[00:12] <bazhang> how much ram
[00:13] <bazhang> thats the core duo, so 32bit
[00:14] <bazhang> I have a 12 year old thinkpad with 2gb ram, core duo, that runs the full unity
[00:14] <bazhang> not fast, by any means
[00:14] <bazhang> xubuntu or even lubuntu would be better fits
[00:19] <xubuntu13d> perfect. Thanks.
[00:24] <bazhang> might try a live usb, just to see how the wifi and such works
[00:24] <bazhang> if it's intel for example, it works superbly, nothing need be added
[00:26] <Unit193> Whereas broadcom works, but may need drivers.
[00:27] <xubuntu13d> I'm totally a beginner at this. I'm making a startup disc (usb). It says I may now reboot my computer with this device. We'll see if it works
[00:27] <bazhang> funnily enough, most every printer is going to work better on linux than on windows/mac
[00:29] <xubuntu13d> When I restart this with the usb in, will it automatically work?
[00:29] <bazhang> that's what we are testing
[00:30] <xubuntu13d> nope. my regular ubuntu started, not the xubuntu on the flash drive.
[00:30] <xubuntu13d> do i have to stop it with f12 or something when it's booting?
[00:32] <bazhang> you need to change the boot order, to have it use the usb first
[00:32] <bazhang> that's a bios setting
[00:33] <xubuntu13d> I hit f10. let's see what happens
[00:33] <xubuntu13d> nope.
[00:33] <bazhang> if the xubuntu on the usb stick wont boot, thats an indicator that either you set it wrong, or didnt write it correctly to the usb
[00:33] <bazhang> what did you use to do that
[00:33] <xubuntu13d> ok. i have bios.
[00:36] <xubuntu13d> ok, i changed order to usb diskette key
[00:37] <xubuntu13d> nope. didn't work. ok.
[00:37] <bazhang> so it's the usb 'write'
[00:38] <bazhang> what did you use to do that
[00:38] <bazhang> you downloaded the iso, what was the next step
[00:50] <xubuntu13d> something happened. I got disconnected.
[00:50] <bazhang> so how did you write the iso to usb
[00:51] <xubuntu13d> i did it with startupdisk creator
[00:51] <xubuntu13d> +
[00:51] <bazhang> also was it from linux/win/mac
[00:52] <xubuntu13d> i'm on linux ubuntu 16.04
[00:52] <bazhang> does that start up ok
[00:52] <xubuntu13d> wait. i'm on windows typing you. but i'm on another computer, linux 16.04 ubuntu doing the work.
[00:53] <bazhang> are you trying to re-install over the ubuntu
[00:53] <xubuntu13d> ok, i;m going to try a different usb drive. and reformat it.
[00:53] <xubuntu13d> i'm trying to create a usb drive with xubuntu on it.
[00:54] <xubuntu13d> and then try it out and download it from there if i like it.
[00:56] <xubuntu13d> ok, i reformatted the usb.
[00:56] <bazhang> is that a re-install over the ubuntu
[00:57] <xubuntu13d> i'm not sure what you mean.
[00:57] <bazhang> that's an awful lot of work if you want to use xubuntu rather than the gnome standard ubuntu
[00:58] <xubuntu13d> yes i just want to put xubuntu on the older computer b/c the ubuntu that's on it runs really slowly.
[00:58] <bazhang> you can simply install the xfce4 xubuntu-desktop package in ubuntu, then select it after logout login
[00:58] <xubuntu13d> huh?
[00:59] <xubuntu13d> is that the same as having xubuntu on the computer?
[00:59] <bazhang> you can use any DE with the standard gnome ubuntu you currently have, but installing the kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop etc
[01:00] <xubuntu13d> i'm just a beginner who knows nothing about any of this. i'm not sure what DE is.
[01:00] <bazhang> same, as in you can select at login, and you are then in xubuntu lubuntu kubuntu, mate, what have you
[01:00] <bazhang> KDE GNOME XFCE4
[01:01] <bazhang> kubuntu ubuntu xubuntu
[01:01] <bazhang> lxde is lubuntu
[01:01] <bazhang> those are the DE
[01:01] <bazhang> desktop environment
[01:01] <xubuntu13d> ohhhhh.
[01:01] <bazhang> some are lighter, some are heavier
[01:02] <xubuntu13d> and that means that my old computer will run faster right?
[01:02] <bazhang> re-installing from a fresh iso , is a lot of work compared to what I suggest
[01:02] <bazhang> smoother, faster is up to the ram, etc on the computer
[01:03] <bazhang> that's why we wanted to test bu the live iso
[01:03] <bazhang> not for install purposes
[01:03] <xubuntu13d> right but i thought if i use xubuntu instead of ubuntu, it's not as big of an operating system.
[01:04] <bazhang> smaller ram footprint, can be
[01:04] <xubuntu13d> yeah, this computer is only centrino duo
[01:04] <bazhang> lubuntu probably being the lightest/smallest
[01:05] <bazhang> core duo is 32 bit, yes I now I have that on my 12 year old thinkpad with 2gb ram
[01:05] <xubuntu13d> intel core 2 cpu t5200 @ 1.60ghz x 2
[01:05] <bazhang> same as I have, exactly
[01:06] <xubuntu13d> so if do the login logout xfce thing, is that same as clean install of xubuntu?
[01:06] <bazhang> no
[01:06] <bazhang> there will be some few duplication of apps
[01:07] <bazhang> ones that go with that particular DE
[01:07] <xubuntu13d> maybe i should do clean install then?...
[01:07] <bazhang> what's the HDD size
[01:07] <xubuntu13d> 156 gb
[01:08] <xubuntu13d> 156.3
[01:08] <bazhang> lots of room
[01:08] <xubuntu13d> os type 64 bit
[01:08] <xubuntu13d> graphics intel 945gm
[01:08] <bazhang> so it's a core2duo
[01:08] <bazhang> you said just core duo before
[01:09] <bazhang> and how much ram
[01:09] <xubuntu13d> oh yeah, it says intel core 2 cpu t5200 @1.6ghz x 2
[01:09] <bazhang> ram?
[01:09] <xubuntu13d> is that memory?
[01:10] <xubuntu13d> 982.6 mib
[01:10] <bazhang> 2gb/4gb
[01:10] <bazhang> oh onegb
[01:10] <xubuntu13d> yeah
[01:10] <bazhang> can you up that
[01:10] <xubuntu13d> no b/c i refuse to spend one penny more on it.
[01:10] <xubuntu13d> :)
[01:11] <bazhang> so you could, but want to struggle with the one
[01:11] <bazhang> nothing is ever going to be fast on that
[01:11] <xubuntu13d> hopefully faster than this gigantic ubuntu 16.04 though i'm hoping
[01:12] <bazhang> not by much noticeable
[01:12] <xubuntu13d> ohhh
[01:13] <xubuntu13d> i just remember when i read the ubuntu requirements before installing 16.04 my specs were not minimum
[01:13] <xubuntu13d> not even close.
[01:13] <bazhang> you could turn it to being a server, but for modern web browsing and so on, a ONE gb is not even near enough
[01:14] <xubuntu13d> ok, but can i give it a try?
[01:14] <bazhang> nothing stopping you
[01:14] <bazhang> just want to give you a fyi on what to expect
[01:15] <xubuntu13d> i'm grateful. you know a lot more than i for sure.
[01:15] <bazhang> I would give it a test install of the lubuntu-desktop package before you go through the rigors of burning a usb etc
[01:17] <xubuntu13d> i'm sitting here with all the parts ready to go. i just need to get it all working. i downloaded the iso already. the usb has been reformatted.
[01:17] <xubuntu13d> and i already installed the startupdisk creator.
[01:17] <bazhang> ok. I leave you to it, and great luck!
[01:18] <xubuntu13d> ok, thanks!
[05:30] <chegney_> hi
[05:31] <flocculant> morning
[05:31] <chegney_> I just added a drive to my laptop that has windows on it, how do I open up and reconfigure a boot loader to give me the choice on which to boot to now?
[05:32] <chegney_> currently I have to do it through the bios by pressing a key to interrupt normal boot when I turn the PC on
[05:32] <cfhowlett> chegney_, reinstall or reconfigure grub
[05:32] <flocculant> chegney_: cfhowlett was quicker :p
[05:32] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:32] <flocculant> chegney_: open a terminal - run sudo update-grub
[05:32] <flocculant> see if it picks it up
[05:33] <flocculant> if it doesn't I'm nowhere close to awake enough to troubleshoot ...
[05:33] <chegney_> it says it found Windows 10
[05:34] <flocculant> when you reboot, it 'should' be there for you then
[05:34] <chegney_> okay, I'll give it a try, thanks for your help!
[05:40] <chegney_> hi all, that worked, thanks again
[05:40] <cfhowlett> t'is ubuntu magic!
[05:41] <flocculant> chegney_: good - thank your lucky stars it wasn't the other way around :)
[05:42] <chegney_> adding linix afterwards?
[05:43] <flocculant> yea
[05:45] <chegney_> they are on completely separate physical drives so wouldn't have made too much difference
[06:17] <chegney_> you can't install minecraft through apt?
[06:24] <flocculant> chegney_: https://laptop.ninja/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu/
[06:26] <Andrio> You can install Java through APT, I think
[06:26]  * Andrio hasn't tried running Minecraft on OpenJDK yet.
[06:27] <chegney_> ah, I just downloaded the jar file and am trying it with openjdk
[06:29] <Andrio> Has it crashed yet?
[06:31] <chegney_> not yet
[06:33] <chegney_> when I installed the JRE, I just chose default-jre and it installed openjdk 8
[12:22] <xubunturjgs> Good Morning galera!!!
[14:33] <glitchd> what can i do to get my xubuntu machine to skip the lightdm login screen and go straight to the desktop?
[17:21] <xubuntu43i> curently installing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:22] <xubuntu43i> Did anyone had experiance with installing ubunty on usb
[20:41] <Senpos> Hi there. I'd like to test latest Xubuntu build. Do i have to download Daily build or Beta 1? Both of them seems to be very fresh.
[20:58] <flocculant> if anyone else wants to know the answer - when there's a milestone running - the daily is the same image
[21:59] <saderror256> how do I get all of those WM themes that Xfce4 came with on other distros (arch linux)?
[21:59] <saderror256> Xubuntu by default only comes with 10 themes
[21:59] <saderror256> for the WM