[09:39] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:43] <brobostigon> o/
[11:06] <HeartsOnPhlearn> So ebay s dot UK, right ?
[11:06] <HeartsOnPhlearn> http://archive.fo/d4m6a
[18:02] <daftykins> hmm a clients bank actually had them uninstall current Firefox and install an ESR version so they could keep using the banking service
[18:03] <daftykins> pretty damaging advice imo
[18:41] <penguin42> it's probably all they tested with
[18:44] <daftykins> oddly i can't even find any claim of 58 having trouble online
[18:54] <penguin42> what was the failure?  I'd had at least one bank that ran into cert issues from a symantec cert
[18:55] <daftykins> i was over for other reasons today, it was presented just in anecdotal form of "you updated Firefox and it no longer worked!" ... "blah blah, the bank had us install another" which ended up being an ESR
[18:55] <penguin42> nod
[18:55] <daftykins> the guy's 70 so i figured it futile to push for detail :D
[18:56] <penguin42> it's impressive they managed talking him through installing ESR
[18:56] <daftykins> i saw some weird USB card reader plugged in with some Barclays card plugged into it
[18:56] <daftykins> heh yeah i bet that was fun
[18:56] <penguin42> ah that's interesting, I've never had a chance to play with those
[18:56] <daftykins> their browser wasn't up to date before, because someone had installed windows onto a 60GB partition atop a 2009 iMac
[18:57] <daftykins> :D
[18:59] <daftykins> come to think of it they mentioned this person had them allow remote access
[19:00] <penguin42> in that case, I hate to think
[19:00] <daftykins> and i saw some really weird third party credential managing software that seemed capable of reading that card...
[19:00] <penguin42> I've heard of those cards before and I think standard Firefox has a plugin thing for it
[19:01] <daftykins> in fact the more i think about it, i wonder who phoned who to begin with
[19:01] <penguin42> you thinking it was a 'Hello, this is your bank, I see you're having problems accessing your account....'
[19:01] <daftykins> :D yeah
[19:01] <daftykins> mmm so ESR was probably needed to hang onto the old plugin format
[19:03] <penguin42> or perhaps that's the only version the guys who phoned had a hacked version of....
[19:09] <daftykins> i think i'll be visiting Barclays on Monday :)
[19:11] <daftykins> i'll be wiping it soon enough, i was exploring upgrades today - https://i.imgur.com/FzXdGHN.jpg
[19:11] <daftykins> lovely dust
[19:21] <daftykins> ok someone on the phone at Barclays fraud has no idea why someone'd ask for this, although he didn't seem to even understand the distinction between a browser and anti-malware software, so there y'go :)
[19:32] <penguin42> on a side note, did anyone see a power blip on Monday evening, a little after 7pm - it was enough here to knock one of our older digital clocks out and for me to see a flourescent light go fully out; I'm thinking it was interestingly close in time to the teeside substation going pop but I think it was slightly later
[19:36] <daftykins> just watched a video of that, cor
[19:49] <ali1234> you guys seen "mans crashed his beamer"?
[19:49] <daftykins> nope?
[19:50] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E46FVuYHkZg
[19:55] <daftykins> hrmm
[19:56] <daftykins> amazed there are folk who talk like that :P
[19:57] <ali1234> have you ever watched phoneshop?
[19:58] <daftykins> is that on broadcast?
[19:59] <ali1234> C4
[19:59] <daftykins> ah, yeah i don't tend to watch any broadcast
[20:03] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ZYmoKD2nI
[20:10] <daftykins> yeeeeeeah that's not for me :D
[20:15] <Whoosh2u18> https://imgur.com/IdHG6Ho
[20:16] <daftykins> this is happening quite a bit now ^
[20:27] <daftykins> \o
[20:28] <TJ-> o/