[00:55] <bluesabre> Unit193: can't think of any
[00:57] <Unit193> Bud!
[00:57] <Unit193> OK, so may as well sync.
[00:58] <Unit193> * d/control: add missing b-deps on clutter   might be important-ish and fixes appstream.
[01:00] <bluesabre> clutter's not available in parole with the current gtk version
[01:58] <donofrio_> anyone know if and where can get the cloud squishfs file for xubuntu (or will suggested repo's work on normal 18.04 ubuntu?
[01:59] <Unit193> I am entirely unaware of what a cloud Xubuntu would be.
[02:21] <donofrio_> um I guess I shoudl just ask are the extra repo's workable with ubuntu 18.04 or are they only 17.04?
[07:50] <flocculant> ochosi: struggling to remember something :( while back there was a problem moving panle plugins past external ones (I think) seem to have that back - pretty sure it was workinig quite recently
[07:52] <flocculant> dnd that is - move fine in preferences
[08:23] <ochosi> that used to be an issur in 4.13 and we resolved it there. part of the problem already existed jn 4.12 and thats what you are seeing now
[08:23] <ochosi> so that issue was always thete
[08:24] <ochosi> you just forgot about it becausr in 4.13 it works better now
[08:25] <ochosi> we should investigate the sn-plugin sizing issue though. was your test on an unmodified install?
[08:26] <ochosi> and thr issur that ondondil mentioned has been reported on github before, never was able to reproduce it though - presumably a settings issue..?
[08:26] <flocculant> ochosi: no - the sn-plugin was in this install - I'll try and check in a livesession later
[08:26] <flocculant> ochosi: maybe - got them checking the ppa version 
[08:27] <ochosi> hmkay
[08:28] <ochosi> thanks for checking. if there really is a probpem with snplugin i need to get to it before UIF
[08:29] <flocculant> I'm off out shortly - will be back lunchtime. I'll look there as soon as I can :)
[08:31] <ochosi> sure thing
[08:31] <ochosi> i'll also be off for the day
[08:31] <flocculant> have a good one
[08:32] <flocculant> I'll update bug if I find anything
[08:39] <flocculant> ochosi: managed to check - seems to be local \o/ - so something amongst ppa's doing that
[08:39] <flocculant> I'm guessing
[08:42] <Used2BTracker5> not quite sure how this irc is working, so if you've already seen this question above, I'm sorry for repeating it:
[08:42] <Used2BTracker5> On 18.04 played around with mate-calc. It crashed without a message. I do have a crash report. I want to report this on launchpad, but need advice; is such a crash report likely to contain private information in any way/ (passwords, ip-adresses, and such)
[08:43] <flocculant> yea saw that last night - but you weren't here to see an answer
[08:44] <Used2BTracker5> sorry about that
[08:44] <flocculant> if you report something and it contains private information it will get set to private
[08:44] <flocculant> you will know because it's a lot of red :)
[08:45] <Used2BTracker5> I see; that happens automatically then, without me having to do anything special whilst reporting?
[08:45] <flocculant> yep
[08:45] <flocculant> 2 mins and I'll show you what I mean
[08:45] <Used2BTracker5> thanks; will head over to launchpad.
[08:46] <flocculant> Used2BTracker5: you do need to ubuntu-bug mate-calc though
[08:47] <flocculant> ochosi bluesabre ninetls - you can ignore the tiny icon issue for the moment, appears to be local to me
[08:47] <Used2BTracker5> ah, right. Will try to find out what that is and how it works :-)
[08:48] <flocculant> https://i.imgur.com/OY9dOdL.png
[08:48] <flocculant> you won't be able to see that bug - I can and people with permissions on launchpad can
[08:49] <flocculant> ok - I'm off now for a while - bbl
[08:49] <Used2BTracker5> have a nice day; am running ubuntu-bug mate-calc as we speak
[09:30] <ochosi> flocculant: kewl
[12:43] <bluesabre> ochosi: merged all the -settings branches, anything else you're looking for there in next releases?
[14:16] <ochosi> bluesabre: awesome. theres one more race condition we identified (on dis/reconnect) that could be fixed, but nothing dramatic
[14:16] <ochosi> can look into that tonight if you want
[14:25] <bluesabre> ochosi: sure, if you get a chance go for it
[15:55] <Used2BTracker5> I need advice (again). I've found unexpected behaviour with the update-manager. I've dropped a question at launchpad whether or not I should report this as a bug. 
[15:56] <Used2BTracker5> Someone more knowledgeable than me, tells me that the error is the result of a missing dependency.  not sure what that means. So: is this something that I should report as a bug?
[15:56] <Used2BTracker5> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/665478
[17:39] <Used2BTracker5> So, I reported the update-manager as a bug. Then I was asked to install install gir1.2-unity-5.0. Which I did. And that solved the issue.
[17:41] <Used2BTracker5> Point is: I have now extra packages in this installation of Xubuntu 18.04 which are not part of the original set. So my question is: Are any tests I now do, still valid?
[18:28] <Used2BTracker5> flocculant, just as a test I added you as someone to be notified when this bug is changed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1754986
[18:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1754986 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager: WARNING:root:can not import unity GI Namespace Dbusmenu not available" [Undecided,New]
[18:29] <Used2BTracker5> I hope you don't mind
[20:34] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, there's another slightly annoying bug that you may be able to help me track down in display settings...
[20:35] <ochosi> bluesabre: if you have two displays in extended mode and you take the left one and rotate it, there's suddenly a gap between the two displays. if you click the magic widget somehow the gap goes away and gets fixed. what gives?
[20:37] <ochosi> bluesabre: the other thing i'd like to do at some point is draw the minimal dialog icons with cairo. that way the user would see what would really happen (cause you can spell out the display names) and the whole "mirror" situation (remember: cloned vs. mirrored) would be corrected
[20:38] <ochosi> bluesabre: for the rotate issue i haven't even found the relevant code parts yet
[21:07] <ochosi> knome: up for some drawing?
[21:56] <donofrio_> How would I heal my ssh keys?  https://apaste.info/yjmF right now I cannot ssh to localhost ;(
[21:58] <donofrio_> I'm trying to fix this because I'm guessing that is the issue with gpg and repo's
[23:06] <ochosi> knome: in case you are, i need to scale this to 32px nicely: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/gtk-3.0/assets/titlebutton-close.png