[02:11] so what am I doing wrong https://apaste.info/8x5P [02:28] donofrio: something is messed up with your gpg config [02:57] nacc, how to heal it? [06:05] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver-beta-released-for-opt-in-flavors-download-now-520153.shtml [07:12] anyone here for internet problems? [07:20] Peace-: well, if you don't state your problem you'll never find out. [07:23] SwedeMike: well i have a strange behavior here , i can't connect to internet with the network manager cuz it doesn't list my wifi i just investigated on the problem adn i get these errors : [07:23] systemctl status wpa_supplicant.service [07:24] Failed to initialize control interface '/run/wpa_supplicant'. You may have another wpa_supplicant p rocess already running or the file was left by an unclean termination of wpa_supplicant in which case you will need to manually remove this file before starting wpa_supplicant again. [07:24] sudo systemctl status NetworkManager.service [07:24] error> sup-iface[0x56547f32d5b0,wlp7s0]: error adding interface: wpa_supplicant couldn't grab this interface. [07:25] iwconfig recognize my atheros wifi card and it lists properly the wifi nets [07:25] so the drivers is working fine [07:26] to get it on internet i have to do : sudo pkill wpa_supplicant ; sudo systemctl start wpa_supplicant.service sudo systemctl start NetworkManager.service [07:26] btw i havet to do that everytime at the start it's quite boring i did a script but i mean it's not the normal way ... [07:30] the script it's this sudo pkill wpa_supplicant ; sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager.service ; sudo systemctl start NetworkManager.service [07:43] hi [07:43] can someone help me? [08:01] Boyette: ABOUYT WHAT [08:01] sorry caps [08:02] cant run vlc [08:02] it wont start [08:02] it only syas [08:02] says [08:02] VLC media player 4.0.0-dev Otto Chriek (revision 4.0.0~rc1~~git20180309+r74746+128~ubuntu18.04.1) [08:02] thats it [08:22] Boyette: WAUT A MOIMENT [08:23] im waiting [08:24] Boyette: start vlc from terminal vlc --ignore-config [08:24] with that command line [08:24] ok j [08:24] if doesn't start that mean it's a bug somewhere somehow [08:24] if starts you got the answer [08:24] same result [08:25] j@HQ:~$ vlc --ignore-config [08:25] VLC media player 4.0.0-dev Otto Chriek (revision 4.0.0~rc1~~git20180309+r74746+128~ubuntu18.04.1) [08:25] j@HQ:~$ [08:25] VERY bad bug [08:25] you have to ask to #vlc could be a video driver vlc incopatible stuff [08:25] or something like that [08:25] it worked until yesterday.. after some update i think this happened [08:26] could be and upgrade on vlc version that has that bug ... [08:26] or maybe some libraries that are not fully upgraded [08:26] have tried to sudo apt-get upgrade? if you are on 18.04 of course [08:27] yes [08:27] all up to date [08:27] Boyette: but ou have a 4 version btw [08:27] 4 version? [08:27] on 18.04 i have 3.0 which is workin fine [08:28] Boyette: i ahve this vlc --version VLC media player 3.0.0 Vetinari (revision 3.0.0-30-gef4c265336) [08:29] Boyette: https://i.imgur.com/oZo3Odn.jpg [08:32] Boyette: remove the videolan daily build repository form your sources.list remove vlc and reinstall it [08:33] infact yhe version of yours it's what you can find here https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily [08:35] yes [08:36] or it will fix itself? [08:38] well you have to wait untill the next release on videolan daily but if you want use vlc today you have to do what i said [08:39] ok can u guide me how to delete [08:39] for me vlc is workin fine even without the daily repo [08:39] which is unstable [08:40] Boyette: you ahve to open this file /etc/apt/sources.lis and put one # before the line that contains videolan [08:40] ok [08:40] of course being root ... [08:41] then sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get purge vlc ; sudo apt-get install vlc [08:45] btw Boyette the file is /etc/apt/sources.list [08:46] I prefer to use ppa-purge which does all that and downgrades packages to default that a ppa changes [08:47] flocculant: nice point of view [08:47] i ma not so used to ppa anymore on kubuntu i work fine just with repo-standards [08:48] videolan is not in there [08:49] Boyette: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge [08:50] done [08:52] then? [08:52] Boyette: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [08:56] thats a directory [08:56] Boyette: right there is something called vlc ? [08:56] inside [08:57] Boyette: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | grep -i vlc [08:57] Boyette: btw sudo ppa-purge -o videolan if the repo you added it's that [08:58] if you added another repo you must get the correct name seeing on that folder [08:58] now i smoke a cigarette :D [08:58] Peace-: good call :p [08:59] /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-mate-dev-ubuntu-welcome-bionic.list.save [08:59] /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-mate-dev-ubuntu-welcome-bionic.list [08:59] sory [08:59] /etc/apt/sources.list.d/videolan-ubuntu-master-daily-bionic.list [08:59] /etc/apt/sources.list.d/videolan-ubuntu-master-daily-bionic.list.save [08:59] huh [08:59] yes that [09:00] Boyette: I think you can tab complete in ppa-purge so sudo ppa-purge ppa:vid see what that gives you [09:01] what do u mean by [09:01] press the tab key ... [09:01] are you sure you should be using a development version of *buntu? [09:02] lol [09:02] yes because i learn these things now [09:02] i would never discover otherwise [09:02] :) [09:02] this helps me to learn linux believe me :P [09:02] he he he [09:03] https://pastebin.com/f2bq5sh0 [09:04] Boyette: YOU HAVE A MESS ON REPOS [09:04] great [09:04] hahaha dudeeee [09:04] how do we fix it [09:04] :P [09:04] Boyette: you have a bad behavior to add weird ppa [09:05] like webupd8 [09:05] they are not official so it's not strange to get a crappys system [09:06] i use kubuntu so i can remove ppas with the package manager i guessubuntu has one too [09:06] for sure i needed it for something [09:06] but i dont remember why [09:06] Boyette: open the package manager [09:06] Boyette: and go on settings [09:08] Boyette: here how it is on kubuntu i guess you have another one btw https://i.imgur.com/A6gHcNT.jpg [09:09] i think there is none yet [09:10] remove even those ppas that give you erros [09:11] so xbmc ubuntu-mate-dev miro-releases nilarimogard [09:11] then update , remove vlc , reinstall vlc [09:12] after removing the vlc repo :D [09:12] of course i hope :D [09:12] i have deleted every aspect of ubuntu i justuse kubuntu since 10 years i guess [09:13] xD i don't remember the package manager name of ubuntu [09:13] removed and reinstalled vlc [09:13] same result [09:13] Boyette: because you have the version 4.0 [09:13] Boyette: vlc --version what does it say? [09:14] https://pastebin.com/wyt4Q2EK [09:14] Boyette: so 4.0 is still there ... [09:14] yes it keeps coming back [09:14] Boyette: basically you have the repo [09:15] Boyette: can you do a screen shot of this folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [09:15] yes [09:16] Boyette: basically you have to put all the files you got there in another folder like your home so that folder then it's empty [09:16] https://prnt.sc/ip8ffb [09:16] Boyette: so take ALL THAT crap files and put them on another folder [09:17] Boyette: like $HOME/oldcrapppas [09:17] THEN remove reinstall vlc [09:18] ok [09:18] Boyette: now that folder it's empty ? [09:18] not allowed to cut [09:18] xD [09:19] Boyette: of course you have to be root [09:19] hehe [09:19] just a moment [09:20] sudo rm /etc/apt/source.list.d/videolan-ubuntu-master-daily-bionic.list [09:20] coudl be typos on that line [09:20] and sudo rm /etc/apt/source.list.d/videolan-ubuntu-master-daily-bionic.list.save [09:20] LOL [09:21] OMG i hope he doesnt' connect like root now xD [09:22] back [09:23] so have you removed those files? [09:23] yes [09:23] done [09:23] sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get purge vlc ; sudo apt-get install vlc [09:24] then vlc --version [09:24] should be 3.0 now [09:24] so the folder is empty now [09:25] i hope so :D [09:25] Boyette: if yes do that : sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get purge vlc ; sudo apt-get install vlc [09:25] now [09:25] i cant install vlc [09:25] hahahah why what it says [09:26] Boyette: you made a mess with repos ... [09:26] just that [09:26] https://pastebin.com/V5486CY9 [09:27] Boyette: sudo apt-get purge vlc [09:28] what did it say [09:28] its not installed offcourse [09:28] not installed so not removed [09:28] offcourse it told me many more [09:29] Boyette: inthat folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ there is no files? [09:29] empty [09:29] Boyette: screenshot [09:30] https://prnt.sc/ip8iy2 [09:30] this is why I use ppa-purge :D [09:30] Boyette: paste even this files [09:30] Boyette: try this [09:30] flocculant: did not worked with ppa-purge [09:30] flocculant: we tried with tat before [09:30] because other ppa's were knackered [09:31] Boyette: paste even the contents of /etc/apt/source.list [09:31] re-add the videolan ppa, update, install vlc, ppa-purge the videolan ppa [09:31] Boyette: i mean the file [09:32] https://pastebin.com/CFiPgGLY [09:33] ok the main repo file seems quite fine [09:34] mmm this is strange [09:35] it should install the 3 version instead of the 4 so there sould be another file of videolan that does that error [09:35] ill give u full output [09:36] https://pastebin.com/nUpfLyBf [09:36] so flocculant is saying [09:36] to use ppa-purge [09:37] maybe we need to still do that? [09:37] try that [09:37] Boyette: could be fine [09:37] what I'm saying is add the ppa again first [09:38] Boyette: that it shoulkd not required btw [09:38] we have removed all the crap repos so it should just install the old version of vlc [09:38] * flocculant wanders off now - good luck Boyette ;) [09:38] but it doesnt [09:38] its still trying to install v4 [09:38] i suspect that there are other ppas [09:39] how to find out? [09:39] Boyette: try what said from flocculant [09:39] paste the current error please [09:40] https://pastebin.com/nUpfLyBf [09:40] well the sources.d is not containing it now so how to remove what is not there [09:41] acheronuk: has removed all ppas from /etc/apt/source.list.d [09:42] acheronuk: but when he try to install it says still 4.0 so there should be another file somewhere on etc/apt/sources.list there are no videoolan repo so :S [09:42] not seen the sources.list at all yet [09:43] Boyette: can we see output of: dpkg --list | grep vlc [09:43] yes sir [09:43] https://pastebin.com/s3jACBFn [09:44] interesting [09:44] it just read form the ppa repo.. [09:44] so ... [09:44] Boyette: so you still have 4.0.0 there [09:44] its removed [09:44] xD [09:44] clean the cache i guess acheronuk? [09:45] how to proceed? [09:45] Boyette: dpkg doesn't agree with you at the moment [09:45] how to let dpkg agree? [09:45] sudo apt-get clean Boyette [09:46] now dpkg --list | grep vlc what does it say [09:47] ah doesnt matter [09:47] Boyette: you have vlc still installed [09:47] still the same [09:47] Boyette: sudo apt-get remove vlc [09:47] * acheronuk composes an apt line [09:47] huh [09:47] yes its installed again [09:47] but i removed it before [09:48] Boyette: after remove dpkg --list | grep vlc [09:48] if i type [09:48] vlc [09:48] i get vlc [09:48] it's a simple prolbem [09:48] but if i type purge vlc its saying its not installed [09:48] so its there but its not there [09:48] xD you have a mess system i guess [09:49] gimme a minute or 2. then we'll try something [09:49] I'd just wait a minute now and think [09:49] heh [09:50] Boyette: sudo dpkg -r vlc [09:50] https://pastebin.com/Qbm2eUfh [09:50] dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove vlc which isn't installed [09:50] but you have vlc [09:50] Boyette: from the previous list you can see that vlc isn't installed - but all the dependencies you had still are [09:50] Boyette: run this : type vlc [09:51] that is what the issue is currently [09:51] check my latest pastebin [09:51] flocculant: uh xD [09:51] so we need to remove the dependancies ? [09:51] Boyette: yes [09:52] Boyette: just wait for acheronuk [09:52] ok [09:52] dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove vlc which isn't installed [09:52] sounds funny [09:52] btw sudo apt-get remove vlc* should work [09:52] lots were removed now [09:52] btw sudo apt-get remove vlc* libvlc* should work [09:53] now its really removed [09:53] vlc command unkown [09:53] even the libvlc ? [09:54] latest command also removed libvlc still [09:54] so now you can install again vlc xD [09:54] i think vlc 3 is coming now [09:54] finally :D [09:54] yes [09:54] done [09:54] and it runs [09:55] it worked out guys [09:55] Boyette: btw YOU HAVE A BAD BEHAVIOR [09:55] DO NOT USE PPA if you are not able to manage them well [09:55] now i learned .. IF dependencies are higher then actual version [09:55] it will match version to dependencies [09:55] interesting right :P [09:55] not the other way around [09:56] peace what is PPA :P :P :P [09:56] Boyette: well it's quite simple ppa are stored on that folder you now know [09:56] Boyette: install with a ppa, remove with ppa-purge - works everytime for me [09:56] ok [09:56] flocculant: well in theory removing vlc it should remove even dependecens with purge [09:57] if it did not the job the package is not well packaged [09:57] no it won't [09:57] mmm with purge? [09:57] this vlc 4 is buggy too much [09:57] purging a package purges it - you then have to apt autoremove to get rid of dependencies [09:57] told the developers but they dont listen to me [09:57] with remove you right but with purge it should [09:58] nope [09:58] flocculant: bad memory of mine then :D [09:58] they keep closing my tickets and tell me its not reproducable [09:58] apt-get install libvlc-bin=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 libvlc5=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 libvlccore9=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-bin=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-data=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-l10n=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-base=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-notify=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-qt=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-samba=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-skins2=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-video-output=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-video-splitter=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 vlc-plugin-visualization=3.0.1-2ubuntu1 [09:58] purge removes package and IT'S conf files [09:58] try that. may or may not work [09:58] acheronuk: so basd you write down that line LOL [09:59] basd? [10:00] flocculant: so purge autoremove [10:00] mmm [10:00] thx a lot guys [10:00] but ppa-purge does all the work for you ;) [10:00] it does. [10:01] :) [10:01] which is manually what my apt line is doing :P [10:01] or would have [10:01] acheronuk: yup :) [10:02] acheronuk: poor guy so much work you did :( [10:02] Boyette: so in summary - don't randomly add ppa's, if you do ppa-purge is your friend [10:02] i was trying to do purge infact on vlc package [10:02] anyway - off to the market goes me [10:03] and it leaves still those libraries [10:03] Peace-: not that much. mostly some sed and find/replace in a text editor [10:03] flocculant: bb [10:03] acheronuk: sed :D awk love stuff [10:04] Peace- Boyette for the record - I know for sure that ppa-purge worked to do it as I installed the crap vlc and purged it all ;) [10:04] took about 3 minutes [10:04] flocculant: :D i am bored of ppa xD i used this sytem for 2 years without update :D [10:05] now there are not update anymore so installed 18.04 and it did not boot [10:05] xD [10:05] well [10:05] I'm in the xubuntu team - I use our officialish ppa's all the time [10:05] was a very silly problem with uuid and fstab [10:05] sometimes there is no release version for my ubuntu version [10:05] so i have to add ppa manualy [10:05] installed the miniso then kubuntu-desktop [10:05] otherwise i cant install at all [10:05] or missing dependencies [10:05] many trouble u know [10:06] Boyette: nah you just add many ppas [10:06] really [10:06] with are not update [10:06] for 18.04 i guess [10:06] and vlc daily well it works most of time [10:06] do u guys have a usenet client i can use for ubuntu [10:06] im also having troubles finding that [10:07] Boyette: I assume you mean that you try to get the newest version of something that's not in the repos - that's the way it works [10:07] most release versions are not working on ubuntu 18.04 so i have to be creative thats what i mean [10:08] sometimes dependencies have higher version .. release packages dont like that [10:08] most not working on 18.04? [10:08] yes [10:08] if that's the case I assume you've reported bugs then [10:08] Boyette: you are not creative , you are breaking ubuntu xD [10:09] hehe [10:09] Boyette: got an example of something not working? [10:09] that's normal first years on ubuntu [10:09] usenet client for example [10:09] Boyette: on kde we use knode for that if it's correct what i understood [10:09] i mean usenet [10:10] i was trying to install spotlite [10:11] Error: Dependency is not satisfable: libssl0.9.8 [10:11] neither usenet nor spotlite are in the repo's [10:12] i just try to install from .deb [10:12] Boyette: so I assume what you're doing is finding random things on the internet and trying to get them to work? [10:12] thats not random [10:12] offcourse i know the application [10:12] flocculant: xD [10:13] Boyette: you can't install deb from internet like windows dude... [10:13] there are repos. [10:13] it's not safe [10:13] Boyette: yes - but you're having to download packages from some place on the net - then trying to make it work [10:13] ok how to find repo for spotlite [10:13] and you can break your ubuntu [10:13] Boyette: age? [10:13] because i have difficulties finding repos [10:13] 30+ [10:13] wtf dude you are man ;D [10:14] ok. official website for this app? [10:14] Boyette: repos .... contains every dependeces you need to install the pacckage so [10:14] Boyette: yup - I understand that - perhaps you should be trying to find apps that ARE supported which do the same job [10:15] Boyette: if you try to install a single package it wont install untill you don't install every dependeces [10:15] flocculant: btw there is snap package now that i have not investigated [10:16] * flocculant doesn't snap [10:16] flocculant: which shouild be like somehow a packaged that contains every dependences [10:16] yea I believe that's the idea [10:16] i used to install spotify [10:17] spotify is windows i think [10:17] spotlite is ubuntu [10:17] Boyette: what actually is spotlite? [10:17] Boyette: no you can install on linux there is a snap pacakge [10:17] how to find [10:18] Boyette: oyu have not to find , SPOTIFY that is a music player btw can be installed with this : snap install spotify [10:19] i dont need spotify music player [10:19] Boyette: please give us a link to spotlite's official website [10:19] xD [10:19] i need spotlite usenet client to search on server and cache it [10:19] is it https://sites.google.com/site/ubuntulinuxgebruiker/spotlite [10:19] http://www.spot-net.nl/spotlite [10:20] http://www.spot-net.nl.vfcdn.net/downloads/spotlite/SpotLite%28v2%29Ubuntu.zip [10:21] MMM NOT UPGRADE PROJECT? [10:21] changelog shows last work in 2011 - you shouldn't be using that - looks dead to me [10:21] anyway - I'm off now [10:21] Ubuntu Linux - Maverick: [10:21] Boyette: if you're looking for a usenet client, try pan [10:21] so ultra ULTRA ULTRA OLD [10:22] Boyette: it's in the repos, so supported [10:23] well its dead [10:23] but the only thing i can find [10:24] usenet is also still usenet nothing different in that aswell [10:24] irc is also not having any new clients [10:25] you can also use thunderbird, it supports nntp [10:25] knode it's for kde btw [10:25]