at bug 1753839. Do you have any opinion (as you last merged)?13:51
ubottubug 1753839 in memcached (Ubuntu) "memcached deadlock fixed in 1.5.5" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175383913:51
rbasakI'm considering bumping to 1.5.6. Assessing that bump for feature changes/FFe requirement.13:52
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tjaaltonrbasak: ah, yes 1.5.6 sounds good to me14:52
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coreycbbdmurray: hi, would you mind rejecting my python-cryptography uploads to xenial and artful?15:28
coreycbbdmurray: ty15:38
bdmurrayno problem15:42
dxhey, i found that a bug in the pidgin package is caused by an ubuntu patch. how can i get someone to remove it? as far as i can see the maintainer is nobody in particular16:02
dxbug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/124566616:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1245666 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "Pidgin is creating zombies" [Medium,Confirmed]16:02
bdmurraycoreycb: It looks like there is a test case in bug 1722553 but it isn't explicity called out and other SRU information is missing.16:03
ubottubug 1722553 in python-pyperclip (Ubuntu Artful) "openstack command raises exception referencing gi.repository and gnome bug 709183" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172255316:03
coreycbbdmurray: sorry about that, it's updated now16:09
sarnoldLocutusOfBorg: hey :) any chance you can take a look at /lastlog dx ? :) thanks16:14
jbichapitti: I would like to drop python-volume-key from Debian (like we did with python-blockdev)17:50
pittijbicha: ah, python 2 cleanup? sure, I suppose/hope it didn't grow any dependencies by now17:51
jbichaI don't see any :)17:52
pittijbicha: ok,  I'll look into that now18:46
pittioh, you did already, thanks18:47
jbichapitti: yeah, it was a cleanup task for LP: #1754422 (which might not happen until 18.10 given the backlog)18:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1754422 in volume-key (Ubuntu) "[MIR] volume-key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175442218:50
LocutusOfBorgsabdfl, ack thanks19:00
LocutusOfBorgs/sabdfl / sarnold19:00
LocutusOfBorg:)19:00
LocutusOfBorgdone!19:00
LocutusOfBorgdx, thanks to you too19:00
dxoh, neat, thanks19:02
dxLocutusOfBorg: mind if i ask another thing? the xchat package has too many patches, could you remove the package itself? :P19:03
tsimonq2Oh boy. :P19:04
pittixchat? I thought that was removed ages ago, and replaced with hexchat19:08
pittioh really, it came back in artful19:09
dxyeah, LocutusOfBorg reintroduced it, and is now the new upstream19:11
naccLP: #175316919:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1753169 in xchat (Ubuntu) "Please don't include xchat (abandoned upstream) in 18.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175316919:48
naccalready filed by you dx :)19:48
naccdx: however, the debian discussion seems more involved19:52
dxyeah, i figured i'd just wait for them to decide there19:53
naccdx: yeah, seems reasonable19:53
dxof course taking a shortcut and just politely asking LocutusOfBorg to remove it was worth a shot19:56
dxit worked to remove a buggy patch from the pidgin package!19:57
dxtotally the same thing19:57

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