[00:18] <lord_> hi
[02:45] <Guest33214> Hola
[02:47] <fernando_> hola
[02:47] <fernando_> alguien habla español?
[04:18] <yutayu> how is your rpi ?
[04:19] <yutayu> with mate?
[04:19] <yutayu> faster than raspbian?
[04:31] <Guest63255> running 18o4 w/4.16 kernel.  Would like to hear other opinions on this kernel.
[05:35] <alkisg> yutayu: rpi is always slooooow because its cpu was designed as a mobile phone cpu, years ago; it can't be a desktop pc
[05:35] <alkisg> That said, I'm currently using one to silently VNC into my desktop PC
[05:42] <yutayu> ! alkisg
[05:43] <yutayu> okay , I use raspbian :)
[05:43] <alkisg> yutayu: they have the same speed
[05:43] <alkisg> Use whatever you prefer
[05:43] <alkisg> I tried both and I'm using mate, because that's what I'm also using on my desktop pc
[05:44] <yutayu> I see.
[05:44] <yutayu> I wanted to use faster .
[05:44] <alkisg> They're the same wrt speed
[05:44] <yutayu> I see.
[05:45] <yutayu> ah , can you use flashplugin on mate ? alkisg
[05:45] <kendell> I really like mate. I do wish the indicator applets were a tad more accessible but the bugs are minor
[05:45] <yutayu> I see kendell
[05:45] <kendell> accessible=usable with a screen reader
[05:46] <alkisg> yutayu: I don't think adobe released a flash version for armhf, did they?
[05:46] <yutayu> raspbian has flashplugin alkisg
[05:46] <alkisg> Then the same can be installed in mate too
[05:46] <alkisg> It's a matter of adobe, not of linux distros
[05:46]  * kendell isn't so sure about flash. I always remove it from all stock ubuntu installs because I ahve no use for it. Flash content is never accessible with a screen reader and I despise drm
[05:47]  * kendell sees what I can dig up about armv. Afaik, flash is proprietary, so unless adobe can recompile it for armv it either won't work or ... maybe, through some sort of compatibility layor ...
[05:48] <kendell> I really like all the work the ubuntu mate guys have put into ubuntu mate to make it accessible, not just to blind users but also people who need on screen keyboards, and magnifiers. Mate no longer needs to be explicitly told to have accessibility on, it's always on now that's OS software for ya
[05:49] <kendell> ok, infomercial over, lol
[05:49] <alkisg> kendell: what software are you installing upon mate for accessibility?
[05:49] <alkisg> Some teachers are asking me for students, and I only know of orca which is preinstalled...
[05:50] <kendell> it comes with everything you could need. Orca, which is a screen reader, onboard, which is an onscreen keyboard and ... oh what's that magnifier called? It would be great if that's al it did, but it also makes sure the login manager is accessible, which is a lot easier now than it used to be
[05:52] <kendell> I sort of wish ubuntu mate came with deluge instead of tramismission, but they're both good bit torrent clients. I think deluge is a tad more accessible but that's just me. I can use either. It comes with media players, an office suite, a web browser, email client ... and all that on a portable flash drive. Six years later and I'm still amazed that linux can be carried around
[10:28] <jeremies> Do you know some job to collaborate with ubuntu mate?
[10:40] <alkisg> I don't think ubuntu mate has jobs; canonical has jobs
[10:41] <alkisg> https://www.canonical.com/careers
[10:54] <vitalkanev> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251863047587627008/422344707226599424/IMG_20180307_131349.jpg when booting up the laptop. Screen isn't broken
[10:55] <alkisg> What does that show, the top of a blank screen?
[10:56] <alkisg> If so, that doesn't provide any information... when did that happen, what did you previously do that might have caused it, etc etc...
[10:57] <vitalkanev> This was caused after I booted my laptop with grub-pc version 2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7.2
[10:58] <alkisg> That grub version is normal for 17.10; do you mean that you have another version and you manually installed that one?
[10:58] <alkisg> *had
[13:52] <excalibr> Hi
[13:53] <excalibr> what's the deal sha256sum of the iso on the download page not matching one shown on the page
[14:14] <alkisg> excalibr: which iso filename are you trying, and what's your md5sum?
[14:41] <agoodname> something weird has happened
[14:41] <agoodname> i haven't done this myself
[14:41] <agoodname> but i'm subscribed to some news outlets
[14:41] <agoodname> that popup when i start my ubuntu
[14:41] <agoodname> it happened after an update
[14:42] <agoodname> how do i remove this?
[14:43] <kendell> can anyone help me find where to fine an accessibility bug? I'm using the indicator applets for the mate panel, and while they do work with orca, they don't announce the name of the menus. In other words, orca says "menu" when switching indicator menus instead of "system menu" "battery menu" etc. Is the indicator thing ubuntu specific or can it work on other distros as well? That'll help me figure out where the bug sho
[14:50] <diogenes_> agoodname, gotta a screenshot of the popup?
[14:51] <agoodname> will take one when it comes up
[14:51] <diogenes_> ok
[14:51] <agoodname> doesn't matter if i right click or left click, it just takes me to the site
[14:51] <agoodname> it's just a small box with a title and some short info
[14:51] <diogenes_> meanwhile check the startup applicATIONS
[14:51] <diogenes_> applications*
[14:53] <agoodname> nothing there that's out of the ordinary
[17:49] <mate|yoghi> salve a tutti,ho un problema :  macchina hp
[17:51] <mate|yoghi> formattato tutto.istallato  Mate 17-10-15 da un paio di mesi, tutto molto bello fino a oggi
[17:53] <mate|yoghi> fa i capricci ad accendersi e anche a spegnersi, e poi non mi istalla gli aggiornamenti....
[17:56] <mate|yoghi> mi dice  SCARICAMENTO DELLE INFORMAZIONI DEL REPOSITORY NON RIUSCITO...( controllare la propria connessione a internet )
[17:57] <mate|yoghi> fatto, ma quando vado x aggiornare il softw mi dice sempre quello..
[17:58] <mate|yoghi> soluzioni ????
[17:59] <mate|yoghi> che faccio disistallo e istallo la 16-4,  oppure mi butto su mint ???
[18:00] <diogenes_> !it | mate|yoghi
[18:12] <mate|96726> Hello
[20:00] <davide> FIREFOX don't work.go crash,help me
[20:01] <davide_> firefox go on crash,help me.Thanks
[20:08] <diogenes_> davide_, raspberry PI?
[20:19] <davide_> yes raspberry p3
[20:33] <alkisg> davide_, it's a known issue, use firefox esr or downgrade to the firefox provided by xenial, not xenial-updates
[20:33] <alkisg> I don't know why they haven't fixed it for months now
[23:01] <pi_> hi