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IrcsomeBot2 | <DarinMiller> @acheronuk, Rik yes I normally use auto login for testing. I can try both ways later this evening if you want me to test something. | 00:28 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, That explains how YOU manage to pass the oem install tests then :P | 00:29 |
valorie | I passed it with a password! | 00:29 |
valorie | on i386 not only is there no oem option, there is no auto-resize option either | 00:30 |
valorie | there was on the 16.04 installer | 00:30 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> odd. I'll try in a vm in the morning | 00:30 |
valorie | gonna file a bug about that once this install finished | 00:31 |
valorie | I tried to drop to a terminal at every step of the way and could not | 00:31 |
valorie | just got a blank screen with one little blinky | 00:31 |
valorie | tried about 10 times | 00:32 |
valorie | this one is autologin because I've never tried that before and no way is this staying on my travel laptop | 00:32 |
valorie | amd64 encrypted baby | 00:33 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, please try with ubiquity from ppa:rikmills/oem-config-bug1447144 | 00:34 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> update ubuniquity when at the stage with the 'prepare to ship' desktop icon | 00:35 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> *ubiquity | 00:36 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> that should fix the black screen when tried without auto-login being set for the new user | 00:37 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> the backports PPA includes apps for all versions of Kubuntu, right? | 01:07 |
valorie | I don't think so Nate, but I don't know details | 01:10 |
valorie | tsimonq2: do you know? | 01:10 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> not trusty | 01:30 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> other releases, what is practical for us to do | 01:31 |
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mparillo | You can find out which versions of which apps are backported for which release by manipulating the filter on: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports?field.series_filter=artful | 02:23 |
mparillo | Either directly in the URL, or the dropdown in Published In: | 02:24 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <DarinMiller> @mparillo, ๐ | 03:11 |
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valorie | !info falkon | 04:32 |
ubottu | Package falkon does not exist in bionic | 04:32 |
tsimonq2 | Working on it. | 04:32 |
valorie | didn't think so | 04:32 |
tsimonq2 | It's in bionic-proposed./ | 04:32 |
valorie | ok | 04:32 |
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tsimonq2 | I have some stuff to do on it. | 04:32 |
tsimonq2 | But I haven't forgotten! | 04:32 |
valorie | I'm not adding proposed to my new install | 04:32 |
valorie | :-) | 04:32 |
valorie | !info peruse | 04:33 |
ubottu | Package peruse does not exist in bionic | 04:33 |
valorie | fooey | 04:33 |
tsimonq2 | Yeah, I'll see if I can kick that. | 04:33 |
valorie | thanks! | 04:33 |
tsimonq2 | yw :) | 04:33 |
valorie | hmmm, looks like signal desktop app isn't available for bionic yet | 04:58 |
valorie | oh well | 04:58 |
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acheronuk | beta 1 ready | 09:02 |
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Blueskaj | 'Morning folks | 10:01 |
santa_ | good morning everyone | 10:44 |
BluesKaj | 'Morning santa_ | 10:45 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> I know this is not a Kubuntu thing but rather a Kwin thing but... would it be possible to adjust the No Border feature to display the window shadow while keeping the tiling features of no border at all? | 14:01 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> I mean possible in theory, not like right now | 14:01 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> I think so because that's how I'm using it | 14:10 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> I have No Borders, and I tile my windows, and I get shadows | 14:10 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> not sure I did anything special | 14:11 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> Hmm. For me the shadows disappear when I activate no borders | 14:12 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> There is a no border setting in the breeze deco config, which keeps the title bar. or there is a no border option in the window actions menu which removes the deco completely. They are not the same thing. | 14:14 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> I use the one in the Breeze decoration config | 14:14 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> I always keep my titlebars | 14:14 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun and you? | 14:14 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> The 1st keeps the shadows. The 2nd does not. | 14:15 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> https://youtu.be/5zDOK-TFQbE | 14:27 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> AFAIK the shadow is rendered as part of the deco, so fully removing it natually removes the shadow as well. | 14:29 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> is it possible to change that? โฆ Is it possible to make an adjustment to KWin so that is the default to keep the shadow while retaining the tiling features? | 14:30 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> You can get rid of that line BTW | 14:31 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @acheronuk, I know I can but I shouldnt have to :) | 14:31 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun, I suspect not without some rewrite so its hiding the deco, not removing it. | 14:32 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> Plasma -devs are better placed to asnswer that. | 14:32 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> yea I know. I was just curious whether it would be even practical at all before discussing it with them. I've hit brick walls in discussions with some people in that group :) | 14:34 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> hard to say | 14:39 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> ok np | 14:47 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> when is the beta release and can I just go ahead and download it now? :) | 14:48 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun, Possibly in as little as 2 hrs time. Though that could change. | 14:51 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> Our current candidate images are at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20180306.1/ | 14:51 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> Unlikey to be re-spun, but as always check hashs against the official ones when they are in the right place | 14:52 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> cool thanks downloading now | 14:52 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> I am impatient sometimes | 14:52 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> No many of the settings changes are in. As need to decide how to implement them. e.g. some can be integrated into a look and feel theme, while others can't. so need to decide if we go with such a theme or not. | 14:54 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> Have been too busy the last week trying to get actual packages in! | 14:55 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun ok. reading in #ubuntu-release 2 hrs is unlikely. we are waiting on lubuntu, who are being slackers on the testing ;) | 15:02 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> probably because nobody actually uses it now that Plasma is so lightweight ๐น | 15:05 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> ouch! lol | 15:05 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @acheronuk, :) | 15:05 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> so I have another suggestion that I will make a task if ya like it | 15:06 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> I'm going to need a task to keep track of the other tasks soon :P | 15:06 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> Super+B as default shortcut for removing the window borders. โฆ I just tested it in Kubuntu daily. There isn't a default shortcut for it at all and Super+B is not used by anything so there is no existing conflict. | 15:06 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @acheronuk, listening to the first suggestion was your mistake :) | 15:07 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> when you say "window borders", are you including the titlebar in that? | 15:07 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun, Is that as assignable action by default? I forget? | 15:07 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @nggraham, yes the default functionality of "no borders" | 15:07 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> no borders doesn't hide the titlebar | 15:08 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @acheronuk, it is technically assignable in Kwin Shortcuts but it has nothing assigned to it | 15:08 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @nggraham, yea, it does Nate. | 15:08 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> there must be two settings with the exact same name then | 15:08 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> because the one I use does not | 15:09 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> right click title, more actions, no border removes it all including titlebar | 15:09 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> (in System Settings > Application Style > Window Decorations > Border Size) | 15:09 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <nggraham> ah ok, that no border | 15:10 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> for the shortcut assigning โฆ System Settings -> Shortcuts -> Global Shortcuts -> KWin -> Hide Window Border | 15:10 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> (Photo, 525x428) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/tnz0GXSI/file_5111.jpg | 15:11 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @nggraham, oh I see what you mean . . . that should be called border padding not size | 15:11 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> Sweet! http://blog.broulik.de/2018/03/gtk-global-menu/ | 15:12 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun, I don't see that | 15:12 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> remember nothing in System Settings is alphabetical for some reason. It is towards the top though | 15:13 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> there is no kwin | 15:14 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> what now | 15:14 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> in Global? | 15:14 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun, Ah. Its under system settings for me | 15:15 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @MichaelTun, ^ :) | 15:15 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> (Photo, 795x620) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Te0H4Sk3/file_5119.jpg | 15:16 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> There is no Kwin catagory | 15:16 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> wow that is super weird | 15:17 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> I dont even have a System Settings component in my Global Shortcuts options | 15:17 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> plasma version? | 15:18 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> I have System Settings in my main install but it doesnt exist in the daily Kubuntu ISO for me. | 15:18 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> although it only exists in my main install for Activity switching | 15:18 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> weird | 15:19 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> So thoughts on the idea | 16:23 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> have to think on it. if it's unallocated and non conficting, then probably. | 16:24 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @acheronuk, It's both of those ๐ | 16:26 |
santa_ | acheronuk: hey I finally have some time today to review apps autopkgtests issues, regarding the kcalutils issue: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391287 I suggest you to send the patch to reviewboard if you haven't already. that increases the chances of getting the thing fixed | 16:36 |
ubottu | KDE bug 391287 in general "kcalutils/autotest fails - kcalutils-testincidenceformatter" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 16:36 |
santa_ | in general send patches to reviewboard >>>>> filing bugs | 16:36 |
santa_ | the kde bug tracker has so many reports that many times the developers don't even have time to deal with all of them | 16:38 |
santa_ | however it's much more difficult to get the thing "ignored" if you send a patch | 16:38 |
acheronuk | santa_: ah. I meant to talk to the kde dev there, as it should have been fixed with a backported commit, but I only noticed afterwards that the backport increased the expected value, not decreased it. so I meant to ask if that was valid for 17.12 or another change was required | 16:42 |
acheronuk | oh. wait. wrong test | 16:43 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> @MichaelTun, I meant both of those as in not allocated and doesn't conflict with anything. I tested that before suggesting. :) | 16:45 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> @MichaelTun, Yup. got that :) | 16:47 |
IrcsomeBot2 | <MichaelTun> ๐๐๐ | 17:07 |
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IrcsomeBot2 | <acheronuk> Hopefully will have a new Muon version out soon. | 18:29 |
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valorie | santa_: phab > reviewboard just to be nit-picky | 22:38 |
valorie | tsimonq2: wxl: I'm downloading beta1 images for seeding and notice that lubuntu isn't on the list? | 22:39 |
wxl | valorie: nope. :( | 22:39 |
valorie | what happened? | 22:39 |
valorie | you were on the qatracker | 22:39 |
wxl | couldn't get enough testing done and we had some really nasty ubiquity bug | 22:39 |
valorie | damn it | 22:40 |
valorie | I coulda tested had I known you needed more | 22:40 |
valorie | I found loads of little bugs and reported 'em | 22:40 |
valorie | but my showstoppers acheronuk got around | 22:40 |
acheronuk | would have just confirmed the lubuntu bug more | 22:41 |
wxl | you should hang about lubuntu-devel :) | 22:41 |
valorie | Too Many Chans | 22:41 |
valorie | maybe you can fix it by beta2 | 22:41 |
wxl | we darn well better | 22:41 |
acheronuk | had better! | 22:41 |
valorie | acheronuk fixed our oem bug \o/ | 22:42 |
acheronuk | I have a potential fix | 22:42 |
wxl | wow | 22:42 |
valorie | fixed for me | 22:42 |
wxl | that's a miracle | 22:42 |
acheronuk | needs review | 22:42 |
acheronuk | it's actually very simple. stupidly so for something that has been there so long | 22:43 |
valorie | https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-bionic-beaver-18-04-beta-1-released/ <--- spread it! | 22:43 |
valorie | https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/972241959153582080 | 22:45 |
acheronuk | I wonder if there is any beaver artwork hiding on LP like there was for aardvark | 22:48 |
valorie | oh, haven | 22:49 |
valorie | t seen any, yeah | 22:49 |
valorie | I liked the little quote in the official announcement | 22:50 |
acheronuk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1717309 | 22:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1717309 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "17.10 Artful Aardvark Mascot" [High,Fix released] | 22:57 |
acheronuk | that was the bug where the aardvark appeared | 22:58 |
acheronuk | no equivalent yet for BB | 22:58 |
santa_ | valorie: actually I meant phab, yes. so many years with reviewboard XD | 23:01 |
santa_ | good night | 23:08 |
valorie | yup, just wanted to clarify for anyone new | 23:35 |
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