[07:01] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:01] <Blueskaj> 'Morning folks
[10:53] <proctrap> hi, under nvidia KMail & Okular are getting pixelated font scaling, any ideas ?
[10:54] <proctrap> Kmail for example: he menu for Folders & the email list works fine, but the mail content window, including the header is completely pixelated ( as if zooming into a jpg text )
[10:54] <proctrap> on my integrated intel graphics, I don't have this problem
[10:55] <proctrap> (using nvidia driver 390.25 )
[10:58] <BluesKaj> ahh Optimus hybrid gpu system I bet
[10:59] <BluesKaj> proctrap, ^
[11:01] <BluesKaj> assume you have nvidia-prime installed, proctrap
[11:03] <proctrap> BluesKaj: yes
[11:04] <proctrap> ( although sadly the graphics performance under nvidia isn't that good -.- at least full opengl / cuda support)
[11:04] <proctrap> in firefox & every other application it looks okay, but in kmail I can't get it to non pixeling
[11:05] <proctrap> and ocular pixelates when you're zooming a little bit, which is totally fine under intel
[11:05] <proctrap> [ Force Fonts DPI 112 | Display Scale 1.2 ]
[11:10] <BluesKaj> dpi 112 , isn't that a little high for a laptop ?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> default is usually 96 dpi ...best to set the resolutiuon or your fonts a bit higher instead
[11:21] <proctrap> where can I increase the font resolution ?
[11:21] <proctrap> I'm using a high dpi setting to force bigger fonts, otherwise the scaling goes awkward
[11:21] <hateball> proctrap: alt+space, search fonts
[11:21] <BluesKaj> systemsettings fonts
[11:22] <proctrap> so, just increase the size of all of them ?
[11:22] <proctrap> that's messy and I've tried that once
[11:23] <proctrap> as I don't see a "resolution" option, just size
[11:23] <BluesKaj> proctrap, correction: system settings>appearance>fonts
[11:24] <proctrap> yes
[11:24] <proctrap> but there is no "resolution" option
[11:24] <BluesKaj> proctrap, which Kubuntu OS are you running?
[11:24] <proctrap> all I can do, is to manuall increase every font size by at least 2
[11:24] <proctrap> KUbuntu 17.10
[11:24] <BluesKaj> resolution is in system settings>monitor and display
[11:25] <proctrap> I'm not sure I get you
[11:25] <proctrap> I can increase the display scaling
[11:25] <proctrap> but then all my fonts are still as tiny as I started with
[11:25] <proctrap> so I can't read anything
[11:26] <proctrap> display resolution is on max, as per default full HD
[11:27] <BluesKaj> did you try to increase the fonts in system settings>fonts
[11:27] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:27] <proctrap> so you mean increasing all font sizes ?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> yes
[11:27] <proctrap> I'
[11:27] <proctrap> ve tried that once, but it was really messy to override verything manually
[11:28] <proctrap> gonna reboot
[11:29] <BluesKaj> no need to reboot
[11:29] <proctrap> it seems like konversation is using the biggest font ?! looks like a headline now
[11:29] <BluesKaj> just konversations fonts can be set with in the app itself
[11:30] <BluesKaj> think this guy isn't too familiar with kde/plasma
[11:31] <proctrap> ok so this was kind of getting the same result as with a higher DPI scaling seting
[11:31] <proctrap> now everything looks like when I started this conversation
[11:31] <proctrap> but KMail  message window is still a pixelated thing
[11:31] <BluesKaj>  konversations fonts can be set with in the app itself
[11:33] <proctrap> https://s14.postimg.org/jrsidgupt/Screenshot_20180309_123246.png
[11:33] <proctrap> no zooming
[11:33] <BluesKaj> look in settings>configure konversation>fonts
[11:33] <proctrap> so the issue is still here, kmail/okular have messed up fonts for content
[11:34] <proctrap> BluesKaj: after a reboot konversation is fine now
[11:34] <proctrap> but the initial problem: KMail & Okular having messed up font scaling under Nvidia is still there
[11:34] <proctrap> see my screenshot
[11:35] <proctrap> the ui (to the left) is completely fine, but the message window (see header & message) is pixelated
[11:35] <proctrap> and this is only happening under nvidia
[11:35] <BluesKaj> well dunno much about kmail since i don't use it
[11:35] <BluesKaj> but your screenshot doesn't show in that url
[11:36] <proctrap> https://postimg.org/image/7px4jblh9/
[11:36] <proctrap> works in private mode here also
[11:36] <BluesKaj> ok I see it now
[11:37] <proctrap> same thing with okular, text rendering is off
[11:38] <BluesKaj> which nvidia gpu ?
[11:45] <proctrap> BluesKaj: GTX 965M
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ok, that uses the 390 alright
[11:53] <proctrap> ? some specification
[11:56] <proctrap> argh now I've to increase the font for other programs, seems like the DPI switch was a fast although apparently messy trick
[11:56] <BluesKaj> it's the general driver for most non legacy nvidias atm
[11:57] <hateball> proctrap: are you using any form of hinting for your fonts?
[11:57] <hateball> using full hinting I've had some weird rendering issues
[11:59] <proctrap> hateball: not that I would know about, and I can't find that under fonts
[11:59] <proctrap> it's not just fonts
[12:00] <proctrap> it's like everything that seems to be "direct" rendered or something like that
[12:00] <proctrap> the logout/shutdown  screen for example is also pixelated
[12:00] <proctrap> from the logos to the fonts
[12:00] <proctrap> or the display scaling option
[12:01] <proctrap> https://postimg.org/image/rr1gmcril/
[12:02] <proctrap> https://postimg.org/image/wpoz0y871/
[12:02] <proctrap> [ click on view image for non scaled view ]
[12:04] <proctrap> I don't know the architecture exactly but that looks like some stuff is rendered differently (prob. X11 vs KWin ?! )
[12:04] <proctrap> and for example X11 is messing up scaling
[12:04] <BluesKaj> kwin uses X11
[12:05] <proctrap> yes but does stuff on it's own IIRC
[12:20] <scanning_please> loving my kubuntu .. hating its relationship to my hp printer scanner
[12:20] <scanning_please> i got my printer to print using the generic (en) drivers and giving it an ip on the local network
[12:21] <scanning_please> now i am trying to get scanlite or simple scan to  see the scanner
[12:21] <scanning_please> scanlite throws and error before i get a chance to add and settings to it
[12:22] <scanning_please> opening the selected scanner faild
[12:26] <BluesKaj> yeah i have thr HP envy 4500 all-in-one printer/scanner ...haven't found any app yet that works in scan mode , even the hplip-3.17.11.run driver doesn't do anything except print
[12:28] <proctrap> BluesKaj: found the culprit
[12:29] <proctrap> display scaling is completely broken for nvidia
[12:29] <proctrap> without it everythign works
[12:29] <proctrap> but I'll get back to font DPI enforcement, as some java applications are just too tiny without it
[12:31] <scanning_please> when i go to the hp site for my printer they send me into a linux black hole that says its all in hplip unless it isnt and then screw you
[12:32] <scanning_please> guess i should have verified the device with linux before i bought it
[12:32] <scanning_please> laser jet pro mfp m125nw
[12:32] <BluesKaj> not here, I downloaded the driver from sourceforge link which is provided by HP
[13:45] <proctrap> another question: I want to run a script as root on login
[13:45] <proctrap> there are countless answers, my problem: the solution with /etc/pam.d/login does not work under Kubuntu
[13:46] <proctrap> (it does not work with the KDE login to be precise, virtual terminal works fine)
[13:52] <proctrap> I am still figuring out if I can achieve the same with systemd, but afaik systemd doesn't know anything about user logins
[13:52] <proctrap> (graphical)
[14:22] <proctrap> ok so I managed to use ~/.config/autostart-scripts but what I need is "/shutdown-scripts"
[14:55] <proctrap> ok found it, all these legacy folders from which various programs read stuff are a mess
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[20:18] <yuriy> hello. i moved yesterday config file with "mv" command, but i thought i made "cp" and did ovverride my important server config...
[20:18] <yuriy> i tried extundelete, but it doesnt help
[22:13] <valorie> yuriy: cp it back?