[00:25] <daxm> hello everyone!  I *just* installed Mate on an RPI3.  It is VERY surprisingly quick!  Alas, I have encountered what I would consider a problem.  (I'm probably just doing it wrong though.)  When I use the updater tool I get an error that I don't have enough room in my /boot partition and then updater tool basically closes.
[00:26] <daxm> The /boot partition is only configured to have 64MB of space it appears.  Any way to increase that on the fly or possibly during the installation (I don't mind re-installing at this point).
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[11:54] <Guest1807> what to do after you install ubuntu mate? :D
[13:14] <evg1358> hey :D
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[16:31] <diogenes_> !de | dirk_
[18:27] <onio> HI having problem with my laptop not booting up. I am not getting to the log in screen. I am running Ubuntu mate 16.04
[18:28] <onio> I have clonezilla which I can use to get to a command line
[18:31] <diogenes_> onio, more details? you trying to install? or how it happened after an update?
[18:32] <onio> No I was not installing or updating anything.
[18:32] <diogenes_> ok how long do you have the system for?
[18:33] <onio> diogenes_s:  A few years, but I have not been using lately
[18:33] <diogenes_> when last time you used it?
[18:34] <onio> diogenes_: About 3 days ago
[18:34] <diogenes_> and i booted fine?
[18:34] <diogenes_> it*
[18:36]  * diogenes_ is away
[18:36] <onio> diogenes_: the battery has been playing up for sometimes, and intermintently can take some power on/power off to get it starting
[18:46] <alkisg> onio: what's the last message that you see when it boots?
[18:47] <onio> alkisg: Hi one second I am try to video as it scrolls through the screen very quick
[18:47] <alkisg> What happens at the end? black screen?
[18:47] <alkisg> reboot?
[18:48] <onio> Nothings
[18:48] <alkisg> You don't have a computer at the end?
[18:48] <alkisg> Nothing?
[18:49] <onio> just stays black with a cursor on the top left corner
[18:49] <onio> blinking
[18:49] <alkisg> Ah, black, this is information :)
[18:49] <alkisg> And if you type alt+ctrl+f2 there, do you see a login prompt?
[18:49] <onio> nothing happens I try already
[18:49] <alkisg> OK, what if you reboot and select  "recovery" in grub?
[18:50] <alkisg> Does that give you a menu with various recovery options?
[18:50] <onio> I am not sure how to do that as I don't get to the grub screen
[18:50] <alkisg> Hold down left shift while it boots to see grub
[18:51] <onio> okay give it a try one second
[18:53] <onio> alkisg: no grub screen, The speaker beeped a high pitch sound and the kernel boot message scrolled on the screen and returned to the black screen with cursor on top left
[18:54] <alkisg> How much ram does your computer have?
[18:54] <onio> 8GB
[18:55] <alkisg> OK that's enough to test the installation in a vm...
[18:55] <alkisg> but gotta go now, be back in 30'
[18:55] <onio> last to kernel boot messages as follows:
[18:55] <onio> Show Plymouth Boot Screen
[18:55] <onio> QEMU KVM module loading scripts
[18:59] <alkisg> if you want, boot from the mate live cd to test the hdinstallation with kvm
[19:00] <onio> I have to go download that. I only have access to clonezilla for now
[19:10] <alkisg> does it allow you to run kvm -m 1024 /dev/sda ?
[19:11] <onio> alkisg: not sure. I have not tried it
[19:24] <onio> there is a /usr/bin/kvm on the system but when I try to run "kvm -m 1024 /dev/sda" I get No such file or directory
[19:24] <alkisg> Is your disk sda?
[19:24] <onio> ys
[19:24] <onio> yes
[19:25] <alkisg> Anyway here's some info on how to get the grub menu https://askubuntu.com/questions/668049/grub-menu-at-boot-time-holding-shift-not-working
[19:25] <onio> I can mount the sda1 partition where I have my linux system
[19:25] <alkisg> You can also do the steps from the clonezilla cd if shift and esc don't work
[19:26] <onio> with clonezilla I can get to the command prompt and then mount my linux partition  sda1
[19:28] <onio> alkisg: it looks like the example in the link is assuming that one as a running system where they can change grub file and then do update-grub
[19:29] <onio> I can probably change the grub file by booting with clonezilla and editing the file but I am not sure if that would help
[19:47] <alkisg> onio: is clonezilla ubuntu-based?
[19:47] <alkisg> Ah it's either debian or ubuntu, it's fine
[19:47] <onio> it might be because I can issue command like "sudo su" to get root access
[19:49] <alkisg> does this return anything ? egrep -i '^flags.*(svm|vmx)' /proc/cpuinfo
[19:49] <onio> It does not get to the place where is loads /proc this is psuedo directory
[19:50] <alkisg> I mean from the live cd
[19:50] <alkisg> This will show if your pc supports kvm
[19:51] <onio> I finished downloading the live cd but can't find cd to burn to
[20:05] <alkisg> You can run that command on the clonezilla live cd as well
[20:22] <onio> alkisg: I have been able to get ubuntu mate 16.04 on cd and used it to boot the system
[20:23] <alkisg> onio: cool. I need to live in a few minutes, but I can help you with vnc if you like, it's a way to share your screen like with teamviewer. Do you want me to?
[20:23] <alkisg> *leave
[20:24] <onio> sure
[20:26] <alkisg> ok run this, sudo -i; apt update; apt --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[20:26] <alkisg> Press enter instead of ;
[20:27] <onio> would this be on the faulty machine?
[20:27] <alkisg> Yes, while booted from a live cd
[20:28] <onio> okay
[20:31] <onio> sorry, I misread your post. so it ";" should be <CR> right
[20:31] <alkisg> yes
[20:32] <alkisg> i.e. 4 commands, 4 lines
[20:32] <onio> I was typing everything as written
[20:32] <onio> silly me
[20:36] <onio> all done
[20:36] <alkisg> I didn't receive the connection, do you see any errors?
[20:37] <alkisg> x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[20:37] <danny__> hello my friends
[20:37] <onio> ***unrecognized options(s) ***
[20:37] <onio> [1] connect
[20:37] <onio> [2] srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[20:37] <alkisg> Hello
[20:37] <alkisg> onio, you missed the -
[20:37] <alkisg> It's -connect
[20:38] <danny__> what is for supper
[20:38] <onio> oh men super cool :)
[20:39] <danny__> gotta go, bye.
[20:42] <alkisg> onio: you rebooted while apt was installing
[20:42] <alkisg> Either you were running apt, or unattended upgrades
[20:42] <alkisg> I think it'll be ok after the updates...
[20:43] <onio> ah
[20:43] <alkisg> See how fast vnc is, compared to irc :D
[20:43] <onio> please teach me how to learn this stuff man
[20:44] <onio> how did the vnc connect to you?
[20:44] <alkisg> I have a vnc server listening for incoming connections, to help schools
[20:44] <alkisg> Google for "reverse connect vnc" to read the theory
[20:45] <onio> Thanks man. I am fully amazed by this. I am new to all this
[20:45] <onio> whao "you are the man"
[20:46] <gerge> Hi, a weird bug with Tilda with 18.04. While it is listed in "Startup Applications", it does not start.
[20:46] <gerge> I need to manually launch it every season.
[20:47] <gerge> All other apps in Startup works as they should, only Tilda.
[20:47] <alkisg> gerge: do you have ~/.config/autostart/tilda.desktop?
[20:47] <onio> alkisg: Does this mean that people don't really need to use teamviewer for remote desktop connection
[20:48] <gerge> yes
[20:48] <alkisg> onio: my side needs an external ip + port forwarding; other than that yeah I don't need  teamviewer
[20:48] <alkisg> gerge: can you pastebin it?
[20:49] <gerge> https://hastebin.com/gepobujevi.ini
[20:49] <gerge> Pastebin is banned in Turkey since it hosts some provate emails of government officials
[20:49] <gerge> weird, yeah
[20:49] <alkisg> Hehe... greetings from Greece
[20:50] <gerge> Everything about Tilda is as it should be, there is no logs or anything.
[20:50] <alkisg> What's the output of `gsettings list-recursively | grep tilda | nc termbin.com 9999`
[20:50] <gerge> It just doesn't start, system ignores it completely.
[20:50] <gerge> empty
[20:51] <gerge> this is a clean install by the way
[20:51] <gerge> did minimal install
[20:51]  * alkisg is always removing tilda so can't check locally...
[20:53] <alkisg> onio: it should boot now
[20:53] <alkisg> Reboot, and then you can continue the update from there
[20:53] <onio> okay thanks
[20:53] <alkisg> np
[20:55] <onio> alkisg: in a nutshell is it possible to summarise what you did should I get this problem in the future. So I don't have to disturb you guys about the same issue
[20:59] <alkisg> onio: i booted your disk in a virtual machine, pressed esc to get to grub, got a root shell in the emergency console, and finished the dpkg --configure -a which was cut in half
[21:00] <alkisg> It's still not finished, as some programs didn't like the recovery console, but it should boot now, and you should be able to continue it normally
[21:00] <onio> I would save this log like my life depends on it :)
[21:01] <onio> the booting of the machine in the virtual machine is that what you were using the kvm for?
[21:02] <alkisg> yes
[21:04] <onio> I was surprised that one can install stuff on the machine when booting with live cd. I thought you had to install the operating system before installing other stuff. Just to mention the pc has reboot and it looks like it is back to normal
[21:05] <alkisg> Cool. Good night from me, and remember to finish the apt updating
[21:06] <onio> okay would do. Thank you for your time.
[21:08] <sk1mm1lk> me too
[21:36] <yuqi> hi =)
[22:37] <FortNhyver> buonasera, salve a Tutti ho un problemaall'avvio di mate (nel grub) ho il monitore che sfarfalla, poi tutto ok. da che Dipende
[22:40] <FortNhyver> scusate scrivo male il global warming
[22:40] <FortNhyver> :)
[22:42] <vlt> FortNhyver: Salve! Di solito si parla in inglese qui.
[22:42] <FortNhyver> ah pardon
[22:45] <FortNhyver> goodevening, i have a problem: the monitor in grub flicker (to the start) then all ok, how to resolve this problem?
[22:47] <FortNhyver> ok, goodbye