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ochosianyway, really off now ->00:00
bluesabrehave a good night ochosi00:00
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-indicator-plugin 2.3.4 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-indicator-plugin-2-3-4-released-tp50777.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)00:11
donofrioso what am I doing wrong https://apaste.info/8x5P00:59
donofrioany "service" needed for repo adds?00:59
Unit193donofrio: I'd say 'dirmngr' is missing, right?01:01
donofrioversion 2.2.4 is already installed01:04
donofrio-1ubuntu101:04
donofrionow I get this https://apaste.info/dl9H01:08
Unit193Odd.  Well you could just get the key and add it in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/01:13
donofriowhere would the gpg file be , the path is not there once you run the add-apt01:59
donofriodirmngt_ldapservers.conf is missing ;(02:00
Used2BTracker5runnuing 18.04; installed dropbox. The icon shows up in the top bar (unlike in 16.04). But when i click with my mouse on the dropbox icon no menu is opened (I expect a menu with "open dropbox folder" etc). Is that by design or should I report that as an issue? And would that then be a dropbox issue or an issue in the status notifier?08:26
flocculantUsed2BTracker5: it's not by design - but it's also not a Xubuntu issue - there were ways to get the icon working that I used a while back. try https://askubuntu.com/questions/732967/how-to-fix-non-working-dropbox-icon-on-xubuntu-14-04-lts-6408:42
flocculantali1234: thanks - I got sidetracked yesterday when I got back - totally forgot about the blueman thing08:44
flocculantbluesabre: did you see the last bit from ali yesterday?08:44
Unit193Used2BTracker5: Do you use thunar-dropbox-plugin too?  I personally patched /usr/bin/dropbox, one can patch it to get the indicator fully working or just fully switch to a tray icon.09:24
ochosibluesabre: we should set the new "square" option in indicator, sn-plugin and systray09:56
Used2BTracker5flocculant, thanks, will have a look10:36
Used2BTracker5flocculant, BTW, it's not the problem " black with a red slashed zero" as described on the site you kindly pointed me to. The right dropbox icon is showing, with the right animation when syncing; and when i hover over it it tells me what it is doing. But the only thing is, that when I click on it it does not open the dropboxmenu. So, would you advice me that this is still the same problem ?10:40
flocculantUsed2BTracker5: not sure tbh - not something I use11:14
Used2BTracker5ok. will look into it more.11:14
flocculant:)11:14
Used2BTracker5just experienced a crash of bluetooth. When I chose to report the problem, the error report functionality told me the error was already reported, and that the browser would be opened so that I could add extra information. The browser opened, but then showed "Error: page not found".11:15
Used2BTracker5https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154282911:15
ubottuError: launchpad bug 1542829 not found11:15
Used2BTracker5Any advice on what to do?11:16
Used2BTracker5ubottu, indeed11:16
bluesabreochosi: systray has that option?11:18
flocculantUsed2BTracker5: that generally meens that the bug is a Private one - only the reporter and bug squad people can see it11:25
flocculanthi bluesabre 11:25
bluesabrehey flocculant 11:25
bluesabresaw the conversation with ali, blueman is to blame then?11:26
flocculantbluesabre: looks like 11:26
flocculantdon't know the best way to test it other than with a hammer - have an iso without and see what happens then :D11:26
bluesabredid we create a bug report with the info we found? I might be able to dig in this weekend, fixed blueman once before11:28
flocculantdidn't do a report as had no idea what to report against11:28
flocculantI can from the vanilla install - probably best - then if it goes private I'll change it 11:29
* flocculant toddles off to do that now while I think about it :p11:29
flocculantbrb11:29
Used2BTracker5flocculant, I didn't know about "private" errors, so I was confused... 11:30
bluesabrethanks flocculant 11:33
bluesabreUsed2BTracker5: yes, if the bug reported may contain sensitive information or exposes a security risk, it gets marked as private unless the reporter marks it as not or somebody in the bugs team marks it as not11:33
flocculantbluesabre: bug 175483611:37
ubottubug 1754836 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Failed to activate service " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175483611:37
flocculantjust going to try and get xsession errors from live session11:37
flocculantbluesabre: live doesn't seem to show the same thing for bluez - but added anyway11:43
bluesabrethanks flocculant 11:44
bluesabreochosi: ind looks good, packaged and tested, time to upload :)11:44
flocculantbluesabre: np11:44
flocculantI perhaps should have been a lot noiser about this 3 months ago lol11:45
bluesabre:D11:45
bluesabreflocculant: something else would have broken with it in that time11:45
flocculantha ha ha 11:45
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/2.3.4-0ubuntu111:46
flocculantbluesabre: I assume you caught all the new people on tracker - and now have met the new person in here :)11:49
bluesabreflocculant: indeed, seen some new nicks11:49
bluesabrevery nice :)11:49
flocculantyup :)11:56
bluesabretested and packaged this too, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/1.6.14-1ubuntu112:17
flocculantawesome 12:18
ochosibluesabre: at least in 4.13 it has it. not sure whether we backported it (could ask ninetls to look into it ;))12:44
bluesabreochosi: seems not, at least with the current stable 4.12.x12:45
ninetlsochosi: only 4.13 has it, we haven't backported it12:45
ochosibluesabre: not sure we want another FFe for that12:45
bluesabreI consider that more UI than feature12:46
ochosibluesabre: true that. so depends if anyone (ninetls?) feels like backporting13:00
ochosishould be doable though13:01
ochosiquestion is whether theres anything else panel-wise we want13:01
flocculantochosi: re panel - next cycle I will revisit the 'flocculant to look at panel changes'13:03
bluesabreknome, slickymaster, Unit193... is this an issue?13:06
bluesabrewarning: failed to load external entity "C/translator-credits.xml"13:06
bluesabrewarning: failed to load external entity "C/translators.xml"13:06
bluesabreother than that, docs are ready to upload13:08
ochosiflocculant: cool, i think next cycle we shpuld target the 4.13 panrl13:13
ochosicrap. phone.13:13
flocculant:D13:13
flocculantI assume you mean 4.13 panel abnd not 4.13 phone13:13
flocculantcrap. fat fingers.13:14
bluesabrepretty sure he's talbfing about the 3.14 phone13:14
flocculantlmao13:14
* flocculant is trying to get photo's from daughter's iphone :(13:15
flocculantnext time perhaps she'll listen and not do the whole iHype thing13:15
ochosithanks for all the typos :D13:17
flocculant:p13:18
knomebluesabre, is what an issue?13:27
bluesabreknome: when building the docs, I see13:28
bluesabrewarning: failed to load external entity "C/translator-credits.xml"13:28
bluesabrewarning: failed to load external entity "C/translators.xml"13:28
bluesabrealso this, but that doesn't sound like a significant issue13:29
bluesabre[WARN] FOUserAgent - The contents of fo:region-before on page 46 exceed the available area in the block-progression direction by 1450 millipoints. (See position 2:583354)13:29
knomebluesabre, i think that's always happened13:44
knomeyes, don't worry about it13:44
knomethe first warning is, i imagine, for the english build13:44
knomeas there should be no translators.xml file13:44
knomethe other is related to creating the PDF files, but i've checked them numerous times and nothing overlaps any page or other area in a meaningful (or even visible) way, so *shrug*13:45
bluesabreknome, thanks!13:56
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/18.0413:59
knomenp13:59
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [bionic] r645 Strip whitespace from d/changelog and d/rules, update Standa... (by Sean Davis)14:02
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [bionic] r646 Release 18.04 (by Sean Davis)14:02
flocculantochosi: tiny little icon in sn-plugin? https://i.imgur.com/w2PVIVv.png14:19
flocculantpanel is 26px14:19
bluesabreflocculant: try enabling the square icons config option in sn-plug and see if that helps14:25
flocculantbluesabre: just moves it a tiny little bit to the right :p14:26
bluesabrelol14:26
flocculantbug report it? 14:26
bluesabrego for it14:26
flocculantat least it showed something - not had anything show up in there previously :p14:28
flocculantI've never really got which things should show up in these types of plugins14:29
flocculantactually when I think about it - the net one I hid was small too14:30
bluesabreflocculant: panel version?14:31
flocculant4.12.214:32
flocculantbug 175485414:32
ubottubug 1754854 in xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin (Ubuntu) "Tiny icon shown in plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175485414:32
ninetlsochosi: I can try. most likely, it won't be hard14:37
ninetlsflocculant: is it gtk or qt version of transmission?14:43
flocculantninetls: gtk I assume - ubuntu version14:44
bluesabreguessing it's a bug in the panel height calculation if it's not full width14:51
ninetlsworks on my machine!14:52
ninetlsbut I have xfce4-panel 4.1314:52
ninetlsI can try to test on 4.1214:52
ninetlstried on 4.12 and still couldn't reproduce :/15:18
slickymasterbluesabre, I think that error always happens16:38
Used2BTracker5I'd like some more directions for testing please. I have been using 18.04 for two days now. I'm using all my normal programmes: firefox, vmware-view-client, dropbox, libreoffice. All's well. Only had a crash in bluetooth, which is already being worked on (if I understand correctly).18:15
Used2BTracker5So, as to directions:18:15
Used2BTracker5Is there anything I can do? A testcase for an up to date 18.04, which you would like to see?18:16
Used2BTracker5Is there an Xubuntu program which I perhaps don't normally use, but which has been misbehaving, and since been updated, which needs a testrun?18:17
flocculantUsed2BTracker5: it's often quieter here at times on the weekend :p19:13
flocculantdoing what you've been doing is more or less what I do19:14
flocculantwhat you could do is this: 19:14
flocculantgo to the release note for 18.04 ( https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.04/release-notes )19:14
flocculantcheck the issues we've noted - make sure they are still issues19:15
slickymasterhmm flocculant what ever happened to the packages tracker?19:15
flocculantthen further down in the Major Updates section - check out all of the new or updated applications we've noted there - and try them out too19:16
flocculantalso - have a think about usability issues - does the application you're using make life hard? could a change make things easier?19:16
flocculantslickymaster: we don't often use it now as it seemed better to try and get people to actually use things in real life19:17
flocculantI could enable it for 18.04 but a bit late in the game now as likely changes needed to many testcases 19:18
slickymasterthought of it in the sequence of Used2BTracker5 request19:18
slickymasternooooo19:18
flocculantyea - I did exactly the same thinking :p19:18
slickymasteronly 7 corrected so far19:18
flocculantanyway - with that - I'm off again for a while19:18
slickymasterhf19:18
flocculant:)19:19
Used2BTracker5Explored my 18.04 a bit for things I wouldn't normally use. Came across something which seems "wrong": http://i.imgur.com/Jqdge9z.png. If I click on details I see this: http://i.imgur.com/Najzu0J.png19:29
Used2BTracker5It's not something that's bothering me, but, well, I thought I report it here. :-)19:30
Used2BTracker5((Thank you all for your patience. I'm learning as I go along; only just found out how to use print screen in conjunction with imgur... :-) ))19:31
Used2BTracker5https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.04/release-notes is very helpful, thanks19:33
flocculantthat is a new thing for menulibre - it's telling you it has found issues with menu files19:41
flocculantfunny how the second shot isn't translated19:41
flocculantoff again - back early tomorrow - then back in the afternoon19:42
flocculantUsed2BTracker5: thanks for working with us :)19:42
Used2BTracker5Well, the warning message isn't translated either. Luckily I understand english ;-)19:44
Used2BTracker5The menu files, which menulibre has found issues with, were not added by me; they apparently are part of the initial installation. As a simple end user I would not know what to do to rectify these menu files.19:48
Used2BTracker5Anyway: thank you for your time.19:49
bluesabreflocculant: added a work item to fix the issues menulibre finds with launchers to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-b-development20:08
Used2BTracker5bluesabre, I reported the issue on launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/menulibre/+bug/1754888); should I delete that bug report?20:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1754888 in MenuLibre "Menulibre: invalid desktop files detected!" [Undecided,New]20:15
bluesabrethanks Used2BTracker5, you can keep the bug report, we'll mark it fixed once we've taken care of the issues :)20:16
Used2BTracker5you're welcome. Glad to be able to help.20:19
Used2BTracker5On 18.04 played around with mate-calc. It crashed without a message. I do have a crash report. I want to report this on launchpad, but need advice; is such a crash report likely to contain private information in any way/ (passwords, ip-adresses, and such)20:33
Unit193bluesabre: Any reason not to sync parole?23:18

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