| kenvandine | willcooke! | 07:38 |
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| kenvandine | seb128! | 07:39 |
| kenvandine | seb128, https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/userd/ui/zenity.go | 07:39 |
| willcooke | morning didrocks | 07:43 |
| willcooke | duflu, are you around if we get started a bit early? | 07:44 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:44 |
| duflu | willcooke, yes and no. Working on the google doc for a bit | 07:44 |
| duflu | Hang on | 07:44 |
| duflu | willcooke, yes. Let me know when. | 07:46 |
| willcooke | duflu, didrocks - lemme just see if I can resolve the audio | 07:47 |
| willcooke | duflu, didrocks ok, in the hangout now... https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/desktop-team?authuser=0 | 07:50 |
| * duflu has to grab and set up the peripherals | 07:51 | |
| seb128 | jbicha, when I talked about meson 0.45 with Jussi he wrote that | 08:01 |
| seb128 | <jpakkane> Well it is an LTS so it might make sense to have 0.44.1 in there because 0.45.0 will probably have regressions. | 08:01 |
| seb128 | <jpakkane> It has a _ton_ of features. | 08:01 |
| seb128 | jbicha, in any case you need a ffe for that update | 08:02 |
| seb128 | jbicha, bug #1754578 | 08:04 |
| ubot5` | bug 1754578 in meson (Ubuntu) "New meson version including features uploaded without ffe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754578 | 08:04 |
| willcooke | duflu, speaking of libinput: https://t.co/1br5Jb40ZP | 08:08 |
| willcooke | also for lols:https://twitter.com/zygoon/status/971872430015877126 | 08:08 |
| duflu | willcooke, yeah you will see I answered that one | 08:08 |
| seb128 | duflu, tjaalton, should we sync 1.10.2 from Debian? | 08:10 |
| tjaalton | yes | 08:10 |
| duflu | seb128, it usually happens quickly | 08:10 |
| duflu | (thanks tjaalton) | 08:10 |
| seb128 | duflu, well, the new one is in Debian but we stopped doing autosyncs at this point of the cycle so it's a manual decision now | 08:11 |
| duflu | seb128, yeah it looks like we may need to even consider 1.11 depending on whether some fixes get into 1.10.x | 08:11 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, duflu, unsure if we consider " Introduce omnidirectional (elliptical) hysteresis" as a feature that requires a ffe | 08:11 |
| duflu | Wait and see when those fixes exist in a single branch | 08:11 |
| tjaalton | I still hope to see some sort of help to thinkpads trackpoints, they're pretty much unusable OOTB :/ | 08:12 |
| duflu | seb128, it's a fix really, with a bug entry | 08:12 |
| seb128 | k | 08:13 |
| duflu | I'm already thinking bionic will need 1.10.3 ... 1.11 or something | 08:14 |
| duflu | later | 08:14 |
| seb128 | duflu, well, we can start with .2 to at least fix that crash bug | 08:15 |
| duflu | seb128, yeah. Basically AFAIK the right code exists in master | 08:15 |
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| willcooke | thanks duflu | 08:21 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I'm not sure we have enough free cycles to work on https://trello.com/c/XSHSCayy/86-separate-unity-settings-daemon-monitors-settings-and-migrate-scaling-settings before bionic is out | 08:22 |
| Trevinho | seb128: first part of it is a quick thing I'll do it in u-s-d | 08:23 |
| seb128 | let's discuss/see what other priorities we have | 08:28 |
| duflu | Yes, just checked. The "final" touchpad fixes landed on master a little after 1.10.2 happened | 08:30 |
| duflu | In other news, anyone? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/664748 | 08:33 |
| willcooke | didrocks, duflu was the audio any better generally? | 08:35 |
| duflu | willcooke, worse I think | 08:36 |
| willcooke | :( | 08:36 |
| * willcooke scraps that plan | 08:36 | |
| didrocks | well, at least, we can hear everyone | 08:36 |
| seb128 | duflu, is that https://launchpad.net/bluez ? | 08:36 |
| duflu | seb128, I think it was yes | 08:36 |
| didrocks | even if the quality itself was worse, it was possible to hear them and understand | 08:36 |
| didrocks | which is a plus IMHO :) | 08:36 |
| seb128 | duflu, try asking on #launchpad / to cwatson | 08:37 |
| duflu | seb128, nevermind. I really didn't need another context switch. Was just reminded by email that the question expired (and the "official" docs told me to make it a question IIRC) | 08:37 |
| duflu | Plus Colin usually responds to my LP questions, eventually | 08:38 |
| duflu | tjaalton, sorry I keep forgetting I have TrackPoint. But at the same time, whot needs a holiday from me | 08:40 |
| tjaalton | duflu: heh, well I've been toying with the udev rules but haven't found anything to match what it was before | 08:43 |
| tjaalton | there's a bug upstream (gnome) about adding a slider for trackpoints to g-c-c | 08:45 |
| duflu | tjaalton, oh so the setting exists, just no gui? | 08:45 |
| duflu | That said, libinput is aiming for sane defaults, so the default being unusable is still a bug | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | it's sane for t440 | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | just not for *50 and up | 08:47 |
| tjaalton | https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/trackpoints.html | 08:47 |
| tjaalton | https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/udev_config.html#hwdb_modifying | 08:47 |
| duflu | tjaalton, indeed. Do you know the change to make? Or just pointing out where to make it? | 08:48 |
| duflu | libinput 1.10.2 got a similar tweak for Apple Magic Trackpad | 08:48 |
| tjaalton | nope, it's in the code but haven't looked deeper, just tested hwdb quirks for now | 08:49 |
| duflu | tjaalton, if you have a quirk that works, that same text file exists in the source tree. Just propose a patch | 08:50 |
| tjaalton | ok | 08:50 |
| duflu | Although I'm not sure all parameters are yet tweakable | 08:51 |
| duflu | quirk-able | 08:51 |
| Laney | tjaalton: hi, any chance you can cherry-pick a309323328d9d6e0bf5d9ea1d75920e53b9beef3 for xorg-server please? | 09:07 |
| Laney | I think it's the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1748926 but the symptom for me is that it broke X ... | 09:07 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1748926 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "From 1.19.6 on, X treats every device as an input device" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:07 |
| tjaalton | ah that | 09:08 |
| tjaalton | was hoping for 1.19.7 to arrive by now, I'll add that next week | 09:09 |
| === pstolowski_ is now known as pstolowski | ||
| Laney | this was a bit annoying, I was trying to present and screen share but couldn't get on an X session to do that | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | "oops" | 09:11 |
| tjaalton | literally | 09:12 |
| Laney | :-) | 09:12 |
| Laney | dev release fun | 09:13 |
| Laney | jbicha: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tYqWwsqkT3/ | 09:13 |
| Laney | looks like I forgot to fish it out of my stash and push it | 09:13 |
| Laney | would have made some aspects of the demo easier | 09:13 |
| darkxst | hey desktopers! | 09:26 |
| darkxst | Laney, I have used gbp quite a bit over the years, but how will it scale with debian/ubuntu using different brnaches and repos? | 09:30 |
| darkxst | will there be a delta on every gbp.conf file in packages? | 09:36 |
| didrocks | jibel: another ubiquity MR for you :) (will still need a FFe if we don't have it yet): https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/intall-metrics/+merge/341229 | 10:26 |
| didrocks | unsure still how to run autopilot tests though to adjust tests | 10:26 |
| didrocks | I had to revert the previous commit to make it unstalable in my tests | 10:27 |
| jbicha | Laney: thanks. I found debian-tag based on what you said | 10:27 |
| jbicha | seb128: oh oops about meson. last cycle we had reason to need newer meson versions since GNOME was needing new features, but I regretted syncing after I pressed the button | 10:29 |
| seb128 | jbicha, should have blocked in it proposed so we could have deleted it :/ | 10:30 |
| jbicha | now that we're on meson 0.45, do we expect that anything is broken though? | 10:30 |
| seb128 | now we need a revert | 10:30 |
| seb128 | well we have a process | 10:30 |
| seb128 | either we need a ffe and have it approved or to revert | 10:30 |
| jbicha | I won't push any newer versions of meson this cycle without discussion | 10:30 |
| seb128 | also maybe check with upstream | 10:30 |
| seb128 | Jussi recommended we stay on 0.44 when I talked to him | 10:30 |
| seb128 | well, 0.45 is already an issue, we need to sort that one out now | 10:31 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, getting a 4040 on this page (as linked to from your bug): https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/add-method-to-show-recently-updated-snaps | 11:02 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, is it just me | 11:02 |
| willcooke | ? | 11:02 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, I renamed the title, and thought it kept the old link :/ | 11:03 |
| robert_ancell | https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/no-method-to-show-recently-updated-snaps/4409 | 11:03 |
| willcooke | thanks robert_ancell | 11:03 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, jamesh: https://github.com/Ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/100 | 11:19 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/323 | 11:29 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, gnome-characters snap now shows color emoji on bionic | 11:31 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: nice … but why are you using EmojiOne instead of Noto Color Emoji? | 11:33 |
| kenvandine | i didn't intentionally | 11:34 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, it actually should be using the fonts on the host | 11:35 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, i need to remove those fonts | 11:36 |
| Laney | darkxst: delta> yes, scalability> unknown! | 11:36 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: I don't have Emoji One installed, basically it looks like the first screenshot instead of the second at https://community.ubuntu.com/t/try-color-emoji-in-18-04/1492 | 11:37 |
| jbicha | oh, fonts-emojione is in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-3-26/+packages | 11:38 |
| jbicha | ricotz: could you look into LP: #1682455 for Firefox 60? | 12:24 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1682455 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "thunderbird not available in GNOME Software" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1682455 | 12:24 |
| ricotz | jbicha, moving the symlink does the trick? | 12:42 |
| jbicha | I think so. Thunderbird does show up in Debian's GNOME Software so maybe look at what they're doing (Debian does a bit more complex stuff with icons though) | 12:48 |
| jbicha | appstream metadata is a bit of a pain because the only way to know for sure is to upload to the archive (ppa's don't work yet) | 12:48 |
| ricotz | I will add an additional symlink for the icon to usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/*.png | 12:49 |
| seb128 | jibel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization | 12:49 |
| jbicha | ricotz: why do you want to keep the /usr/share/pixmaps/ location? | 12:50 |
| ricotz | not sure, could something still relying on them? | 12:51 |
| ricotz | (considering 14.04 and later) | 12:51 |
| jbicha | I'll let you decide, but stuff shouldn't be hard-coding the full icon path :| | 12:55 |
| ricotz | I will move it to the mentioned location | 12:57 |
| ricotz | should be in the next trunk upload and 60.0 beta 3 | 12:58 |
| jibel | didrocks, did you try a preseeded installation? | 12:58 |
| jibel | (re your MP) | 12:58 |
| didrocks | jibel: I guess that's the debconf UI, which I didn't | 12:59 |
| didrocks | I did the "automatic" which is asking less questions and taking the default preseeded answers | 12:59 |
| jibel | didrocks, isn't it "noninteractive"? | 13:00 |
| jibel | nvm, I'll try | 13:00 |
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| didrocks | jibel: yeah, the definition is a little bit puzzling. Testing all the other cases were quite time-consuming. If you can give a try on the preseeded one, I will appreciate | 13:01 |
| jibel | didrocks, yes, don't worry, I'll do it | 13:01 |
| jbicha | ricotz: oh I read the calendar wrong. Do you think there's time for it to make FF 59 too? | 13:02 |
| jibel | didrocks, is there a card on the board? | 13:02 |
| ricotz | jbicha, oh, not sure how far chris is with 59 | 13:02 |
| jibel | found it | 13:03 |
| didrocks | jibel: https://trello.com/c/QBufNYWO/174-add-a-send-data-to-help-improve-ubuntu-option-to-the-installer-and-to-settings | 13:03 |
| didrocks | jibel: feel free to edit, the current goal has changed a lot with the first login prompt, so not matching what is written there (not updated) | 13:03 |
| ricotz | jbicha, chrisccoulson, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/revision/2185 | 13:07 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1754655 - fixed in bionic | 13:08 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1754655 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Bionic) "Installing snap from command line confuses GNOME Software" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell, thx | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, how does it decide to use emojione or noto? | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, do you know? | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, i've rebuilt the platform snap without emojione and it breaks gnome-characters | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | if i install emojione on my bionic system it starts working | 13:56 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: uh, fontconfig sets the priority. by default on bionic I believe emojione will override noto-color-emoji | 14:00 |
| jbicha | https://cgit.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/tree/conf.d/45-generic.conf | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, it didn't work before i installed emojione :/ | 14:01 |
| jbicha | I don't know much about snap yet | 14:01 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, snaps can now access fonts from the host | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | it wasn't the case when i created these snaps | 14:02 |
| jbicha | but I saw you had emojione in that ppa and not noto-color-emoji. Now that noto-color-emoji is there, maybe you want to remove emojione | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | so the snap bundled fonts, including emojione | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | i rebuilt the snap without emojione | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | and it broke | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | my snap no longer has emojione | 14:03 |
| jbicha | are you sure about snaps being able to use host fonts? | 14:03 |
| jbicha | like Logs shows the wrong font for me ( https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/font-issue-with-bionic-snaps/4330 ) | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | yes | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, i installed the deb of emojione on my bionic laptop | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | and it started working | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | so it's getting the font from my host | 14:04 |
| jbicha | I feel pretty lost here, but maybe you can share your platform-without-emojione with me? | 14:08 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: jbicha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1754671 | 14:14 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1754671 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Full-tunnel VPN DNS leakage regression" [High,Confirmed] | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, it's in the edge channel | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | snap refresh --edge gnome-3-26-1604 | 14:17 |
| jbicha | strange | 14:23 |
| jbicha | I dug around in /snap/gnome-3-26-1604/current/ and things look ok. Do I need to know anything about how apparmor stuff works? | 14:34 |
| jbicha | btw, I guess the Logs fonts issue is Wayland only | 14:34 |
| kenvandine[m][m] | jbicha: I couldn't figure out why it can't find the noto emojis. I even built my snap with the noto emojis and it didn't work. | 17:45 |
| jbicha | kenvandine[m][m]: I don't understand it either :( | 17:45 |
| kenvandine[m][m] | I'll have to look more after I get home | 17:46 |
| jbicha | Laney: I switched gnome-desktop3 to LP git https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+git/gnome-desktop | 21:28 |
| jbicha | we didn't really use bzr for the package: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-desktop/ubuntu | 21:29 |
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