[07:55] <diplo> daftykins: drayteks ?
[07:56] <diplo> I get on alright with them most of the time tbh
[09:46] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:47] <Gargoyle> o/
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:50] <brobostigon> O/
[09:50] <brobostigon> o/
[10:01] <zmoylan-pi> oh no, the coneheads have invaded!! :-)
[10:08] <brobostigon> lolz.
[10:12] <diddledan> ^/
[11:10] <foobarry> O/ O/ O/
[11:11] <foobarry> |  |  |
[11:11] <foobarry> ^  ^  ^
[13:29] <daftykins> diplo: ah, i find their web admin atrociously designed
[13:29] <daftykins> definitely a case where an engineer wrote it and didn't get anyone sane to verify it ;D
[13:30] <zmoylan-pi> well... if they were sane, they wouldn't be engineers! :-P
[13:34] <daftykins> indeed!
[13:34] <diplo> daftykins: Just been on a course, can confirm :D
[13:34] <daftykins> xD
[13:34] <diplo> But.... the guys are really pliable for changes
[13:35] <daftykins> that's interesting
[13:35] <diplo> Bunch of great guys
[13:36] <daftykins> i tried out my first Ubiquiti Unifi wifi access point (WAP) yesterday, shame it seems to depend on DHCP but the included PoE injector and ceiling mount means it'll go nicely in a clients apartment build
[13:36] <daftykins> also just needed an android app installed to find and configure it, which was novel
[13:37] <zmoylan-pi> what if they only used iphones?
[13:38] <daftykins> i did get gi... cursed with an old one the other day, so that's do-able - but i'd rather not
[13:38] <daftykins> there is desktop OS management software too, but it wanted to install java so i nope'd out of that immediately :)
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> in the good old days you'd plug your psion into it's serial port and feel super geeky... :-)
[13:41] <daftykins> serial was never part of a good old day :D
[13:42] <zmoylan-pi> do you want me to link to the spitting image rs232 song?! well do you?! :-)
[13:43] <daftykins> that sounds great!
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> no one sings about usb, lightning...
[13:43] <daftykins> a friend linked me to the 'never met a nice south african' one the other day, as he was on the way there for a science conference of some kind
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlj0jBtYmQ
[13:47] <daftykins> catchy :D
[13:52] <zmoylan-pi> not as catchy as their stick a deckchair up your nose song...
[13:53] <diddledan> I'm Keith
[13:55] <daftykins> no you're not!
[13:56] <diddledan> no, but I'm pretending my name is Keith
[13:56] <daftykins> very well, cheggars
[13:59] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dom568R2jX0
[13:59] <diplo> I really want to try ubiquiti, I don't have cash and can't get work to try it out :/
[14:00] <daftykins> this one's a bit low end, ~£65 dual-band 802.11ac but 2:2 stream only, so 866Mb tops - but it'll do
[14:01] <daftykins> debating just turning off the 2.4GHz since it's so contended these days
[14:02] <diplo> I still have 2.4ghz stuff only at home - so can't do that at my place yet
[14:03] <daftykins> ah, phones or laptops or some such?
[14:03] <diplo> Both, kids have old stuff :/ can't afford to upgrade them yet
[14:03] <daftykins> ah
[14:03] <diplo> Plus they don't complain ( yet )
[14:04] <daftykins> i'd probably make 'em share an old AP alone to reduce the sharing :>
[14:05] <daftykins> i know a clients wife used to like having one she could turn off at night :D
[14:05] <diddledan> Microsoft have given up inventing new names: https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/153739/windows-10-version-1803-called-spring-creators-update
[14:05] <daftykins> haha
[14:05] <daftykins> i'd only just learnt it's 'redstone 4'
[14:06] <diddledan> so we've had "creators update", "fall creators update" and now "spring creators update". so imaginitive
[14:06] <daftykins> a friends wifes PC had gotten totally hosed by the 1709 update, so i wiped the machine and gave it back - then that broken USB update came through leaving them with no workable USB devices - MS aren't doing so great with updates of late :>
[14:11] <daftykins> weird how none of mine get these troubles though
[14:24] <zmoylan-pi> it can be luck of the draw... a particular chipset not fully tested
[17:41] <uniquorn> hey
[17:41] <uniquorn> how do i install Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_sv.tar.gz
[17:42] <diddledan> uniquorn: you follow the instructions of whoever gave you that file
[17:42] <uniquorn> diddledan: its from the official side how do i un tar it and install?
[17:43] <diddledan> to untar you can use the flags xz
[17:43] <diddledan> there's no way we're gonna know how to install it once you unpack it though
[18:40] <daftykins> uniquorn: why use OO.o? it's outdated vs. libreoffice that should be on there already if it's ubuntu
[18:57] <diddledan> epic use of Machine Learning https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-defender-halted-massive-malware-campaign-week-microsoft-says
[18:57] <zmoylan-pi> it stopped microsoft rolling out more updates to win10? :-P
[19:29] <daftykins> certainly never see Loonix distros with updates (:
[19:39] <zmoylan-pi> that's because they happen in the background not when you have to bash out a quick email changing plans in an emergency :-)
[19:40] <diddledan> is it appropriate to talk about bashing one out in public?
[19:41] <daftykins> honestly i don't know why it is that common folk are always getting prompts for updates at obscure times well after patch tuesday, if they just did them when they were supposed to instead of always closing things off, they'd be fine :>
[19:41] <daftykins> and Loonix doesn't do them in the background
[19:42] <zmoylan-pi> it can download and install updates while i'm using the app its updating... background enough for me... :-)
[19:42]  * diddledan does it in the background
[19:43] <diddledan> correction:
[19:43] <daftykins> highly doubt it does them without confirmation, that wouldn't be good
[19:43]  * diddledan bashes one out in the background ;-p
[19:43] <daftykins> diddledan: a one-liner?
[19:44] <zmoylan-pi> the kfc crisis is nearly over, they're returned to their original supplier... just a few weeks more chaos to fix problem caused by trying to save a few bob... :-P
[19:45] <zmoylan-pi> who knew moving a few thousand tonnes of chicken around the country would be difficult...
[19:46] <diddledan> I bet DHL are piddled
[19:46] <diddledan> one lost contract...
[19:47] <zmoylan-pi> seems burger king made the exact same mistake with dhl a few years back and had to go back to their original suppliers too, who are also kfc's
[19:47] <diddledan> so basically DHL can't do food
[19:48] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure the management will still get their bonuses though...
[20:53] <daftykins> my my these newest x-files episodes, it's as if they were written by an old fogey with a tinfoil hat afraid of the world changing
[20:54] <daftykins> on the plus side it looks like Scully's apartment is running on open source :D
[20:54] <zmoylan-pi> pffft, no self respecting x-files fan wears tin foil anymore... that was proven not to work in the series in the 90s... lead foil all the way... :-)
[20:55] <daftykins> not a fan, the writer!
[20:57] <zmoylan-pi> writing it now would be too complicated for a non fan with all the threads over 10 years of episodes...
[21:03] <daftykins> there were only about 3 :)
[21:05] <zmoylan-pi> that's what the greys want you to think!! :-P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_X-Files_episodes
[21:06] <daftykins> 3 arcs though
[21:06] <zmoylan-pi> 3 types of episode... monster of the week... aliens... government experimenting on people...
[21:07] <daftykins> yeah i'm seen 'em all, but there were only about 3 main arcs
[21:07]  * diddledan experiments on the weekly monster with an alien probe
[21:08] <zmoylan-pi> that was season 9 iirc :-P
[21:54] <brobostigon> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary/blackPudding.html#black-pudding what a name for a monster. :) lol.
[21:57] <zmoylan-pi> i think i was swallowed by such a beast... big mistake, it's charms were negated by me attacking it from inside...
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> took a few turns till i could reach my backup weapon... a lucky sword i kept as a boot knife...
[21:59] <brobostigon> :)
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> poor monster... it ate something that disagreed with it... :-P
[22:00] <brobostigon> lol, quite.
[22:00] <brobostigon> helps most oozes have an almost non-existant ac.
[22:03] <zmoylan-pi> none internally i can attest to...
[22:04] <brobostigon> :)
[22:06] <brobostigon> for oozes acid damage is useful, so if an ooze slams you, it automaticlly causes acid damage.
[22:10]  * diddledan oozes out the end
[22:11] <diddledan> hmm, strange discharge isn't good
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> stop eating the kfc chicken you find by side of the road... :-)
[22:11] <brobostigon> lolz.
[22:25] <diddledan> bug: https://twitter.com/zygoon/status/971872430015877126
[23:22] <daftykins> that's an amusing one
[23:22] <daftykins> although they're dreaming, i bet they're corporate Windows fanboys