[09:12] <lisbeths> I am looking to try a prerelease candidate for 18.04 vanilla 64 bit desktop
[09:13] <lisbeths> Hopefully an iso that is not going to crash on me
[09:13] <ducasse> lisbeths: read the topic
[09:13] <lisbeths> Are the daily builds safe?
[09:13] <lisbeths> I am not looking for say arch linux style
[09:14] <ducasse> they are the latest isos you can get
[09:14] <lisbeths> alright I'll try it out. Hopefully it is more like debian sid or fedora stable than like arch
[09:14] <ducasse> you should expect problems, though. if you can't handle manual packages breakage etc a daily build is not for you
[09:18] <lisbeths> Eh
[09:19] <lisbeths> I feel like I could pick up package breakages if It happens
[09:19] <lisbeths> The only thing I usually install is emacs
[09:27] <Pharmasolin> Hi everyone, is here someone on ubuntu 18.04 with Nvidia card? I need nvidia driver but there was a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053 and i'm not sure if it safe now to install it.
[09:34] <Faux> It was broken for me, and is now working again. But I have some problems, e.g. Chrome on Google Maps is now awfully slow. But, what do you expect, prerelease.
[09:57] <Pharmasolin> @Faux i see, so you installed nvidia-driver-390 or just nvidia-390 from ppa?
[09:58] <Faux> I'm not using any ppas. nvidia-XXX are just transition packages to nvidia-driver-XXX now I think.
[09:59] <Pharmasolin> Do you use bionic-proposed rep?
[09:59] <Faux> No.
[10:00] <Pharmasolin> Ok thanks
[10:04] <Pharmasolin> Hm weird http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/18/0309/h_1520589840_6215328_5e8c6efccd.png
[10:04] <Pharmasolin> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1520589879.png
[10:05] <Faux> As I said, nvidia-384 is just an alias for nvidia-driver-390 now. SUPER CONFUSING.
[10:08] <Pharmasolin> Will try, if system will die will update bug report :)
[13:27] <Onigiri> I have a silly issue on a bionic setup. If I ssh in with konsole from another host... I can clear the terminal with clear just fine.. but if I fire up a tmux instance and try to clear in that... it just rehomes the cursor and doesn't wipe the screen
[13:30] <Onigiri> If the session that connects to tmux has term of xterm-256color, it will fail to clear inside tmux. If the term is linux, it works ok.
[14:00] <CoJaBo> Is it possible to make Bionic not brick every single time the network interface name changes?
[14:53] <Odd_Bloke> CoJaBo: Could you describe your problem in a little more detail, please?
[15:16] <CoJaBo> Odd_Bloke: If the network interface name changes, the system hangs for a very long time at boot (sometimes it seems to continue, sometimes seems to hang forever), so you can't easily fix the problem
[15:17] <CoJaBo> Also, is the manpage for the version of zfs used in bionic available online? All I'm finding are what appear to be incredibly old versions
[15:22] <TJ-> CoJaBo: if that's due to a systemd-networkd configuration change the .network file to match on another property of the interface that doesn't change, such as it's MAC address
[15:25] <CoJaBo> ?
[16:49] <donofrio> any hope of getting xfwm4.13 into the repo's/installed by default in 18.04?
[16:49] <donofrio> I only see 4.12 now ;( https://apaste.info/5GBv
[16:50] <donofrio> 4.13 switched from Xrender to opengl ;)
[16:52] <nacc> donofrio: it's after feature freeze
[16:52] <nacc> donofrio: so unless the xubuntu devs want to deal with that transition, and there is a bug filed and approved by the release team, then no.
[16:52] <nacc> donofrio: the appropriate place to ask is in a bug, though, not the support channel
[16:52] <donofrio> ok I'll bug it - tnx
[16:54] <donofrio> what url to bug tried "github.com/Ubuntu but only shows 30 projects and no xfwm listed ;(
[16:55] <nacc> donofrio: uh, really?
[16:55] <nacc> !bug
[16:55] <nacc> donofrio: github is not related to ubuntu the distro in general
[16:55] <nacc> donofrio: you've never reported an ubuntu bug?
[16:59] <donofrio> I've done launchpad bugs before just forgot where I needed to go for a min
[17:18] <flocculant> donofrio: xfwm4 4.13 is a dev release
[17:18] <flocculant> not likely that we'll be changing to it for an LTS version
[17:55] <donofrio> flocculant, do you have a repo where I could install it on 18.04?
[17:56] <flocculant> donofrio: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/experimental
[17:58] <flocculant> there are a couple of other xubuntu ppa's we use if you're interested
[17:58] <donofrio> very much intrested
[17:58] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/extras
[17:59] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:59] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[17:59] <flocculant> all these PPA's are Xubuntu Dev Team - even the shimmer one - this is what I'm using
[18:00] <donofrio> sounds great thank you....
[18:00] <flocculant> no problem - I have an xfce/xubuntu ping from this channel - but we live in #xubuntu-devel
[20:47] <tlanix> hello
[20:47] <tlanix> iam on 18.04 and Remmina won't connect to RDP windows server
[20:47] <tlanix> also screen brightness controls on my laptop not accurate 
[22:10] <BenLubar> This works with Xenial, but with Bionic, it gives errors about std::isfinite and std::snprintf not existing: https://git.io/vAhwa
[22:22] <BenLubar> aww crap I used nprocs instead of nproc - use this repro instead: https://git.io/vAhon
[22:42] <stochastix> Is 18.04 using x11 by default? Or still on wayland?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> stochastix: 18.04 will now have X11 as the default with wayland as the option .
[22:44] <stochastix> I see, thanks
[23:21] <BLZbubba> is ubuntu 18.04 able to set the MTU with netplan?  it seems to be ignoring the setting