[00:36] Trying to build a zsh 5.4.2 package on Ubuntu 17.10, keep getting this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ng385dFPT3/ not sure where to go from here [01:49] nauticalnexus: perhaps the zsh you are building needs a newer debhelper than is in artful [01:49] nauticalnexus: it looks like you are trying to backport the one form bionic to artful, but the bionic one is built with debhelper 11 [01:49] I was trying to build it from source :P [01:50] with bzr dh-make [01:50] nauticalnexus: what source? [01:50] tarball, hold on [01:50] nauticalnexus: dh-make is presumably invoking debhelper [01:50] http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Arc/source.html tar xz from here [01:50] nauticalnexus: if you're building from a tarball, why are you using `bzr` ? [01:51] That's what the wiki says to do >.> [01:51] nauticalnexus: what wiki? [01:51] http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html#starting-a-package [01:54] I have no idea what I'm doing if you can't tell. [01:54] But I want to learn.. [02:01] nauticalnexus: yeah you probably dont' want to follow that guide at all [02:01] and you want #ubuntu-packaging [02:02] nauticalnexus: i need to step away, but i can try and help tmrw [02:02] Ah, thanks, I'll go there === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [08:18] Hi, I found the version of OpenCV that will be shipped with Bionic will be a 3 year old version. Is it possible to update it to 3.4.x [08:18] Here is the bug to track https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/+bug/1753928 [08:18] Launchpad bug 1753928 in opencv (Ubuntu) "OpenCV version in Bionic" [Undecided,New] [08:19] arunc: there's a small chance; even though it's after feature freeze, opencv is in universe .. [08:20] The link in the bug report says 3.2 is being shipped, which makes more sense as that's what's in Debian since Oct. [08:21] ah so it is. seems very unlikely then. [08:22] sarnold: sorry, I'm not quite sure what universe means here. [08:23] Faux: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/opencv shows 3.1 and 3.2, not sure which one will be shipped though :-) [08:23] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opencv is more non-developer friendly. [08:23] arunc: packages in universe are community supported; packages in main are canonical-supported. sometimes the rules around packages in univrese are relaxed occasionally when it makes some sense. [08:23] thanks === G_ is now known as G [08:24] nacc: slashd just found that the ubiquity usd-import-team repo is missing an ubuntu/devel branch. I can't think of how this might be expected? [08:24] arunc: but there'd have to be a pretty compelling story to try to update a package in universe to something newer than debian is shipping [08:27] sarnold: I see, there are quite a bit of performance and stability improvements since last year.. FYI https://github.com/opencv/opencv/wiki/ChangeLog [08:28] 3.2 was released 1.5 years ago [08:30] arunc: yeah, I can imagine it has probably seen a lot of use and refinement :) but I can't speak for why the debian maintainers for opencv are on the schedule they are, or what costs and benefits they weighed when deciding what to upload, when [08:31] The "dsfg" in the version number implies that the package is complicated. [08:32] Not so much complicated as the source has had some things removed [08:32] that qualifies for "complicated" in my book :) hehe [08:33] " [08:33] High-level API has been modified and is even more convenient now. [08:34] if they removed or broke existing API that might be a huge roadblock to newer versions [08:37] I'm not familiar with Debian either.. but all I can think of is, Ubuntu 18.04 is going to be a LTS and if it doesn't ship the latest opencv, we will miss out huge benefits by default [08:38] thanks for your help. [08:39] 3.3 is in experimental, so I guess it's not quite ready yet ... [08:40] arunc: I've always found "if X is an LTS, it must have the shiniest software" a strange argument, since the point of a stable LTS is to have software that doesn't change (modulo bug fixes and security advisories) for 5+ years. [08:40] arunc: I agree that it's nice to start those five years from a pretty shiny base, but that base gets out of date very quickly, compared to the total life of the release. [08:45] infinity: I can understand. In opencv's case with improvements in DNN, performance improvements, bug fixes and so on, it is sad not to see that come by default [13:51] tjaalton: FYI, I'm looking at bug 1753839. Do you have any opinion (as you last merged)? [13:51] bug 1753839 in memcached (Ubuntu) "memcached deadlock fixed in 1.5.5" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753839 [13:52] I'm considering bumping to 1.5.6. Assessing that bump for feature changes/FFe requirement. === crogers_ is now known as crogers [14:52] rbasak: ah, yes 1.5.6 sounds good to me === crogers_ is now known as crogers [15:28] bdmurray: hi, would you mind rejecting my python-cryptography uploads to xenial and artful? [15:38] bdmurray: ty [15:42] no problem [16:02] hey, i found that a bug in the pidgin package is caused by an ubuntu patch. how can i get someone to remove it? as far as i can see the maintainer is nobody in particular [16:02] bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/1245666 [16:02] Launchpad bug 1245666 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "Pidgin is creating zombies" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:03] coreycb: It looks like there is a test case in bug 1722553 but it isn't explicity called out and other SRU information is missing. [16:03] bug 1722553 in python-pyperclip (Ubuntu Artful) "openstack command raises exception referencing gi.repository and gnome bug 709183" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722553 [16:09] bdmurray: sorry about that, it's updated now [16:14] LocutusOfBorg: hey :) any chance you can take a look at /lastlog dx ? :) thanks [17:50] pitti: I would like to drop python-volume-key from Debian (like we did with python-blockdev) [17:51] jbicha: ah, python 2 cleanup? sure, I suppose/hope it didn't grow any dependencies by now [17:52] I don't see any :) [18:46] jbicha: ok, I'll look into that now [18:47] oh, you did already, thanks [18:50] pitti: yeah, it was a cleanup task for LP: #1754422 (which might not happen until 18.10 given the backlog) [18:50] Launchpad bug 1754422 in volume-key (Ubuntu) "[MIR] volume-key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754422 [19:00] sabdfl, ack thanks [19:00] s/sabdfl / sarnold [19:00] :) [19:00] done! [19:00] dx, thanks to you too [19:02] oh, neat, thanks [19:03] LocutusOfBorg: mind if i ask another thing? the xchat package has too many patches, could you remove the package itself? :P [19:04] Oh boy. :P [19:08] xchat? I thought that was removed ages ago, and replaced with hexchat [19:09] oh really, it came back in artful [19:11] yeah, LocutusOfBorg reintroduced it, and is now the new upstream [19:48] LP: #1753169 [19:48] Launchpad bug 1753169 in xchat (Ubuntu) "Please don't include xchat (abandoned upstream) in 18.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753169 [19:48] already filed by you dx :) [19:52] dx: however, the debian discussion seems more involved [19:53] yeah, i figured i'd just wait for them to decide there [19:53] dx: yeah, seems reasonable [19:56] of course taking a shortcut and just politely asking LocutusOfBorg to remove it was worth a shot [19:57] it worked to remove a buggy patch from the pidgin package! [19:57] totally the same thing